Best Tool Battery? Milwaukee vs DeWalt vs Makita

BRANDS TESTED: Milwaukee vs DeWalt vs Makita. Batteries tested at ambient and cold temperatures for performance under load. Batteries advertised at 5 AH batteries and tested for real-world amp hour capacity and performance. Each brand drop tested from 10 feet, making impact with concrete from several angles. Each battery pack opened to determine the type and brand of 18650 batteries used by each brand. Hope you enjoy the video and look forward to reading your future video ideas. Thank you and best regards, Todd
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[@ProjectFarm]

While the quality of each battery brand is very impressive, there are definitely differences regarding overall performance as well as impact “durability”. I always look forward to reading your comments and your future video ideas! Best regards, Todd

[@SATO_FD2R]

Thanks for the vid! Any news on the windshield wiper test? Edit*: it’s only been 9 months! It felt like more!

[@Rogerthat777]

Great 5 star videos as always Todd! I was thinking of buying an fiber optic automotive boroscope and find there are far too many expensive vs. cheap ones to choose from to make any intelligent decision and possibly waste $$$ 😳😬 Any chance for some Project Farm tests? Thanks muchly!

[@TheMrTarkanian]

Do you think the adapter had any effect on the batteries?

[@annihilator4000]

It would be really interesting to see a comparison of off brand or rebuilt batteries like those from batteries plus.

[@LiveLearnProjects]

Great comparison on performance. I would be interested to see the comparison over time. The longevity of a batteries, especially lithium ion, use a wide variety of charging/discharging theories for the recharge cycle that significantly impact the health of the lithium ion cells over time. I bet we may see a larger disparity from these brands over an equivalent life cycle.

[@mrfordman9999]

I have to tell you, I was in home depot buying disks for my grinder and my dad goes, "eh just get em from harbor freight! They're all the same." From the NEXT isle over some dude goes, "no man, there's this guy online, project farm I think, he tested em all. They're different dude." It was a proud moment man. Todd, I've been an OG sub since the beginning man, since the shop lights. It is so awesome to hear people talk about your videos. You're doing an awesome job. Keep up the good work!

[@mwilliamshs]

Aisle*

[@GioGuitarDude]

I bring up Project Farm’s videos all the time to random strangers in auto parts/home improvement stores when I overhear them debating on which brand of something to get haha!

[@LBCAndrew]

During the past year, i've told a lot of people to check this channel out. And like you, a customert at home depot mentioned the channel a while back. Project Farm is my go-to source for NO-BS reviews. Not once have I seen Todd intentionally skew the results on a test, and for that he gets mad respect. This channel and AvE are my two favorite tool related channels on KZbin.

[@guzmanpatriot]

I've been cutting mild steel with that harbor freight disk, and I lost count on how many cuts I've made and its still good, I've been using the same disk for almost a month! Use normal usage

[@Sparkystacoma]

I too use his info as Bible for helping others

[@LohTec]

Interested in seeing you compare trash bags. Like Puncture resistant, max weight, tie strength, etc. Keep up the good work!

[@ProjectFarm]

Great video idea! I'll definitely do it if there's enough interest. Also hoping viewers will provide a list of brands they'd like tested. Thanks again, Todd

[@JoeUrbanYYC]

Definitely interested in this too. When it comes to trash bags it would be nice to see practical tests in addition to scientific 'lab style' ones, like what weight of sharp broken concrete chunks a bag could take before failing.

[@joshmarch5828]

@@ProjectFarm see if you can get Billy Boot garbage bags

[@101rotarypower]

@@ProjectFarm We use the Costco Stretchy "flex tech" bags, does anyone have an alternative that works better and readily accessible for the price?

[@alexklein455]

Awesome idea!

[@csok]

Milwaukee says 90Wh on the first line of text on the battery! Nice test!

[@EvanBtechman]

Yup. Saw that too

Was gonna post that but I figured someone would've beaten me to the punch.

[@AUXdrone]

@ same

[@bigboy815s]

Lol seen that too

[@Nickpampani]

Watt hours = Amp Hours * Volts

[@mgpadi]

If I want to buy anything in the tool industry, I first check to see if you have tested the product before I purchase the item. I truly appreciate your time making these great videos.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks!

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If there is a better use of KZbin than this channel, I’ve yet to find it.

[@ProjectFarm]

Wow! Thanks!

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Totally agree. By far the best on any platform. Bar none. Done so well I watch the products I dont even use, lol. He is highly appreciated

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Love this channel.

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Agree!!

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[@me3333]

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[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks so much!

[@OcRefrigeration]

He’s Probably Making More at Doing this than the Farm. Lol 😂 Definately top Quality Reviews. Helping a lot of people dicifer the mud of advertising.

[@jaimecastaneda7255]

Ive opened and Replaced damaged cells with good cells and every Milwaukee ive worked on has had samsung cells. Maybe they switched to lg and I just havent came across one.

[@francoisloriot2674]

@@OcRefrigeration I can't decipher your comment.

[@LamoidZombieDog]

He makes thousands of these videos it's not his own free time it's his job now lol

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[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for becoming a Patreon!

