Beth Thomas Interview (Child of Rage) Age 32

Child of Rage star, Beth Thomas, interviewed age 32.
She talks about overcoming Reactive Attachment Disorder (RAD), her past, and who she is today.
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Beth Thomas Interview (Child of Rage) Age 32
Beth Thomas Interview
(Child of Rage) Age 32

[@Sam-zu5mr]

She was never an evil kid- just an abused one, who has overcome it and not let it define her soul negatively. I like this woman. Shes an inspiration.

[@stirlitz8156]

That's right. And she has never been a psychopath, she was just an angry, confused child with full of fear.

[@hannahamerson7646]

My exact thought.

[@talkingdoc]

She was evil. Actually her behavior and emotional disposition, as well as intention to hurt, torture and kill was the very definition of evil; morally reprehensible, bad character and conduct, causing harm, discomfort, injury, destruction. There is no doubt. Beth’s RAD was untangled and she learned empathy, morality, compassion for herself and others. It’s absolutely fascinating. And if there is hope for Beth (who clearly isn’t “evil” today) with the right care and education, dedicated clinicians and understanding there is hope for all of us. I do agree the word “evil” is an uncomfortable one. So if “psychopathy” sits easier we can use that term. Beth was in fact, and admittedly a psychopath as a child.

[@ikon9346]

She WAS evil. But she isn't now. She is proof that someone can become better. Bit she WAS EVIL. I get her abuse. But does that excuse her actions? If my sister hurt me when I was a kid,.. I'd still forgive her but it would take forever to forgive her...

[@bubblegumgoth4948]

Agreed

[@umelsaahmed625]

What a great human being. She could have turned into a monster. Kudos to those who never gave up on her.

[@smedleybutler8787]

We all could!

[@dannyboy4929]

@@smedleybutler8787 ok not all of us are abused to that degree and try to kill everyone at just 5-6 years old

[@emmaphilo4049]

It bothers me she is called an 'evil child' when she was a hurt child who needed intense and positive socialization outside the family unit and away from her baby brother. Most kids can revover, and even adults, but chances to do that are not always available. Beth is a very good speaker. She already was as a child. Intelligent woman with special potential.

[@thesecretthemagic28daychal66]

Did you watch her interview as a child? I thought she was going to murder me through the screen. She killed animals. She got catch trying to murder her brother, or would have succeeded. Hid knifes to murder her adoptive parents. He shoved things in her little borthers anus and tried to rip his P off several times. He literally had no emotions and a desire to kill people. Did the Christian Inpatient Counseling for child murders cure her, or is she the real life Dexter faking her emotions?!

[@meranyleuraq6128]

Interviewer was horrible. Beth I am proud of you for becoming the person you are now, and how you overcame your past the way you did.

[@hadleyhenrikson7058]

The way Beth dealt with this lousy interviewer was extremely impressive, I’m so proud of how empathetic Beth has become! I hope she gets a chance to be interviewed with someone with knowledgeable.

[@GABRIELLA3254]

Me too, would love to see a proper interview with her

[@feelincrispy7053]

This girl only got better because of her new family and the therapist. They deserve as much praise as this girl herself if you ask me. Imagine if she went to a ‘bad’ foster home which unfortunately many troubled kids go. Good luck to Beth for the rest of her life

[@amandaquest105]

So true :)

[@kaylaleave]

Yup

[@Kristin.Lyn-LineDance]

This interviewer is painfully awkward and making me uncomfortable. But Beth did an extraordinary job handling this interview and it is so heartwarming to hear where she is now and how she is working towards helping others that have been abused so that they can heal and move forward with their lives.

[@marylclc1269]

I agree. The interviewer seems tone deaf to what not only Beth had been though, but to the entire psychological sphere of Reactive Attachment Disorder. I'm cringing waiting for her to ask Beth more embarrassing questions and I'm barely half way through. Why would she ask Beth how she acts in "violent situations?" That's a terrible question to ask someone who has been through many of the things she has been through. I had no idea that the minister and his wife took her from the home where she was healing. I originally thought. while watching the documentary, that a strict religious upbringing would be terrible for children who had been abused in the ways Beth and Jonathan had been. To find out Beth was taken from the woman who was guiding her through her healing by her 2nd set of parents and hidden away in a group home is horrible. It is also frightening to think that there were 7 or 8 children in Beth's original "home" (if you can call it that) where she was neglected and abused. The sperm donor who abused her must have hurt the other children in the home. I wonder where they are and how they are doing? It is all so sad. The actions of one person can ruin a child almost to the point of not being fixable. (People Beth mentioned like Ted Bundy and other psychopaths.) I'm glad Beth is doing well now.

[@christinaaa_xo]

WHEW! This interviewer is horrible! She is completely unprepared, rambling on, and asking irrelevant questions. Thankfully Beth is well-spoken and intelligent, therefore able to help guide the interview. I would love to see Beth interviewed by a legitimate and prepared source. This story is incredible for a multitude of reasons. I'm glad to hear Beth is doing so well.

[@Meee5635]

She’s not evil…she was hurt…I hope people with not true words ( scientifically), doesn’t hurt her more. I wish her best of luck👍

[@katyar20]

I came here after watching the documentary child of rage and I'm so glad I did! Lifted my heart to know she's now such a happy, healthy, compassionate and intelligent woman! How amazing 👏

[@sandraadames9534]

I'm glad she got the help she needed She was never evil ,she was broken by horrible person that was her parent How many children go through those horrible situation and hope they get help like that like beth God bless her and to all children in the world like beth

[@amandaquest105]

Yes!!!

[@LoveGuitars1017]

This interview is supposed to be about Beth and her experience with RAD. Why is this interviewer asking politically pointed questions? That was so out of left field and unnecessary.

[@MrMamanDon]

May God bless her for all things this poor soul suffered at young age. What she's become now is indeed inspiring. I wish the very best to her.

[@JennyTheFrog]

Prisons are full of grown up children just like Beth, only they didn't get the right help when they were young like she did. And sadly, once they stop looking cute, people have no more sympathy or understanding anymore.

[@lifechariot]

Jenny The Frog -- It's so true. As we get older, there is also less chance we will attach to someone we admire and take on their secure personality.

[@r.a9876]

Yea and i think the adoption department needs to provide help and therapy services before and after adoption for all children and especially the severely abused. But instead they want to just get rid them to the unsuspecting parents as soon as possible. In Beth’s case they told her parents she and her brother are normal 😕

[@kellijostanley6308]

You are so right

[@Ferenc2090]

The female interviewer, Sophia, is the worst one I ever ever heard. She, the interviewer, displayed an aggressive-passive attitude. I celebrate this girl, a woman now, is looking forward and helping other children, hope she will keep strong and happy.

[@samwallaceart288]

The interviewer asks the types of questions my mom would ask. We don't talk much.

[@AmericanAmy]

Beth is trying to stop the abuse before it starts by helping the parent heal before the child gets mistreated. Glad she is well now. ❤️🙏

[@ashleyb119]

This woman was never evil, just horrifically abused, sad the way the media deemed her "evil". Amazing how she changed for the better and is now helping others....I hope she's happy in life....I hope her brother is happy and living a good life, I feel for him too... how could someone have kids to just abuse and neglect, it makes me so angry 😢

[@SwipaXNoXSwipen]

She stuck pins in her younger than 2 year old brother at the age of 6. Sure she's better now, but that doesn't take away the fact that at that young age she wanted to murder her entire family. Abused or not, that's not redeemable in my eyes. Her birth mother died when she was 1 and got adopted with her brother at age 6.. And RAD is no excuse to want to murder your family and harm your brother. She's messed up but glad she can get around not killing anyone.(yet)

[@BlowinFree]

@@SwipaXNoXSwipen I agree with all you say. Never would allow within 10 miles of my family and pets

[@Rosahonung]

To be fair! all 6 year olds are evil!

