Betrayed Raphael Epilogue rare cutscene - Baldur's Gate 3

If you knock him out (leave him alive) at the House of Hope, deal with the brain and let Gale give the crown to Mystra.

[@BirdMoose]

"I would have dealt fairly with you" Buddy you literally wrote the deal so that you could betray me on a technicality.

[@Infernal460]

*Raphael: But you would have seen it, read it, known it. When you finally tasted it, you would not be able to be suprised by it.*

[@Ilkanar]

how could he betray us?

[@__OS__]

@@Ilkanar if i recall well, the deal was for him not to attack our realm, but he could have others do it, by proxy, and so on

[@stitch009]

Facts. Looked at that deal and did a full on about face.

[@riffgroove]

You NEVER deal with a devil. This shouldn't even have to be explained. They run a zero-sum game.

[@tyrant-den884]

"Its the gods who cause all the problems" -Guy trying to become a god.

[@memecat9830]

Isn’t it both?

[@tyrant-den884]

@@memecat9830 what is your point?

[@aegisScale]

You see, he's only mad because he's only _witnessing_ the god's conspiracies, not _doing_ them.

[@Turnil321]

He Will be a better god

[@tyrant-den884]

@@Turnil321 😂😂😂 no he won't.

[@saintricardo8746]

Bamboozling: 🤣 Getting bamboozled: 😾

[@homicidalgeorge]

"how dare you betray me before i betray you!"

[@RaideDuku]

Heh, I love the narcissism of this guy. "Well, gotta give my post-game bad guy speech. Think I'm going to need at least 3 cameras to deliver it." 😆

[@syntetiskavfall8485]

plus some zooming too lmao

[@Peydonary]

Lololol i love the idea that the framing is his decision and not like, just a part of the game. Hilarious and meta

[@denethorsmackinonmatoes6800]

When you're a magnificent bastard, you can't help being magnificent, or a bastard

[@remconoordermeer7015]

lol, only now you pointed this out that I noticed this! Wonderfully epic!

[@aimeeinkling]

I am hearing the control room in my head for this broadcast..."Okay, go on camera one, ready on camera two..."

[@snyperheadshoot]

What a great VA, after 5 playthroughs, Raphael is the only character that I still don't dare to skip a voice line.

[@techreviewerjlox]

Ketheric Thorm and Sarevok too tbh.

[@gamingweasel4633]

@@techreviewerjlox Orrin also...the actor does a great job being unhinged.

[@nobuffer101]

Tav who doesn’t care and just wanted to get rid of the tadpole so they could sleep: “k.”

[@shadowcastyt]

Durge who now rules the world as Bhaals chosen: 😂🤣😭😅😆😄😆

[@andrewthorn7283]

*LIVE: Cambion copes hard. "Lol, cope" - says Mystra.*

[@callmezeldaonemoartime]

Live RAPHAEL Reaction

[@ДмитрийОсипов-м9д]

@@callmezeldaonemoartime devil goes on "vacation", never comes back

[@callmezeldaonemoartime]

@@ДмитрийОсипов-м9д devil holds biggest L of the century. asked to leave house of hope

[@ULTRAOutdoorsman]

pretty much yes, Kenneth Copeland levels of Cope

[@ДмитрийОсипов-м9д]

@@callmezeldaonemoartime House of Hope? More like House of Cope

[@ShallBePurified]

He's trying so hard to gaslight us lol.

[@Maite-AileenBrandt]

Damnnn, those switching active camera positions and Raphael turning to the respective active one adds sooo muuch to the whole scene (imo). This is genius, I love it!

[@inpoppunkwetrust]

alright raphael girlies i see what you're talking about

[@gorey348]

LMFAOAO just remember hes canonically bad in bed

[@tyrant-den884]

"YOU GAVE UMBRA TO CLAVICUS VILE?! In what scenario does that end well?"

[@Comuniity_]

Mystra is literally more powerful than Karsus was even in the 5 seconds he ascended to godhood. The Crown is useless for Mystra, i feel confident saying its safest in her hands.

[@Masonxx12]

Yup. I mean when Gale tells you about his original plan to return the Karsite Weave to Mystra, you can compare it to dropping "a cup of water into the ocean." Despite what Raphael says, I think the Crown really is just a trinket for Mystra compared to her full power. She just prefers to keep it out of anybody else's hands.

