France And The German Occupation Period

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@MrStuartLitle
@MrStuartLitle 6 ай бұрын
I'm a Portuguese living in Germany for a year know. In Dresden. I love this people... I lived in Paris for 5 years. It was the best years of my life, so far. I felt at home in Paris. More than my own capital, Lisboa. We, Europeans , need to come together, with all our differences. That what makes this continent beautiful. The war is over for 80 years. Let's work together.
@luistilli2328
@luistilli2328 6 ай бұрын
Os alemães não eram assim tão maus como os pintam…
@MrStuartLitle
@MrStuartLitle 6 ай бұрын
​@@luistilli2328Não eram nem são. A minha mulher é alemã. Sinto me em casa aqui... Na prática, neste momento, sinto melhor que em Portugal, infelizmente
@magdalenachadrys9437
@magdalenachadrys9437 6 ай бұрын
@SantolinedesCollines
@SantolinedesCollines 6 ай бұрын
Absolument d'accord avec votre commentaire Stuart little
@Tanatos975
@Tanatos975 6 ай бұрын
If Putin is not stopped now, then in 5-10 years he will bring to Europe the same thing as Hitler.
@terraflow__bryanburdo4547
@terraflow__bryanburdo4547 6 ай бұрын
Of the many hundreds of films about the War which i have seen, this is among my favorites. Very open, humane, yet incisive. The narration is fantastic.
@evaeves8569
@evaeves8569 6 ай бұрын
Amazingly, in the documentary a German soldier said that they were fighting to survive, but in reality, those people being put in camps were not at war with them. And the British, Americans, Russia and others came and had to stop them from going around murdering people. The Germans seemed to think that their arrogance, envy and hatred was superiority. That's probably what Hitler, who wasn't even German, saw in them that he could use. Good documentary.
@ДжонШик-п6щ
@ДжонШик-п6щ 3 ай бұрын
Как раз таки повествование плохое из-за некомпетентности рассказчика.
@johntomlinson1082
@johntomlinson1082 2 ай бұрын
😊
@unsere_achtziger_80s-4-U
@unsere_achtziger_80s-4-U Ай бұрын
The narrative voice is Christian Brückner's, the best we have.
@Signaman-z9d
@Signaman-z9d 13 күн бұрын
On 66 minutes, I agree with this womans statement. ✊☘️
@jebbroham1776
@jebbroham1776 6 ай бұрын
German soldiers LOVED France, one because it was a pretty safe place to be posted and second because there was a vast amount of food and luxury items there the troops could send back home to their families. Of all the occupied countries in Europe that a soldier could be sent to, France was undeniably the best.
@faouzielmir9894
@faouzielmir9894 6 ай бұрын
There wasn't enough food for the French population
@jebbroham1776
@jebbroham1776 6 ай бұрын
@@faouzielmir9894 there was up until mid 1943 when the Americans and British started bombing every target of opportunity.
@mazzalobo
@mazzalobo 6 ай бұрын
And they were fans of french brothels
@robsowka4985
@robsowka4985 6 ай бұрын
Yes, unfortunately it was.
@corydunaway
@corydunaway 6 ай бұрын
​@@jebbroham1776true. The allies destroyed much of France and killed many civilians
@sleepthoughamostqruelandde1116
@sleepthoughamostqruelandde1116 6 ай бұрын
I have never seen anything close to how well this is done! A subject not breeched often. Excellent.
@jim7544
@jim7544 6 ай бұрын
For the most part, the Germans in Normandy got along very well with the French. Most of the Germans in radar and gun installations were old WW1 vets, unfit to fight in Russia. They traded their rations - and gasoline - for milk and fresh food. They went to church and to shops. There was virtually no resistance there.
@kratoleaf7619
@kratoleaf7619 6 ай бұрын
The English and French both got along with the Germans. Its the elite that had problems with Germany. Mainly the banking cartel that got kicked out of Europe when the Germans arrived. THOSE are the handful of people who started WW2, NOT the Germans.
@DJAMEL-r5y
@DJAMEL-r5y 6 ай бұрын
la collaboration n etait pas un vaint mot
@juhopuhakka2351
@juhopuhakka2351 5 ай бұрын
Semper Fi brother!
@kratoleaf7619
@kratoleaf7619 5 ай бұрын
The English and French both got along with the Germans. Its the elite that had problems with Germany. Mainly the banking cartel that got kicked out of Europe when the Germans arrived. THOSE are the handful of people who started WW2, NOT the Germans.
@louis-er9xk
@louis-er9xk 5 ай бұрын
​@@DJAMEL-r5yLa collaboration ce n'est pas ça. C'est Lucien Lacombe, Doriot, pas des quidams qui essaient juste de survivre.
@geraldarcuri9307
@geraldarcuri9307 6 ай бұрын
Stunning. Profound. I have watched hours of WWII footage, read scores of books and articles about the war. Nothing has compared to this very personal documentary. Bravo!
@user-gu7kk5zk2b
@user-gu7kk5zk2b 5 ай бұрын
My parents lived in Paris all through the war except at the start. They were in London when France declared war on Germany so dad left to join the army. He was wounded when Germany defeated them and escaped capture by fleeing to the South. Mom found him nursed him back to health and they returned to their apartment in Paris. They missed a lot of the "nice" part of the occupation. Their stories are of troops breaking into their building in the dead of night to seize any Jewish people living there. Also the years of deprivation as Germany stripped the country of all the food so they were paying dearly to eat animal fodder. Looks idyllic in the home movies but at the same time they were taking all the Jews, gays and people with disabilities to be eliminated. Not quite so nice and friendly. My dad barely escaped that fate when someone on the street said he was Jewish and was almost arrested on the spot saved by a neighbour who defended him. That stuff was happening daily despite all the happy faces
@inesmolina1598
@inesmolina1598 5 ай бұрын
Yo también
@a.f.7246
@a.f.7246 5 ай бұрын
The French were so fanatic about their French language. But now they have to deal with 3 million muslims
@jocelyneb
@jocelyneb 5 ай бұрын
​​@@a.f.7246 Don't you like your language ? Do you know what "fanatic" means ? Where do you come from ?
@missmerrily4830
@missmerrily4830 5 ай бұрын
@@user-gu7kk5zk2b Thanks for those sobering words. It's more akin to how life really was under German occupation.
@estfriks3795
@estfriks3795 6 ай бұрын
Mon grand père est Allemand est revenu dès 46 en France retrouver ses amis français . Il n'a jamais vécu aucune animosité pendant et après la guerre .Selon lui seuls les derniers jours avant la libération ont été difficiles avant les résistants de la dernière heure . Il ne sait jamais senti en danger dans les villes françaises ou il a vécu , se promenant seul dans les rues quelques jours avant la libération ce qu'il aurait impossible en Pologne ou en Yougoslavie. Il est revenu s'installer en France en 1950 se mariant avec celle qui fut l'une des ses nombreuses petites amies de la période d'occupation.
@SantolinedesCollines
@SantolinedesCollines 6 ай бұрын
Les jours de la libération ont effectivement été très difficiles pour tous. Dans tous les pays occupés par les allemands il y eut des histoires sentimentales superficielles ou solides qui aboutirent parfois à des unions. Beaucoup d'enfants naquirent d'ailleurs de ces rencontres partout dans les pays occupés. C'était parfois très mal vu de la population et mal vécu par ces enfants traités d'enfants de boches mais pas toujours. Derrière un uniforme il y a toujours un homme et tous les allemands n'étaient pas des SS. L'occupation a été différente en Pologne et Yougoslavie. Ce n'était pas la même tactique et politique.
@michelgouverneur885
@michelgouverneur885 6 ай бұрын
pour moi il y a eu 2 guerres en une seule....je m explique , celle que vous décrivez avec l occupation ne se sentant pas en danger par la population française et l autre guerre avec les waffen ss et l extermination des juifs . je pense fortement que votre grand pére et les autres, ne savaient pas ce qui se passait .....d ailleurs une fois l extermination faite, ils détruisaient toutes traces de batiments comme si rien n avait eu lieu ....
@SantolinedesCollines
@SantolinedesCollines 6 ай бұрын
@@michelgouverneur885 il y eut la guerre à l'est et dans les Balkans très violente. A l'est pour étendre l'espace vital et y installer des colons germaniques les peuples autochtones destinés à servir d'esclaves. A l'ouest c'était une autre manière d'aborder l'occupation, les populations plus ménagées dirons nous. Les tactiques étaient différentes. Les camps étaient à l'est en Pologne et en Allemagne et Autriche et autres.
@SantolinedesCollines
@SantolinedesCollines 6 ай бұрын
En France la population se sentait en danger aussi. Les contextes étaient différents. Les situations et fonctionnements étaient complexes. En fait il y a eu plusieurs sortes de guerre en une seule selon des schémas définis. Et militairement différemment de la Grande Guerre avec les premiers balbutiements des technologies. Aviation et chars etc et guerre des tranchées. Mon grand père était militaire de carrière et a fait entre autre Verdun et les Dardanelles. Mon père Sicile, Monte Cassino, campagne d'Italie, débarquement de Provence etc. Les contextes étaient différents. De la génération née après guerre j'ai connu beaucoup de résistants, déportés, anciens combattants etc.
@SantolinedesCollines
@SantolinedesCollines 6 ай бұрын
@@michelgouverneur885 les camps de déportation les gens ne savaient pas exactement ce qui s'y passait. Ils savaient juste que l'on amenait les personnes par voie ferroviaire sans connaître les destinations. Par contre le Vatican fut informé de leur existence tout comme les alliés via les réseaux notamment la résistance polonaise et des militaires allemands. C'était très dissimulé. C'est très sympa d'échanger.