[@VBIEDdriver]

Love your videos. Right to the point and super entertaining and informative. I appreciate the lack of all of “the fluff” other folks throw in. You have a new subscriber. This video rocks by the way. It was painful to see the M18 battery cut open lol

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks! Thanks for watching and subscribing!

[@bathrobeheroo]

5:24 it says 90Wh above the sticker in black.

[@AverageCarGuy]

Came here to say this. Great video as always otherwise.

[@ScottLaffin]

You beat me to this, I was just about to comment, good catch.

[@IceBergGeo]

I said that same thing. Sorry I didn't see your comment first.

[@Florian24]

was looking for this comment lol

[@danilo360]

5a x 18v = 90wh

[@lowmofo]

I love how your videos are straight to the point. No intro, minimal ads, just straight up facts and wonderful testing/information. Thanks so much for taking the time to make them and share the info with the rest of us!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you very much!!

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[@angelo9967]

@@captainamericaamerica8090 hes gotta make a living somehow

[@cowboy9316]

Captain America America you won’t get a lot of money from yt and considering he buys everything he tests himself...

[@DieselRamcharger]

you live this exact comment all over youtube....

[@johnrackiewicz286]

I have owned some Dewalt 5AH packs for over 10 years, daily use,many drops. Still come back everytime i charge, even at low temps.Amazing batteries compared to the old NiCads. I got into the Milwakee platform about 5 years ago,all batteries are doing just as well so far,time will tell. You really can't go wrong with either.

[@cartossin]

Yeah it's amazing how good these modern battery systems are. I haven't had a problem with any of my 5ah makita batteries yet. Will they die at 5 years? 10??

[@LamoidZombieDog]

@@cartossin they won't die they will just reduce in health

[@machineunit]

Milwaukee has a great warranty program. I can't speak for DeWalt but I used to manage a tool crib with thousands of tools, hundreds of Milwaukee drills, sawzalls, impacts, etc... and Milwaukee wouldn't hesitate to replace almost anything as long as the tool was less than 5 years old. That could be because of the high volume of Milwaukee tools that we almost exclusively used but they sold me. DeWalt definitely makes great products though.

[@LamoidZombieDog]

@@machineunit Milwaukee seems to be shit. They want you to use the shitty web page where you can't do batteries, only some tool models. DeWalt replaces your first battery or two free without even wanting the old one back. Can't say about DeWalt tools.

[@worstdayofmylifesofar.just7477]

Still got my original 4ah Milwaukee batterys from 2013 used daily still ok. I looked inside one day and they were Samsung. I've got to the point were I prefer multiple battery platform tools. No one platform has the best of everything .

[@dlcarburetor]

As I'm a one of your recent subscribers, I'm still catching up on your many videos. This is one I wasn't as interested in at first. Glad I watched it. Really like the testing and detail you collect. The blower testing was really cool.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks!

[@endowed6664]

The Milwaukee has "90wh" engraved directly above the end of the logo

[@arugulatarsus]

I'm pretty sure @project farm was trolling us there.

[@DietBajaBlast]

@@arugulatarsus i'm pretty sure he doesn't get information wrong on purpose

[@martylucas8557]

arugulatarsus, how can he be trolling with regard to something as blatant as that? He might need to go to the ophthalmologist for an eye exam, then get his prescription updated.

[@MatthewG_208]

I think this was a simple mistake it can be very easy to miss that even with perfect eyes. Milwaukee should make that more clear like the other brands 5:25

[@flyguyphil7247]

Thats the first thing i saw when he said that, sobi cane to the comments to see if anyone else noticed

[@benmughal]

The lawnmower luckily escaped any experimentation this time.

[@ProjectFarm]

lol Thanks for watching!

[@angelofdeath3270]

Project Farm Lol yes that mower has taken a beating but it’s all in the line of duty❣️ When the mower is done dig a 6ft grave and put Killed In Action and salute him off❣️ Lol that poor thing deserves it. It’s had to go through the best and worst of everything so KIA on its tombstone❣️ lol

[@ooltimu]

Is the lawnmower still alive after the anti-seize experiment?

[@donpizzo8963]

@@ooltimu LOL- That lawmower has had a tough life.

[@ikvanachter6002]

Nex gen battery powered lawn mower testing on the way 😎😎

[@ParamountperformanceRC]

I gotta say I now go directly to your KZbin page before I make a tool purchase. To see your real-world tests prior to purchasing. Thank you for all your hard work it's much appreciated!!

[@ProjectFarm]

You are welcome!

[@mrirace926]

The Milwaukee delivers 90Wh. It is shown on the side of the battery at the top. Thanks for this! I have chosen Milwaukee as my tool choice. The drill and impact drill episodes really helped me out. I'll pay extra for extra performance.

[@Bonswally]

The video demonstrates that the dewalt delivers the most wh out of these brands.

[@toast3077]

The Makita cut off feature is really underrated, it will really prolong the life of your batteries.

[@jeffs2485]

A common recommendation is to never run your batteries to ‘zero’. I agree that Makita feature is a big deal.

