Beth Moore and Christian Nationalism

[@crimsontidecalvinist6140]

I have found that if Beth Moore is pissed off about something, the right position is to disagree with her. All I have to say is “Beth, go home.”

[@jimmybarnes1386]

Beth M needs to spend some time with Jesus or continue to not.

[@marcyoverby3120]

If she reads her Bible. How does she think like this..SPIRITUAL WARFARE at its best.

[@chaimomma9198]

@@marcyoverby3120 because she privately interprets the word and makes biblical truth to mean more than what it’s saying. She does it very well for women that don’t know scripture. She also sounds passionate and sincere but sincerity is no guarantee for truth.

[@phannybrce]

This quote from your twitter response nailed it (Rules for Big Eva) "Make everything you despise an idol. Make everything you idolize a "gospel issue.""

[@carolanneposey5211]

I had the misfortune to stumble across that Beth Moore tweet/thread. It was disheartening at the very least. Numerous responses by her disciples were blatant untruths and borderline blasphemous. The memes they constructed to say that Jesus Christ is literally leading Trump and his fans to the gates of hell and throwing them in for punishment reflect the bitter fruit of her current teaching. When you veer off the known path of biblical truth to follow your own preconceived notions, error is your destination. This was a sickening experience.

[@lauramckinney9896]

These virtue signaling 'Christians' have become utterly exhausting. Thanks for this, Jon. And your tweets addressing this are fantastic. You should have them stitched on a pillow to sell. 😂

[@macsprinter]

yup

[@bobbyroman6785]

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[@damianpreston3389]

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[@CaliforniaForever]

You're right, Jon, Beth Moore's tweets are not at all helpful. She has no discernment around so-called Trumpism. She's either just misunderstanding or deliberately misleading people.

[@thegreenhornet7749]

@Johnny Cakes Whose cult is she in?

[@jamesgasaway7784]

If only the Big Eva crowd cared 1/10 about abortion as they do about politics we might not have all those dumpsters full of image bearers. Turns out they had the energy all along but saved it for this.

[@leadinged]

Yep. You can judge them by where they put their energy.

[@patriciagrant6687]

2 Thessalonians 2:3 A great falling away. The end times will include a wholesale rejection, of God"s revelation, a further "falling away" of a already fallen world. ( Got Questions) Thank you Jon

[@GigiRocks1969]

P.S. I voted for Trump because he’s against abortion. Period.

[@panchovilla7929]

My question to you! During trumps 4 years in office, Did he stop abortion? No ahh !!You know why ??becouse He Didnt care at all about it.He just care for one thing :him self!nothing else Evangelicals and Catolics are blinded by this Evil man for lying about topics that he knows you will fall for it. He doesnt care!!!!!!

[@tijtij]

You think someone who paid off a porn star seven figures never paid for a abortion from his many flings?

[@tijtij]

@Jeffrey Carlson Trump payed off the porn star so that you wouldn't find out about his affair with the porn star right after his wife gave birth not because she was going to sue him But to my real point, you don't think in all his years and years of philandering he never paid to have a girlfriend get an abortion?

[@kukpaulchoi]

@@panchovilla7929 He has cared about America more than Bush, Clinton, and Obama combined.

[@artscraftsantiquity2185]

Me too. And that’s a reason I continue to pray for him to win the election so he can continue to break down the laws that allow the murder of babies in the womb.

[@kevinharvie9609]

And I always thought our relationship is a personal relationship between the individual and God. How is it that she knows where people's thoughts, feelings and motives are?

[@mikeyonce2323]

You want idolatry? Hating Trump trumps EVERYTHING. How is that for idolatry?

[@CoreyFPiazza]

I love your reasoning. It gives me hope for the Church today. Of course, I live in Oregon. I need as about as much hope as I can get.

[@chaimomma9198]

I’ve been trying to explain that too. You say it better.

[@churchhymnsandpsalms]

Liberal Christianity is not Christianity. It’s another religion.