[@jeanlou3]

Mystra’s weave is larger than the Kirstie weave indeed, but is only a small fraction from the magic of Faerun, organized, walled off and controlled by Mystra. Mystra is also not the one that created the weave, but the 3rd incarnation of the goddess of magic. The first, Mystryl, died to stop Krsus to consume all of magic. The second, Mystra, was killed during the times of trouble. The third, that we see in game, is quite a young deity (Elminster, for example, is waaaaay older) that inherited only half of the powers from the second iteration, and way less than Mystryl, that created the weave. So the crown itself is quite useless to Mystra, but it is way older than her, and thus THE PROCESS under which is was created is very important. It is from a time of higher magic, and its creation caused the death of a more powerful deity. The current Mystra cannot expand the weave, only maintain it. Be it by folly or ambition, she might try to expand it again to its former glory now that she has the tool to do so. Only Ao knows how that would end.

[@thisisaname5589]

If you find Mystra trustworthy. I don't. Sure, Raphael is absolutely the wrong person to have it, but Mystra's not great either. She is tyrannical and cruel in her control over magic, (lawful neutral, not lawful good,) and has done very shady things before.

[@Comuniity_]

@@thisisaname5589 the crown is pretty useless to her though thats my point

[@thisisaname5589]

@@Comuniity_ She doesn't want anyone else to have it. She's not trustworthy. Denying her might be worth it, just for the sake of denying her.

[@GreenSeerManu]

He's so salty 😂 Clearly, there are some gods I would never entrust with the crown but Mystra is not one of them. She's litteraly all about balance. It's not a perfect solution but it's quite reasonable to deliver the crown to her. Raphael is just projecting.

[@Athompthomp]

he's trying to hide his bitterness but giving this long speech he proved his lost of cool

[@SirTimbo]

I know almost everyone does his boss fight, but I hope they don't kill him off officially and he becomes a thanatos gambit villain.

[@thehippie3610]

I'm gonna just knock him out lol

[@WildVii]

Devils killed in the hells are permadead, according to the lore.

[@ДмитрийОсипов-м9д]

@@WildVii nevertheless for a second I though Raphael was somehow not dead and came for my soul

[@X-Bones]

I signed the contract with Raphael then destroyed it and killed him. Still got a cutscene at the end of Raphael thanking me for the crown and how he was going to take over the hells. Even when I beat the game I still can’t escape these damn bugs.

[@ar2014]

Lol yeah i got this epilogue and i killed him as well

[@keeperofnecronomicon]

He just let you think you’d kill him to stop you from actually killing him. If your going to go to the trouble to steal the contract you might as well break in and steal the hammer.

[@addy4542]

Wait didn't they say if you kill a devil they just return to avenus

[@animathehallowed1380]

@@addy4542he was already in Avernus. So he should be completely dead

[@JosephW.]

​@addy4542 if you kill them out of avernus they do

[@inkakoutna7155]

I am so glad I got this on my first run (I was so surprised). As soon as I heard that Gortash did the same stick I knew my double-crosser drow needed to pull Ocean 11. I absolutely recommend House of hope, it's a blast. Raphael is a great villain.

[@raeg1100]

When Raphael proposed the deal I chose to go "I dunnooooo...." And then after walking away immediately told Lae'zel we're gonna steal the crown. When the minion talked to me downstairs I chose to go "huh, I guess I should rethink this" to keep them off my tracks (tho I guess it didn't matter in the long run, just got a "WHAT ARE YOU THINKING??" later from Gale). Definitely had plans to steal the hammer the moment I learned it was an option 😂

[@GKViddingHD]

How did you do it? That "leave him alive" aspect confuses me. Non-lethal blows are - usually - treated as permanent.

[@aegisScale]

​@@raeg1100 same, but without the minion💀 The whole time Raphael was talking I was sitting there like "what's stopping me from just rolling up to your house with more smokepowder than the Iron Hands could dream of, taking the hammer and blasting you into Hell 2?" Admittedly it'd be very funny if you could just tell him something to that effect straight-up.

[@raeg1100]

@@aegisScale Honestly, it's an artifact that can leash an Elder brain. Why does he think I'm gonna let him have it? He's a devil, we ALL know he's gonna do something nasty with it.

[@callmezeldaonemoartime]

I was going to take Raphael’s deal on my Honour run so I could free Orpheus without risking House of Hope, but I planned on having Gale explode to skip the final boss so I didn’t sign the contract in case of a Game Over. Cool to know I could have taken the deal and still beaten the game, this cutscene is sick

[@anderescobar4752]

If you were olanning to explode anyway, why not do it before the Ketheric fight in Act 2?