[@John-771]

I use DeWalt but yes I agree that would be good for all platforms

[@andrewt9204]

DeWalt, and I'm sure Milwaukee too, have their pack voltage and thermal monitoring/cutoffs in the tool circuitry instead. Not sure which way is better. Could be a 6 to one half a dozen to another type situation. The main advantage I could see to having them in-pack would be if you're using them for something other than their intended use, like making your own UPS or hacking the batteries into a power wheels toy.

[@ricky107_]

My dad has always basically had Makita and yes stuff lasts forever!

[@straight-up-shots]

All of the major brands will have something similar if the voltage gets low enough.

[@jb3800ss]

5:25 "No indication on the Milwaukee battery of how many Watt Hours" It's right on the battery in the shot! 90 WH

[@jowen034]

lol yeah I saw that right away.

[@happyundertaker6255]

Maaaaaan i was gonna say that!

[@ProjectFarm]

Sorry I missed that! Thank you!

[@sage5296]

WattHours simply equals AmpHours x Wattage, all batteries are claimed at 5Ah, but some of the batteries claimed 20V (initial or optimal voltage) whereas others claimed 18V (running/operating voltage) 5x18=90 5x20=100 that's it!

[@ShowemRight]

One of the best channels on KZbin, I shared you with a few of my sons, who are men now, and I told them to reference you prior spending your hard earned money on tools.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for sharing the channel!

[@JoshuaJoshua0]

Your videos are so good. I'm searching for a battery system to put in a truck camper I'm building and this helped immensely. Thanks for doing this!

[@ProjectFarm]

Glad to hear! You are welcome!

[@thetransponder7186]

Sir. Your testing of these products has helped me and so many other people. You are the only test channel that actually helps us.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks so much!

[@KalFx3]

I recommend this channel to anyone about to buy just about anything

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Try the Torque Test Channel. Its channel is as good as this one when comparing torque wrenches.

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This is the ONLY channel on KZbin where I actually exclaim out loud, "YES!" when I see a new video is released. Not kidding. Keep up the great work!

[@ProjectFarm]

Wow, thanks!

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[@dougstearns6746]

Your energy and attention to detail is off the charts. Always useful information. Thank you

[@ProjectFarm]

You are welcome!

[@feicheng7022]

your testing vidoes are my favourite and you are not biased on where the product is made. simply scientific comparation. love your videos and your sneaky smile.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks!

[@MattsAwesomeStuff]

Todd - I know a fair bit about batteries and have extensively analyzed hundreds of failed packs. Some of your tests were fair, some may not have been. Here's my detailed notes: 1 - *Location of circuitry.* Lithium batteries should be (practically all will be) protected from being deep discharged by some electronic circuit that stops taking power out of them when they are empty. Where this happens varies by brand. And I mean, physically where. In Dewalt tools, the battery has a cell balancing board, but no low voltage interruption. The + and - terminals are directly connected to the cells. If you try to discharge to zero volts, it has no ability to stop you. So for Dewalt tools, the low-voltage cutoff is physically in the tool itself. In other brands (Makita I believe?... I wrote this as I went through the video, yes, you later confirm) this cutoff circuitry is in the battery, and the battery circuit itself has to pass through the cutoff before it gets to the terminals (so that it can be interrupted). If you didn't know this, you're lucky you chose a Dewalt tool, because the tool has the low voltage cutoff (a Makita for example, unless it doubles up on the circuitry, would continue to draw power until the battery stopped letting it, which, in the case of a Dewalt battery, is never). This is important because... 2 - *Low and high voltage cutoff limit.* Each tool brand will decide where it wants to charge and discharge cells to. So, when the tool cut out, you do not know whether that was the tool's cutoff, or the battery's cutoff. You got different measurements for each tool's ending voltage, and you should not have if the Dewalt tool was deciding when it was empty in a fair manner. Some brand's batteries cut off on their own first. One caveat: Voltage will very temporarily sag lower, especially on cheaper batteries, when under extreme load, then pop back up when laod is removed. So it's possible that all brands did reach the Dewalt tool low voltage cutoff, but some immediately sprung back better than others. Cells can be built optimized more for power vs. energy storage (for example, laptop cells prioritize energy, tool packs prioritize power), even with slight variances in the chemistry. Generally more springback means a cell less suitable for tool use, or more suitable for light-duty use. That pack has extra energy, it just can't get at it fast enough to be useful for high power tools. Ditto for full voltage. Each battery will decide what "full" is on their own charger. So it's not really apples to apples. 3 - *You test is biased towards tool brands with low durability.* One aspect of lithium chemistry is that the higher you charge a battery to, and the lower you discharge a battery to, the faster the battery degrades and loses permanent capacity. So by using new batteries, you're biasing towards those that charged fuller and discharged deeper, but will destroy themselves sooner. By sacrificing 10% of your capacity by not pushing a battery to its upper or lower limits, you may get 5x the life out of that battery. It's massively beneficial in the long term. Tangent: cell phones that get replaced every 2 years always abusively push their batteries to the max because it's the only thing people care about. People will complain about their phone not lasting as long, but 2 years down the road just accept that they'll need a new one. Electric vehicles are as much as 20% conservative, because people drive vehicles for 20 years and battery durability is a significant part of a brand's reputation, and it's a memorable purchase people will not lose track of. 4 - *Charging variance.* Some batteries when they're new take a couple cycles to reach their real capacity. And a battery that is charged fast or hot will appear emptier after you let it settle. Lots of these batteries started off at different voltages, that's peculiar to me. I wouldn't think that all of that gap is because of different max voltage levels set by each brand. 5 - *You 5A fan load is quite generously light of a load.* Discharging at 1C (1 hour until empty) is being quite nice to them. In tool use, that might be a little bit light for average use, but it does show a truer energy capacity. 6 - *I hate smash tests.* If you're not doing dozens or hundreds, they're biased heavily towards luck. That said... One bit of shock damage that's not immediately obvious is the shattering of the spot welds. This causes the nickle condutors to pop off the cells, or, to only be held in contact via friction. This is almost impossible to tell, even when looking at a cell I know has shattered the welds. This battery will appear to be undamaged. It will work. But through vibration and poor contact, you will constantly have arcing between the strip and the cell. You will have heat, and corrosion buildup. And if you live in a humid place, rust will collect here. Many batteries die due to shattered welds and then eventual corrosion of the space between strip and cell. Of the hundreds of packs I've post-mortem'ed, maybe 20-40% die from this? I should take better notes next batch. I'd say it's the 2nd biggest cause of failure (top being fuse from tool lockup/powersurge, 3rd being water damage). Even just a single cell that has that happen will eventually knock out the whole pack (battery will self-report a failure and charger will refuse to charge). What this means is that the brands that have the most crash testing put into their enclosures, in terms of where the plastic shocks the batteries, which have the most welds, the strongest welds, the thicker nickle, the more scholastic goop or foam padding, etc will outperform those that cut corners in the engineering in the long term. Even if both appear to survive the same impacts.

