Betaflight Filter Settings #1: BLACKBOX EXPLORER | Easy Tuning Method

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Lénorde FPV

Lénorde FPV

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This is an introduction to Betaflight 4.2 filter settings and we will use Blackbox Explorer to tune our FPV quadcopter. If you are a beginner, don't worry! Everything will be explained clearly. This is an easy method to improve your flight performance while making sure everything is safe.
Download Blackbox Explorer : github.com/betaflight/blackbo...
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This series will cover different tools for filter tuning and also different quad sizes, so stay tuned!
Timestamps:
0:00 Introduction
0:21 Why do we need filters?
1:41 Betaflight Filter Settings Tab
3:53 Blackbox Setup and Test Flight
5:01 Open your Log Files
5:32 Setup the Blackbox Explorer
6:27 Analyze the First Test Flight
8:16 Second Test Flight
8:45 End Result
9:58 Conclusion
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Hi, I’m Lénorde and I’m a professional videographer and drone pilot. I would like to share my passion with you, so feel free to leave a comment if you have any question!

Пікірлер: 126
@LenordeFPV
@LenordeFPV 4 жыл бұрын
Hey guys! 😃 What would you want to see next in this series? I can already tell you we will cover more tools and see practical cases too. But your ideas are welcome! 😉
@ritschratsch6473
@ritschratsch6473 3 жыл бұрын
Is there an easy Version of BF with all these Numbers?! just like KISS?!
@LenordeFPV
@LenordeFPV 3 жыл бұрын
@@ritschratsch6473 Not that I know... The sliders are supposed to make it easier, and you just have to "forget" about the numbers. Betaflight is probably working on other ways to make it simpler, since the sliders were only introduced one year ago.
@FoxurFPV
@FoxurFPV 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a Blackbox PID Tuning video! I've always been stuck on PID Tuning strategy.
@LenordeFPV
@LenordeFPV 3 жыл бұрын
@@FoxurFPV I would love to cover PID tuning in the near future. Right now I'm still looking for an approach that could work for any situation. It' very specific to each quad and each pilot. But getting a strong base with Blackbox would probably help a lot of pilots! Definitely on my list. :)
@dapemaes
@dapemaes 3 жыл бұрын
Hi guys, thanks for the video. For me it's so difficult to understand the blackbox graphs, so I suppose it's the same for the rest of the people, at least at the beginning. So It's a big help to us this kind of videos, but deeper please. Keep Going!! Ideas? Could be for example battery performance, for example what elemments help us to improve it. Ummm another one could be Configuration, for example, it's a big mystery what TX/RX, UART and what port I need to use for whatever I need, mixing with smartaudio, VTX config and RSSI signal, analog? not? Telemetry? Rssi channel? WTF Only say thnks for your time and effort to tech us.
@FoxurFPV
@FoxurFPV 3 жыл бұрын
This video is so well made and easy to understand. Even as an advanced pilot I really enjoyed the content. Can't wait for your next one and keep up the awesome content Lenorde! 🔥🔥🔥
@LenordeFPV
@LenordeFPV 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! The future content is in preparation ;)
@MDimosN
@MDimosN 3 жыл бұрын
This is one of the most explained and well made video about this topic, well done mate!
@LenordeFPV
@LenordeFPV 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much 😀😀
@neilfpv
@neilfpv 3 жыл бұрын
I've been watching different pid tuning youtube videos for months and Lénorde FPV's video(above) is where I finally started to understand tuning! Subscribed! Thank you Lénorde!
@LenordeFPV
@LenordeFPV 3 жыл бұрын
Hey! Thanks a lot 😀 I'm happy it was helpful for you 😉
@user-kr3tw6eg5l
@user-kr3tw6eg5l 11 ай бұрын
Thank you so much. You should make more videos. You were the only person who acts explained what the lines are.