[@jepe4537]

I definitely see your point. Social trust is a very hard thing to earn sometimes virtually impossible for criminals. But in this case, a criminal who didn’t even make it to adolescence and improved over the span of 20/30 years to the point of becoming a respected nurse. I think seeing someone like this lead a good life decades after a bad childhood is more than enough to earn back that trust in my eyes. I don’t believe Beth is the evil person she was as a child anymore. She is an example for anyone battling really messed up pasts imo to a very extreme degree. I hope she believes wholeheartedly as well that she is a good person now who was able to escape a seemingly sealed fate into evil.

[@lifechariot]

Ashley Brown -- Jonathan has given no public statements or interviews that I have found. It is presumed that he doesn't want to be continually contacted by people who are interested in knowing how he feels about being abused by his sister. That said: Jonathan would have been less traumatised than Beth from differing experiences with their biological father. Beth’s abuse of Jonathan would also have been far less traumatic. He would have been in a good position to fully recover with minimal problems. The following reasons, given by Attachment Theory evidenced research, shows very clearly why this would be the case. Both Jonathan and Beth lost their Mother who died shortly after giving birth to Jonathan. As Beth was around 1-years-old, this would have been deeply traumatic for her. Beth had already formed a healthy and strong attachment to her mother. Any prolonged separation from an established primary caregiver at this age leads to maternal deprivation which has very severe consequence for mental and emotional development of the child involved, yet Beth’s separation from her mother was not just for a prolonged period - it was sudden and permanent. This means Beth would have suffered the most severe trauma of the worst form of maternal deprivation. Jonathan had not established a primary caregiver attachment to his mother or anyone at this point, so his loss was considerably less traumatic. Jonathan was neglected by his father. Left for hours by himself in the first months of life, he was given little if any stimulation and care for perhaps days on end. Beth was neglected in the same fashion as Jonathan, only she was abused as well. It is thought that when the birth father came home drunk at night, he would sexually assault Beth. She continued to have reoccurring nightmares of “a man falling on her with a part of himself”. So whereas Jonathan was neglected, Beth was neglected and abused. Abuse from a primary caregiver happens to be the worst type of abuse that a child can receive. A child is naturally and genetically driven to trust and bond with their primary caregiver. Whenever they feel fear, babies and toddlers enter a highly stressed state where Cortisol levels rise rapidly. If left in this state, they enter a fear induced state which immediately shuts off exploration and play behaviours; they cannot process things normally and fixate of the feared thing. Naturally and instinctively such children seek the comfort of their primary caregiver to sooth, calm and reassure them of safety. Science has shown that contact-comfort creates potent anti-stress hormones which brings terrified toddles back into a calm state of balance within a matter of minutes. Nevertheless, if the primary caregiver becomes the source of the treat to their baby or toddler, the child enters into an “irresolvable paradox” where they instinctively want to flee from the source of the treat and to their primary caregiver. As the primary caregiver is the source of the treat, psychological paralysis and disassociation begins. Children who become fearful and terrified of their primary caregiver are evidenced as developing dissociative disorders in their late teen years. In Summary of the biological father effects on each child: Jonathan was severely neglected. Beth suffered the most severe form of maternal deprivation, severe neglect, and the most severe form of abuse all at the same time for a continued period. Beth’s abuse on Jonathan was less traumatic for two major reasons. The person who is giving the abuse matters massively. If it’s a primary caregiver who abuses their child, the effects are absolutely devastating, and the child is left in a fixated, dissociating state without contact-comfort. As Jonathan was abused by his sister while his primary and secondary caregivers were nearby, and he was immediately comforted after the abuse by them, he would have been brought back into a balanced, non-fixated state, in minutes. His trauma would have been minimal. Research shows if children receive contact-comfort after being distressed, they continue to develop secure personalities. They are not left in the high Cortisol highly anxious - stress induced - fixated state.

[@quazimado8484]

The interviewer kept trying to ask Beth if she was still a psychopath, and Beth changed the topic to talk about other issues. Whether her intentions were to vindicate herself or to save the interviewer's face, I'm not sure, but Beth surely has the ability to discern situations clearly and not take offense easily. I think it's really awesome that she didn't let her trauma overcome her and decided to dedicate her life to advocate for others.

[@archygirl1750]

I am so glad Beth got the help and love she needed. She was a victim of horrific abuse. All best wishes to this woman.

[@VS-xv9hc]

It's a good comment if it's true but to tell me that without a doubt this woman recovered for real defies logic because how we can be sure if she it's not just pretending? May she just become more skilled in lies. A better manipulator! Sorry but I would be afraid this person near people who can not talk or defend selves. Iam against that she work as a nurse based in her past tortured her brother and animals. So the evil pray in the innocents and usually evil can even look innocent and charming. Wolf in sheep's clothing!

[@joecraven2712]

Does he say “Child of rage star”? What a poor choice of words

[@lifechariot]

Joe Craven -- Yes. A guiding star.

[@crystalh.8575]

We need a Ted Talk of Beth Thomas.

[@emmaphilo4049]

Maybe she can't be bothered.... She needs to be left alone, after being called an 'evil' child all over the Internet.

[@spike16965]

I don't see her as evil, she was an extremely abused child, and her way of dealing with it as well trust issues is what helped caused RAD. Sad children are subjected to this type of abuse daily

[@hannahrosa5485]

I don't know if I had RAD. I was tortured and chronically traumatized by my father and neglected by my mother. I had empathy and I think it manifested because I was dissociative. About lashing out and being cruel, I was not because I was so terrified. I barely talked and school was terrifying. You can't harm anyone if you cannot move or speak. Therapy helped me to see what happened to me. I'm still healing. I am a Christian and a social worker. God enabled me to be supportive of others who have experienced much the same. Glad you are well Beth.

[@lolliedean1543]

May God continue to bless you...I was truly wishing that God was given more of the glory, because He WAS a large part of her growth, according to the video...thank you for sharing

[@4percspls315]

right they failed to mention that she would pinch her 7 month old brother penis.. , self -injurious and masterbating in public...and confession of wanting to kill her brother who nothing to do with her SA

[@samwallaceart288]

I think personality type might be a factor. Some types respond to stress with sadness and only realize their anger after time to process, other types respond with anger and only realize their sadness after time.

[@amaliagrassi6870]

The interviewer sounds either like she needs a good sleep or has no clue how to really conduct an interview. Beth is being very gracious in leading the discussion. May she continue to live in peace and in happiness.

[@madamb1977]

I was thinking the same thing. This interviewer was asking some things that have nothing to do with this condition or Beth's life and recovery. Beth showed a lot of patience and grace in her responses.

[@amaliagrassi6870]

@@madamb1977 Exactly right!

[@shamantank]

Interviewer sucked

[@sahibvirk]

Beth Thomas wherever you are. I can observe that you have healed through your voice and words. A lots of love for you from a Human in India. You will be an inspiration for a lots of people. ❤

[@skeletonguts313]

I watched the old tapes of her with my mother. She said she would've "written her off" as in, as she was watching, she believed there was no helping her. That kind of hit me hard because i believed there was a chance to save her and that she deserved a chance. Fhat she was just a little girl and thank god this had a happy ending. Thank god those adoptive parent got her the help she needed. Im so glad she was able to be saved. The duality of humanity. It was our cruelty manifest that damaged her so badly, but it was our compassion that saved her. I cant really explain how it makes me feel,. I just know it makes me feel happy and hopeful, that there is hope for the damaged, lost and forgotten.

[@joezagame5598]

Beth’s healing gives me hope. Thank you, Beth, and may God bless you.