[@MrArcticPOWER]

At the end of the day, they all use top of the line cells and that's what matter. I don't think this video really proved anything aside from showing how similar they are and how the knockoff is a little worst.

[@NightshiftCustom]

can confirm milwaukee has there cutoff built into there tools but the battery still has a brain that can cut off the battery for other reasons but not for over/under voltage it seems

[@MattsAwesomeStuff]

@@MrArcticPOWER - The Knockoff probably used recycled cells. Already through the waste stream, torn apart for testing and re-use. 80% the performance for 20% the price. Can't argue with that.

[@MrArcticPOWER]

@@MattsAwesomeStuff From what I've seen, they often mislabel (use 2000mah cells but say it's a 5ah battery). I have some that are 4 years old and the're still doing just fine, so definitely worth it.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the feedback.

[@mattltech]

Who else just gives a thumbs up to his videos before even watching?

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you very much!

[@preston4737]

Same always

[@vintageMIDI]

This was an eye-opening comparison; another thoughtfully-considered, info-packed research video pointing to real world results so I can jump into my projects by maximizing my tool budget. Thank you!

[@ProjectFarm]

You are welcome!

[@jimbeaulieu220]

Your videos are always worth watching. Ingenious testing and right to the point. Camera work, sound and editing all consistently excellent. In this particular test I wonder if testing three of each brand (all from different lots) might have given a better indication of quality control within each brand. Thanks for another excellent tool test.

[@ProjectFarm]

You are welcome!

[@MLTR-1995]

I am almost sure, the manufacturers are hating this channel 😅

[@ThebadMAN747]

The amount of work this man goes through is just amazing, thank you!

[@ProjectFarm]

You are welcome!

[@vbkfivn]

When you show graphs, have you considered having the line match with the tool color? Yellow for dewalt,teal for Makita, red for Milwaukee etc?

[@ProjectFarm]

Great suggestion. Thank you.

[@ShawnDickens]

@@ProjectFarm also, you could put the cold and hot test together so it's next to the ones that matter rather than by brand

[@CANTON76A]

My thoughts exactly.

[@kamkuertvang2941]

I have to give project farm a lot of credit for doing different tests on different products. As a man working in the tech industry, watching this channel really gives me a good sense of enjoyment because it's somewhat relates to my job.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks! Glad tp hear!

[@duaneross9271]

You do a great job testing different items. Your good at figuring out how to test things. Great job!!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you!

[@Syntage88]

This was the test I was waiting for, batteries are almost as important as the tool it powers.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you very much!

[@samnottheotherone4363]

Could even argue more so since you power multiple tools.

[@slylockfox85]

IMO, they are just as important. It's like watching a 4K Bluray on a 1080p TV. You need the right battery to allow the tool to maximize it's potential. There are tests for Milwaukee's High Output batteries that show increased power compared to the normal batteries.

[@Syntage88]

@@ProjectFarm No, Thank you Project Farms. You save us lots of time reading reviews and money using products that aren't worth their price tag.

[@Precisionreelworks]

A "real" vs "knockoff" showdown for Milwaukee and Makita would be interesting too! I see knockoff Milwaukee's popping up all over

[@ProjectFarm]

Great recommendation! I'll do it if there's enough interest.

[@tormodhag6824]

Lol calling them knockoffs when milwaukee themselves use generic brand 18650 batteries that some other company makes.