[@churchhymnsandpsalms]

@@TheCountryMouse Like I said: liberal Christianity is not Christianity. Most of what you just wrote about Trump are lies. He's not a racist. He NEVER condoned white supremacy or Nazis. Trumpism isn't a thing. Conservative Christians chose Trump because he was the lesser of two evils. He's still the lesser of two evils. Christians SHOULD be involved with politics in a country where the people have a say in who is elected.

[@TheMistysFavs]

[@ConversationsThatMatterpodcast]

Should get it within the next week and a half

[@johntobey1558]

You need to come speak in Philly. This is the very area where Evangelicals for Social Action was started by Ron Sider ( Yale University ph.D. Economics) author of Rich Christians in an Age of Hunger.

[@ConversationsThatMatterpodcast]

It’s also where a presidential election was stolen :)

[@johntobey1558]

But the 1 st Congressional District Bucks County voted overwhelmingly for Trump Pence.

[@gregb6469]

Read David Chilton's PRODUCTIVE CHRISTIANS IN AN AGE OF GUILT MANIPULATORS for a great refutation of Sider's book.

[@snowyowl5556]

@@ConversationsThatMatterpodcast how was it stolen?

[@jackuber7358]

How ironic that Ms. Moore accuses conservatives of replacing Christ with Trump when she has replaced Christ with herself.

[@enterthenormie3999]

She muted all comments on her KZbin page. She's digging those bigtech bucks.

[@OkaytoThink]

Conservatives have replaced god with trump. It's obvious.

[@jackuber7358]

@@OkaytoThink Ad hominem and sophomoric, congratulations. What shall you do for an encore.

[@bobpeterson1123]

@@OkaytoThink Not true. Trump goes off into retirement and his hotels... good for him. I'll still be pro-life, pro-peace, pro-free markets, pro-republic, pro-less government, and pro-Jesus. Funny, like the election, its all about Trump and never about his opponent. He was the only choice going against that potato Biden. What is Biden going to do for you?

[@johnlight9959]

Beth Moore thinks she’s a lot more important than she is!

[@MarkADever]

She's completely self-absorbed.

[@theelizabethan1]

Years ago, Beth Moore described a witnessing encounter on an airflight with the male passenger sitting next to her. This cornered passenger responded something to the effect, "Looks like you're determined to do," referring to Moore's persistence in "giving him the Gospel." It revealed, for me, her insensitivity, lack of spiritual discerment, and social blundering. It indicated Moore's agenda was more about "I want to talk, so you get to listen" than an authentic, effective personal evangelism. And in general, Beth Moore's freneticism was not a trait I valued in a reasoned teacher ...

[@earlofbroadst]

David "Drag Queen Story Hour is the Height of Liberty" French has nothing of any value to say.

[@michaelwolfe8888]

Beth Moore is appealing to "fellow" leaders? So, she is declaring herself a leader?

[@tedkijeski339]

well, like it or not, she has become a leader.

[@ConversationsThatMatterpodcast]

Good catch

[@tedkijeski339]

@@ConversationsThatMatterpodcast Thanks.

[@MarkADever]

She always says that stuff in her tweets. She makes sure to promote herself to the top and insert herself into the group of overseers. She's consumed with herself, completely self-absorbed. Look at her Twitter feed, hot garbage and narcegesis about everything.

[@nodramamomma2777]

Beth Moore has a terrible view of the flock and an inflated opinion of herself.

[@nodramamomma2777]

@Johnny Cakes, perhaps we all need more of a humble spirit. Moore holds herself up as a spiritual leader put aside the fact she, as a woman, is going against Scripture; she has to ascribe to a higher set of conduct. There have been many instances President Trump was kind, overly generous empathetic to those he came into contact with; if you want to send me your email, I'd be happy to send you links.

[@nodramamomma2777]

@Johnny Cakes okay, so you don't want to know about the many instances Trump showed compassion and empathy towards others? And you equate anyone that voted for Trump as being in a cult? And you don't know anything about Moore, but because she said something against Trump and the people who voted for him, you now lump all those folks as cultists? Roughly speaking, isn't the definition of a cult follower someone who blindly believes in something with no factual basis?