[@Useryuuihdaeg]

I’m so happy she is doing better she was never a evil child she’s was a abused child thank god she and her family are well 🙏🏼

[@ltopomcfly5583]

To weirdos saying she's a psycho and couldn't recover, she healed as a small child. Her brain was still developing. Its adults or older children who can't fully recover.

[@anonymouspononymous9078]

I'm happy that she is at this stage now. I just watched her interview as a child and one thing she said stuck out for me: "I have been hurt a lot and I don't wanna be around people". It tugged at my heart throughout the entire interview but I was glad she made progress at the end

[@wespaul9345]

I'm very happy for you Ms. Beth. You are a triumph of the true human spirit. God bless.

[@lolliedean1543]

Why is this interviewer asking a survivor of child sexual assault about the tragedies of the world?? She's not an expert on those things...God love her for doing her best to give good answers, but that was my exit question.

[@micahsalas8963]

😂😂 found that funny. Its even more funny how she just answers the questions so calmly but im sure in her mind she was probably like "wtf is this B asking"😂

[@XxMaddieMalicexX]

You can tell how open and emotional Beth is in her voice. Poor woman. I am so glad she sought mental help and encourages others to do so. Her story is so heartbreaking.

[@rossbrough2713]

Sounds like Beth has turned onto a well grounded and articulate woman.. it is nice to know that the treatment helped her heal.. it has to be remembered that the issues were never Beth's , they always belonged to the abusive Father, he past them on to an empty vessel ( as all children are ) .. peace and positivity to Beth.

[@cruzlozano]

came here wondering if beth would sound sincere. she does. bless her and EMDR and all the things that have helped her heal from this broken world. wish her all the absolute best.

[@stealth48nurse]

Please don't let the negative comments of some detract from the powerful testimony of Beth's story of transformation. Yes, the interviewer may not be as experienced and it may irritate some. But listen to Beth and learn from her life's journey. After watching the documentary when Beth was a child I wanted to find out how she was doing as an adult. I am so glad I found this. What a testimony she has of healing and continual healing. Now she brings healing from trauma into her profession. I see humility, and a desire to help others.

[@higurashianduminekoconnect1702]

It's literally impossible for somebody to detract based on someone's comment we have to give them power over us to make that happen. I'm definitely not giving them the power because I know she had truly changed and I know she's sincere. So her testimony is still powerful.

[@dianap5504]

Beth’s story is extremely heart-wrenching, yet inspirational. She and her little brother Jon went through absolute HELL at the hands of their bio “father.” Beth was severely sexually abused from the age of 12-18 months, as you probably know. So sickening. They were both left to fend for themselves most of the time, and her baby brother was left laying on his back in his crib in a dirty diaper for hours on end, and ended up with a flat skull on the back of his head from constantly being in that position. CPS said he didn’t know how to roll over or lift his head at a point when he should have already gained that strength. It’s absolutely horrifying. As we know, Beth went on to live a life that was as normal as anyone could have possibly hoped for, and I am so happy for her. She is a celebrated neo-natal nurse in Flagstaff, AZ, and received the modern-day Florence Nightingale Award. She also does charity work for organizations such as Big Brothers and Big Sisters. Just…wow. Unfortunately, I heard that things didn’t turn out that way for Jon. He is apparently in prison for child-trafficking. Not that I am blaming Beth, but after all of the severe neglect he experienced, he was revictimized by his big sister. That poor kid never had a chance. So, so sad. 😢

[@kankanc.1473]

Omg I didn't know that about Jon! Throughout the documentary I was wondering what happened to him since he didn't go through the same corrective treatment as his sister. This news is heartbreaking!

[@lifechariot]

@dianap5504 -- I don't know how I missed this comment to begin with. Apologies for the late reply. No, Jon is not the person who is reported to be in prison for child-trafficking. If you look at that sensationalised story more closely, you will find that the Jon in that online claim is around 60-70 years old, yet the person writing the rumours completely nelgects to point that out to the readers.

[@lifechariot]

@dianap5504 -- Regarding the brother Jon. Jonathan was not "abused" by his dad. He suffered severe "neglect" by his dad. Jonathan would have been less traumatised than Beth from differing experiences with their biological father. Beth’s abuse of Jonathan would also have been far less traumatic, and he was in a good position to fully recover with minimal problems. The following reasons, given by Attachment Theory evidenced research, shows very clearly why this would be the case. Both Jonathan and Beth lost their Mother who died shortly after giving birth to Jonathan. As Beth was around 1-years-old, this would have been deeply traumatic for her. Beth had already formed a healthy and strong attachment to her mother. Any prolonged separation from an established primary caregiver at this age leads to maternal deprivation which has very severe consequence for mental and emotional development of the child involved, yet Beth’s separation from her mother was not just for a prolonged period - it was sudden and permanent. This means Beth would have suffered the most severe trauma of the worst form of maternal deprivation. Jonathan had not established a primary caregiver attachment to his mother or anyone at this point, so his loss was considerably less traumatic. Jonathan was neglected by his father. Left for hours by himself in the first months of life, he was given little if any stimulation and care for perhaps days on end. Beth was neglected in the same fashion as Jonathan, only she was abused as well. It is thought that when the birth father came home drunk at night, he would sexually assault Beth. She continued to have reoccurring nightmares of “a man falling on her with a part of himself”. So whereas Jonathan was neglected, Beth was neglected and abused. Abuse from a primary caregiver happens to be the worst type of abuse that a child can receive. A child is naturally and genetically driven to trust and bond with their primary caregiver. Whenever they feel fear, babies and toddlers enter a highly stressed state where Cortisol levels rise rapidly. If left in this state, they enter a fear induced state which immediately shuts off exploration and play behaviours; they cannot process things normally and fixate of the feared thing. Naturally and instinctively such children seek the comfort of their primary caregiver to sooth, calm and reassure them of safety. Science has shown that contact-comfort (such as hugs from a primary caregiver) creates potent anti-stress hormones which brings terrified toddlers back into a calm state of balance within a matter of seconds; at which point they can play and process things normally. Nevertheless, if the primary caregiver becomes the source of the threat to their baby or toddler, the child enters into an “irresolvable paradox” where they instinctively want to flee from the source of the threat and to their primary caregiver at the same time. As the primary caregiver is the source of the threat, psychological paralysis and pyschological disassociation begins. Children who become fearful and terrified of their primary caregiver are evidenced as developing dissociative disorders in their late teen years. In Summary of the biological father's effects on each child: Jonathan was severely neglected. Beth suffered the most severe form of maternal deprivation, severe neglect, and the most severe form of abuse all at the same time for a continued period. Beth’s abuse on Jonathan was less traumatic for two major reasons. The person who is giving the abuse matters massively. If it’s a primary caregiver who abuses their child, the effects are absolutely devastating, and the child is left in a fixated, dissociating state without contact-comfort. As Jonathan was abused by his sister, while his primary and secondary caregivers were nearby, and he was immediately comforted after the abuse by them, he would have been brought back into a balanced, non-fixated state, in minutes. His trauma would have been minimal. Research shows if children receive contact-comfort after being distressed, they continue to develop secure personalities. They are not left in the high anxiety - stress induced - fixated state; in cortisol-based toxic stress.

[@monkeyballs342]

when i watched an interview with a evil child when she was talking at the age of 6 about what her dad had done to her and treated her and her younger brother never fed or cleaned them and what this had turned her into,hurting her younger brother,having thoughts about killing her adoptive parents you just couldnt not feel bad for the poor kid.it wasnt her fault at a very young age her real mum died at a young age and her father abused her.im glad she has turned out good and helping others and shows how far she has come in her life

[@BBrunnel]

No honestly I watched the documentary yesterday and I'm so happy she made a recovery. Seeing how much she has healed from this awful ordeal was so beautiful to see. I'm so happy she's doing way better.