[@MalleusSemperVictor]

@@tormodhag6824 Everyone does. There aren't very many companies that produce 18650 cells. Less than you could count on your both hands.

[@kraftzion]

I have been through a slew of knockoffs, I don't buy them anymore. The cells inside are a crap shoot. Sometimes they are very good, sometimes they aren't The knockoff cases are invariably cheap plastic and fail. If you are replacing a name brand battery that has failed with a knockoff I would swap the new cells into the old case. I personally will never buy another knockoff.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the suggestion.

[@ptock2]

Thank you so much for these reviews. They correct so many of my misconceptions. Excellent testing and control methodology.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks so much!

[@eatmorenachos]

Fantastic. This is a much better analysis than checking out forums where people argue back and forth.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks!

[@gumboperkins3775]

Graphic design advice: you missed a great opportunity to use each brand’s primary color in your graphs: DeWalt/Yellow, Milwaukee/Red, Makia/Teal etc. Even though there was a legend, It was confusing at first. Great testing as usual though 👍🏼

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the feedback.

[@syd_luna]

It's great that Lithium Ion batteries have come a long way over the last decade, and these big tool brands like DeWalt, Milwaukee, and Makita have their batteries perform very similar and very close to each other. I'd love to see more of this, but with Ryobi, Bosch, Ridgid, Festool, Kobalt involved in the same test with DeWalt, Milwaukee, and Makita. Great job, as always!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the video idea.

[@E-hab]

And Parkside

[@bmc5014]

And hitachi hilti and metabo please

[@ericharrison619]

Some of the lower end companies thrown in would be neat. I would like to see how well they perform compared to the big names. Walmart sells a brand named Hart for example.

[@christiansprojects-cgmanuf1426]

b mc I would really like to see how Bosch and Metabo perform, since they use the bigger 21700 cells in their ProCore or LiHD batteries.

[@CALDues]

This was great, again, as always, thanks a ton. Makes me think of a comment from another of your greatfull viewers that said he has sat in the parking lot of a big box store watching Project Farm to see what to buy.😊 Thanks again

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks and you are welcome!

[@Ethomsen18]

Another great comparison with some nice tests. I appreciate the tests independent of the tools as this could have some bearing on the effectiveness of the batteries. A wH/$ comparison at the end may be nice to see if the Watley is worth it. I suggest getting adapters for other tool brands and testing the batteries all on a Milwaukee tool especially brushless and then on a Makita and so on. This may show some variance when the oe battery is used on a matching tool. I'm familiar with the Milwaukee line so I know they have the xc, cp, and hd batteries. Comparing these and other manufacturer's equivalents may tell interesting stories. I do realize that there are a lot of combinations possible, but I hope you continue to appreciate the input and feedback. I definitely enjoy your work and I appreciate just how long- term some of your tests are. If possible it's be amazing to look at the life cycle comparisons between theses batteries too. I realize that this is a huge number of charge and discharge cycles though and potentially a lot of intermittent performance testing but could really be useful. Let me know if you need any further clarification of you're interested.

[@Sounddoctorofficial]

Only one test was used on a dewalt tool, the rest were just wired up and dewalt still came out superior so my guess is it would change nothing

[@BrendonGillespie]

I came here for this. Each brand of batteries works best with the tool it's paired with. They all have chipsets in them that communicate with the appropriate tool. This gives a disadvantage to all of the non DeWalt batteries. Otherwise, it was still a great video to watch!

[@xyron5418]

Only discovered this channel a couple of months ago and even though I don’t need it, these tests are really amusing and sure as hell helpful

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you very much!!

[@Mittencarpentry]

All the refreshing finally paid off.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you very much!!

[@MLRS6]

As i got to expect of your videos.: cool, educational and well put together. Thank you. 👍🏻

[@ProjectFarm]

You are welcome!

[@dandetande288]

This is what makes me still come back to KZbin, people like him

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for watching!

[@chrissomthing9587]

I cannot emphasize enough how helpful you're channel has been to me over the past couple years such great content

[@ProjectFarm]

Happy to hear that!

[@jmcasler1512]

I never knew discharging a battery could be so exciting.

[@UnitSe7en]

Clearly we don't go to the same types of parties.

[@godfreypoon5148]

Oh, your mother has known for a long time.

[@overabarrel]

Great video! Loved the detailed analysis. Great pace of presentation, keeps you interested until the end.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks so much!

[@g_dub]

Your channel is by far the best review channel around. Thank you for the content

[@ProjectFarm]

You are welcome!

[@lm-usmc]

Another great video. Thanks for taking the time to put videos like this together. I've been extremely happy with my Milwaukee tools so far. No regrets.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you!

[@gabbsng]

My new 4 favourite words: "We're gonna test that"

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for sharing!

[@zwz.zdenek]

Definitely nightmare words for managers.

[@Skinstad94]

Thank you for all these great videos! The work you put in is truly appreciated. I know i'm late to the party and its probably been pointed out but for other people who are also late, the Milwaukee battery is 90Wh. It's written in not a not to easy to see area above the brand name (Along witch voltage and serial number etc.) on the label on the underside of the battery..

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks and you are welcome!