@jumpstartfpv
@jumpstartfpv 4 жыл бұрын
Loved it that you have organised it chapter wise. I will follow this with you and tune my quad
@LenordeFPV
@LenordeFPV 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot! I hope it will be helpful for you.
@benmackay5160
@benmackay5160 3 жыл бұрын
These videos are so well done, you got to make more man!
@LenordeFPV
@LenordeFPV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot! Actually, I'm currently editing the next one 😉
@zefixx6659
@zefixx6659 2 жыл бұрын
The video was the best explanation of BF filters, why we need them and what they do! Help me a lot! Thanks Dude!
@LenordeFPV
@LenordeFPV 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much, I'm happy if it helped you!
@muggzzzzz
@muggzzzzz 3 жыл бұрын
Your english is flawless as well as the explanation itself! Thank you for this wonderful tutorial!
@LenordeFPV
@LenordeFPV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the nice feedback 😀
@RebelGoatFPV
@RebelGoatFPV 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You! This is the most understandable and concise filter tuning video I have found. :D
@LenordeFPV
@LenordeFPV 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much 😀
@PeaRSimS
@PeaRSimS 3 жыл бұрын
This is the best video to adjust filtering. Thank you a lot !
@LenordeFPV
@LenordeFPV 3 жыл бұрын
Hey! Thank you very much for your comment 😃
@joeys203
@joeys203 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice and simple, keep it up man!
@LenordeFPV
@LenordeFPV 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot! I hope this helped ;)
@techboss3067
@techboss3067 3 жыл бұрын
Very well explained. Keep going with your videos!
@LenordeFPV
@LenordeFPV 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much 😉
@gogodudu972
@gogodudu972 3 жыл бұрын
Superbe vidéo. J'avais jamais compris ca aussi simplement merci.. j'ai hate de voir l suite sur les PID et Dterm. PS : ton anglais est super compréhensible👍
@LenordeFPV
@LenordeFPV 3 жыл бұрын
Merci beaucoup pour ce retour! 😃 Il y aura encore un peu de contenu sur les filtres avant de s'attaquer au PID qui ont des résultats moins facilement mesurables, donc plus compliqué à décrire en vidéo. Mais je souhaite m'y mettre dès que possible! Et merci aussi pour l'anglais 😉 Les sous-titres en français arriveront bientôt pour permettre à plus de gens de pouvoir comprendre la vidéo :)
@PortalFPV
@PortalFPV 3 жыл бұрын
Your English is very good with quite a heavy accent, but as a bonus, that causes me to focus on what you are saying much better than most other videos. I've tried watching so much on this subject buy start to fizzle out within a couple of minutes. Very clear and concise with good audio and clean video. Kudos to you!
@LenordeFPV
@LenordeFPV 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much 😁 I would still like to work on that accent, but I guess it would require to travel a bit... Thanks again and good luck with your tune !
@AliGreenFPV
@AliGreenFPV 3 жыл бұрын
Great video!! Very organised yet so simple👌
@LenordeFPV
@LenordeFPV 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for your feedback ! 😁
@saharzzz361
@saharzzz361 3 жыл бұрын
Great explanation, thank you very much! Liked and subbed!
@LenordeFPV
@LenordeFPV 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the feedback 😀
@ValleyFPV
@ValleyFPV 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent introduction. We'll explained. Thank you for this video.
@LenordeFPV
@LenordeFPV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks 😀
@haythamfpv
@haythamfpv 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Lénorde! It was Super helpful
@LenordeFPV
@LenordeFPV 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the feedback 😀
@owlboy6677
@owlboy6677 2 жыл бұрын
Mit grossem Abstand die besten Videos! Alles top erklärt! Bitte mach weiter so! Deine Videos sind sehr motivierend und spannend erklärt. Kann man dich irgendwie unterstützen?
@LenordeFPV
@LenordeFPV 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much 😊Subscribing is the best way to support the channel and your comment is very rewarding!