@RobbinNey-br3kt
@RobbinNey-br3kt 6 ай бұрын
Mes parents ont vécu la guerre près de Paris , ils n'ont pas vraiment vu l'arrivée des allemands comme des gentils soldats . Ils ont crevé de faim , fait la queue pendant des heures pour s'entendre dire " il n'y a plus rien !" Les allemands se servaient d'abord , le reste pour le pauvre peuple . Le soir le couvre feu , les jeunes envoyés au travail en Allemagne ou sinon entrer dans la résistance. A entendre les témoignages on a l'impression que les français étaient pas si mal que çà ! D'autre part les gens qui filmaient était rares car avoir une caméra à cette époque relevait déjà d'un certain niveau social . Ma grand mère à entendu un joueur de piano allemand , celui-ci couvrait les cris de Roger qui résistant se faisait torturer pour dénoncer ses compagnons . Dans certains milieux d'autres s’arrangeaient avec les allemands , certains s'engageaient dans les SS . Mes parents ne sont plus de ce monde , je crois qu'ils auraient été très choqués d'entendre certains témoignages de français .
@pb7201
@pb7201 5 ай бұрын
Vous avez raison. Les français ont vite oublié que tout soldat schleu a été un violeur et un assassin parceque en totale impunité par toute sa hiérarchie, et parce-que la race des vainqueurs il fallait bien qu'ils s'amusent ! Perso je vomis sur toutes ces merdes de français qui achètent les bagnoles allemandes pourtant au top10 des pires constructeurs au monde, juste par snobisme alors que notre industrie qui souffre est bien supérieure !!!
@mrktyb
@mrktyb 5 ай бұрын
ben mon gars chacun son histoire.. 300,000 bébés sont nés des fruits de amour durant quelques années d'occupation. Ce chiffre est astronomique.
@RobbinNey-br3kt
@RobbinNey-br3kt 5 ай бұрын
@@mrktyb Évidemment comme vous dites " chacun son histoire" Sauf que cette histoire c'est celle de millions de français qui l'ont vécu . Bien sur qu'il y a eu des histoires d'amour , mais çà ne retire pas le mal qu'ils ont fait !
@oldschoolchannel7402
@oldschoolchannel7402 5 ай бұрын
​@@RobbinNey-br3ktassez d'accord... Pendant que des soldats meurent comme des chiens... On se maquille et drague les Allemands... Assez hallucinant quand meme... Il est vrai que l'honneur ne s'achete pas.
@smoothypeachy1362
@smoothypeachy1362 5 ай бұрын
Another Story... : My father in law was in the first 2 years in france as officier, living in a house together with a french family without any problems. 1948 He came back home as POW from Russia. Years later he and his wife visited the french family and they visited them in germany and had a good time together.
@TheAnthoula14
@TheAnthoula14 6 ай бұрын
How much does everyone love this narrator? I don't care which documentary he's on, whether it's the deadliest roads series, or any of the many others he's done, his voiceovers are the most entertaining, by far....
@howlinwulf
@howlinwulf 5 ай бұрын
His emotions are sometimes felt. His nasal undertones sometimes. I can almost see his face while listening. Charming fellow
@cindymaceda2999
@cindymaceda2999 5 ай бұрын
Who is he?
@ДжонШик-п6щ
@ДжонШик-п6щ 3 ай бұрын
Как раз таки этот рассказчик очень некомпетентен, единственное, что в нём может нравиться - голос.
@monanggirsang267
@monanggirsang267 3 ай бұрын
I love the way he narrating the backstories. I don't really fond the way he translating with his voiceover, especially the female subjects. I almost laugh silly when I heard the first ones, when I should in awe about the presentation of this amazing documentary.
@JohnHenni-j6y
@JohnHenni-j6y Ай бұрын
😮This was trash not quality
@walcoman
@walcoman 6 ай бұрын
Always feel fortunate when I discover new, and authentic historical footage from WW 2 ,thanks for posting this.
@Dibipable
@Dibipable 5 ай бұрын
No no, my comment for this video: Tssssss ! Si ce n’est pas un documentaire orienté pour salir la France et les français c’est quoi ?! hein ?! J’ai regardé seulement une vingtaine de minutes cette infâme propagande qui fait parler quasiment que des allemands, alors que de surcroît ce documentaire est censé parler de la France, et le peu de français qui y parlent font quasiment que dire qu’ils admiraient leurs colonisateurs nazis. Vous montrez que ce que vous voulez montrer pour nous humilier et on sait pourquoi. Quel scandal ! Quel affront ! Personne échappe à son karma… Pourritures… Mais vive la France ! Bientôt les grandes choses suivantes, il s’agit des tribulations divines. Montjoie Saint Denis ! 👊🏻⚔️✌🏻⛪️✝️⚜️⚜️⚜️France
@uropepe
@uropepe 6 ай бұрын
I also was a soldier of the Bundeswehr, member of 1st Mountain-Division and we were sent to France in 1978 to care for Germany war graves. We have been living at French families home during this time at Châlons-en-Champagne. The French families treated us as if we were their sons. I cannot believe what other people are writing here. Meanwhile we stay at least one time every year in France and we have French friends also an ex soldier of the French army who has married a German girl. We just came back from a fortnight stay at the French Atlantic coast and I must say the French always have been very nice to us. We stayed at a camping site on Victory day two weeks ago and some of the French people even tried to speak German to us when they realized our campers number plate.
@malermeistermalermeister381
@malermeistermalermeister381 6 ай бұрын
Schön zu wissen,das es auch noch normal denkende Bewohner in Europa gibt. Der Bruder eines Onkels war im Krieg in F. stationiert. Hat dort seine Frau kennengelernt u. ist auch in F. geblieben . In D. war er später nur noch zu Besuch. Als Franzose . Mit seiner Frau u. den Kindern. Für mich als Kind war das sehr exotisch. Toller Beitrag aus der Deutsch / Französischen Geschichte diese Doku !
@leiyang477
@leiyang477 6 ай бұрын
Beautiful story! Thanks for sharing. We are one human family, always have been, always will be, never again shall we be brainwashed into fighting their wars. More and more of us are waking up to this reality. Your story fills my heart with hope and love.
@pb7201
@pb7201 6 ай бұрын
@@malermeistermalermeister381 oui, belle contribution: Un peuple de moutons contre un peuple d'assassins et de violeurs!!
@dome9911
@dome9911 6 ай бұрын
Amities 😊
@breizizel3256
@breizizel3256 5 ай бұрын
Ja genau ! Mein frau ist deutch auch ! Freudlich
@michaelfaass7345
@michaelfaass7345 6 ай бұрын
Einmalig diese Aufnahmen aus dieser Zeit, bisher noch nie gesehen. Hervorragend der Bericht. Danke dafür.
@kareldekale4987
@kareldekale4987 6 ай бұрын
Hitler's Jewish Soldiers: The Untold Story of Nazi Racial Laws and Men of Jewish Descent in the German Military (Modern War Studies) Paperback - May 6, 2002
@PedroGoncalves-sc6nt
@PedroGoncalves-sc6nt 6 ай бұрын
Romy schneider?
@kareldekale4987
@kareldekale4987 6 ай бұрын
@@PedroGoncalves-sc6nt Magda Schneider.
@aryanprivilege9651
@aryanprivilege9651 6 ай бұрын
This channel has two exceptional videos of honest reflections as human beings in conflicts we had not authored but suffered together. Veracity lets us not fear the poisonous lies vilification of historical absurdist propaganda. The narration is too perfect!
@tijanamihajlov8540
@tijanamihajlov8540 6 ай бұрын
Für was danken, alle deutsche reden umgewieckelt in weißen Handschuhen.
@neillambert8713
@neillambert8713 6 ай бұрын
It is just a different perspective of German occupation in Paris . A very different scene in the east.
@MeatUndPotatoes
@MeatUndPotatoes 6 ай бұрын
Even on the Eastern Front, the Germans were welcomed as liberators. When the Germans retreated, the Eastern refugees followed them because they knew of the savage and cruel nature of the communists.
@xGoodOldSmurfehx
@xGoodOldSmurfehx 6 ай бұрын
Germany didnt really fight the war against western democracy, the fascists viewed democracy merely as ineffective, inefficient and reactionary The real ideological clash was always against the communists
@Topvidi
@Topvidi 6 ай бұрын
A lot of east europeans made the same experience with german occupation. Dont focus on the allied propaganda even though indeed millions died
@thomass1891
@thomass1891 6 ай бұрын
@@Topvidi True, I remember talking to an old Russian lady back in 2009, she told me that during the German occupation of Stalingrad , she remembers she was very hungry and then a German soldier shared his sandwich with her.
@neillambert7106
@neillambert7106 6 ай бұрын
@@Topvidi What about the Einsatzgruppen in the East ? Was that just allied propaganda ?
@bgochicoa
@bgochicoa Ай бұрын
I worked almost fifty years ago with a skilled Czech (Sudeten) cabinetmaker at Lewis-Bilt Cabinets in Los Alamitos that had been drafted and initially stationed in France. His last name was Pilsen and he liked his pint of beer. He said that his time in France was quite pleasant and he remembered the hours spent playing cards with other German soldiers. Then - he was sent East. He was in East Prussia (Konigsberg) when it was surrounded by the Red Army in 1945 and he became a POW. No more card playing. He lived in pits surfaced with felled trees covered with dirt while he crossed the Soviet Union rebuilding railroad lines the German Army had destroyed. Every morning they would haul the dead bodies to the surface before work started. He used bits of string to floss his teeth and made an effort to remain healthy. And he couldn't even return home when he was released from a Soviet prison camp many years later. The Sudetens were viewed as traitors. It was a rich man's war and a poor man's fight. What else is new?