[@letstub]

Great job!! Very professional, on point, and unbiased testing. Subscribed!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks! Thanks for watching and subscribing.

[@Farmerofdoom]

Just finished watching all PF videos... Can't for the life of me remember what I was looking for to begin with. Easily one of the best and certainly most authentic, genuine, unbiased, and relatable reviewers on KZbin. At this point the video only needs to be 4 seconds long: PF: Tosses product on the table, points, says "this one". ME: Purchases said product immediately without question. Now all that remains is figuring out how best to fling money in the general direction of Project Farm.

[@ProjectFarm]

Glad you like them! Thanks for watching!

[@coffee10001]

All you videos are incredibly impressive, scientifically well thought out and professionally executed with high production values and professionalism. Hi from a supporter in the UK.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks so much!

[@georgemeadows8115]

Love the way you do you editing straight to the point love it

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks so much!

[@TomSilver_42]

Thanks for very nice, detailed and well thought comparison. And also for details about the batteries inside.

[@ProjectFarm]

You are welcome!

[@NixDeam]

Ive said it before and ill say it again this channel has helped me learn a lot about different tools. I work at one of the big hardware stores and dont know much about tools but this channel always helps me out. Thank You!

[@ProjectFarm]

You are welcome!

[@TheMetaljrc]

This is the best power tool battery testing I've seen so far.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks!

[@K-Fed]

I agree. Project Farm does a good job testing tools in a fair and controlled way. All the other tool reviewers I've seen fly by the seat of their pants leading to inaccurate and unreliable results by comparison.

[@TheMetaljrc]

@@K-Fed Exactly. I love power tools , and I've seen battery testings before, and they always leave me with questions. Project farm nail it with this vid. And not many can complain, because he compared the top 3 pro brands in US.

[@morecowbell235]

Nice video, thank you. One thing I would recommend is comparing how these batteries lock into their chargers, drills and other tools. I've used Makita tools for a long time and they work great, but my main problem is the plastic connections between the charger and battery fail over time. They break and or become deformed to a point where they are unusable.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the video idea.

[@guillaumeinjjuz1744]

Its true we have the same problem here in montreal for our drywall makita tools. Its annoying

[@RiverOfRant]

Yes! I would love to see who actually has the best battery connection/mounting design. Which design keeps out dust and debris better and which design should stay tight fitting and hold up over heavy use.

[@genefortney9133]

Excellent video, thanks for sharing. An interesting comparison might be comparing similar stats within several batteries of each company. This would examine each companies quality control and helps the consumer determine if they get what is indicated on the label on every battery.

[@ProjectFarm]

You are welcome! Thanks for the video idea.

[@kirovfactory]

"the red line represents Dewalt" OCD: ATTACK!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the feedback.

[@rappmasterdugg6825]

For DeWalt do you have to use yellow

[@jeremiahbachmann3901]

Dude, I know. WTF

[@kevinm594]

The highlight of my day! New videos from Project Farm :)

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you very much! This means a lot!!

[@projecteurbeelinkbeelink8468]

Really good vid as usual ;) And glad to see it's not always the same brand coming first, it's reassuring in a way. On this one, I was wondering if the performance of the Milwaukee wasn't hindered by the fact that they are not plugged on Milwaukee tools. I don't exactly know but I feel there is also a piece of calculator within the tool that helps managing the battery and that they are made to match and work together. Would be curious to see the same tests but done on a Milwaukee tool instead and see how Dewalt and Milwaukee performs. Maybe you did and you know?

[@TheAdatto]

The battery management is in the battery. It just stops giving power under a certain lvl.

[@dwiley411]

Nicely Done. Your testing methods continue to amaze me ie pvc pipe on metal conduit to assure the same equal drops for each battery brand. Keep up the great work!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks, will do!

[@deadasparagus]

The brand doesn't matter, I've seen them all used as hammers.

[@saccaed]

Yes, seeing the impact test all I could think of was the number of times I have seen impact drivers used to hammer 2x4s in place for framing...

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the feedback.

[@jeffs2485]

My roofing guy says Dewalt bounces best! He drops his off the roof all the time.

[@leesonneville1817]

Lol I do this all the time with my Milwaukees. So far no problem.

[@mattmicken6379]

@@saccaed I've used impact drivers as hammers! Lol

[@vsar1938]

Phenomenal simple to grasp testing. That is accurate and reliable. Well done!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you!

[@andrewschmitt5792]

It's truly fascinating to see straight through marketing that companies attempt to use but real world testing defies it. I love this channel for that

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks!

[@jacobhernandez9201]

Thank you for another amazing test! Also, I had no idea battery brands were interchangeable!

[@ProjectFarm]

You are welcome!

[@RonJohn63]

Buying two of the Watleys, and having one always on the chargers, seems to be the cost-effective plan.

[@bryanlatimer-davies1222]

I agree they are cheap enough to do just that

[@niwai]

Watley will probably wear down quicker due to the use of lower grade cells... So id go with quality over quantity.

[@TXH1138]

@@niwai "probably" doesn't work on Project Farm, where fact is king.

