Betaflight rates suck for FPV! Convert yours to Actual like a BOSS // Bacon's drone tutorials

[@FPVFRASHA]

Here is my Actual rates I use for 5 inch freestyle: Roll: 190 1000 0.60 Pitch: 190 1000 0.60 Yaw 200 650 0.45 I also put my throttle limit% down to 80 after selecting Scale on throttle limit. If I want a smoother throttle for more cinematic type flights ill check what my throttle is while checking in the goggle OSD and just hovering in place before I set anything else in the throttle section, mine is 35 while at a hover so I'll put in throttle mid 40 as I always add about 5 to the hovering number. In throttle expo ill set that to anything around 0.15.

[@StacemanFPV]

Good discussion... Not changing to actual rates but they definitely make more sense. I'm not changing because I have rates that I like, but if I were I would probably switch over. Now for my rates.. Dare you to try them. These are BF rates (rc rate, super rate, Rc expo) Roll: 1.1, 0.52, 0 (458 degrees) Pitch: 1.1, 0.5, 0 (440 degrees) Yaw: 0.7, 0.24, 0 (184 degrees)

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

I will have to give yours a shot sometime on video and tag you in it, lol. I appreciate you stopping by man!

[@kottonfpv2666]

Might try these on my 5 inch cine rig.

[@Badger_FPV]

Thanks for all the help!

[@williamlosch]

Awesome tutorial man. Simple and effective even for a seasoned pilot. I’ve been wanting to convert to actual rates and now I will just in time for my fresh build!

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

I converted mine for a fresh build too! It is the perfect time to do it, and now that I have I won't be using BF rates again for sure. Thank you so much for checking it out!

[@RadBeardFPV]

We just had a conversation about this my guy!! This is perfect!!!

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

seeeeee...its like I read your mind man! lol. It is actually one of the wonderful things about doing what makes me happy with the channel. I get to have those little convos and then it makes me think of an idea about how to make things like this useful for others.

[@RadBeardFPV]

@@BaconNinjaFPV we will speak a lot more bro. Trust me

[@gandaulf_fpv6925]

Bookmarked thank you again! I am really enjoying your channel Mr. Bacon.🙏🏼 Not sure if you're a whoop guy but we are getting to whoopy season. I'd love to see some of your tiny whoop content this winter.

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

You are very welcome!!! I am a whop guy for sure...anything with props really, lol. There will be much whooping in store for those colder days, I promise!

[@FlyZoneFpv]

Great video Bacon. This will definitely help the new comers . ✌️🤙🏻

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

Thank you for checking it out! I always appreciate seeing you here in the comments!

[@hansjohannsen6722]

Nice explanation my guy, whoever ya are. thanks for sharing

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

Thank you, and you are very welcome...even if I am an internet rando, lol :p

[@Just4FunRC]

Nice one Bacon :) yupp converting to Acutal from now on. makes much for sense :D thx buddy have a great weekend

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

Let me know how you like using them! You have a great weekend too my friend!

[@lemonsquareFPV]

Actual IS where it’s at! Here is some samples for y’all… Smoothboi build R/P 400 1200 0.5 Y 200 400 0 IMASquirrel build R/P 120 1200 0.2 Y 120 300 0 BigBoy build R/P 200 800 0.5 Y 100 500 0 I DO have R and P different on some builds I just can’t remember each quads rates, this is just the average starting point before fine tuning. Great job Bacon man!!! 🥓❤ Edit: Actual rates is much easier when you are tuning your rate curves on different quads. I used to fiddle with Betaflight rates but it honestly took forever to get just right. WAY faster with Actual rates, I can keep my max rate constant and just fine tune the acceleration curve.

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

man you running those high max rates bro!!! lol. I will have to give those a shot, and I will probably do a vid where I try a pack on different people's rates for fun. Actual rates make those manipulations so much easier since they are clearly related to degrees per second...unlike those silly old Betaflight rates, lol.

[@lemonsquareFPV]

@@BaconNinjaFPV Yeah man, do it!!! I ran 1600 on half my 5” flights today. I found that that’s my natural rhythm. Previously I never tried over 1200 max rate. But half and quarter rolls become very inconsistent. I still haven’t found the perfect balance. But I guess there isn’t such a thing… my different flying styles and quads require vastly different rates. Your video inspired me. I had tons of fun experimenting today. Thank you.

[@SteadyeddieFPV]

I started off with bf rates of .8, .8, .3 which was 800 deg/sec if I remember right. I do a lot more racing now and adopted the 543 rates .8, .7 with .15 of expo for me. Switched over to actual rates this year using that conversion calculator 👍 I currently run Racing R/P/Y 110, 530, .6 Freestyle R/P 110, 720, .6 Y 110, 530, .6

[@1997Jeep]

This is such an interesting conversation. I recently built a new quad myself & had to convert to actual rates. My rates are R/P/Y 200 800 .64 I have tried reducing my rates in the past, but I haven't felt comfortable flying with lower rates. I'll have to try upping the center sensitivity with actual rates. Changing max rate messes with reflexe moves when getting out of a tight spot.

[@lemonsquareFPV]

@@1997Jeep My current rates on light weight precision builds are similar to what you are running right now. But they are not perfect, that’s just what I’m at currently. Seems like an always evolving thing for me. 🤷‍♂️ RP 290 800 0.52 Y 270 420 0 I have a hard time if my Yaw is the same as Roll and Pitch, I always have it way lower for the precision. Also, if I Yaw too fast my brain can’t keep up, Pitch and Roll I have no issue with being stupid fast.