[@iphoneShothand]

@@anderescobar4752doesn’t count for the honor mode achievement if you blow up Gale in Act 2. He has to blow up at the brain stem for you to get the achievement that way.

[@callmezeldaonemoartime]

@@anderescobar4752 Act 2 Game Overs you, but in Act 3 in the final confrontation Gale can either explode in a cutscene teleporting you away, or you can use the explode command during the fight and all of your current party members die but it doesn’t count as a Game Over

[@morozko7488]

Want to point out, Orphic hammer is not crucial to beat the game, you don't need to make deals with Raph or raid the House of Hope, you can just stay with daddy mindflayer 😊

[@lazylittledragon]

i would absolutely love to see raphael (or any other powerful character tbh) be a fourth wall breaking character who remembers what you’ve done if you reload saves and make different choices, like karlach’s speech where she knows she’s in a game but to the extreme. larian has always been so aggressively “your choices matter” that i could see it happening

[@atlasgraham154]

I think there should just be a random flower you can find in the wild that will mock you for your most recent save-scum whenever you talk to it.

[@satsukynolife4094]

That kind of trope has become a drug to me since I've first played undertale, I'd certainly love to see more of it in bg3

[@aidanstead7272]

I'd love if there were some Never Ending Story kind of moment where a character slowly looks into the camera and says something along the lines of "Help me"

[@MoneyPrinter123]

I listened to every word and heard no lies.

[@caerdwyn7467]

That's the most insidious part of Raphael. He speaks truth, but in a way mortals can choose to misinterpret. And to see the greatest of evils take place, all he needs do is... nothing.

[@Comuniity_]

I mean nah, what use does Mystra, a goddess thats more powerful then Karsus was even after her rebirth and the nerf that csme along with that. She has no use for the crown, giving it to her ensures no one can use it again

[@ballistic199]

It baffles me how on the face of it, Raphael makes a lot of sense in this monologue…and I get that is the entire point of his character; charm and manipulation incarnate. So many people talk about their favorite characters, and so many stand out above others…but honestly at the end of the day. Raphael is one magnificent B*stard.

[@ULTRAOutdoorsman]

This would be a pretty good premise for a Baldur's Gate 4 tbh

[@Penamesolen]

So fun fact, my Tav, Sharin, did not do the House of Hope, and accidentally angered the Emperor so he left. We were alone and Raphael came and offered the deal one last time. Sharin accepted, knowing that her soul would be his if she did not give him the Crown of Karsus, and then volunteered to become illithid. After the battle, she had Gale get the Crown to Mystra, then killed herself as she sensed that she was losing herself. Her idea, of course, was that illithids do not have souls, they lose their souls, so by doing this, when she went against the contract, there would be no soul for Raphael to pick up. Then comes the post-death scene where Withers is like "seems I was wrong, you kept your soul after all", which was panic-inducing for me... And then this scene came. And while it is clearly meant to be for a PC that is alive, since Sharin was dead her soul was delivered to Raphael, with no live body to return to. So... that sucked XD It will definetely give her some extra character if a DLC post-MSQ ever happens, though.

[@leyrua]

Yeah, Withers claiming that illithids have no souls struck me as a dangerous assumption. Convenient if true, but in a world with so many awful things that can happen after death, it's probably best not to assume that you are now exempt from them. 😬 But yes, my character was the same. The potential destruction of his soul was seen as nothing but an absolute win.

[@ChamesLiverpool]

Does anyone have footage of this?

[@Penamesolen]

@@ChamesLiverpool Of Withers claiming the things with souls? If you become a mind flayer and then kill yourself with the dialogue choice at the end, you get the scene where he admits he is wrong about mind flayers lacking souls. For the part where he first tells you about that, you must speak with him after the Arc 2 final boss before going toward Baldur's Gate.

[@MayHugger]

Sounds like Raphael figured you would try that and did some big boy devil fuckery.

[@flambleue3195]

I was about to write a comment but then i read yours

[@wilsmif]

This scene feels like he’s gonna tell me to wake up and smell the ashes

[@MegaCrazyhand]

"Do you really think the crown is safer in the hands of Mystra instead of in the claws of a devil?" My man, it was stolen from the claws of a devil to begin with and then we broke into your house and stole more of your shit. I didn't see anyone pull that on Mystra during the game. I'm trusting Mystra over you lol

[@parafoxl7619]

Love the way he says ITS THE GOOOODS

[@fluffernal]

bro's trying so hard to be intimidating

[@ii3lazelordz267]

On god. I always jump him in his house of hope. No clue why he tries being scary as if he was an Archduke of hell or something

[@Lugon-Hirn]

​@@ii3lazelordz267because his daddy is Mephistopheles and he think that he is as strong and smart that his father He is just an edgelord that has daddy issues

[@jasonbrewer6714]

@@Lugon-Hirn True, but in reality he's just a half devil. who is terrible in bed.