[@niwai]

To me project farm proved that watley is lower grade and perform below their promised specification. Im a bit dissapointed that he didnt check what cells watley used.

[@stans5270]

To all those pontificating on what/which is best, PF already did a video on this subject, in which, it was concluded that the Waitleys was his choice. See the 12:57 mark of this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iJulmoBmfLZ4m5o

[@frankierutherford1888]

You’re a really respectable guy man. Thanks for sharing

[@ProjectFarm]

You are welcome!

[@ashishm8850]

Thanks for an extremely useful comparison test!

[@ProjectFarm]

You are welcome!

[@user-bw5xf3yr3m]

I love this channel and appericate all the effort you put into give us results thank you sir. And please if you can keep doing power tools I’m addicted

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks, will do!

[@mturallo]

Even if I don't have immediate need for this week's product, I throw the winner into an Amazon wishlist for when I do. Thanks again!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you very much!

[@GenesisMuseum]

your battery tests are the most comprehensive i've ever seen (note: i am an electrical engineer)

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks so much!

[@KM-bs1zu]

What about Ryobi? Would have loved to see how it compared. Love your channel, great job as always.

[@ProjectFarm]

Great suggestion! Thank you.

[@auriarouleau4637]

Very thorough testing, with all the info you need and none that you don’t.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks!

[@danny1103]

Thank you for all the testing and experimenting that you have done, better than reading consumer reviews, which really helped me to make the right choice and purchase whenever I come across the items that I need. Especially those items that regular people will use daily such as engine oil, battery, engine cleaner, and car wax etc. Man those must take a fortune and a lot of human waiting hours just to make a video.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you!

[@bobqzzi]

Love these videos. You're extremely clever in setting up the tests.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you!

[@coastalcraftsmen9155]

Wow that was in depth! Great job👍😎

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks! 👍

[@nicolashuerta7050]

I like your videos I'm impressed I'm always learning new stuff about the tools I've been a Makita fan for the longest but now with all these videos I'm more interested on you know getting different tools for the right application thank you for your videos

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks and you are welcome!

[@beolux]

Wood protectant would be interesting - linseed oil, tung oil, mineral oil, etc.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the video idea.

[@edlauren9434]

I love this idea! You can compare water-based and oil-based polyurethane, acrylic catalyzed, varnish and epoxy. Different applications; floor, tabletop, entry doors. You can check scratch resistance, UV-light, temperature, chemicals like alcohol, etc.

[@tsammtsix3002]

I would like to see that too

[@azteacher26]

@@ProjectFarm If you choose to do this video idea make sure you throw a 'charred' wood into the mix.

[@dougfrazier1933]

All of the tests you do are amazing. I've learned a lot just watching. Suggestion: Price per amp-hour of 18v-24v cordless tool batteries varies widely among brands. You could test an assortment to see a.) how many amp-hours you are really getting, and b.) how much you are paying per amp-hour. I know battery quality can vary a number of other ways, like lifetime, resistance to breakage, and so on, but I still think it would be useful for people to know whether they are getting the battery capacity that they pay for. Just a thought.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks so much! Thanks for the video idea.

[@truthserum9157]

I must have missed this, awesome video, great testing equipment, I love your videos.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks so much!

[@southeastmissouriweather5735]

I'd like to see you compare batteries from Ryobi, Metabo, Bauer, Craftsman, and Kobalt. Thank you for helping people and taking the time to read comments.

[@ProjectFarm]

You are welcome! Thanks for the suggestion.

[@VirtualVenom]

The Milwaukee has 90Wh written at the top right about the Milwaukee name.

[@ProjectFarm]

Sorry I missed it. Thank you

[@nachocheez9]

@@ProjectFarm DeWalt advertises 100 watt-hours due to the 20V max rating. It would be the same as the 18V tools though, since they're really 18V nominal. So 90 would be the real number for all of those 5.0ah batteries.

[@John-771]

@@nachocheez9 Samsung cells always under rate performance. AvG did a video on that.

[@John-771]

@jubjub247 Milwaukee came in 3rd... I've been using my flex volt miter saw, table saw and worm drive for about 2 years. I haven't seen any battery issues.

[@brendanberry7403]

This doesn't seem to match anything real life. Not sure why, but I've never met a person who has been happy with their DeWalt cordless tools in person, but everyone loves my Milwaukee tools and I've had some of them for 4-5 years now with original batteries and no issues.

[@Foxxygrandpa241]

I became slightly triggered when I noticed you didn't correspond the graph line colors with their respective brands..... DeWalt/yellow Milwaukee/red Makita/blue Waitley/gray

[@mrniusi11]

makita is teal

[@jumper233]

Being colorblind ,it didn’t bother me one bit.

[@straight-up-shots]

Hahaha I was thinking the same thing. Reorder the columns and match the color with the brand's color.

[@MoFe12345]

I was about to make the same comment, but saw that you beat me to it

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for sharing.