[@bryannaylor6341]

Interviewer was terrible. Do another interview with a good interviewer. She has a lot to say but not with someone trying to politicize Beth’s story for her own agenda.

[@ohg2070]

I think she should just write a book.

[@laura09284]

The interviewer was madly annoying. Just the way she was wording everything, stumbling over her words, seemed like it wasn’t rehearsed. She kept talking over Beth and rambling. Im not sure what 9/11 has to do with anything- I get the emotional disconnect but lol what?!

[@glogoxxii]

Was curious to know more about her and what her relationship is like with her brother these days and how he turned out, but instead the interviewer wasted time on garbage questions like "What's your take on 9/11?" and "What's the cause of police brutality?" Ugggh

[@lifechariot]

glogoxxii -- Jonathan has given no public statements or interviews that I have found. It is presumed that he doesn't want to be continually contacted by people who are interested in knowing how he feels about being abused by his sister. That said: Jonathan would have been less traumatised than Beth from differing experiences with their biological father. Beth’s abuse of Jonathan would also have been far less traumatic. He would have been in a good position to fully recover with minimal problems. The following reasons, given by Attachment Theory evidenced research, shows very clearly why this would be the case. Both Jonathan and Beth lost their Mother who died shortly after giving birth to Jonathan. As Beth was around 1-years-old, this would have been deeply traumatic for her. Beth had already formed a healthy and strong attachment to her mother. Any prolonged separation from an established primary caregiver at this age leads to maternal deprivation which has very severe consequence for mental and emotional development of the child involved, yet Beth’s separation from her mother was not just for a prolonged period - it was sudden and permanent. This means Beth would have suffered the most severe trauma of the worst form of maternal deprivation. Jonathan had not established a primary caregiver attachment to his mother or anyone at this point, so his loss was considerably less traumatic. Jonathan was neglected by his father. Left for hours by himself in the first months of life, he was given little if any stimulation and care for perhaps days on end. Beth was neglected in the same fashion as Jonathan, only she was abused as well. It is thought that when the birth father came home drunk at night, he would sexually assault Beth. She continued to have reoccurring nightmares of “a man falling on her with a part of himself”. So whereas Jonathan was neglected, Beth was neglected and abused. Abuse from a primary caregiver happens to be the worst type of abuse that a child can receive. A child is naturally and genetically driven to trust and bond with their primary caregiver. Whenever they feel fear, babies and toddlers enter a highly stressed state where Cortisol levels rise rapidly. If left in this state, they enter a fear induced state which immediately shuts off exploration and play behaviours; they cannot process things normally and fixate of the feared thing. Naturally and instinctively such children seek the comfort of their primary caregiver to sooth, calm and reassure them of safety. Science has shown that contact-comfort creates potent anti-stress hormones which brings terrified toddles back into a calm state of balance within a matter of minutes. Nevertheless, if the primary caregiver becomes the source of the treat to their baby or toddler, the child enters into an “irresolvable paradox” where they instinctively want to flee from the source of the treat and to their primary caregiver. As the primary caregiver is the source of the treat, psychological paralysis and disassociation begins. Children who become fearful and terrified of their primary caregiver are evidenced as developing dissociative disorders in their late teen years. In Summary of the biological father effects on each child: Jonathan was severely neglected. Beth suffered the most severe form of maternal deprivation, severe neglect, and the most severe form of abuse all at the same time for a continued period. Beth’s abuse on Jonathan was less traumatic for two major reasons. The person who is giving the abuse matters massively. If it’s a primary caregiver who abuses their child, the effects are absolutely devastating, and the child is left in a fixated, dissociating state without contact-comfort. As Jonathan was abused by his sister while his primary and secondary caregivers were nearby, and he was immediately comforted after the abuse by them, he would have been brought back into a balanced, non-fixated state, in minutes. His trauma would have been minimal. Research shows if children receive contact-comfort after being distressed, they continue to develop secure personalities. They are not left in the high Cortisol highly anxious - stress induced - fixated state.

[@bernadetteschultz3482]

I’m so happy Beth has come so far. I watched her child interview years ago and honestly didn’t think she had hope. I thought she was evil. I’m so happy she has recovered from her traumatic childhood. I’m disappointed in my self that I was one to judge her and give up hope for her. Thank you to all the phycologists and people in Beth’s life who never gave up on her.

[@warlockengineer]

It brings a tear to my eye to know that she has recovered from such a horrible childhood.

[@YukiTogawa]

Narcissist Incest and Father Daughter Rape - happens. When children get out of that and get a full time supervised and extremely loved, empowering, encouraging professional setting, anyone can recover like Beth Thomas but majority are left without help, some until catastrophe. I know this because I didn't get help until I ran away to another country and got help until 43 years after the initial abuse I suffered. I was abused 29 yrs straight. i still don't know if I'm worth anything til today BUT I enjoy my time in nature, animals, moon watching, beach cleaning, street outreach, cooking for those that need delicious handmade dishes and rescue dogs out of kill shelters. I try to pamper myself with sauna, jacuzzi, tropical island time, dolphin diving, and wonderful vegetarian sushi luxury dishes. I'm just accepting my own love and bond with nature. Beth, I'll find a way to send you a thank you card. May your life blossom and continue to be amazing. which ever hospital that employs you is blessed to have you.

[@theTavis01]

sorry to hear that, glad you finally found some help. I want you to know that God loves you very much, even if you think no one else does, and if you place your trust in Jesus Christ you will be lifted up. Whatever it is that awes you about nature is your glimpse of God's glory, and I can see that God is already working in your heart to care for those less fortunate. God bless you.

[@sewsed]

You are amazing and worth more than you realise. Many who have had a privileged life do not achieve nor enjoy what you do. Be proud of who you are and know your self worth ❤️

[@bellamilagro7756]

YOU'RE WORTH EVERYTHING❗💜🙏🙏🙏

[@tejasnair3399]

You are worth all the world. I’d reccomend the Waking Up App. It’s an absolute refuge. I can gift you a free month if you want.

[@benjaminpotaka6846]

She suffered wicked abuse, that no child should have ever been subjected to, and she came out as a nurse, a carer, a beautiful young lady, if that's not a success story then I don't know what is😮❤

[@joannebutzerin6448]

Wow Beth Thomas is impressive. She has really done some amazing work to get past such a severe disorder. Amazing. Too bad the interviewer was so lame...asking pretty irrational and useless questions.

[@Im_a_0reo]

it hurts me a lot when someone says to her thats shes evil or a psycho! no!!! she wasnt evil neither a psycho for God sake!!! she was abused!!!!while watching her video docu when she was a baby girl i burst into tears when she started talking about how she was abuse by his biological father. That she got blood on her *****!!! my God how traumatizing that was for a baby girl.im so glad the she got help from her adopted parents who love her that much. God bless her and by the way she doesnt look creepy whe was was a beautiful girl with big blue eyes :) she kinda looked like my very beautiful niece who is half french thats why it tears me up when i saw beth

[@Noadvantage246]

She was evil and a psycho at the time. Killing animals, torturing, sexually abusing, and trying to kill her brother, etc. If that's not evil nothing in this world is. She's not an exception she's the rule that shows people are ultimately a product of their environment. She showed in the extreme the outcomes environment good and bad can have on people. Every evil person is the product of their environment to one extent or another but after they grow up people stop caring about the underlying trauma and just see them as evil.

[@Crissy0003]

It bothers me too that people keep calling her evil. In the documentary they said that children who endure such horrific abuse and trauma begin to see themselves as bad or evil..that just breaks my heart.

[@pianoman2276]

Beth, you sure are a trooper in every way! You seem more resilient, kind, brave, and empathetic as an adult than a lot of so-called "ordinary" adults are.

[@annabellaszirmay4514]

We love you Beth! ❤️❤️ And we want to hear your voice more often and finally see you in interviews or even TV shows. You have a wonderful and inspiring personality.