@pradeeplakmal
@pradeeplakmal 2 жыл бұрын
This is the best video about filtering, thank you
@LenordeFPV
@LenordeFPV 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@bkfpv
@bkfpv 3 жыл бұрын
Very informative. Thanks for sharing.
@LenordeFPV
@LenordeFPV 3 жыл бұрын
Hey! Thank you for watching 😉
@hprompt166
@hprompt166 2 жыл бұрын
Hey There, I found your website first, then found the youtube site that's why I removed the first comments thanks again for the great information
@LenordeFPV
@LenordeFPV 2 жыл бұрын
You are welcome 😉
@DriftaholiC
@DriftaholiC 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. This was very helpful!
@LenordeFPV
@LenordeFPV 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much !
@SirCrashaLot
@SirCrashaLot 3 жыл бұрын
very clear vid, well done. I use a trick for years to avoid safe returns with damaged gear: I never have airmode always on. My arm switch is actually 3 position: 0 / arm / arm with airmode. So say I bend a prop to a point where I cannot normally fly and need to cruise back, I step arm to the middle and I do not have to fight airmode. I guess we could make a scenario where BF kills airmode based on the data corresponding to emergency situations. But hey I am doing it for years and I was able to finish two important heats during a race after collisions where airmode tried to sent me to the moon.
@LenordeFPV
@LenordeFPV 3 жыл бұрын
I actually have a dedicated airmode switch too! When I first started FPV, I didn't know if I needed airmode all the time, and since then I still have this switch. It comes in handy sometimes, but I never checked the difference with damaged gear, it's a good idea !
@tianan400
@tianan400 3 жыл бұрын
Very helpful! Thanks man.
@LenordeFPV
@LenordeFPV 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I could help ;)
@konnitquy1610
@konnitquy1610 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Easy understand for newbie. From 🇻🇳
@LenordeFPV
@LenordeFPV 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for your comment 😁
@flywithtb5005
@flywithtb5005 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect tutorial
@LenordeFPV
@LenordeFPV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks 😉
@cazafpv8312
@cazafpv8312 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent et très bien expliqué !
@LenordeFPV
@LenordeFPV 3 жыл бұрын
Merci beaucoup 😀
@foscofiorentin1958
@foscofiorentin1958 2 жыл бұрын
Really good. Thanks
@LenordeFPV
@LenordeFPV 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you ! 😉
@uavtech
@uavtech 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video!
@LenordeFPV
@LenordeFPV 3 жыл бұрын
Coming from you, this comment makes me very happy! :D I hope I didn't say anything wrong in this video.
@KLNYC
@KLNYC 3 жыл бұрын
Till this day I still learning this BB
@albertocagnin2108
@albertocagnin2108 3 жыл бұрын
thank you good explanation!
@LenordeFPV
@LenordeFPV 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching :)
@reapergrim5324
@reapergrim5324 4 жыл бұрын
Nice and easy thank you
@LenordeFPV
@LenordeFPV 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! :D
@ritschratsch6473
@ritschratsch6473 3 жыл бұрын
Give you a Thumbs Up and left an Abo ☺️ Great Video 🤙
@LenordeFPV
@LenordeFPV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks 😀
@ASRChannelGame
@ASRChannelGame 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@LenordeFPV
@LenordeFPV 3 жыл бұрын
And thank you for watching :)
@1Weltfrieden
@1Weltfrieden 2 жыл бұрын
So good explained! Why did you stop making this series? And could you please do a video, where you filter a whole Kwad? like where and why did you set specific filters
@LenordeFPV
@LenordeFPV 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Those videos are actually planned but I've been renovating a house for the past year and I don't have a video studio until it's finished. I will do all those videos as soon as I can 😀
@Thewiruz1
@Thewiruz1 3 жыл бұрын
Nice. When do we see part 2?
@LenordeFPV
@LenordeFPV 3 жыл бұрын
Hi! I know it's been a while, but the second part will come out very soon :)
@GeorgianRaceCars
@GeorgianRaceCars 2 жыл бұрын
good videos. . can you make video about pid tuning via plasma tree or pid analyzer?