[@georgedavall9449]

Todd/ Project Farm deserves an ‘Emmy! ‘ 😃 These tests are off the charts!!! Very impressive and thorough! In the future, Id love to see an extended version of this video, including the newer 21700 celled battery’s! I’d be willing to contribute batteries to the cause! A real test that would show what the performance gains in runtime and temperature control is gained from the newer cells. Just an idea...A lot of so called reviewers seem to be at odds over what if any, performance differences one can expect from these newer batteries. I think there are some performance gains from these newer batteries, in certain tools. I Nominate PF for an Emmy! Oh, Milwaukee lists the watt hours along the thin line of numbers, on the bottom of the battery, where the little ‘WiFi’ like symbol is. 👍👍👍😁✌🏻🥇🇺🇸

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the nice comment.

[@danlux4954]

Next time use a Milwaukee or Makita tool.

[@bttmlesspit25]

First off want to say I enjoy your videos thank you. One thing I'd really enjoy you putting into your battery videos would be the stamina of the batteries over repeated charging and discharging I think that's just the main thing that you're missing particularly in this video. So maybe do a charge and release cycle of say 25 times each and then do the same test you just did as far as the the blower and whatnot. Just my opinion but that would be the one piece information I'm missing before I purchase a piece of equipment.

[@abooodhome]

5:25 Milwaukee 90wh and you said they don’t mention it.

[@ProjectFarm]

Sorry I missed that! Thank you!

[@Nicholas1999]

Lol

[@Outdoor_Everyday]

Guess someone beat me to it 😂

[@allgaming4045]

Project Farm but there is so many things that you didn’t miss :)

[@Rusty_Gold85]

You still cant see it any thing at 3 feet at the total packaging before opening

[@jpiz224]

My first tool box was DeWalt, so when ever I buy things I usually just buy DeWalt because I wanted it all to match, these videos make me thankful I did that.

[@kwalker375]

Fyi... Dewalt and MAC Tools can interchange battery packs. No adapter needed.

[@KP-qp9kz]

I put my Milwaukee tools in my dewalt box so no one steals it

[@jpiz224]

@@KP-qp9kz 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@ProjectFarm]

Great point!

[@wookongninja7461]

Excellent test and comparison. Love the teardown.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you very much!

[@superdavescott]

Another awesome review. Love the tip on the adapter, had no idea that existed and I am going to buy one for use on the job site. Seems like everyone has a different tools/battery system.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks! Thank for the feedback.

[@rickrudd]

I loved the fact that AvE gave you a shout out last week!

[@ProjectFarm]

Very nice! Thanks for sharing.

[@smokingcheeba420]

That's a huge prop man. Check out Ave if you haven't. Your to cool for school though

[@fudgepuppy9683]

AvE and PF are god tier channels 👁👄👁

[@plombo5728]

As a plumber who has made the switch to Milwaukee cordless tools this was interesting to watch. Thanks!

[@ProjectFarm]

You are welcome!

[@BLKMGK4]

As a DeWalt user sick to death of finding dead packs for no obvious reason I was considering switching to Milwaukee tools. Now I'm not sure WTF to do - ugh! Very much appreciate this battery review though for sure. That there's an adapter between the two companies was news to me and could help. I wonder if I can piggyback two adapaters to my old NiCad DeWalt crap could run off Milwaukee? ROTFL

[@zwz.zdenek]

@@BLKMGK4 Many drills need to have the direction switch set to neutral to avoid self-discharge. Try doing that.

[@BLKMGK4]

zwz • zdenek I don’t ever leave them in the tool. I leave them lined up on a shelf. Most recently used goes furthest away and I shift them over and charge the next in line. This way I rotate through then all. But now I find dead packs when I take them off the charger, it’s frustrating. I’m going to open a few and troubleshoot.

[@SvenTSchixe]

The Milwaukee says 90 Wh above the "5.0 AH" text in the black plastic. Love your work buddy, 🍻✌🇨🇦

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks! Sorry I missed that. Thank you.

[@benjaminchoate]

Thanks for another great video. Just wanted to mention, the capacity tester you used experiences a little bit of voltage sag because it tests the voltage on the same lead that's drawing the current, so your watt-hour number will end up a little lower than reality. On the off chance you test batteries again, there's an upgraded unit that looks very similar that uses separate leads for voltage testing and current that will give you slightly better numbers.

[@ProjectFarm]

You are welcome! Thanks for the constructive feedback.

[@FutureTechNation]

Thank you very much sir. You are invaluable to the youtube community.

[@ProjectFarm]

You are most welcome!

[@LesAventuresDeTigRRe]

Next vid idea: Could you try powering a diesel motor with different kind of recycled oils? Kerosene, bacon grease, used vegetable oil, used engine oil etc. ?

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the video idea.

[@JohnDoe-pv2iu]

I would like to see this too. Now the tractor is going wind up like Larry!

[@jaretsykora8813]

Tigrre Ampluch id be interested in that!

[@Senkino5o]

Will not work, diesels work by compression causing auto-ignition. Oil, kero, etc. Will not ignite/burn without a spark. Might be interesting to see if a small mix of one or the other with diesel will still ignite properly.

[@LesAventuresDeTigRRe]

@@Senkino5o Please just google it before saying "it won't work"

[@andrewclarke6802]

the Milwaukee says 90WH on the bottom just above the info sticker. Keep up the amazing work project Farm

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks, will do!