[@revelia7898]

I would have liked to know what happened to her brother and how they get along now. But thank you for this interview and your comments.

[@lifechariot]

Revelia - As far as I'm aware there is no content in the public domain with such explicit statements. I believe Jonathan may well prefer it this way, for continually being contacted by members of the press and public about how he was once abused by his older sister probably is not appealing. That said, I can offer you this. Jonathan would not have been deeply traumatised by Beth's abuse of him. This is because of two principal factors. First: the degree to which abuse impacts a child depends upon who performed the abuse. The most damaging abuse is usually that performed by a baby's own mother (the primary caregiver who is trusted above everybody else in the world and is the child's primary interface for understanding reality). In Beth's case, she lost her mother completely. Her biological father became her primary caregiver (when Beth's biological mother died) and then neglected and abused her. Thus as Beth was not a primary, secondary or tertiary caregiver to Jonathan, the impact of her abuse on him would have far less scope than the intensity of what their biological father did to Beth while she was in a most intense phase of the attachment phases and suffering the most severe form of maternal deprivation. Second: the ability for children to recover from distressing acts depends largely on their caregiver's comfort of them when it happens. Beth was both neglected and abused by her biological father while receiving no comfort from these distressed states at all. She was literally left to stew, dissociating, in a cocktail of traumatically high stress hormones for weeks on end. Jonathan on the other hand had both his primary and secondary caregivers comforting him immediately after Beth abused him, so his stress would NOT have been so intense because of who abused him, and he would have recovered from that stressed state almost immediately, so the effects on him would most likely of developed into a healthy weariness of Beth rather than traumatised pathological pathways to maladaptive behaviours. Therefore the amount of stress he received was much lower and his ability to recover from it was much greater. All in all these dynamics revolve around having primary and secondary caregivers to comfort children immediately once they become distressed. Here's a video demonstrating just how vital and powerful contact comfort is for the distressed: kzbin.info/www/bejne/f2Wofmumm6tpmsk

[@revelia7898]

@@lifechariot Thank you for your detailed reply. That's nice of you, and this is exactly what I was wondering: the impact on his psyche. In my opinion, the documentary Child of rage is one of the most important ever made, and this audio brings more light to it. Thanks for the link too!

[@baileycorneal7125]

@@lifechariot I hope he got therapy.

[@Me-fn3qu]

@@lifechariot are you crazy??? "Jonathan would not have been deeply traumatised by Beth's abuse of him. " - your factors are idiotic!!! YOU cannot speak for a victim! YOU have no idea what that boy felt or what result of the abuse he has/had. Also, you seem to forget he sat neglected for 6 months before he was pulled from the birth fathers home.Then, he was abused sexually and physically from his sister. Not being protected even in the adoptive home. After listening to this BS interview, you should really not be giving any psychological reasoning or advice to anyone. PERIOD.

[@kokovenegasmusic]

Me Beth is such an inspiration to me and to come from such abuse and to be brought to the hands of a Godly Christian couple to be her parents tells me how much God loves her and it’s so sad that u would say such awful things about a little girl who was so hurt by the one called to protect her and she was simply acting out from rage which is normal and she went through so much to heal and it is not nice to condemn others when u don’t understand how this can affect people especially a baby she wasn’t even a child she was still a little baby I’m crying as I’m writing this because I can see how God can take our lives and He turned her life around and now he’s using it for His Glory he is using her to help other children with similar traumas I’m sure she had to forgive herself for hurting others understanding that hurt people hurt people. I’m sure her brother went thru a hard time as well but I’m sure he forgave Beth because she was a little girl and has now changed her life so please pray so that God helps u to have a bit more empathy towards Beth as well as she is a changed person now who is making a difference and has come a long way ❤️🙏❤️

[@godlygirls62]

I firmly believe that adults who sexually abuse children deserve the death penalty. The (usually) mothers who fail to protect their children with proof of the abuse obvious, deserve life without parole. You see I endured physical, emotional and sexual abuse, like Beth from the hands of my very own "father" from ages 4-12. It has scarred me for life. I've endured decades of medication resistant depression, thoughts of suicide and drug abuse. The monster who did this to me I now dead, and I'm still left to suffer

[@nellyudensi6777]

There's Jesus Just run into his arms. Get delivered and heal This type of healing is incredible. I promise, you won't regret it. Talk to God today

[@godlygirls62]

@@nellyudensi6777 Naw suga. As a child, I ask Jesus hundreds of times to stop the abuse. He didn't so why should I bother now

[@nellyudensi6777]

Just so you stop suffering, so you can heal. So you can find peace. Just that....I'm sure he has a lot he wants you to know too

[@modenaman]

@@nellyudensi6777 fuck you, I sincerely mean that. Where the hell was God and Jesus when my sisters and I were molested from ages 3-10 by our pastor? Guess they were too busy to help innocent kids. Don’t ever bring that shit up to a SA survivor.

[@nellyudensi6777]

As a SA survivor , I have nothing else to tell you to embrace Jesus. I'm not just a regular person telling you this, but a survivor too. It doesn't make sense but run into his arms and it'll begin to

[@FairyFrequency]

Wow! Beth really turned out to be an amazing human being. Thank you for sharing this.

[@lifechariot]

You are so welcome!

[@jeanneduckduck]

sophia is a terrible interviewer. She pretty much sounds like she's making fun of her trauma or trying to make light of it. Such an interesting person to interview and she just wasted time

[@nr6949]

Yes!!!! 😞

[@berlyngrey9242]

My heart absolutely broke knowing what happened to this little girl. Hearing her story and knowing the damage it caused her and her little brother. Also seeing the remarkable progress she made during her aggressive therapy made me tear up. I'm so happy to hear her outcome because you hear time and time again about those who do act upon their negative intentions and cannot be rehabilitated so to know her response was a positive and successful one makes me hopeful that all children are capable of turning around with lots of love, attention and constant therapy! Thank you to all who helped this little girl heal and grow into the beautiful person she is today!!!

[@calliope9768]

I’m so happy she overcame everything she went through and still made an good life for herself

[@dadecountess8]

we need a better interviewer ...im so glad she is doing well. she is beautiful too

[@Michelle-qq4sd]

So painful to hear what she suffered. Very happy she got the right help and is trying to help others. ❤️

[@sethstine4698]

What does police violence have to do with ANY of this? This interviewer is IGNORANT

[@GabrielTheMagolorMain]

I’m so glad you came in and said how inappropriate those political questions were. Beth came to the interview to talk about her experience, not what she believes about 9/11.

[@micahsalas8963]

😂😂

[@heatheregger8808]

I'm so thrilled she was able to recover! Just wow!

[@thisistheam]

No one ever talks about her Brother, except to describe the horrific abuse he suffered at her hands. I'm not blaming her, believe me- but why doesn't he matter too? Is he even alive? No one acts like it.

[@ohg2070]

I was wondering the same thing.