@LenordeFPV
@LenordeFPV 2 жыл бұрын
Hi! I would love to do that 😉
@GeorgianRaceCars
@GeorgianRaceCars 2 жыл бұрын
@@LenordeFPV i can not speak english very well but i lissenit you step by step 😁
@felixfpv7872
@felixfpv7872 3 жыл бұрын
Super useful for myself as beginner - when is the more advanced technique video coming out?
@LenordeFPV
@LenordeFPV 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! I'm still working on the next one, I want to make sure the information is clear and precise :)
@felixfpv7872
@felixfpv7872 3 жыл бұрын
@@LenordeFPV Happy to wait for it :) Your blog article on it is also super helpful.
@LenordeFPV
@LenordeFPV 3 жыл бұрын
@@felixfpv7872 Thank you for reading :) The blog article is a bit different because I can't use my video script so I ended up rewriting the whole article.
@techboss3067
@techboss3067 3 жыл бұрын
Could you post a link to this post?
@LenordeFPV
@LenordeFPV 3 жыл бұрын
@@techboss3067 Of course, there you go: lenorde-fpv.com/betaflight-filter-settings-part1 The blog is not really finished, that's why I don't promote it yet.
@Tonynux
@Tonynux 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Lénorde. Thanks for this perfect explanation. If I have a normal BLHeli_S, so no bidirectional dshot, can I even try this filtering procedure? If yes, should I disable RPM Filter before starting?
@LenordeFPV
@LenordeFPV 3 жыл бұрын
Hello! There is a way to enable RPM Filters with BlHeli_S ESC. You will need to use another firmware like "JESC" or "JazzMaverick". I haven't tried this myself, so I advise you to take a look at Joshua Bardwell's video : kzbin.info/www/bejne/hJile319Zdifg5Y And if you prefer flying without RPM filters, you should leave the "Dynamic Notch Filter" at defaults and tune from there. The rest of the video will still apply for you except for the dynamic filter settings.
@Tonynux
@Tonynux 3 жыл бұрын
@@LenordeFPV Thank you very much for your answer!
@LenordeFPV
@LenordeFPV 3 жыл бұрын
@@Tonynux You're welcome :)
@nerdCopter
@nerdCopter 3 жыл бұрын
+1👍 💪
@rolosaenz
@rolosaenz 3 жыл бұрын
Lenorde, i only have BF 4.1.1 as my Matek F4 clone is not supported anymore on BF 4.2.x , i dont see PID D on the custom graph list, what i need to do ?
@LenordeFPV
@LenordeFPV 3 жыл бұрын
Hello! The Betaflight version should not be a problem. All this data is stored no matter what settings you use. Do you see other PID settings in the list ? Or can you see other items missing ?
@rolosaenz
@rolosaenz 3 жыл бұрын
@@LenordeFPV what you mean
@LenordeFPV
@LenordeFPV 3 жыл бұрын
@@rolosaenz Do you have something else in the "custom graph" list ?
@tuttuti123
@tuttuti123 3 жыл бұрын
Weird. My PID D graph have the stick input part of the graph being cut short. Any idea why this happens?
@LenordeFPV
@LenordeFPV 3 жыл бұрын
Hello ! What part is being cut short? Does it happen in the gyro graph too?
@tuttuti123
@tuttuti123 3 жыл бұрын
@@LenordeFPV gyro graphs are fine as in they peak up so much as the beginning frequencies where you are controlling the quad. Same goes with the P term graphs but for some reason the D term graphs for all axis don't have the same spike at the beginning. I think I'm not pushing my quad enough for the test flights so I'm going to test it again tomorrow.