@WolfiBialucha
@WolfiBialucha 22 күн бұрын
@cryptoclyps5049
@cryptoclyps5049 6 ай бұрын
To everyone confused/offended by the film's supposed celebration of German occupation of France, rest assured, you ARE confused. This documentary is incredibly critical. It's very light-handed and nuanced, however, - which is frankly just good history telling. Start again at 36:30. It's basically nonstop criticism of the delusion that this was an amiable occupation, evidenced in several explicit statements, but - more interestingly - through its interviews with victims of this delusion, still stuck in pathological denial many decades later, which is quite haunting. It's very well done and lets the truth bubble to the surface without being overtly biased.
@leiyang477
@leiyang477 6 ай бұрын
One can say after 80 years, that the French, being an old civilization, (the leadership) had made a very wise decision (might appear to be "humiliating") to spare the destruction of Paris, and prolonged blood shed, potential demise of an entire generation of young people (men mostly), industrial scale destruction of the entire country, they waited the war out for three plus years, and preserved its "human resources---the true wealth of the nation".(Not hard to understand since WWI had decimated a generation of young men, the French knew this loss viscerally I imagine). Calling it protective wisdom, or cunning, it was and is still barely appreciated by its own hot heads (the Resistance). The "capitulation" needs to be reassessed, and looked in different lights. In a way, the French politicians at the time, made a decision after the Germans broke through the border, to stop playing the "War Game" (orchestrated by the Producer/Director hiding behind the scenes). A parallel can be made of General Kutuzov making the decision to give up Moscow to Napoleon during the Napoleon invasion of Russia. Many were critical of Kutuzov for this strategic retreat, but in hindsight, he preserved the Russian military fighting power and let the harsh Russian winter and time do the fighting for him---someone who knew his country well, and used the natural conditions to his advantage, avoided unnecessary loss of lives.
@MrLemonbaby
@MrLemonbaby 5 ай бұрын
@@leiyang477 What a vulgar and decadent world view you have. Following your idea there wouldn't be any civilizations because everyone would just surrender to the next Wild Bunch that came along and the next and the next.
@esi9743
@esi9743 2 ай бұрын
True. I was totally confused at the beginning
@unsere_achtziger_80s-4-U
@unsere_achtziger_80s-4-U Ай бұрын
@@leiyang477 1. while their president enjoyed his plush London exile 2. Napoleon was the one who started the invasion of peaceful countries like Germany, like Russia. It was the French Master Race who enslaved half of the world and all of Africa. Napoleon was the first Hitler. He started it. The French started it. They were the nation starting the most wars in european history! And I'm sick and tired of this french attitude. It's always the others. C'est de la m*rde.
@LUIS-ox1bv
@LUIS-ox1bv Ай бұрын
​@@leiyang477Interesting take on the occupation.
@KenjiMapes
@KenjiMapes 6 ай бұрын
We often get biased, slanted, skewed or propagandized documentaries that cover WW2 because as they say, the victors write history. Most WW2 stuff is just a rinse & repeat of what we already know - it’s mostly regurgitated & repeated stuff without any new details or facts. We often forget the human side of the history & the personal stories. Also, we get the reductive trope of Axis = bad & Allies = good. Not all the Germans were bad & not all of the US troops were saints. Anyway, seeing the home movies of Axis & Allied soldiers along with their memoirs & correspondence gives us the most personal, detailed & deep history of the war. So footage like this is incredible & important. Thank you
@pb7201
@pb7201 6 ай бұрын
Si!!! Tous les schleus ont été des assassins et des violeurs en toute impunité car couverts par leur hiérarchie!!!
@DavidBradley-w8r
@DavidBradley-w8r 6 ай бұрын
Coming from somebody who knows nothing about ww2
@benjaminlathem2745
@benjaminlathem2745 5 ай бұрын
​@user-mu5mr4vw7n there's always one
@unknwnGh0st
@unknwnGh0st 3 ай бұрын
There are germans that sacrificed themselves to save civilians in a combat situation almost forgotten to history since no one in german schools talk about them but instead teaches heavily censored one sided stuff about germanys warcrimes. Most ppl dont even know that muricans commited warcrimes on a dailybase just like red army troops
@KR72534
@KR72534 21 күн бұрын
Of course, all German soldiers were not bad people and not all allied soldiers were not good people. But this is a little consequence.
@kwark2394
@kwark2394 6 ай бұрын
En tant que jeune français de 19 ans, par comparaison aujourd'hui, je ne peux qu'observer le charme, la beauté et la classe des femmes françaises d'antan. Beau documentaire!
@leiyang477
@leiyang477 6 ай бұрын
France has hope if she has boys like you that has insight and wisdom.
@kwark2394
@kwark2394 6 ай бұрын
@@leiyang477 Thanks, yeah even french women aren't the same today.... We keep moving in the light
@leiyang477
@leiyang477 6 ай бұрын
@@kwark2394 The Great Awakening, Planetary Ascension, Dimensional Shift, Revolution of Human Consciousness! Yes, we are tuning up in vibration to reach the frequency of Love. Have you watched the 2004 French Belgian film "Le Silence de la Mer"? That film encapsulate the gist of the Love vs. War. It is based on the Vercore short story of the same name. Director Pierre Boutron, script writer Anne Giaferri did a great job, the acting of Thomas Jouannet and Julie Delarme are sublime. You would fine it reaffirming.
@MrLemonbaby
@MrLemonbaby 5 ай бұрын
How strange for you to comment on this. I just finished watching a documentary on the liberation of a Japanese camp holding several thousand American civilians and I too was profoundly struck by the charm and beauty of the women interviewed. I should reveal I suppose that I am four times your age.
@kwark2394
@kwark2394 5 ай бұрын
@@MrLemonbaby well the primary goal of my watch of this documentary was to destroy the myth that all german's soldiers were bad and all nazis. They just were soldiers like the others!
@Newie67
@Newie67 6 ай бұрын
My first visit to France as a German was in 1990 as a German soldier restoring German cemeteries for the Deutsche Kriegsgräberfürsorge. We visited Verdun and Fort Vaux in Uniform of the Bundeswehr. The French hated us still. They would call us names and spat on us. We never left the barricks in uniform again. 2019 i went with my family on a vacation to Normandy. First they would greet you but as soon the French saw our German licensplate the same thing happend. My father was a American and so i can speak English without a German accent. If the French heard me speak in English they would treat me with respect. If i spoke in German the would ignore me. My impression was that the French would wipe out that humiliation from the history books. The monuments from the first world war were all French made but the ones from the second world war were mostly sponsored from the English, Americans or Canada. For me France is done. Never again.
@Alsacien
@Alsacien 6 ай бұрын
I'm sure that you're telling the truth, but at the same time what you wrote is just so very hard to believe. I'm French and don't know anyone who actually hates German people. There's no reason to hate you. We're all well aware that the immense majority of German people alive today had nothing to do with WW2. Almost all of the people who suffered during the occupation are dead. We see Germany as our closest European partner. German culture isn't particularly fashionable in France, but we admire German engineering and efficiency. When we criticize you, it's usually because of your decision to close your nuclear power plants, because of your over-reliance on Russian gas or because Germany tends to push for economic austerity, but never about WW2. We see German car plates all the time, it's hard to imagine my fellow Frenchmen being anything other than indifferent to them. Almost every town has a monument to honor the people who died during WW1 and WW2, but we built them and paid for them, I don't know what makes you think that they were given to us by our allies, this is just false. Also, there are plenty of German war cemeteries in France and they never get desecrated. Really, your comment is very puzzling. You're our closest ally and economic partner, why would we hate you?
@thefatcoolguy
@thefatcoolguy 6 ай бұрын
​@@Alsacienthink again. Your people are some of the rudest, pettiest, meanest folk around.
@OGaratunes
@OGaratunes 6 ай бұрын
What were you expecting?
@Luftwaffengel
@Luftwaffengel 6 ай бұрын
I think you were unlucky, because there are French people who love Germany and the Germans. Maybe they were old people
@spokenbratze2361
@spokenbratze2361 6 ай бұрын
@@Alsacien As a Frenchman you can't understand that either. Since 1914, attempts have been made to rip the Germans out of their clutches. Claws that never existed. Everything is controlled from England. After 110 years of stupidity, it's not just Germany that has been culturally destroyed. The whole of Europe has lost its identity face! En tant que Français, vous ne pouvez pas non plus comprendre cela. Depuis 1914, des tentatives ont été faites pour libérer les Allemands de leur pouvoir. Des griffes qui n'ont jamais existé. Tout est contrôlé depuis l'Angleterre. Après 110 ans de stupidité, l’Allemagne n’est pas la seule à être culturellement détruite. L'Europe entière a perdu son identité !
@paulalwayslearning8573
@paulalwayslearning8573 6 ай бұрын
A great documentary that was quite balanced. The horrors of war also on full display, sad times for many.
@petrichor649
@petrichor649 6 ай бұрын
In a village outside Rouen my French girlfriend told me of a Whermacht soldier stationed at a cross roads near her Mothers house for the whole occupation. He didn't leave when the War ended, all the locals liked him. There wasn't much Germany left to go home to.
@leiyang477
@leiyang477 4 ай бұрын
He got adopted by his French village, how wonderful for him, how touching...that sounds more like a real story, how was life for him post war if you know the story?
@petrichor649
@petrichor649 3 ай бұрын
@@leiyang477 yeah, he married a local girl after the war and died in the 1980s
@neverquit6939
@neverquit6939 5 ай бұрын
This movie was unlike anything I have every seen before. Thank you. It was just incredible.
@leiyang477
@leiyang477 4 ай бұрын
We have only had the post war propaganda by the victors...