[@lifechariot]

Amber Mitchell -- Believe it or not, quetions regarding Beth's brother are some of the most frequently asked. It seem he does not want to be known as the boy who was abused by his sister. He has made no videos nor taken part in any interviews to my knowledge. I believe he just wants to live a normal life without press members and KZbin enthusiasts knocking on his door, emailing and calling him to ask questions about abuse he suffered at the hands of his sister which he most likely rembers nothing about. Although it can be nice to express concern, we must not let our sympathies become intrusive tools of narcissistic whims. -------- ----------------- --------------- ---------- --------- Nevertheless, Jonathan would not have been as traumatised from the abuse of his sister as she was by the abuse of her father. The evidence-base of Attachment Theory shows several clear reasons why this is the case. Abuse by a primary-caregiver is the most traumatic of abuse. Not only because they are naturally suppost to guide and comfort their child, but because when a child is distressed or terrified (high stress/high cortisol levels) it seeks its primary-caregiver for comfort, and the physical skin-to-skin comforting creates a potent anti-stress hormone to be created which rapidly reduces the high cortisol stress effects the child is experiencing. When left in a high stressed state, a toddler's ability to process even the most simple things become massively reduced and they are left in a shocked state. If this is prolonged, it seriously compromises mental and emotional development. Thus as Jonathan was abused by his sister, Beth, at times when his parents were close by means that not only was the trauma less to begin with but it was soothed straight away by his parents comforts. Children who receive immediate comfort after trauma do not grow up to be traumatised, for they instinctively learn that a good ending normally prevails while their cognitive and emotional development aren't arrested by prolonged states of shock. The situation of being abused by a primary-caregiver and then being left, alone and without comfort, in a high stressed state is what causes the types of severe trama Beth exhibited.

[@thisistheam]

@@lifechariot I don’t think you or anyone else gets to make the distinction about whose abuse is worse for whom or why, but thanks for trying to answer.

[@lifechariot]

@@thisistheam - No. Attachment Theory which has over 60 years of evidence-based research and is the largest body of knowledge in psychology clearly demonstrates the above. It focuses exactly on these issues. lifechariot.academy/attachment-theory/

[@thisistheam]

@@lifechariot Are you suggesting the baby boy had healthy attachments in his early life?

[@jkaz7509]

Beth is a blessing from above, Jesus had her in His sights and was ready to make a miracle out of the evil in her beginning of life. this is why I love our Lord so much!!! What an intelligent woman as well she has grown into, and now helping children. What a miracle thank you Lord!!! Bless Beth for her whole life, and her adoptive parents and family, I pray heaped blessings upon them all!

[@LadyWillanger]

Amen!! 🙏🏻

[@bandname]

Of course, thank the none existent being who supposedly placed her in that abusive situation in the first place. Let's take time to thank the clinicians and therapists along with CPS who helped.

[@manonymous4737]

You are sick. Imagine praising someone who deliberately puts a child where she can be horrifically abused.

[@Klinikuull]

@@manonymous4737 frfr. people are so delusional. the girl got help for what she endured as a child and people think it’s a grace from God. like no 💀

[@manonymous4737]

@@Klinikuull It’s insane.

[@PotawatomiThunderNew]

Man this is so awesome to see. To see how she was as a kid and what she’s like now, it’s really heartwarming. Because for me, seeing how she was at first in the Child of Rage documentary, and then how she was later when they showed the progress she was making while receiving treat, I thought it was good, but I was very weary about how much food it would ultimately do. Because unfortunately, not everyone is a success story and sometimes it can seem as though their healing is temporary and didn’t work out in the long run. And so with her I thought “yeah she’s showing progress now, but it feels way too early to celebrate. What if she has some sort of relapse?”. So that’s kinda what I had in mind when I saw that. And now seeing this, and just how successfully she was treated and just her overall awareness of her situation, it just feels really good to see.

[@remizart]

I remember this docu with her and wondered how Beth was now! I’m glad to see that she has control of her life and feelings. She is not defined by the abusive monster of her past but rather by the living testimony she is today! Beautiful that she can now help others living a similar nightmare and even more beautiful that she found her forever home and a mom that loved her unconditionally. I do wonder about her other siblings??? Less 9/11 ..... more breakthrough questions.

[@JennyLouLou]

I distinctly remember seeing the initial HBO special when I was a younger teen. I'm so grateful to now learn of Beth's recovery. ❤️

[@fuzbugg]

wow, this is incredible. she sounds so together and really healed after so much horrifying abuse and unfortunately extreme acting out as a child. i’m so glad this exists even though as others have said the interviewer is incompetent...but she is articulate and generous enough to carry the interview

[@conniethingstad1070]

Unfortunately I lived with this and my story turned out successful too. Took years to find the right treatment as RAD was a new diagnosis in the 1980s into early 2000s.

[@jennajohnson5847]

This woman is absolutely amazing she lived through and is helping others shes brilliant hat off to you lady xx

[@ericaevonne]

What a beautiful woman! Using what she went through to help other abused children. My heart breaks for the little girl that was her, but is so proud of the woman that she has become.❤

[@fuckyouyoutube7921]

I'm so happy she's doing better. I watched the documentary when she did therapy and then asked about how she felt about hurting her brother. When she cried I cried too, I felt so sorry for this little girl. When she said, she didn't want him to be alive because she was hurt so bad and didn't want him to be hurt also... Its so Hard to watch innocence be poisoned like that. I'm so happy she has healed and she's become such a strong person. ALSO HORRIBLE INTERVIEWER!! that woman srsly.... It boggles my mind that men feel the need to rape their own daughters. So very, very disgusting.

[@brigittebeltran6701]

Thank you so much for this presentation Beth and Sophia. As a school teacher of children with emotional disabilities, I recognize many of my students with this eternal rage. I have a kindergarten child who throws chairs and freely strikes his peers. Fortunately our principal and teachers are very patient, compassionate, and empathetic. I am very aware that their neglectful parents are to blame. 💔😢

[@milkmanswife93696]

inspiring. I still can't conceive of a life where I have moved past my trauma, but stories like beth's give me hope and fill me with love for all beings.

[@dannav4964]

That's totally understandable. Unfortunately, in order to heal, you have to find a way to believe in the possibility and Beth represents that for you. You don't have to believe it, just be open to the idea of it. That will open up your energy to receive healing.

[@zaikura-chan6949]

Even in looking back at her tapes as a child. When she talked about the baby birds, she never said she killed them or wanted to kill them. She said she played too rough and the last one died. In rwality they all died. Their necks snapped. She didnt recognize how her actions led to their death, and it didnt seem like her intention. However, when speaking of her nuclear family, she said she DID intend to hurt and kill them. And she got this look of anger on her face every time she talked about it. And she had trouble controlling violent outbursts, and sexual outbursts... she seemed to feel bad about the birds, but didnt want to accept responsibility. And she was misplacing her anger for the actions of her birth family on her new loving family. Im so glas that she had proper care after this. You could tell that she needed to learn the skills on HOW to attatch and trust. And luckily it wasnt too late to learn those skills for her. ❤

[@TheAlleywayAlligator]

What a horrible interviewer ... 🤮 I feel so sorry and bad for beth getting this lady to ask her questions and talk to her when the interviewer is very clearly uneducated. Id wish she would have a shot with a better interviewer. That is sooo embarrassing. This is a very good example of why you would write down questions and not just WING IT.

[@wamz9191]

Right?! 🚮🗑

[@alantaylor6691]

I couldn't believe she wasn't asked about how her brother ended up fairing and whether she's now in contact with him. I suppose it's possible she requested not to bring the brother up during the interview.

[@samwallaceart288]

Yeah how do you make yourself the call-in guest to your own interview?

[@em6577]

Thank goodness Beth crossed paths with her adoptive parents...they have all done amazing🥰

[@soposh5673]

She is clearly damaged from going to church as a kid. She'd be better off in a psych ward

[@jasoncheriton1836]

I can't say, that after watching an uncomfortable documentary on the young Beth Thomas, that I didn't shed a few tears! I am so proud to see this 'victims' victory into her future. Best wishes Beth. You're a credit to the love you were shown x

[@Bobbi5941]

Amazing . Beth has grown up to be a very beautiful woman, and so successful . Remarkable woman . Love you , Beth .

[@SpokaneGirl85]

Beth was very lucky to have adoptive parents who knew how to get her help even if it meant giving her up and she was young enough to still recover and make progress when her brain was still developing. Any longer, it might have been too late. They saved her life. Without treatment, she may have evolved into ASPD.