@LenordeFPV
@LenordeFPV 3 жыл бұрын
@@tuttuti123 Feel free to send me some screenshots. If you have any troubles, a lot of great people can help you on the "Betaflight Blackbox Log Review" Facebook group! 😉
@pierangelobertaina1282
@pierangelobertaina1282 2 жыл бұрын
👏👏👏👏👍
@LenordeFPV
@LenordeFPV 2 жыл бұрын
😃
@airrun8739
@airrun8739 3 жыл бұрын
I don't see the debug part. Why is that?
@LenordeFPV
@LenordeFPV 3 жыл бұрын
Hello! If you don't see the debug in Blackbox Explorer, maybe you didn't enable it in Betaflight ? Try to repeat the steps at 4:00 and make sure to hit "save and reboot".
@Zattoo20
@Zattoo20 3 жыл бұрын
we need part 2
@LenordeFPV
@LenordeFPV 3 жыл бұрын
I'm currently recording :D
@Zattoo20
@Zattoo20 3 жыл бұрын
@@LenordeFPV when online ?
@LenordeFPV
@LenordeFPV 3 жыл бұрын
@Zattoo20 As soon as the editing is finished. I hope beginning of next week! ;)
@Zattoo20
@Zattoo20 3 жыл бұрын
@@LenordeFPV Wee need Part 2 NOW :D
@LenordeFPV
@LenordeFPV 3 жыл бұрын
@@Zattoo20 I know I already said it was coming, but I SWEAR I'm working on it every time I can and it is getting closer to the end. Please give me a few more days, and the video will be there ! 😅 Also, I realize that I really need to optimize my workflow. I'm already working on new ways to produce videos faster so you don't have to wait that long again. 😉
@SH-ry2xi
@SH-ry2xi 3 жыл бұрын
So push the sliders all the way to the right, got it.
@LenordeFPV
@LenordeFPV 3 жыл бұрын
But SAFELY, because all quads won't react great to it. If something is wrong, this may cause fly-away. Step by step is the safe way. Blackbox is the trouleshooting tool and double chek tool.
@timmytson1
@timmytson1 2 жыл бұрын
I can't get gyro scaled only gyro
@LenordeFPV
@LenordeFPV 2 жыл бұрын
Hi! Did you set the debug mode in Betaflight's blackbox tab?
@timmytson1
@timmytson1 2 жыл бұрын
@@LenordeFPV I believe so I’ll retrack
@SFPV
@SFPV 3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the video but it doesn't explain what the graphs are showing in relation to what your filters are set at
@LenordeFPV
@LenordeFPV 3 жыл бұрын
Hello! There isn't a proportional relation between your filters and the graphs. Some quads can be noisy and harder to filter properly. The general idea is that if you lower the frequency of the filters, there should be less "green" on the right side of the graph. But you don't want to reduce them because it induces phase delay and a worse behaviour. The graphs gives you a visual indicator of how much noise there is after filtering. We are trying to raise the filters frequency and checking if we see a lot more noise than before or if it's still fine. It is only a matter of trial and error to get to a point where there isn't too much noise. The other indicator, which is even more important, is the motor temperature. A hotter motor means that there is too much noise, and then you can confirm and isolate the problem with Blackbox. This video is only an introduction to the tools used and the method. I still need to create more videos covering the effects of filters in real-life situations, but it takes a lot of time to gather all the useful data with different settings. I have postponed a lot of flight sessions due to bad weather, but I still hope the next videos will come very soon !
@SFPV
@SFPV 2 жыл бұрын
Would be helpful if someone actually explained the graphs and how to set filters based on them. All these videos gloss over this
@LenordeFPV
@LenordeFPV 2 жыл бұрын
Hello! This video is more an introduction about the tools. I would like to continue this series with specific cases to help finding your own settings. The reason why most videos don't tell what settings to use is because it is very hard to come up with one general answer that will work for everyone. I totally understand your demand, and since a lot of people also asked for it, I will try to be more practical in the future 😉
@johnwalter564
@johnwalter564 16 күн бұрын
If yuou have 0 notch filters means you have no filtering
DEFINITELY NOT HAPPENING ON MY WATCH! 😒
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