@jeremyarnie1803
@jeremyarnie1803 6 ай бұрын
To be even more specific about this video, what many people ignore is that the French police and gendarmes who helped the Nazis arrest and deport 85,000 Jews to France between 1940 and 1944 still exist today. One was created in 1791 and the other in 1941 by the same Vichy government. And also the police minister of Vichy René Bousquet was a very good friend of the former French president François Mitterrand who protected Bousquet from the death penalty after the war despite his many crimes against women and children. In short, after WWII, Germany cleaned up its past but France not really.
@betraktare1
@betraktare1 6 ай бұрын
85% of french jews survived the occupation.
@faouzielmir9894
@faouzielmir9894 6 ай бұрын
Germany hasn't arrested all the former nazis
@faouzielmir9894
@faouzielmir9894 6 ай бұрын
Germany hasn't arrested all the former nazis
@MsMungus
@MsMungus 6 ай бұрын
Sssh don’t tell them about the french ss division that defended Berlin until the last
@dommartin8814
@dommartin8814 6 ай бұрын
@@MsMungus Why "don't tell them"?? Everybody in France knows that (and Division Charlemagne, it was was only 7340 men), as well as the infamous "Milice". The past is the past, it is not hidden. There were fascists in every country.
@andreasvoss4931
@andreasvoss4931 5 ай бұрын
The French seem to always had a better way of dealing with the wars and Germany compared to the British. I am 54 years old now and served 12 years in the German Bundeswehr in a Nato unit till 2001. So one time we went with our German units into a village close to Paris for a Nato exercise. We couldn't find the exact location where we were supposed to be. We stopped our convoy and went into a French bakery for directions. When they saw us the wife called back to her husband and said: Honey...look...the Germans are back...😂.😂.......
@WesBell-l4s
@WesBell-l4s 5 ай бұрын
Yea. They ran away or folded.
@barrysims9906
@barrysims9906 5 ай бұрын
new customers, bake more bread.
@leiyang477
@leiyang477 4 ай бұрын
France knew there is no point in destroying her cities, towns, her people, her wealth....just wait the war out. The Wehrmacht made that decision an easy one. The younger generation of France should really appreciate how WWII had panned out for France. Just look at Germany, having a political leadership and ruling elite that hoodwinked its citizens into utter destruction. Will Germany ever have an honest reassessment of what happened to her people, her nation in wwii? Will Europe and the world have a honest reassessment of the war, much of what we were taught about the war are skewed and deceptive....we need a real disclosure.
@gladysmanque2095
@gladysmanque2095 3 ай бұрын
Acabo de enterarme que Donald Trump es de descendencia alemán ....... Sólo un leve comentario 🕵️ .
@itsjustnopinionok
@itsjustnopinionok 6 ай бұрын
These are the French people who believed in a lot of what the Nazi party spoke about. These where the French people who where not being persecuted or treated as lower class because they where not up to nazi standards. But others in the city had to keep low and hide to keep from being sent to a labor/death camp.
@pb7201
@pb7201 6 ай бұрын
Il ne faut pas oublier cela! Tous les allemands ont été des violeurs et des assassins de civils, applaudis par un peuple ,qui rêvait de réduire les autres à l'esclavage!!
@Svetlanafrance177.
@Svetlanafrance177. 6 ай бұрын
J'ai adoré ce reportage , il y en a d'autres dans le même thème ? svp
@morettidominique3285
@morettidominique3285 6 ай бұрын
Excellente enquête sur un sujet méconnu qui nous fait nous interroger. Documents vidéos passionnants
@dirkjanitschke3090
@dirkjanitschke3090 5 ай бұрын
Mein Opa war in Frankreich stationiert. In Paris und Umgebung als Offizier vom Bahnschutz. Für ihn war es wie Urlaub. Seine Freunde sind elendig an der Ostfront verreckt.
@columbmurray
@columbmurray 6 ай бұрын
I notice the bourgeoise French talk about the American bombing , the American army coming - no mention of the British who equal the Americans in size. The french still have a great chip of how Britain didn't surrender like they did !
@columbmurray
@columbmurray 6 ай бұрын
I'm annoyed and amazed , ' it was the Americans who won it .' what did Britain fight for then and lose more soldiers than the Americans ?
@MrSebfrench76
@MrSebfrench76 6 ай бұрын
Living on an island simplifies things, dear chap..
@leiyang477
@leiyang477 6 ай бұрын
@@columbmurray Is Britain taken over by Sadiq Khan, Rish Sunak? Will there still be Austen, Dickens and Shakespeare around in your beautiful country? War raging from within...
@johnrogers5399
@johnrogers5399 6 ай бұрын
How true... And thanks for saying it.
@johnrogers5399
@johnrogers5399 6 ай бұрын
Apparently the powers that be have been instructed to push the American effort and keep quiet about the British who gave so much... In Two World Wars.
@michaelpilling9659
@michaelpilling9659 5 ай бұрын
The best documentary about France during WW2 I have ever seen
@gdal3
@gdal3 6 ай бұрын
Looks much better than France nowadays
@leiyang477
@leiyang477 6 ай бұрын
Unconventional war they are waging on us, for many years, covert war, by different means, to destroy a culture and a people from within, by flooding it with culturally incompatible elements; by making it ever more difficult to have a family....by indoctrinating our children to turn against their parents, by seeding dissension within a society.
@Esperluet
@Esperluet 6 ай бұрын
Love war ?
@christherm
@christherm 6 ай бұрын
​odd comment.
@ImNoOne22
@ImNoOne22 6 ай бұрын
@@christherm Are they wrong? Nope.
@NS-hs6lt
@NS-hs6lt 5 ай бұрын
@@ImNoOne22Yes they are wrong. You don’t watch past 35 minutes did you? Imagine someone murdering you or your friends for sometimes nothing without due process?? You aren’t very smart are you.
@gaetangroppi1112
@gaetangroppi1112 6 ай бұрын
Quel documentaire magnifique !
@philippebaron556
@philippebaron556 6 ай бұрын
ach vranzais petit filou ; marche noir; 7E compagnie combativite ponderee; lettres de denonziations
@christiandemmler1596
@christiandemmler1596 6 ай бұрын
Maintenant on peut se visiter pendant les vacances en paix . Salut de la Bavière.
@gaetangroppi1112
@gaetangroppi1112 6 ай бұрын
@@christiandemmler1596 Magnifique Bavière !!! Salut de Bordeaux.
@Doxdomi1
@Doxdomi1 5 ай бұрын
@@christiandemmler1596 Gern geschehen
@saintleger858
@saintleger858 6 ай бұрын
Excellent documentary, impartial, realistic, without preconceptions, really very well done. Unflattering even for us French with this incredible defeat and the passivity towards the occupier afterwards. But what would I have done myself if I had been French in 1940? What an atrocious regime this Nazism is! Nowadays we have great friendship with our german neighbours .Merci pour ce film!
@carolus2110
@carolus2110 6 ай бұрын
Il n'y a malheureusement pas d'amitié avec l'Allemagne, qui aujourd'hui est la colonie U.S la plus importante en Europe, et qui avec le concours d'Urs La Hyène (pardon Ursula von der Leyen née Albrecht) nous dicte 86% du législatif décidé par Bruxelles appliqué en France. J'habite à Munich et depuis le covid, le soutien inconditionnel à l'Ukraine qui n'est que proxy war des USA contre la Russie. De Gaulle le soulignait: Il n'y a pas d'amitié entre les états...Zwischen Staaten gibt es keine Freundschaft, sondern nur Allianzen.
@jaimequimaime-autrementnon2500
@jaimequimaime-autrementnon2500 6 ай бұрын
Êtes vous sur que ce soit réciproque ?😅
@kratoleaf7619
@kratoleaf7619 6 ай бұрын
The English and French both got along with the Germans. Its the elite that had problems with Germany. Mainly the banking cartel that got kicked out of Europe when the Germans arrived. THOSE are the handful of people who started WW2, NOT the Germans.
@maxkb5515
@maxkb5515 6 ай бұрын
Impartial ?? Bull*hits !! History is always written by victorious army's
@pb7201
@pb7201 6 ай бұрын
@@maxkb5515 parce que les schleus ont écrit leur histoire dans les meurtres et viols!! Ce peuple tout entier a les mains pleines de sang!!
@sandrav542
@sandrav542 5 ай бұрын
In war people only loose there humanity.Its so good to see the intervieuws from both sides. Gratefull for this decomentary.
@xxxOerliBoerli
@xxxOerliBoerli 6 ай бұрын
klasse Dokumentation, danke dafür
@lewisdarne5852
@lewisdarne5852 6 ай бұрын
Sad indeed, But remember the French did the same to Germany after WW 1 and 2. Winston Churchill once said the victors write the history of the war.
@leiyang477
@leiyang477 6 ай бұрын
Is it possible, that Churchill and Hitler both work for the same master? Since neither seem to care much for how many young people die, and how much wealth destroyed, how much misery their respective policy would inflict on a huge swath of the world. And I don't buy the argument that the World Wars were really about Nationalism, Aggressors vs Victims....since someone always has to start the action...
@MrLemonbaby
@MrLemonbaby 5 ай бұрын
And remember that the Germans served the French just as harsh a treaty after the Franco Prussian war, which, remember was because of how harshly Napoleon treated the Prussians. And now many on that little thumb sized continent of your are dissatisfied with the EU. The begged question here is when are you finally going to get your act together?
@leiyang477
@leiyang477 5 ай бұрын
@@MrLemonbaby War has been raging all over the world. Multi-dimensional war---in the realms of information/propaganda, public health and medicine, education/indoctrination, deception/disclosure, lawfare/legislation, space and underground, ....When the disclosure build up to a critical point, people will wake up.
@Dezzasheep
@Dezzasheep 5 ай бұрын
First time I've heard the UK described as a continent. Thanks... I guess?
@lewisdarne5852
@lewisdarne5852 5 ай бұрын
@@Dezzasheep The Uk alone is not a continent. It is part of the European continent Thousands of years ago it was connected to mainland Europe until sea levels rose.