[@nodramamomma2777]

@Johnny Cakes Okay, I will! Thanks for the enlightening discussion! ;D

[@mikehall4372]

​@Johnny Cakes You sound so childish in your response, and I'm being kind! Beth Moore has been defying the Word of God for several years now. She tours with those who preach and teach blatant apostasy; the prosperity false gospel, the word Faith false gospel to name a couple. She willfully disobeys the instruction of Paul in 1st Timothy 2:12-13. Her exegetical [interpretation] skills are frankly dangerous.

[@mikehall4372]

I did not vote for President Trump in the first election because he had no record to run on, I strongly questioned his politics so I waited to see if he was going to live up to his promises. After a year of watching what he did and not what he said, I saw that he was really going to implement true "conservative" values that represented the average conservative both Christian and non-Christian alike. I cringed when he got on Twitter with some of his comments, but that did not and does not negate what he has done for this nation and its defense. National sovereignty is biblical! Throughout the bible, national sovereignty is clearly seen. Clearly, from the time of Babylon until now that has been the case. In fact, it was during the rebellion of Nimrod attempting to establish a global one-world government t and religion. If you will consider what I just shared with you you will understand that Trump defending "nationalism" is not wrong, and it should not be understood as "Christian Nationalism", a term that "progressive Christians" have created. I don't worship America, my first loyalty is to the LORD Jesus Christ, but I do honor America for what it has done; feeding the world, defending the world from communist tyranny in its many forms. I just do not have endless time to write to you. Below are just a small handful of his accomplishments. Examples: Moving our embassy to Israel, and declaring Jerusalem the capital of Israel. [a very biblical thing to do] His defense of the unborn. Whether or not it is a personal conviction of his or not, he has done everything within his ability to fight against it. [I do think he thinks it is wrong]. Biden and the Democrats will do the opposite. VA reform [What was done to vets over the past 20 years was dispicable] Appointed conservative judges Strengthened the military Removed environmental restrictions to the oil and coal industry. Protected our border from drug cartels, terrorists, and unchecked disease. Until covid, he built the strongest economy in 40 years Let's not forget, he removed FDA restrictions creating a vaccine faster than ever before. These are just a few. But don't let me confuse you with the facts! By the way, by rejecting and fighting against President Trump she has aided and abetted the democrat party, of which Mr. Biden will apparently become the next President. The man who has been known to be a philanderer, full of corruption his entire political career. His son is under investigation for taking money and bribes from the Chi-coms, in which there are documents from Hunter Biden that he passes a percentage to the big guy [His dad]. Senator Biden forced his hand up the dress of one of his interns and forced a digit from his hand 'into her genitalia. I haven't heard from Beth Moore on that. The Democrat Party is the party of socialism/communism, anti-family, anti-law enforcement, anti-second amendment, anti-Christian/church, anti-free enterprise. So when all hell breaks loose in this country she will be one of the many "Leaders" that we will point out if she wants to be equal with the men, she put on her "big boy pants" and take the heat that will certainly come at her, and deservedly so. Beth Moore is showing how biblically unskilled in the Word of God. I look forward to your response! Mike

[@wokewhitefield5941]

Where is Beth Moore's husband?

[@KarinAllison]

Hunting, fishing or shooting skeet. He was never involved in her ministry stuff. I facilitated enough of her studies and read enough of her books back in the day to know this.

[@jackjones3657]

Enjoying all the worldly perks of her "ministry." They have gotten rich off all her terrible doctrine and emotionalism.

[@davidbrock4104]

Spending her money?

[@eternalrealist2836]

Not only was he not involved in her "ministry", he never even went to church with her. This is the sad, old story of a woman without a covering and - like Eve before her - deadly consequences.

[@coachyvonnegrossi]

How is she a Democrat? Is she pro abortion? What about Israel? I thought Southern Baptist were pro Israel. I haven't been a Beth Moore follower for ten years, but this really does surprise me.