[@mishhind3549]

This interviewer had one job. She was unprepared and rambled on and on. Missing every opportunity to ask well thought out questions-with meaning. Wasted and disappointing. Beth has so much knowledge and experience to share yet this interviewer was incapable of bringing that out. Horrible interview!

[@zaikura-chan6949]

What do you mean? Beth was the person being interviewed... she was the one speaking the bulk of the interview!

[@DoABarellJo]

@@zaikura-chan6949 and when she wasn't speaking, the interviewer Sophia was rambling on about Baltimore and asking thoughtless questions

[@Alice77550]

Was the interviewer seriously trying to link people rioting in with this harrowing story?! So glad Beth got the right help.

[@shannonleplastrier5927]

What stupid questions asked. Was 911 an inside job, political references made and asking if police brutality is appropriate. What the heck does any of that have to do with beth’s story and reactive attachment disorder. This radio presenter did not listen to anything Beth said or understood the disorder. Terrible interviewer. Beth did really well under such stupid questions

[@GABRIELLA3254]

Yes, the interviewer sucked, but I'm glad to see Beth is doing good. I watched her interview Child of rage for the first time when I was 12, and never forgot it. Rewatched it today alongside with the movie

[@nkenda6974]

I totally agree. The interviewer has no clue.

[@Melanie_Ferrara]

All child abusers ought to be put down, the damage they cause is just catastrophic. I’m so happy that Beth got well, I hope her brother is well too

[@potter3439]

I wholeheartedly agree

[@Melanie_Ferrara]

Harv Potts thanks for your comment - I just don’t understand why they aren’t either locked away forever, castrated (not just chemically) or put to death. They have absolutely no place on this earth.

[@subliminalawarenessbeautif6878]

Absolutely! They can't change their twisted thinking and always a danger

[@Linda-mo5sl]

@@Melanie_Ferrara i think they battle the same emotions she did as a little girl. I don't condone child abuse at all i just wish that molesters and abusers can watch this and realize the damage they inflict. It might be a few seconds of pleasure for them but literally a lifetime of damage and pain for that child.

[@Melanie_Ferrara]

Linda de Klerk I agree, there’s a very high chance they were abused themselves as children and are reliving their childhoods but this time it’s them with the power... it’s a vicious cycle which is why the punishment ought to be severe. Don’t give them a chance to procreate or enter a relationship with anyone with kids, or live in society where they’ll be near children. Completely remove them on a permanent basis. I know it wouldn’t stop the problem but it would help.

[@dicksooker2119]

These comments are heartbreaking. Beth you are so strong I am genuinely so happy you’ve progressed the way you have. You are an incredible woman. Always continue to be yourself.

[@JZUCF30]

Yo this interviewer was kind of iffy at the start but the second she brought up if 911 was an inside job I had to shut this shit off tf is up with her

[@gametut2012]

Yea i knew something was up with this interviewer at first, like the questions she was asking were very strange, throughout the interview you start to seize she's asking some stupid ass questions that have nothing to do with her disorder for the most part.

[@samwallaceart288]

Yeah Beth is the normal one here.

[@Goodpatron]

That's great SHE got help... Where the heck is her brother???! He was just as much a victim as she was!!

[@nishikigoi.]

I know right?! That’s what I was thinking.

[@Amy_Stanmore]

Maybe he prefers anonymity

[@lifechariot]

Palahume -- Jonathan has given no public statements or interviews that I have found. It is presumed that he doesn't want to be continually contacted by people who are interested in knowing how he feels about being abused by his sister. That said: Jonathan would have been less traumatised than Beth from differing experiences with their biological father. Beth’s abuse of Jonathan would also have been far less traumatic. He would have been in a good position to fully recover with minimal problems. The following reasons, given by Attachment Theory evidenced research, shows very clearly why this would be the case. Both Jonathan and Beth lost their Mother who died shortly after giving birth to Jonathan. As Beth was around 1-years-old, this would have been deeply traumatic for her. Beth had already formed a healthy and strong attachment to her mother. Any prolonged separation from an established primary caregiver at this age leads to maternal deprivation which has very severe consequence for mental and emotional development of the child involved, yet Beth’s separation from her mother was not just for a prolonged period - it was sudden and permanent. This means Beth would have suffered the most severe trauma of the worst form of maternal deprivation. Jonathan had not established a primary caregiver attachment to his mother or anyone at this point, so his loss was considerably less traumatic. Jonathan was neglected by his father. Left for hours by himself in the first months of life, he was given little if any stimulation and care for perhaps days on end. Beth was neglected in the same fashion as Jonathan, only she was abused as well. It is thought that when the birth father came home drunk at night, he would sexually assault Beth. She continued to have reoccurring nightmares of “a man falling on her with a part of himself”. So whereas Jonathan was neglected, Beth was neglected and abused. Abuse from a primary caregiver happens to be the worst type of abuse that a child can receive. A child is naturally and genetically driven to trust and bond with their primary caregiver. Whenever they feel fear, babies and toddlers enter a highly stressed state where Cortisol levels rise rapidly. If left in this state, they enter a fear induced state which immediately shuts off exploration and play behaviours; they cannot process things normally and fixate of the feared thing. Naturally and instinctively such children seek the comfort of their primary caregiver to sooth, calm and reassure them of safety. Science has shown that contact-comfort creates potent anti-stress hormones which brings terrified toddles back into a calm state of balance within a matter of minutes. Nevertheless, if the primary caregiver becomes the source of the treat to their baby or toddler, the child enters into an “irresolvable paradox” where they instinctively want to flee from the source of the treat and to their primary caregiver. As the primary caregiver is the source of the treat, psychological paralysis and disassociation begins. Children who become fearful and terrified of their primary caregiver are evidenced as developing dissociative disorders in their late teen years. In Summary of the biological father effects on each child: Jonathan was severely neglected. Beth suffered the most severe form of maternal deprivation, severe neglect, and the most severe form of abuse all at the same time for a continued period. Beth’s abuse on Jonathan was less traumatic for two major reasons. The person who is giving the abuse matters massively. If it’s a primary caregiver who abuses their child, the effects are absolutely devastating, and the child is left in a fixated, dissociating state without contact-comfort. As Jonathan was abused by his sister while his primary and secondary caregivers were nearby, and he was immediately comforted after the abuse by them, he would have been brought back into a balanced, non-fixated state, in minutes. His trauma would have been minimal. Research shows if children receive contact-comfort after being distressed, they continue to develop secure personalities. They are not left in the high Cortisol highly anxious - stress induced - fixated state.

[@lydiax55]

lousy interviewer, Beth was gracious. in the future, i hope Beth is more selective to who she lets interview her

[@nancydrew7675]

Worst interviewer ever while Beth is speaking her heart out. Give her a hearing geez and think before you speak

[@Z533xxx]

I appreciate you calling out the interviewer for their in appropriate questions. It’s really a shame too, they felt so uninformed on Beth and the condition they were discussing. I’d really love to see an interview with Beth from a competent person, sadly it seems this is the only available audio interview of her as an adult.

[@DoABarellJo]

@FlyingMonkies325 no trust me dude there are better, more competent, more tactful interviewers on psychology topics than this one.

[@nafisa.t13]

This is why early intervention is important, and I'm so glad she received the proper care she needed. Hope she holds on and keeps doing good things. And I hope her brother is doing wellm also, that poor child.