@relleh2001
@relleh2001 6 ай бұрын
Super Bericht. Danke
@josemariaparedesgalindo4765
@josemariaparedesgalindo4765 6 ай бұрын
Magnífico documental nunca visto...ahora se entiende un poco más la historia de la ocupación alemana..muchas gracias por este documental..
@pb7201
@pb7201 6 ай бұрын
NON!! Il n'y a que les moutons pour comprendre les viols et meurtres des soldats teuton applaudis par leur peuple !
@AlixLillith
@AlixLillith 3 ай бұрын
Très beau documentaire, très bien archivé et surtout bien réalisé. Aucune guerre n’est propre. C’est même ce qui fait ressortir le pire de l’Homme. En temps de guerre, chacun essaie de sauver sa peau comme il peut . Des atrocités commises, il y à parfois des parcelles d’espoirs souvent inachevés par des vies gâchées. À cette époque la, la vie humaine ne pesait pas lourd. Gardons-nous de juger une période que nous n’avons pas connu.
@molotulo8808
@molotulo8808 6 ай бұрын
My mother was an Austrian orphan raised in Germany during the war. I am proud of my mother's heritage. The German people are the great race they believed they were, and still are.
@aaronrodden8121
@aaronrodden8121 6 ай бұрын
Yeah but a lot of that "race" is no more as the war killed MOST of those Men.
@LUIS-ox1bv
@LUIS-ox1bv Ай бұрын
Lived in Germany for 7 years, and I agree with you. There is a reason why countries with Germanic peoples, are rated amongst the most affluent, orderly and clean places to live on the planet. Anyone who has visited Zurich, Hamburg, Munich, Vienna, Copenhagen and Stockholm, can attest to this. Compare any of those cities with, Cairo, Nairobi, Johannesburg, Mumbai or Bangkok. The message becomes physically clear.
@voxxclamantis9668
@voxxclamantis9668 5 ай бұрын
It was about protecting Europe from Communism Bolsevism not conquering.
@gobanito
@gobanito 5 ай бұрын
😄😄😄😄😄😄😄
@rationalistssj6540
@rationalistssj6540 2 ай бұрын
Sure, that's why they murdered millions of Frenchmen, Belgians, Yugoslavians, Poles, British, etc and millions of innocent Jews who didn't even know what communism was
@littlefluffybushbaby7256
@littlefluffybushbaby7256 7 күн бұрын
Thank you Mr Goebbels
@EamonnLoughran-ev7ux
@EamonnLoughran-ev7ux 6 ай бұрын
It's amazing to watch how the french under occupation are speaking well of the Germans.. no wonder they capitulated...
@dome9911
@dome9911 6 ай бұрын
lisez mon article
@Ratselmeister
@Ratselmeister 2 ай бұрын
Well, they might have just thought about the several times they invaded germany, and thought ok, now its your turn, we still leading the board.
@johnsmith-mq4eq
@johnsmith-mq4eq 6 ай бұрын
How did these French civilians afford cine film in 1940-55 ordinary British families could not it was very rare they could,
@charlesmartella
@charlesmartella 6 ай бұрын
The French kept their antique city Paris in tact while England had London destroyed. The Germans couldn't advance as fast as the French retreated. The Poms would have been better off without them.
@kat13man
@kat13man 6 ай бұрын
Incredibly good. Thank you.
@stephanehenri7748
@stephanehenri7748 5 ай бұрын
Mon grand père français a été prisonnier pendant 5 ans dans une ferme en allemande et très bien traité par toute la famille . Même les enfants lui donnaient leur affection car il leur avait montré que lui en France il avait une petite fille de cinq ans comme eux . Après la guerre il a continué à correspondre avec cette famille . Il m’a toujours dit que les allemands de la Vermart étaient comme les français des gens normaux et il n’entretenait aucune haine contre eux . En revanche il disait que les nazis n’étaient pas humains et n’avaient rien à voir avec le peuple allemand.
@heinzfissimatent4294
@heinzfissimatent4294 3 ай бұрын
sehr interessante doku. mit viel gegenseitigem verständniss. aber was mich fassungslos zurückläßt ist dieser kommunistische deutsche soldat. das sind immer wieder die gleichen verstrahlten idioten. IMMER. auch in der heutigen deutschen situation.
@calarota9641
@calarota9641 3 ай бұрын
Pues gracias a la liberacion ya no hay franceses en francia,solo africanos,creo q la victoria fue peor que lo que habria sido la derrota.
@sandrahoefner
@sandrahoefner 2 ай бұрын
Im deutschen Dorf meiner deutschen Großmutter waren französische Kriegsgefangene für Arbeit. Meine deutsche Großmutter war damals 20 Jahre alt. Sie und ein Franzose verliebten sich. Aber das war verboten von Nsdap. Später wurde sie schwanger von ihm. Nachbarn hatte das Liebespaar gesehen und gemeldet bei der Polizei. Der Franzose wurde erschossen, ihr wurde öffentlich auf Marktplatz alle Haare abgeschnitten und verspottet. Dann kam sie in das Gefängnis. Das Kind wurde im Gefängnis geboren und danach getötet.
@LUIS-ox1bv
@LUIS-ox1bv Ай бұрын
​@@calarota9641General George C.Patton, remarked that we were fighting the wrong people. Think about that for a spell.
@berndhofmann752
@berndhofmann752 6 ай бұрын
Ein Glück Wie aus Erbfeinden Freunde wurden! Ich bin als Schüler oft nach Frankreich gefahren! Damals war der Beginn der jumelage fanco-allemande. Es war eine wunderschöne Zeit. Zentraleuropa ist das erste mal seit Karl dem Großen wieder vereint! ❤❤❤❤
@theojongen
@theojongen 6 ай бұрын
Ein braver soldat doesn't translate to a brave soldier but an obedient compliant one
@johnsmith-mq4eq
@johnsmith-mq4eq 6 ай бұрын
Over 30,000 French women legally married German soldiers 1940-45 so for them the occupation was different to the usual picture
@capoislamort100
@capoislamort100 6 ай бұрын
It was more than that; plus, the number of illegitimate children born from German soldiers, were in the hundreds of thousands.
@Topvidi
@Topvidi 6 ай бұрын
the "usual picture" is made up of allied propaganda. The fairytale of an evil germany is ridiculous
@intelprointelpro4452
@intelprointelpro4452 6 ай бұрын
C'est la collaboration horizontale 🤣🤣🤣
@michelgouverneur885
@michelgouverneur885 6 ай бұрын
yes .
@michelchanu1027
@michelchanu1027 6 ай бұрын
IL n'y a pas eu que la collaboration horizontale , il y a eu aussi la collaboration idéologique sans compter la collaboration économique de toutes les couches de la société ; les industriels , les leaders de la corporation paysanne , et beaucoup de grandes caves viticoles ...
@marcwinfield1541
@marcwinfield1541 6 ай бұрын
My mom also experienced the occupation. The German soldiers were friendly and proper. They helped people. But they were harsh when they encountered resistance fighters. Because of course, these were communists.
@MooJoo
@MooJoo 6 ай бұрын
I guess we can assume your mom wasn't Jewish. The Germans certainly wouldn't have been so friendly and proper then...
@Ratselmeister
@Ratselmeister 2 ай бұрын
Did france had the same problems with armed communist troups after world war one as germany had? (Here they even occupied munich once)
@marcwinfield1541
@marcwinfield1541 2 ай бұрын
@@Ratselmeister no, France didn't have the violent uprisings that represented communiSt attempted takeovers such as Munich, Hungary, Poland , Mexico (Christeros Rebellion) or Spain between the two world wars. These various so-called "popular revolutions" were based on Trotsky's concept of violent takeover. Even though admittedly two of the above examples took place after his ouster from the USSR.
@Ratselmeister
@Ratselmeister 2 ай бұрын
@@marcwinfield1541 thanks.
@michelchanu1027
@michelchanu1027 6 ай бұрын
On croit se battre pour des idées et des valeurs , mais on meurt toujours pour les intérêts économiques d'une caste !
@leiyang477
@leiyang477 6 ай бұрын
Yes, for the Directors and Producers of the show/play. They decide on how the play ends.
@abfab7830
@abfab7830 3 ай бұрын
hou la ...
@michelchanu1027
@michelchanu1027 3 ай бұрын
@@abfab7830 , quand les cocos de la SFIO de Marcel Dèat en croquaient au côté des bons disciples de l'action française ... la soupe de la collaboration avec les nazis était trop bonne ... cherchez l'erreur ... faut juste aller un peu gratter dans l'historique de la boutique de mamie zinzin pour comprendre ...
@abfab7830
@abfab7830 3 ай бұрын
@@michelchanu1027 j'ai l'humilité de reconnaître que j'aurais cherché à améliorer mon petit confort.
@michelchanu1027
@michelchanu1027 3 ай бұрын
@@abfab7830 , ce qui est malheureux , c'est que la même partie est entrain de se jouer sous nos yeux avec le même genre d'acteurs ... nous glissons vers un totalitarisme hybride , celui mis en place par Staline et celui mis en place par Hitler réunis ... sachant que ni Hitler , ni Staline ne sont les penseurs du système !
@user-gu7kk5zk2b
@user-gu7kk5zk2b 5 ай бұрын
I was born in 1947 to Parisiennes who managed to have a more benign attitude towards the Germans than I still have. Perhaps I have a less forgiving nature but their stories and seeing books on the concentration camps when I was a child hardened me.perhaps my French parents were more pro Nazi than they let on.