[@KarinAllison]

It kind of surprised me too because she's such a "self-respectin' Texas woman" and in one of her older video studies once made a veiled disparaging remark about Bill Clinton with his oval office shenanigans ("have you no respect").

[@toolegittoquit_001]

I think she has only one lukewarm tweet against abortion in her long time on Twitter

[@OkaytoThink]

Nobody is "proabortion". It's a myth. There is choice, and it allows you religious freedom and the rest of us ours.

[@dianesanders5301]

Yes...what happened to her??? I liked her years ago.

[@coachyvonnegrossi]

@@OkaytoThink You're right. I should have said pro murder.

[@caitlin6151]

Just as you said "whatever the government wants", I thought about the Herodians.

[@gregb6469]

A nation's culture is its real religion externalized.

[@brotherjohnreid9473]

Paul loved his “country”, Israel. In fact, he loved it so much he was willing to be cursed for it’s spiritual salvation. Can we not do the same with America?

[@JRRodriguez-nu7po]

Send no money to the SBC or Lottie Moon outreach. Any money you send will be used against the real Gospel. Sending to Jon and the few faithful pastors left is good. Personally I am spending my disposable income on peanut butter and a rental on a large backhoe to bury said peanut butter (that's only half a joke).

[@fandude7]

"I don't know what she's talking about given the grammar of the English language." 🤣 love your program. Moore is unclear. Not a deep thinker, nor speaker.

[@CLJorgie]

Just ordered your book!

[@georgefredericks2699]

The Bible addresses the need for a vision and ordered direction in our lives as a Christian, but I also have seen those with a wrong vision and direction end in a bad way, and if the individual with a wrong or heretical direction have the ears of others they effect others in a very negative way. We need to pray for Beth Moore and many who support her. I have heard many of the youtube broadcast from Conversations that Matter and I hear a young man who does show Christian care and understanding.

[@KarinAllison]

Idolatry is a nebulous charge but also a serious one. I say nebulous because only you can know whether you've turned something into an idol. Caring a lot about something or someone isn't idolatry. It's when it takes the place of God. If you want to identify that in others, you need to cite proof and intimately know the person. That's not the case when an evangelical celebrity speaks about Trump voters. I know cause I am among them. One might even go so far as to say that if at this moment in time you're actively seeking to undermine American loyalty to one's own country, you must be an ally to China. Because trust me: slavish devotion and a spirit of collectivism is expected by THAT government.

[@benjaminguerrerojr310]

WOW you said a lot thank you for your insight. Will continue to listen to your podcast. Looking for truth.

[@patrickbarrett3086]

I am new to this mans contributions to the kingdom ,I am encouraged by his wisdom for a young man . young Christians like this give me great hope for the future of the Church. I will need think about this discussion and let it sink in so I can put this info to work,but The first thought that comes to mind about these" Progressive Evangelicals" is how soon before they want to remove Matt 28 and the great commission to make disciples of all nations. I would not be surprised to find some of them ashamed of this command , after all how dare we .

[@KarinAllison]

Jon there's no harm in running more than one video in the same day :)

[@libertybellbill4439]

Agree Karin Hit It And Quit It 20 MInutes To Make Your Point

[@marymack1]

Could Moore-ism be idolatry?

[@scottbaldridge6148]

John, I wanted to ask you an honest question: Do you believe that Bankers and the Merchants should run the country,or and all Business? Or that that more people should be involved in the life of the country? Thanks

[@cavalier973]

It is a good time, I think, for everyone to re-read the Letter of James, and study it. There is much in James that is applicable to this situation, both encouragement and admonition, for both sides of this conflict between Bible Believers and BigEva.

[@marymack1]

Really can't go wrong studying God's Word. That's leagues more beneficial than reading any "Christian book."

[@ravissary79]

"We need no Cyrus" My Bible indicates they did, and the path God chose to use to get here definitely providential gave us Cyrus, and Cyrus was definitely God's man used to restore Israel. Cyrus is a great metaphor because he's no idol, no spiritual leader, flawed, apparently pagan, but he had the fair mindedness and belief in justice in order to see the value in supporting God's people... just like Trump.