[@nairazak_art]

Amusement suuuuure, he fears being killed when he tries to collect your soul.

[@aegisScale]

You see, what he said is Infernal for "I have every right to take your soul, but if I tried that you could very well cause my skull and my pelvis to violently switch places"

[@aproxy7263]

cope and seethe Raphael, cope and seethe

[@DriftScale]

What raph and karlach be saying makes me think theres gonna be an avernus dlc

[@pixelpantsplay]

please oh please oh please

[@Vasilefs_Terranorum]

He’s not wrong. The gods cannot be trusted. Many in the game express this sentiment. Kethric Thorm, Gale, Shadowheart (after she’s freed from Shar), Minthara etc.

[@jamharry836]

In Forgotten Realms many can be trusted, like Bahamut helping a paladin/king retake their kingdom from a lich, Eilistraee redeeming the drow etc. Weirdly enough that includes Mystra despite her portrayal in the game. She was once on trial for being too kind and would only protect and gift magic to good aligned wizards, hence she was forced to take the hands off approach.

[@Vasilefs_Terranorum]

@@jamharry836 Perhaps. I don't actually know much about DnD lore outside of BG3 but just going off of the game gives a very poor impression of the gods. Many come across as callous and self-centered at best and simply malevolent at worst. Plus, coming from 40k, I am predisposed to viewing any deity with hostility anyway.

[@Veridiano02]

@@Vasilefs_Terranorum Yeah, well, this is not 40k mate. In DnD there good and trustworthy gods. Mystra is one of them. The neutral/chaotic good kind of goddess. She does weird things, which include dying two or three times. She loves enigmas, riddles and shit. In BG3 she even confesses the entire "make Gale blow up" was actually a riddle for Gale to become someone worthy of his gifted talent with magic. Plus, Gale kind of played with Netherese magic. That's not a thing mortals should play with. For the safety on the entire material plane XD. Plus plus, Sêlune doesn't even appear (and it was Shar the one who killed Ketheric's daughter and made him turn to her embrace), but Sêlune is also good and trustworthy. Shadow "served" Shar and Minthara served Lolth, those are both goddess very, very evil. Shar is lawfull evil and Lolth Chaotic evil, and the reason elves are actually mortal.

[@Jdjdjdujakzgsha]

Most of the gods shown in this game are evil. Bane Bhaal Myrkul Shar Lolth Mystra is forced to act the way she does (though the game doesn’t mention that so I don’t blame you for thinking she’s bad) The game gives no screen time to the actual good gods.

[@shaktosh524]

Most of the gods shown in this game are evil, and they are more likely to appear just to gloat at the player of how powerless they are and yada yada yada like Shar does should Shadowheart turn on her. Mystra is neutral which is why she can be shady to some, but she's nowhere as bad as the Dead Three (especially Bhaal). When you pray to a god in the Stormshore Tabernacle, it pretty much shoves at your face a small list of benevolent gods.

[@flyingwhale157]

I got this cutscene on my evil dark urge run. I signed the contract, than went and killed raphael in house of hope. At the end i either claimed it in name of Bhaal, or did save faerun and Bhaal possessed me. (I tried four possible endings to that run so not sure which one was it). Somehow despite raphael being dead, it was a nice surprise as i finally saw a raphael ending. The items on house of hope are irresistible.

[@eagleflies5281]

I honestly believe the crown is safe in mystra's hands

[@AndyMacster]

It's so true to Rafael's character that he'd see you make this choice and return fire by planting a seed of doubt in your head. When you face him in the house of hope after denying a contract with him, you're met as a cruel fool who could have saved the realms, but chose to be selfish instead. He wants you to feel that you've betrayed your cause, because he can only see your cause from his own perspective; you're a puppet whose purpose is to perform in his orchestrated and wondrous plan. He writes so passionately about how much he obsesses over you intricate & intriguing adventurers. Here, he plants yet another seed when put on the back foot, because it is not destruction of oneself that heroes fear, it's the destruction of your purpose, and those you sought to save. This is what he wants. He wants you to doubt, unravel and feel desperate and pathetic, much like he must have felt by weaving such a masterful plan resulting in you saving the world, and him reigning the hells with the Crown, only to have you fearlessly betray your dealings with him for the greater good. You showed him he to be powerless in his own meticulously orchestrated plans, so in the end he wants nothing more than to see you lose your faith. But he can't do that until you believe you were the problem all along, and it's you who doomed Faerun to oblivion. That's just my take on it, but I really do adore the writing in BG3 😅

[@JohnSmith-ls3um]

Love the Raphael fight music in the background.