@tabularasa7775
@tabularasa7775 6 ай бұрын
Robert Marot was the only one that wasn't suffering some kind of syndrome in this documentary
@et1161
@et1161 5 ай бұрын
In den letzten Tagen der Besatzung von Paris, ist mein Vater in seinem offenen Militärauto, allein, vor Erschöpfung eingeschlafen. An einer Strasse. Als er erwachte, waren einige Menschen um ihn, die in unbehelligt weiter fahren liessen. Die Franzosen hätten ihn leicht festnehmen oder töten können.😮🇫🇷
@octaviocovarrubias3282
@octaviocovarrubias3282 4 ай бұрын
As always, an excellent analysis, thank you for the video...
@pilsudski36
@pilsudski36 6 ай бұрын
A period of French history that the French would like to forget. Shameful.
@miss-gatito369
@miss-gatito369 6 ай бұрын
shut up, sweep out your door, especially if you are British or American (genocide of entire populations throughout the world, submission to peasants in Vietnam, neutral during the war supplied arms to the Germans in secret CIA DOCUMENT declassification) In short, no one is perfect but you hit the jackpot
@Triz-c2j
@Triz-c2j 6 ай бұрын
That says far more about you than it does about the French.
@jocelyneb
@jocelyneb 5 ай бұрын
@ PILDUSKI I DO NOT UNDERSTAND YOUR COMMENT ! What is shameful ? PLEASE TELL ME From which country are you ?
@Ratselmeister
@Ratselmeister 2 ай бұрын
Why shamefull, nice to see not all french are butchers who adore napoleon, and that there where germans who could differ between politics and people.
@LUIS-ox1bv
@LUIS-ox1bv Ай бұрын
They celebrate Bastille Day, which inaugurated one of the most shameful periods in their history; the French Revolution. The French have never been great since that bloody debacle.
@marcelricha8346
@marcelricha8346 6 ай бұрын
Après la défaite allemande, beaucoup de Français ont pleuré! A Marseille pat ex. ,je m' en souviens encore!
@thierryrebillard6432
@thierryrebillard6432 6 ай бұрын
Avant de dire n'importe quoi informe toi espèce d'idiot !! L'Homme qui pleure - entre autres titres - est une image prise le 15 septembre 1940, montrant un homme pleurant devant le défilé sur la Canebière, à Marseille, des drapeaux des régiments français dissous qui quittent la métropole pour Alger, en Algérie française, quatre mois après la défaite de mai-juin 1940 et l'Armistice. La scène a été filmée par Marcel de Renzis, photographe au journal local Le Petit Marseillais et correspondant de l’agence américaine Keystone en France. L'image n'a en fait pas de titre précis, mais est parfois évoquée sous les noms de « the weeping Frenchman » (litt. « le Français en larmes »), « l'homme qui pleure », « l'homme en pleurs de 1940 » ou « le Marseillais qui pleure ». Cette image, comme film ou comme simple cliché issu du film, est mondialement diffusée et devient un symbole de la douleur de la France défaite par l'Allemagne nazie, particulièrement célèbre aux États-Unis. Le documentaire de propagande Diviser pour régner (1943) de Frank Capra l'inclut. Des erreurs sont cependant régulièrement commises et diffusées autour de l'origine de la photo, prétendant notamment qu'il s'agirait d'un Parisien pleurant à l'arrivée des troupes allemandes dans Paris en 1940.
@GilMarquesDuarte
@GilMarquesDuarte 6 ай бұрын
Poor things.
@Esperluet
@Esperluet 6 ай бұрын
On peut savoir pourquoi ?
@BStrapper
@BStrapper 6 ай бұрын
Those in the milice were not happy for sure
@centreeuropeendeformationa3518
@centreeuropeendeformationa3518 5 ай бұрын
C'est parfaitement compréhensible. Énormément de français trouvaient sympathique ces allemands civilisés contrairement à ces barbares d'américains qui sont venus coloniser et non libérer la France, sans compter les viols de masse sur les françaises. Sujet tabou
@amer9208
@amer9208 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for this
@palicsfurdo
@palicsfurdo 6 ай бұрын
History is not black and white. Never. It's just a myth that in France everyone hated the Germans and vice versa. Daily life was normal, love between people was also normal. (If it hadn't been like that, it wouldn't have been normal.) For the Germans themselves, it was also entirely in their interest that everything ran normally in everyday life and that the occupation of France was as bearable as it could be. The entire myth of “Resistance” was only systematically “expanded” and spread after 1945 in order to rebuild a proud national consciousness. Because the truth was much simpler and more commonplace between 1940 and 1944. Sincerely, a historian.
@DasLamm68
@DasLamm68 6 ай бұрын
The "Master" himself, Charles de Gaulles, never hated the Germans and Germany. In WW1 he was badly injured, captured by Germans and his life was rescued by German medicals. During his time in German prison, he learned the German language and despite he attempted to flee several times he wasn't treated bad.
@leiyang477
@leiyang477 6 ай бұрын
Makes a lot of sense.
@BStrapper
@BStrapper 6 ай бұрын
Most french hated the germans, and THAT is not a myth. Even though it does not fit your francophobic narrative.
@DasLamm68
@DasLamm68 6 ай бұрын
@@BStrapper If they do indeed, they must be very good pretenders.
@mikefamex8405
@mikefamex8405 5 ай бұрын
​@@DasLamm68"The master" live in security in London. Churchill hated him.
@adamjanowitz870
@adamjanowitz870 5 ай бұрын
Elképesztő és megdöbbentő az a hiteles dokumentumfilm! Senki sem maradt érintetlen a háború szörnyűségétől, az én nagyszüleim szerencsére túlélték, még gyerekek voltak. Üdvözlet Magyarországról
@Laura-wb2se
@Laura-wb2se 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for uploading. Subject matter is very interesting and I appreciated the narration - very easy listening w/o extras adding unnecessary commentary. 😅
@franktelge7221
@franktelge7221 6 ай бұрын
The reactions of people are normal. Many families suffered greatly under the German occupation. We should not forget but also need to move forward to work on mutual understanding, trust, and friendships.
@charlesgrymko6796
@charlesgrymko6796 6 ай бұрын
But Not Forget history of the war All parts
@hober522
@hober522 Ай бұрын
Tu parle de l'occupation, mais tu oublies de rappeler que c'est la France qui a déclaré la Guerre a l'Allemagne le 3 septembres 1939 (sous Prétexte d'un pacte avec la Pologne contre toute agresseur - or la Pologne a été agressé par 2 nations : par l'Allemagne et par l'URSS. Mais la France n'a pas déclaré la guerre a l'URSS mais uniquement a l'Allemagne) Donc le Peuple allemande a vécu pendant dix mois dans la peur et a été soulagé et heureux après la défaite de la France, se qui est tout a fait compréhensible..... Et si tu déclare la guerre a une autre nation et le résultat c'est "seulement" l'occupation de ton pays, tu a eu beaucoup de chance...!
@mariecalverley8289
@mariecalverley8289 6 ай бұрын
Un tres touchant souvenir comme on peut aussi s entendre ...❤
@khalidalali186
@khalidalali186 Ай бұрын
Great documentary. Thanks for uploading.
@CountryFenderBass
@CountryFenderBass 2 ай бұрын
My Opa was in the 8th Panzer Division. He was in the French Campaign and stayed in the division until May 1945. I have photos of him and his crew in Paris visiting the sights
@Luftwaffengel
@Luftwaffengel 2 ай бұрын
The photos must be great, will you publish them one day?
@CountryFenderBass
@CountryFenderBass 2 ай бұрын
@@Luftwaffengel I have photos of his training with the PAK36. A couple photos of his crew on leave in Paris. And 2 posed photos of him. One in combat uniform and one in dress uniform. I have no actual combat photos. But I do own a book about the 8th PD and he is in a couple of photos along with his friend and CO, Capt Amsel.
@maxkb5515
@maxkb5515 6 ай бұрын
N oubliez pas que le viol d une femme etait punie de mort si un allemand violait une française. Ce que l'on ne veut pas vous dire c est qu au contraire, les américains s'en sont donné à coeur joie
@franciscouderq1100
@franciscouderq1100 6 ай бұрын
Les soviets aussi
@dotany62
@dotany62 6 ай бұрын
Et les ordures de la milice et autres serviteurs des boches.
@thepny_chasseur_de_tricera5361
@thepny_chasseur_de_tricera5361 5 ай бұрын
Il y'a littéralement eux des peine de morts pour viol les premiers jours du débarquement
@breizizel3256
@breizizel3256 5 ай бұрын
Heu non ! Il y a eu des exécutions aussi ! Des noirs
@breizizel3256
@breizizel3256 5 ай бұрын
​@@franciscouderq1100les soviétiques , après e qu on fait les allemands chez eux !.... de plus il était des sous homme sortis du moyen âge , à peine , des bêtes ! Ils n'avaient que un mot à la bouche = UHR ils n'en avaient jamais vu !!!
@wilmapalominos7379
@wilmapalominos7379 6 ай бұрын
Macron debería ver este documental!!! Para que no siga amenazando con hacer la guerra, son los pueblos los que sufren, ellos ni sus hijos van a la guerra.
@leiyang477
@leiyang477 6 ай бұрын
Macron does not make decisions, he works for the Davos crowd.
@marcwinfield1541
@marcwinfield1541 6 ай бұрын
Macrons brain would probably short-circuit if he saw this!
@revogermania.8996
@revogermania.8996 6 ай бұрын
Ihr könnt gerne unseren deutschen Kanzler Olaf Scholz haben was er heute sagt hat er morgen wieder vergessen 😂
@PatrickFreret
@PatrickFreret 3 ай бұрын
Même à l'étranger macron est mal aimé !
@anetteespinoza1139
@anetteespinoza1139 Ай бұрын
Francia precisamente cayó luego de la invasión alemana de Polonia y Checoslovaquia, en ese entonces también habían miles de europeos cobardes como tu que solo reaccionaron cuando los aviones alemanes destruían Londres
@katr8756
@katr8756 6 ай бұрын
Awesome doc!! And not censored!!! Just awesome!!