[@bobpeterson1123]

Good point. Perhaps God raised up Trump (or any President) for such a task as he was given.

[@LifeandLifeMoreAbundantly]

Great video. Want to ask if you can look at the camera more, would help me to focus on what you’re saying🙏🏼

[@lookingforlightandhope2191]

We need to stop looking at her tweet and stop listening to her. She should not say anything or teach anything to church. She is breaking all the commend God says not to do so.

[@MarkADever]

Is John Lewis the senator from Georgia you were referring to and couldn't recall? The John Lewis bridge that was memed was so accurate.

[@ConversationsThatMatterpodcast]

Yes

[@kitsonline3244]

Hi John, so enjoy your channel 👍 Where would be the best place to order your book that ships to South Africa?

[@ConversationsThatMatterpodcast]

Amazon

[@mchristr]

Someone's value system will prevail in a given society. Why wouldn't Christians advocate for biblical standards? Abdication centers around the fallacy of secular "values" as neutral and therefore the default position. No one is ethically neutral.

[@kathykardashian7750]

What was really funny at the Jericho March was when the Catholics prayed to Mary and Eric Metaxas said something like. "I don't think we believe in that, but we all believe in Jesus, except....Oh, we all believe in God.... It was hysterical. There were Jews, Catholics and Christians. Too funny.

[@petroswheels]

Isn't Denny Burk a character that William Shatner plays on TV?

[@noxvenit]

Denny Crane.

[@algermom1]

I thought Scripture said GOD judges the heart...not Beth Moore. Isn't her statement just a bit of a "power grab""? Such treatment., among other things, that Jesus condemned the Pharisees for? I've been a conservative in many ways since I was 12 years old. Seen a lot over the years...and came to Christ decades ago, and (imperfectly) followed Hiim since. I've "never in my life" seen such quickly growing vicious Pharisaical judgemental divisive hatred shown forth within and outside the identified Body of Christ over the tenure of a an American elected pair of human beings no more powerful in and of themselves than any one of us, save for influence through various sources, and a contested election 4 years ago.. And I'm only 3 years older than Mrs. Moore. Jesus is God alone;, no human deserves worship, literal or cultural, or elevation to an "ism" to be castigated or worshipped. Thanks for your work; I appreciate it. And please forgive the rant.

[@MWBowen403]

I can't read some of the screenshots you present.

[@Seiskid]

Great commentary. Really appreciate how well you explain this.

[@GigiRocks1969]

FYI: not a troll; just a Christian trying to believe the best in people. Thank you for your replies.

[@superjam18]

If you pay attention to people in the woke church movement, what are your opinions on Pastor Damon Richardsons past few Facebook posts regarding his criticisms of Conservative Christianity?

[@mary-xk9dc]

we should never put up with not voting for truth and freedom, but not make anyone more then God .

[@jeffr196]

Good job Jon.

[@buckshot6481]

The charlatan has been purged from this household. 🧙‍♀️🧹🤮

[@salisburys7558]

Brevity!!! I would watch many more of your videos if they were shorter! I love what you're doing and support your efforts. I just don't have an hour to watch

[@alberthaust4542]

If you open your heart and mind to God's love and wisdom, you'll find that you don't need to become reliant on preachers that might lead you astray. If you are afraid to question what your preacher says, you might have a problem.

[@donaldfields564]

This tunnel vision regarding prolife and so called morality issues. It also preys upon the ignorant. There are more than 2 planks on any platform. Let’s grow up

[@eurekahope5310]

Because nothing says evil like a president who doesn't get in pointless wars, advocates for ending abortion, encouraged domestic growth, and stands against men invading women/girl's spaces and sports... Right, Beth...

[@Jay_Em10]

Are all critics of Christian nationalism and trump worship, necessarily progressive? I don't understand the correlation. I've been a life long conservative and I agree with Beth Moore.