[@MCsCreations]

Thanks, dude! 😊 If I'm not mistaken I use 700° a second. The rest I really don't remember! 😂 Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

I think 700 degrees per second would be the top end of where I am comfortable too. I really like the 600 because the ends are very predictable...which is important when I am coming out of a move and need to know exactly where I am going to be facing, lol. I always appreciate you bro!

[@jlarson42]

Very informative and helpful video. 👍🤓

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

Thank you! I appreciate you checking it out!

[@DrMacca]

My enduring takeaway is that you cheated on Betaflight rates. You rate hussy. LMAO Fantastic explanation, much appreciated!! 🙏

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

What Betaflight rates doesn't know....won't hurt it ;)

[@jayzzz1234]

Ever tried putting a t-motor F7 proIII HD stack into a Apex 5 inch frame take it from me nightmare with stack screws but it can be done haha 😄

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

lol, I haven't tried it...but I can imagine! Most of the TMotor electronics I have are still F4 boards. I really need to check out some of their newer stuff at some point.

[@deice3]

This reminds me, I need to finish my automated converter. I wrote an app for it to convert my own rates, but ended up forgetting it after I found my optimal rates.

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

lol....I never finished mine either. If you get yours done, let me know and I will share it with a community post so that others can find it :)

[@sunsetpark_fpv]

Awesome , simple explanation. Now I have to go back to your props vid - because there is so much there to digest 😁 LMFAO diet sbang 😂

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

That props vid was a huuuuuuge dump of info for sure, lol. If only diet sbang actually did something to help me lose weight :p

[@sunsetpark_fpv]

@@BaconNinjaFPV 🤣

[@DanielLeeDrones]

I appreciate the explanation! I will try this and let you know.

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

I hope you enjoy using them!

[@brandam4179]

Thanks for this. I have a question about the way your drone flies. Do you PID tune your drones. I like the way your drone has nice movement. Very sharp.

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

You are very welcome! I do tune them slightly. My daily driver really only has a couple of tweaks, and the rest is basically stock betaflight. Most of the sharp movement is really just my stick inputs. It is all about knowing how much input you need to get where you want to go without having to adjust along the way. Makes it easier to just slam the stick where it needs to be without hunting around, and that is what makes it look snappy.

[@MurdersFPV]

Excellent video bro. The moment Actual Rates hit me up late at night I'll consider changing them. #BFR4L

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

lolol, I will let them know you are interested ;)

[@LordFpv]

Xaxa,great intro :)

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

Thank you!!

[@FrancisRuckus]

DIET SBANG 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Bro I love your transparency and your easy to understand plus you always have me laughing I wanna get a BaconNinja shirt soon but only if they come in a size Xtra Sshhmeadium 🤓

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

Lol, it's not quite SBANG but it isn't quite flow so its like SBANG lite :p I will check my shirt supplier and see if I can get an Xtra Sshhmeadium size added, lol

[@FrancisRuckus]

@@BaconNinjaFPV DIET SBANG 😂😁🤓 You let me know I'll get one bro.

[@RebelGoatFPV]

Bacon, you're timing is spooky sometimes, haha. I was researching and testing good sbang pilot rates yesterday. Most of them tend to fly very linear rates with 1000+ degree roll rates, which made me fly twitchy. I settled on some curve hoping it wouldn't slow my growth. These are the actual rates I settled on, but I'm going to try your rates now :) P: 200 800 0.5 R: 200 800 0.5 Y: 210 600 0.3

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

lol, im just gonna let you decide how I know what you are thinking man :p I tried really high rates and didnt like it at all, so I wound up working in the sim to find something I liked and settled on what I have. Let me know how you like them!!! I will give yours a shot at some point too....maybe I will do a video using several people's and see how it goes.

[@RebelGoatFPV]

@@BaconNinjaFPV You've got the Shinning, just don't be reading my mind between 4:00 and 5:00, that's my time! 🤣 If the weather cooperates and time allows Imma try your rates today or in the sim at the very least.

[@gandaulf_fpv6925]

That intro Bacon......😂🤦🏼‍♂

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

lolol, i figured it was appropriate!

[@NickLangMedia]

Big follow after "Diet Sbang" 😂😂

[@apachesmokewoundedsniper]

Great video bro, I’m using actual rates which works great for a dumb ass like me. Stay safe

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

Thank you man, and you arent a dumb ass, lol.

[@Gamebit450]

good video

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

Thank you!!

[@406fpv9]

You didn't make the tool link click able bro.

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

Ahhhhhhh, I copy and pasted but didn't add the first part. Give it another shot!

[@codyblackwelder8682]

I started with actual, not betaflight. All the fc that i bought defaulted to actual

[@slamonfpv]

I'm flying bf rc 2.13 rate 0.00 rc expo 0.50 I cannot get this conversion to work I'm a simple man 🤔

[@WFPV5420]

I had same problem when I tried to convert, I'm running rc 2.10 rate 0.10 and expo 0.50. The link I shared has a different converter that seems accurate, but haven't tried it myself. We'll see.

[@slamonfpv]

@@WFPV5420 ah thanks bro so it's not just me I had more success in bf configerator putting in my Max rate and adjusting from there.

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

I am glad you got it working one way or the other, lol. Not all rate curves convert perfectly for sure. It really all depends on how much you are using RC rate vs super rate in your BF setup. I jumped into the tool with your rates and was able to get the curves to lay on each other, although your dotted lines wont because of the lack of super in your BF rates. I came out to 150 420 0.32 in actual. I wonder how that compares to what you found doing it with a comparison in BF configurator.

[@slamonfpv]

@@BaconNinjaFPV yer that was the only Hassel the curve line was almost right but the centre line was no where near each other thanks for checking it out for me I think those rates you ended up with are the same as what I got too. Thanks

[@Islamic.thoughts132]

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[@MurdersFPV]

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