[@lifechariot]

Nafisa Tabassum -- Jonathan has given no public statements or interviews that I have found. It is presumed that he doesn't want to be continually contacted by people who are interested in knowing how he feels about being abused by his sister. That said: Jonathan would have been less traumatised than Beth from differing experiences with their biological father. Beth’s abuse of Jonathan would also have been far less traumatic. He would have been in a good position to fully recover with minimal problems. The following reasons, given by Attachment Theory evidenced research, shows very clearly why this would be the case. Both Jonathan and Beth lost their Mother who died shortly after giving birth to Jonathan. As Beth was around 1-years-old, this would have been deeply traumatic for her. Beth had already formed a healthy and strong attachment to her mother. Any prolonged separation from an established primary caregiver at this age leads to maternal deprivation which has very severe consequence for mental and emotional development of the child involved, yet Beth’s separation from her mother was not just for a prolonged period - it was sudden and permanent. This means Beth would have suffered the most severe trauma of the worst form of maternal deprivation. Jonathan had not established a primary caregiver attachment to his mother or anyone at this point, so his loss was considerably less traumatic. Jonathan was neglected by his father. Left for hours by himself in the first months of life, he was given little if any stimulation and care for perhaps days on end. Beth was neglected in the same fashion as Jonathan, only she was abused as well. It is thought that when the birth father came home drunk at night, he would sexually assault Beth. She continued to have reoccurring nightmares of “a man falling on her with a part of himself”. So whereas Jonathan was neglected, Beth was neglected and abused. Abuse from a primary caregiver happens to be the worst type of abuse that a child can receive. A child is naturally and genetically driven to trust and bond with their primary caregiver. Whenever they feel fear, babies and toddlers enter a highly stressed state where Cortisol levels rise rapidly. If left in this state, they enter a fear induced state which immediately shuts off exploration and play behaviours; they cannot process things normally and fixate of the feared thing. Naturally and instinctively such children seek the comfort of their primary caregiver to sooth, calm and reassure them of safety. Science has shown that contact-comfort creates potent anti-stress hormones which brings terrified toddles back into a calm state of balance within a matter of minutes. Nevertheless, if the primary caregiver becomes the source of the treat to their baby or toddler, the child enters into an “irresolvable paradox” where they instinctively want to flee from the source of the treat and to their primary caregiver. As the primary caregiver is the source of the treat, psychological paralysis and disassociation begins. Children who become fearful and terrified of their primary caregiver are evidenced as developing dissociative disorders in their late teen years. In Summary of the biological father effects on each child: Jonathan was severely neglected. Beth suffered the most severe form of maternal deprivation, severe neglect, and the most severe form of abuse all at the same time for a continued period. Beth’s abuse on Jonathan was less traumatic for two major reasons. The person who is giving the abuse matters massively. If it’s a primary caregiver who abuses their child, the effects are absolutely devastating, and the child is left in a fixated, dissociating state without contact-comfort. As Jonathan was abused by his sister while his primary and secondary caregivers were nearby, and he was immediately comforted after the abuse by them, he would have been brought back into a balanced, non-fixated state, in minutes. His trauma would have been minimal. Research shows if children receive contact-comfort after being distressed, they continue to develop secure personalities. They are not left in the high Cortisol highly anxious - stress induced - fixated state.

[@barbaracatallo4406]

The worst interviewer! Even the narrator said the interviewer was pushing her political agenda.

[@effiebanks5642]

Oh my goodness! This female interviewer doesn't have a clue about human behavior! And if that's not bad enough, she is totally lacking in human kindness and grace, and I believe we can add "empathy" onto that list. Poor Beth having to endure this disastrous woman. After some research I see that this interview was done through a program called "The People Speak" and that the original interview between Beth and the female is being reviewed and commented on by the male host. I originally thought 2 people were interviewing Beth at one time. The awful questions asked by the female interviewer are a testament to researching who is asking you for an interview prior to saying "yes", and also shows us why some people walk out of interviews when the questions are so ridiculous or "out there", that we can't believe what we're hearing. Beth withstood this with grace, superior understanding, patience, and intelligence. I felt so appalled by the questions, particularly about her childhood violence and violence in her life today, that I wanted to turn the interview off, but I didn't want to miss anything Beth had to say. What an amazing woman, and what an amazing life journey so far. There is so much here in her story to inform human psychology and how early trauma can be healed. I wish her all the best, and applaud her tremendous bravery, and personal growth in the face of such adversary. She was hurt terribly by awful, mean spirited, uncaring people who had control over her life, but thank goodness she found intelligent, caring people to guide her, eventually, and she had the spirit to take the journey. Good for you Beth!

[@mohsenradie5851]

When I heard Beth voice started to pray for everyone who helped specially those 2 angels imean the Foster parents I am sure you will be live in heaven for ever till god sends you back again to save another beautiful angel of this earth god bless you my dear. please Beth pray for me because you are the one. you are the one who clearly have God's love with and people can see and feel he's present in you love you and your God so so so much please I'm bagging you pray for me God bless.

[@KAdams-dr4pc]

Life Chariot, I came across this video and watched it. I noticed it came out 1year ago. After watching, I read the comments. Some of them were nice .... BUT damn, there are so many disrespectful commenters !! People who know nothing and have never researched any of this, telling you that her story is bullsh*t and all the hate from people. I don't believe I've ever read so many hateful comments from one video. Well .... let me tell you .... YOU have my RESPECT. Thank you for uploading this video. I'm happy that Beth is doing good, that's she's happy and healthy. Take care. 🌷 You got a new subscriber here. 💛🧡❤💛🧡❤

[@prepforlife4425]

Yes Unfortunately there are many psychopaths walking this earth that have not healed and are ignorant to the impact of trauma ; A lot are on platforms like this.

[@KAdams-dr4pc]

@@prepforlife4425 Yes. Perfectly said.

[@lifechariot]

Thank you. That was really nice of you to say so.

[@alantaylor6691]

Tell me about it. Especially that Lazy Tongue character, she's absolutely ROLLING. lol

[@user-vk4gu4jt7z]

Я так благодарен Вам дорогой друг за это интервью,в котором можно слышать прекрасный голос Beth,и её наполненные мудростью слова. Пусть благословит Вас Господь! Я нахожусь в далёкой России,но увидев историю Beth ,а потом послушав это интервью,которое помогло разобраться в том что не стоит слушать гадости про Beth и её маму, захотел обнять Beth,а Вас сильно поблагодарить.

[@christinevogt-klimshuk2461]

This was such a heart crushing story in the documentary and the made for TV movie. I always hoped Beth would do well! I’m happy to see that she has and is giving so very much back to others! What a brave and very strong young lady! She is a hero in every sense of the word! Many, many blessings Beth!

[@Frannie2199]

This interviewer just said “unbalancement”. Ma’am.

[@sosacaustica7248]

😂

[@melodyvalentine8779]

🤣🤣🤣

[@chynnadoll3277]

Is this interviewer drunk?

[@ivanstayner8818]

Beth was never an evil child. She just didn't have guidance when she needed it most. I believe no one is truly evil. They just have evil tendencies. And like all tendencies, they change. And for beth, they did change. I was diagnosed as a sociopath when I was 6-7 years old. And my most aggressive years we're in highschool. I did things, that were bad. I hurt a lot of people emotionally. I hurt a lot of loved ones. But it was when I almost made someone commit suicide, is when I realized that what I was doing was wrong. I hurt a very sweet and kind girl, who did absolutely nothing wrong, I flipped her world upside down. But come 5-6 years later and I despise that person I once was. I use my ability to charm and manipulate to help people that can't take control of there selves. People that would have preyed on, are now people I help. I tell them lies, but it is with the goal to help them in the long run. I creat scenarios where they do something good, and it makes them feel good. People are not born evil. They are made evil by how are raised, and now they think. But everyone can change, it just takes enough time and effort.

[@jazzyg6059]

Not all tendencies change at all. As well as believing people aren't evil. Convincing yourself otherwise is only helpful to people like the one who raped her. He likely had people around him with eyes wide shut

[@CatWalk2]

This interviewer is awful! She should be ashamed of herself for trying to push her agenda again and again instead of focusing on this amazing woman who has worked so hard to heal.