[@donaldfields564]

Kingdom principles as outlined scripturally is not forced utopia. (By the by it should be indigenous peoples day as opposed to Christopher Columbus Day)

[@t5aylor]

I wish you would all go back to scripture and get out of politics. Trump has done that to you, and that's Trumpism

[@lornaz1975]

Anyone want to guess what Bible he has on his desk?

[@cavalier973]

Jesus is flesh and blood, and we worship Him. People who say that Jesus is not flesh and blood are not of God.

[@retrograd332]

1 John

[@donaldfields564]

The divide is righteousness v unrighteousness. That always has and will be the metric or standard for Christian evaluation especially regarding Trumpism which you feign ignorance of....

[@willIV9962]

Look up Dr. John Wilsey church history prof @ SBTS.

[@TheKlh54]

Sounds like a hippie commune!

[@jerryhenson6892]

All these evangelicals complaining about Christian nationalism. . .would they prefer Atheistic nationalism? Aren't Christians supposed to disciple all nations?

[@jerryhenson6892]

Maybe they would say they are opposed to the nationalism part. . .but having multiple nations is part of God's creation. . .God made all nations from one man (Acts 17). God does intend for all nations to be gathered together, but under His Son, not under some globalist agenda.

[@johnlavender242]

It seems nutz to me that Beth Moore garners so much attention. She is obviously off the rails.

[@qianashaw8167]

It was Senator John Lewis.

[@qianashaw8167]

Correction, he was a Congressman, not a Senator.

[@marymack1]

Perhaps this is deflection or projection...

[@erinmomen6175]

Dear young sir. The operative word for this is "idolatry!" He "is" as narcissistic as any human being! I thought Beth Moore was conservative, but I'll take your word that she isn't, myself s'what left. I won't deny that The Lord Set him in office, & could again. Yet as long as he seems to worship himself, I w/not vote for him. I voted for another "R" last time.

[@williammumley1785]

Most of this guys comments are vague and meandering.

[@damarafriederich9190]

I really have nothing nice or kind to say about Beth Moore right now. My observation is that God is truly doing a new thing in setting the captive free and it’s not through these Evangelical Christian leaders, as it is clear she and others are at a complete loss to understand “we the people” are done with a weekly dose of neutered gospel. We are ready for a real Kingdom conversation, knowing all nations are going to bow to a Jewish Messiah.

[@GigiRocks1969]

If you haven’t already, perhaps you should try talking directly with Beth Moore.....it would seem to be the more loving and Christ~like thing to do instead of speculating. Maybe an Elephant Room type venue? Blessings to you.

[@jackjones3657]

He has tried. Many sound Bible teachers have reached out to Moore to address her very alarming teachings and claims of direct revelations. She has roundly blocked them on social media and refused to respond.

[@theelizabethan1]

Years ago, Beth Moore described a witnessing encounter on an airflight where a conversation was struck up with a businessman sitting next to her. The cornered passenger responded something to the effect, "It looks like you're determined to anyway," referring to Beth's verbal persistence in "giving him the Gospel." Such insensitivity and social blundering convinced me Mrs. Moore not so much concerned with insightful evangelism, as her own barreling, steamroller agenda of "I want to talk, so you listen to me." Her freneticism was not a trait I valued in a reasoned teacher....

[@mktay2067]

Read Michelle Lesley’s website about Beth Moore. Many have tried and she refuses to listen. Over and over and doubles down and throws anger back. It’s not good at all.

[@GigiRocks1969]

Thank you for the insight. Was just checking.

[@janetfox-petersen2790]

Can’t even engage even slightly there maybe something to learn from Beth Moore? Can’t tell the difference between your faith & your conservative politics. See no humility. Ugh to this & all the comments.

[@toolegittoquit_001]

Just maybe Evangelicalism isn’t all that great ?

[@stephen5410]

Beth Moore is right. Trumpism is not biblical. It left love grace and mercy by the wayside. That directly contradicts the Bible. Not left or right. Just truth. Both sides will face a terrible judgement Mathew 7 if your life does not revolve around service and love. Gods words not mine. Lies and violence is not condoned by Jesus. It does not honor him in any way.