[@wolfVFV]

I agree with raphael Expect mystra is the one exception to the rule. She is the strongest god because she controls the weave, her whole beeing is keeping the weave intact and stable. Which benefits everyone as if the weave breakes cataclysm is inevitable

[@ellyann4603]

She is not the strongest, Ao is an overGod (the name is self explanatory) and he forbid Gods to intervene in mortals affairs. The crown could be a problem in the wrong hands (like gods of death... why did they never use the crown themselves? that's a mystery I guess). Anyway I agree the crown is better in Mystra's hands.

[@SergioMendoza760]

I really hope we get DLC for this game. I just really want to see more of it, and more of these characters. While this adventure is over there is so so so so so so much more they could explore considering how big the world of Faerun is.

[@lordjeebusiii408]

Raphael giving a well articulated speech: Me: *having abused the shit out of the tap of rejuvenating waters walking up to him with a party of 15 ready tojump him*

[@magicalpj]

He's not ALL wrong about gods in general. But Mystra really, REALLY does not need that crown to further any particular plan she may have.

[@peterhurst6782]

"it is not the devils, but the gods who sunder, wreck and ruin." My man, BGDIA literally JUST happened. I get the general argument (the gods of Faerun are fucked up) but its weird to say that after one of the most horrific tragedies in FR history was a month or so ago and specifically caused by Devils XD

[@tomjack1000000]

0:45 Yes, 100% yes. The worst she will do is die and someone else take it.

[@omargerardolunamorales217]

This Man doesnt understand two things, no matter if he has or not the crown he will never defeat Asmodeus because for first instance Asmodeus have the Ruby Rod, an artifact that has a small fragment of the shard of pure evil, the shard of pure evil is probably the most powerful of evil artifacts it was created so long ago by the demons, specially Ancient demons called Obyriths, the rest of the shard Is literally still creating the Abyss, and most of the shard's power was absorbed by the most dangerous and powerful villan in all D&D, Tharizdun the mad God, the second thing is that there is no way the nine hells win the blood war, the Abyss is literally infinite and corrupts everything, also there are only like 4 Demon Lords financing the blood war, the rest do not care for the war, but well in the end Raphael is a nepobabie that has no idea how the hell or the Abyss works.

[@The2BlackWings]

It is all correct, but remember that neither all hells are sending troops for the blood war. Just the layer of avernus is fighting constantly. Also, the war is stagnating just because archduke Zavriel is a gigantic moron and doesn't know how to guide properly her troops in battle. When Bel, the best general on hells, was the archduke of avernus replacing Zariel, in 3.5 manuals, the devils were "winning" the war, since they were slowly and gradually advancing through the lower planes. Asmodeus probably doesn't want to win the war, and when he had the opportunity he replaced Bel to Zariel again. I think he just want the war to stalemate, and maintain the balance between law and chaos.

[@omargerardolunamorales217]

@@The2BlackWings That may be correct, but most likely doesnt really want the balance between law and chaos, but some people do not know that Asmodeus made a deal with a Demon, this will definitely destroy his reputation in the nine hells, this Demon in particular is Pazuzu that in secret is an Obyrith Demon but he knows how to adapt to look like a Ta'nari, this Demon Lord is the same one who convinced Tharizdun to use the shard of pure evil, although Tharizdun ended up betraying him, but to the main topic, Pazuzu and Asmodeus have a secret agreement that nobody really knows what happen but both of them are wining things in the blood war.

[@amyelnah8717]

​​@@The2BlackWings ironically, the Blood War is keeping things stable and possible for the Hells to be as they are now lol. It gives devils an excuse for making contracts and taking souls so the gods don't stop it, while keeping them somewhat occupied so they don't dare seriously advance on other realms. It's Raphael's plan of overthrowing Asmodeus, ending the Blood War and beginning a conquest across the planes that would ironically doom him, if he doesn't already get annihilated as soon as he's done with Avernus which he definitely will.