@cariethen6709
@cariethen6709 4 ай бұрын
superbe reportage ou l'on apprends certaines choses inconnus de nous enfants nés aprés la seconde guerre mondiale .merci pour ce partage
@asullivan4047
@asullivan4047 6 ай бұрын
Interesting/informative/entertaining. Excellent photography job along with guest speakers. Enabling viewers to better understand what the orator is describing-!!!😉.
@DJAMEL-r5y
@DJAMEL-r5y 6 ай бұрын
a vous lire la relation avec les allemands etait idylique et oradour c est du gateau
@jocelyneb
@jocelyneb 5 ай бұрын
​@@DJAMEL-r5y Ce serait des SS qui se seraient vengé...
@christihiatt3459
@christihiatt3459 6 ай бұрын
That first frame about soldiers fraternizing was actually French police. Many of those guys were pro fascist depending on the locale
@Ratselmeister
@Ratselmeister 2 ай бұрын
Understandable. France always had a bug commie problem.
@KeelsF2F
@KeelsF2F 6 ай бұрын
I'm so thankful to not have lived during that time, as an occupier or one of the occupied, when I suspect that for most on either side, their major concern was the well-being of their families. Whether one resisted as one of the conquered or deserted as a German soldier, their loved ones as well as themselves would be made to pay the price. Excellent perspective and well-presented, by the way. Kudos.
@johnsgro5942
@johnsgro5942 6 ай бұрын
I wouldn't have loved to live during that time as a German in the SS
@xGoodOldSmurfehx
@xGoodOldSmurfehx 6 ай бұрын
No matter which side you are on i reckon its far better seeing occupiers being nice to locals than massacring them Even if the smiles are not genuine
@pb7201
@pb7201 6 ай бұрын
C'est facile de se montrer "gentils" en face de violeurs et d"assassins capables de vous mitrailler si vous ne leur donnez pas tout ce qu'ils exigent!!
@spannaspinna
@spannaspinna 6 ай бұрын
Well they did wipe out entire villages in France
@vanessar6252
@vanessar6252 4 ай бұрын
So eine unfassbar gute Doku! Dankeschön!
@stevesmith7997
@stevesmith7997 6 ай бұрын
Stunning work! Thank you!
@TheTarget1980
@TheTarget1980 5 ай бұрын
Nunja, hätten die Franzosen uns am 3. September 1939 nicht den Krieg erklärt, wäre ihnen womöglich auch die Besatzungszeit erspart geblieben.
@Luftwaffengel
@Luftwaffengel 5 ай бұрын
Ich bin Französin und stimme dir zu, es war nutzlos. Warum tun?
@unsere_achtziger_80s-4-U
@unsere_achtziger_80s-4-U Ай бұрын
@@Luftwaffengel Weil Franzosen (und Französinnen :-) sich nicht von der Wirklichkeit vorschreiben lassen, wie etwas ist.
@johnsmith-mq4eq
@johnsmith-mq4eq 6 ай бұрын
The French with England and other countries plundered Germany through the Paris peace treaty in 1919 and again in1945 without a peace treaty
@ron88303
@ron88303 6 ай бұрын
Maybe don't start a war you can't finish?
@kareldekale4987
@kareldekale4987 6 ай бұрын
@@ron88303 Waters flowing eastward-L.Fry
@p6268
@p6268 6 ай бұрын
Frankreich hatte 1939 Deutschland den Krieg erklärt....nicht vergessen
@SantolinedesCollines
@SantolinedesCollines 6 ай бұрын
Par le jeu des alliances la France était tenue au même titre que la Grande Bretagne d'être solidaire avec la Pologne envahie. l'Allemagne avait fait alliance avec l'Italie et le Japon.
@Topvidi
@Topvidi 6 ай бұрын
@@ron88303 Germany did not start any war at all as it was Britain which didnt want a strong european power. Allied propaganda
@АлексейНесмеянов-ъ6у
@АлексейНесмеянов-ъ6у 6 ай бұрын
для французов и немцев это война не была войной на уничтожение или за выживание. больше похоже на феодальные разборки. а нам пришлось с немцами воевать за выживание. они к нам относились как к неграм.
@sarsanch
@sarsanch 6 ай бұрын
Yo creo que peor, os querian exterminar!
@biglebowski5737
@biglebowski5737 6 ай бұрын
you have a sick mind. Are your racist?
@scream6878
@scream6878 6 ай бұрын
Разговаривал с одним "негром" ветераном Вермахта, который в плену после войны жил. Его отец был коренным африканцем из немецкой колонии, аскари или как его там. Говорил отношение было в целом нейтральное от властей, но прохожие часто подшучивали. Говорил повезло ему, что отец его солдат колониальных сил Германии, потому что остальных мулатов те что французы кастрировали химически и всячески принижали.
@АлексейНесмеянов-ъ6у
@АлексейНесмеянов-ъ6у 6 ай бұрын
@@scream6878 вот и нас они кастрировали бы или убили
@leiyang477
@leiyang477 6 ай бұрын
Sadly, the "leaders" wants power and legacy, so they wage war, and the common folk end up shed blood to fight their war. It is high time we open our eyes and separate the people from their "leaders/governments". The governments are NOT the people, and the people (the common soldiers) are not their Governments......This seems a simple idea, but most of us do not distinguish the two. Once you see it, you will never unsee it.
@Bucknut72470
@Bucknut72470 6 ай бұрын
Very good film. I devoured all the unseen footage!
@DANIEL666YUSUPOV_KAZANOVA
@DANIEL666YUSUPOV_KAZANOVA 5 ай бұрын
Very interesting documentary thank you very much for posting 🙏🏻
@hopefaithlove9646
@hopefaithlove9646 2 ай бұрын
Fantastic Documentary Thank you Kindly for Respecting my Adult Decision to watch what l won't and seeing the truth without Bluuuring the pictures ❤️🙏🙏❤️
@Eddy_Spaghetty
@Eddy_Spaghetty 6 ай бұрын
danke für diese zeitkapsel 👌
@maxkb5515
@maxkb5515 6 ай бұрын
1:32:40 comme quand les Alliés ont rayé de la carte impitoyablement Le Havre, Dresde et de tant d autres villes et villages Françaises et Allemandes
@miss-gatito369
@miss-gatito369 6 ай бұрын
c'etait voulu l'amerique joue toujours double jeux et comme disait de gaul par pire alliée qu'eux ils compter nous faire une colonisation et nous mettre sous dominance du dollars
@LuciaPinares-sx7sj
@LuciaPinares-sx7sj 4 ай бұрын
Magnífico documental algo típico en este canal y más al tratar este tema candente pues en medio del dolor y la guerra el amor siempre vive
@chriskowalski7038
@chriskowalski7038 3 ай бұрын
Great to see some never before seen footage...Some of the best was taken by the amateur videographers .
@johnsmith-mq4eq
@johnsmith-mq4eq 6 ай бұрын
With the signing of the Hitler -Stalin pact in 1939 Stalin gave orders to the 3 million Communist members in France many in the French armed forces not to resist the German invasion. So many put up a very weak defence if any at all.
@leiyang477
@leiyang477 6 ай бұрын
Wow, never heard of this, from the Soviet Archive? The Com-Intern did lots of treachery during the wars, both WWi and ii. Too bad, these deeds are hidden from ordinary citizens because the big wigs use them like a pieces on the chessboard, therefore do not let their media arm talk about it. Many countries had civil wars after the end of wwii, often between the conservatives and the communists....this piece of history is often not known collectively to the world population, because we are still under the spell of Nationalism....we don't see that our collective fate as humanity are rooted in the understanding that we need to embrace each other, not fighting each other.
@spannaspinna
@spannaspinna 6 ай бұрын
Sounds like a wild story
@frederictouchard1079
@frederictouchard1079 6 ай бұрын
Touchant. Très touchant. Tous ces témoignages de simples êtres humains.
@greentree8883
@greentree8883 5 ай бұрын
Die deutschen Truppen wurden in vielen Ländern von der Zivilbevölkerung geschätzt. Sie wurden begrüßt mit Brot und Essen. Die Menschen vieler Länder, haben unter den "Befreiern" deutlich mehr gelitten.
@adrianschneider4616
@adrianschneider4616 3 ай бұрын
Der dümmliche Reichsbürger sieht das so, ja.
@cmNET21
@cmNET21 2 ай бұрын
Absolument. Les USA avec leur volonté de dominer le monde, les russes après 1945 qui ont imposé le communisme dans les pays de l'est et la RDA. que ce que ça a donné ?? Il y en a encore qui croient de nos jours que le communisme c'est le partage des biens et ressources pour faire simple ?? 😅😅😅
@mariar4431
@mariar4431 21 күн бұрын
Excellent. Thank you.
@elenivargis126
@elenivargis126 3 ай бұрын
I lived & worked in Paris in the 90s and the French were still trying to reconcile their Vichy past w/ La Gloire de France = an impossible task since a large portion was, and remains, not racist per se, but convinced the French are superior - and this is exactly where their interests intersected with the Nazis. "French Schizophrenia" as you so aptly put it = Great documentary with fantastic narration! Thank you.
@LUIS-ox1bv
@LUIS-ox1bv Ай бұрын
They also need to reconcile with the extreme actions taken by Revolutionistas during the French Revolution. Which I look upon as a drebacle and disaster that France has never fully recovered from. It was a Pandora's box releasing evils the world is still confronting these days
@Gerd_Bod
@Gerd_Bod 6 ай бұрын
Von den Filmausschnitten gewinnt man dan Eindruck, daß die deutsche Besatzung im großen und ganzen, zumindest in der Anfangszeit- korrekter verlief als die vergleichbare Besatzungszeit durch die Franzosen bei der Rheinlandbesetzung oder der späteren Besatzungszeit in Süddeutschland. Übergriffe gegenüber der Zivilbevölkerung waren wohl die Ausnahme. Oder ist dieser Eindruck falsch?