[@stephen5410]

@Sue Ling you are right. Paul saul alot about that. Thats why he says to speak the truth in love. Trumpism makes ppl uncomfortable bc the term stands for believe in lies, violence and ideological war in the name of Jesus. Sin is never just accepted. But that is still found nowhere in the Bible. The only ppl Jesus was ever harsh with was religious leaders and politicians and ppl using God for there own ends. Like trump and his followers use God to excuse the in excusable. I watch the rallies Republicans act no better than antifa. But they praise Jesus the whole time, you don't see anything wrong with that? Again Mathew 7

[@enterthenormie3999]

She's a grifter. Nothing more.

[@donaldfields564]

He is being deliberately obtuse in his feigned confusion regarding her intent

[@kimjuarez8688]

What was her intent?

[@natscat210]

I know plenty of people here in KY who are evangelicals that behave exactly like Trump is seated at the right hand of God. In my family there are several. These people vehemently oppose and attack anyone who criticizes Trump. They themselves find no faults in Trump. They believe he is a devoted and humble Christian. They believe he was divinely seated by God and that he’s a modern day King Cyrus. They are utterly devoted. They believe Trump is their salvation. They will attack (on Trump’s behalf) their own children who have a different view. Many subscribe to the most extremist far right media figures like Alex Jones as well. They buy every conspiracy theory. They accuse people who oppose their devotion to Trump as following the satanic left. They spread unfounded conspiracies about the Biden’s and they take no issue with making despicable accusations without evidence such as saying Joe Biden is a child molester. Donald Trump does represent much of the worst that Christians could subscribe to in this present day. Those who have His narcissism considers no one beyond himself and his direct family (and sometimes not even them), he is totally devoid of empathy, he is a liar, he is a bigot, a sexist, he celebrates violence, he defrauds people routinely, and he’s a racist. You talk about posturing? From my perspective, watching your channel for the first time...you appeared to be disparaging Beth Moore and manufacturing her intent as if you have an inside view of her head...as well as doing a whole lot of playing dumb in an effort to invalidate what she wrote. Almost like gaslighting someone who doesn’t agree with you just by pretending you don’t understand. This is just my objective perspective.

[@bobpeterson1123]

Well, now Kentucky is safe with Biden.

[@nicolemonroe7836]

I live in Texas and i totally understand what she is saying, Trump and his actions are very dangerous and most Christians dont want to admit it

[@AnimalFarm341]

I didn’t vote for president but I’m curious what actions you consider dangerous.

[@bobpeterson1123]

I live in Texas too. I haven't seen the big danger you speak of. Vague and conspiratorial, as usual.

[@lovematters7122]

Simple. Replace Trump"s words and action with what Jesus would say and do and you will see what Beth is saying.

[@ConversationsThatMatterpodcast]

When he said you are of your father the devil and overturned tables or. . . . . . .

[@lovematters7122]

@@ConversationsThatMatterpodcast 4 For the god of this world has blinded the unbelievers’ minds [that they should not discern the truth], preventing them from seeing the illuminating light of the Gospel of the glory of Christ (the Messiah), Who is the Image and Likeness of God. (2 Corinthians 4)

[@hesavedawretchlikeme6902]

Beth Moore is a "progressive" Christian. Just as the term means, a social justice amenable shape shifter who adheres to the popular trendy type of belief. A fundamentalist can be described as: It is like if one believes in the original intent of the US Constitution and that it needs no change because it stands on irrefutable precedents. It is immutable, and this is the way the Bible is viewed as well. (Malachai 3:6, Hebrews 13:8 for ref.) But the progressive; aka evolutionary socialist feels that the document should change with modern/contemporary trends, times have changed, God expects us to alter and change with it, to be more tolerate, loving and accepting regardless of what scriptures say. However, does God change? Does this coincide with the biblical view from Genesis to Revelation?