@helmuthaberkost4901
@helmuthaberkost4901 6 ай бұрын
Dein Eindruck entspricht der damaligen Realität, bis die Franzosen und andere besetzte Länder von den Alliierten Kriegstreibern aufgehetzt wurden und Verbrechen an Deutschen!!! Dies sollte Vergeltungsmassnahmen provozieren, um die Gewaltspirale anzutreiben!!!
@Ratselmeister
@Ratselmeister 2 ай бұрын
Nunja, bei der Besetzung Frankreichs lag der letzte zermürbende Krieg schon einige Zeit in der Vergangenheit. Sowohl Frankreich als auch Deutschland waren wieder recht wohlständige Länder. Nach Kriegsende 45 waren beide Länder zerstört, die Bevölkerung litt Hunger, war verroht und hat viel erlitten. Die psychische Verfassung der Leute war eine komplett andere. Die Gesellschaft war komplett desolat noch Jahre nach Kriegsende und die Leute konnten nichtmehr ihren Nachbarn vertrauen.
@robertsenechal1112
@robertsenechal1112 6 ай бұрын
A few months ago in France I met a guy with a german look (physical and face), he seems to be beetween 70 to 80 years old but well preserved and proud of is appearence, wears a wig and teinted hairs. The guy was talking easily and searching for people to talk with about what he owns, and he's leaving Normandy in Cotentin. As we are close to 80 years D-day celebrations, I asked him about WW2 events in his village and he learned me a lot of american soldiers were killed by germans behind or near is property during 1944 summer. Stangely as it seems, the meaning he told me about that, he was smiling and almost happy of these killing during his narrative, afraid me. He spoked about that as he was the author. I immediatly supposed bad things about him, with a curious and instintive feeling I supposed him to be a son of a german soldier and a french woman. I searched for hundreds of german soldiers pictures on internet and found one with a guy that looks like him enormously ! I am persuaded he is his father ! The picture from wehrmacht was taken in france near the sea board in 1940, and we know germans prisoners stayed and worked in farms until the en of 40's. Please help !
@HauptmannDE
@HauptmannDE 6 ай бұрын
The French in the north are Germanic too
@rosaoddin4338
@rosaoddin4338 6 ай бұрын
Please help with what?
@BStrapper
@BStrapper 6 ай бұрын
1 chance in a million... like winning the lotto... keep dreaming...😂
@epona3569
@epona3569 4 ай бұрын
Which help do you need?? Searching a picture ??
@robertsenechal1112
@robertsenechal1112 4 ай бұрын
@@epona3569 Need to know name on a picture
@tic-tac-123
@tic-tac-123 5 ай бұрын
Die Fehler der Vergangenheit, sowie die Geschichte haben Sinn nur wenn man was davon lernt. 2 Völker die hunderten Jahren gegenseitig und ständig zwischen Hass und Faszination gelebt haben, haben vor ca. 70 Jahre ein Weg gefunden in Frieden und Respekt zusammen zu arbeiten. Mit Licht und Schatten, ein großes Vorbild für die ganze Menschheit.
@alexandrekaminski3527
@alexandrekaminski3527 5 ай бұрын
I don't think there was any hate before Napoleon and then later after unification of the german reich and Bismark. The "hereditary" ennemy - expression we use in France - is not Germany, it was always England... I don't know why we started fighting together but, well for sure, we ended dropping the status of Europe forever as a secondary player in the world. What a shame...
@LUIS-ox1bv
@LUIS-ox1bv Ай бұрын
​@@alexandrekaminski3527Agree. France was in more conflicts with England. Germany was not even a country until 1871.
@andysPARK
@andysPARK 5 ай бұрын
Thank you. It really helps in understanding.
@Mitsuhirato.
@Mitsuhirato. 6 ай бұрын
Magnifique documentaire.
@fibosxpivots6238
@fibosxpivots6238 6 ай бұрын
If I was president here, I'd pay every Frenchman a 14 day trip to Berlin or Munich or Cologne. The cost,...maybe around 20 billion but, it would at least be hyper positive !
@leiyang477
@leiyang477 6 ай бұрын
Why, do the French lack knowledge or understanding of the Germans? Just curious.
@jocelyneb
@jocelyneb 5 ай бұрын
Why ?
@leiyang477
@leiyang477 5 ай бұрын
@@jocelyneb Just curious to know if they still had any presence and influence in the French political scene. Have they lost influence amongst the younger generation?
@rommassoud
@rommassoud 6 ай бұрын
Après l'occupation allemande, les arabes, la France toujours occupée.
@kaha6987
@kaha6987 6 ай бұрын
Fallait pas occuper les arabes alors ..
@rommassoud
@rommassoud 6 ай бұрын
@@kaha6987 De quoi tu parles : Charles Martel, Poitiers, ça te dit quelque chose ? Benyamin Netanyahou, vaincra de l'Hamas, il est de la même trempe que Charles et le roi lépreux. Pas comme ce qui nous gouverne depuis 80 ans.
@DJAMEL-r5y
@DJAMEL-r5y 6 ай бұрын
n importe quoi
@breizizel3256
@breizizel3256 5 ай бұрын
​@@kaha6987cette vermine doit rentrer au bled ! 😊
@LUIS-ox1bv
@LUIS-ox1bv Ай бұрын
And like they did with the Germans, they're not only colloborating, but also working to ensure their replacement. North Africans, sub Saharan Africans. Asians. Avoire, Le France! Bonjour, whatever!
@michaelhetze5578
@michaelhetze5578 6 ай бұрын
Sehr gute Dokumentation. Was man hier aber vergisst, Frankreich hatte Deutschland den Krieg erklärt, nicht andersrum..!!!
@amyr.8283
@amyr.8283 5 ай бұрын
After Hitler's deliberate provocation by invading Poland. He knew the consequences and proceeded anyways.
@michaelhetze5578
@michaelhetze5578 5 ай бұрын
@@amyr.8283 Kennen sie das Buch, „Der Krieg der viele Väter hatte“? Dort wird aufgezeigt welche intrigante und verbrecherische Rolle Polen vor dem Ausbruch des 2.WK hatte. Die Polen haben seit dem 1.WK tausende deutsch Sprachige in Schlesien, Pommer und Ostpreußen ermordet. Das wird nicht erzählt..
@Annemarie-tt5fl
@Annemarie-tt5fl 4 ай бұрын
​@@amyr.8283Immediately after the creation of the state of Poland in 1918, 16,000 Germans were imprisoned in the Szcypiomo and Stralkowo concentration camps near Posen and 1 million Germans were expelled. From March to September '39, another 50,000 Germans were interned in Poland and subjected to severe mistreatment. In 1939, a concentration camp was also set up in Chodzen (between Leslau and Kutno) in a former sugar factory and 7,000 Germans, including women, children, old people and cripples, were imprisoned and maltreated. In Bromberg, 5,437 Germans were victims of brutal murder by Poles as a prelude to the invasion of Poland. (Protocols can be read in the files of the Federal Archives/Military Archives in Freiburg/Brg.!)
@samkitty5894
@samkitty5894 4 ай бұрын
Smallest book ever written...."Italian and French heroes of WWII"
@littlefluffybushbaby7256
@littlefluffybushbaby7256 7 күн бұрын
Please tell us about your combat experiences.
@AXS512
@AXS512 6 ай бұрын
From what I've seen,those that "collaborated" (or just wanted to have peace) was very large in almost all the occupied countries in the West. Because the Germans lost we don't hear much about that. But had they won,those numbers would have ended as a majority. There is historical research that says that in the US at the start of the American Revolution. One third of the people supported the rebels. One third supported the British. And one third just wanted to be neutral. But as the revolution proceeded the one third that wanted neutrality saw that the rebels were winning and started to side with them. I suspect that is most people in the world. They want peace and will side with the winners hoping to be left in peace.
@LUIS-ox1bv
@LUIS-ox1bv Ай бұрын
NYC at that time, had Royalist sympathies. Many Royalists fled to Canada. Being someone who is not a fan of republicanism, I can understand your point.
@intelprointelpro4452
@intelprointelpro4452 6 ай бұрын
Tous mes grands-pères lorrains ont été incorporés de force dans l'armée allemande. C'étaient des Malgré-Nous mosellans. S'ils ne se présentaient pas aux autorités allemandes leur famille était déportée dans un camp de concentration. L'un d'eux le père à ma mère venait de terminer son service militaire dans l'armée française puis il s'est retrouvé sur le front russe comme estafette à moto dans la Werhmacht. Fin 1943 il a déserté lors d'une permission et poursuivi par les nazis il en a tué 3 pour sauver sa vie et celle d'autres copains déserteurs. Heureusement l'armée du général Patton est arrivée peu après. Ma famille a beaucoup souffert de l'occupation allemande. La jeune génération ne connait plus l'histoire et les mentalités changent, c'est l'oubli de la mémoire. En tant qu'ancien militaire j'ai assisté à la cérémonie de réconciliation entre Mitterrand et Kohl à Verdun en septembre 1984, à l'Ossuaire de Douaumont tous les morts sont ensemble !
@michel3anches
@michel3anches 3 ай бұрын
merci pr votre témoignage.J'ai rencontré personnellement le fils de Dietrich von Choltitz., Timo.j'entretiens une relation avec lui.Le consul Nordling suédois, négocia av Choltitz la libération de 3500 prisonniers politiques, et permit que Paris ne soit pas détruit.Je vais faire en sorte que les descendants des 2 familles dont Timo se rencontrent en Novembre à Cepoy où la famille Nordling possède une maison.
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