[@geraldposter1496]

I'd say the biggest threat to any plans Raphael has is that asmodeus isn't doing anything about it. He's the biggest schemer in hell, every devil including Rachael's dad wants his position and he always keeps it. Nothing happens in hell without him knowing. If he isn't actively sabotaging Rachael's goals it's either because even with the crown he's no threat, or asmodeus is playing 4d chess around him to make it work to his benefit.

[@crim1188]

Small nitpick but obiryths arent demons. Thhey predate them to an absurd degree.

[@legoman7041]

Raphael is basically choking on facts and logic in this one. @AvernusScrubquotes

[@fleur_mabre]

Funny how Raphael thinks Crown will make him powerful enough to compete with other devils. Like if a Crown is a game changer his devil papa would use it already and not keep it under the pile in his vault for centuries 😂

[@mulqueen2023]

I can genuinely imagine Raphael ordering a bunch of his debtors about the camera movements and looking over their shoulders as they edit it, giving little critiques 😆

[@N7MD-VV]

Voice acting 10/10 🔥

[@artistofcybertron]

If they make BG4 Raphael needs to play a bigger role. Definitely set up for more main antagonist energy. CANNOT WAIT.

[@NeroWesten]

I’ve only beat it once so far. And got this ending. I was confused because I was sure I killed him.

[@ULTRAOutdoorsman]

That's how games of the year are these years, the one ending you do get is bugged to hell

[@GhalanSmokeScale]

By all accounts, he could take your soul here. You're in breach of contract, so your soul is his. But no, he's not taking it. Basically he's letting you off without consequence, simply because he knows he'll enjoy it more if he can watch you suffer the consequences of your actions, whatever those would be.

[@Sydistic]

He mentions that the gods instigated this crisis, neglecting to mention that they were originally human

[@sangdraxis]

Actually the crown is super useful to mystra. The karseweave dates back to the time of Mystra's predecessor Mylstryl. When karses folly happened, Mylstryl sacrificed herself. The first thing her successor Mystra did when taking over, was to Nerf the Weave, so no other mortal could pull the same bs. So, in theory, the crown should power her up to Mylstryls level

[@fonandoozmando5961]

While it is true that the gods instigated most of the catastrophes in the realms, Mystra/myrtrara has always been neutral and a protector to the weave. She never meddles into the affairs of the material realm, including telling her chosens not to stop the strongest being on faerun (a CR50 dracolich) from studying and reaching its potential

[@timlwry]

Raphael seething

[@GoodNight0wl]

It almost sounds like Raphael actually likes you considering he just lets you off the hook.

[@raph3699]

I got this ending in my first play through.

[@airena1449]

At some point I was jamming so hard to the soundtrack I wanted to say to Raphael to repeat that again lmao

[@iniabifreely2352]

If he does not get the crown: Yeah well actually gods are worse than devils I would have dealt with you fairly If he does get the crown: I'm going to start conquering, see you soon

[@KWCHope]

This is amazing

[@kadirr8974]

Well he does have a point: Gods mostly cause turmoil in the realms.

[@pyechos]

im not going any further in the video cuz no spoilers, but at 0:22 i'm glad you can chose to give the crown to Mystra

[@thepostaldude2217]

That speech about gods is also applicable to real life, only instead of the gods its the people who follow them

[@Ianassa91]

I took the deal, never attempted to get rid of the deal, I never got the chance to even give the Crown to Raphael. When was I supposed to do it? I got this ending, had no clue this was supposed to be a rare one.

[@LutherMahoney]

Andrew Wincott has the perfect voice.

[@159428673]

I would love to see my own face when raphael apears to say this spetch, i was truly scared of my ass

[@kyltredragmire4939]

Raphael acting like I gave the crown to Gale as an act of kindness. Nah man, I gave the crown to Gale just to piss you off ya egotistical stalker!

[@tejendrachettri5970]

Raphael is just a giant baby. Man has never changed and throws a glorified tantrum when he doesnt get what he wants lmao.

[@Blazieth]

Doesn't even follow through with consequences for breaking your deal with him. Dude knows he can't ****in' touch Tav (or whoever you're playing as). "Bitch, we just killed an ELDER BRAIN, the **** you think YOU'RE gonna do?"

[@goldenpony822]

Arent narcissists the same

[@zikkimeister215]

Hes the devil, he lives on deals and the smallprint. He loves nothing more than having control over a situation and the moment you take it from him, you hurt him more than karlach with her giant axe in his home when the 4 statues are broken

[@_nameless_2607]

See, I got this ending but I was fully planning on giving him the crown... Gale just has an addiction to magic items

[@kingofsting19]

Bro's definitely coping (and lying ofc, "I would have dealt fairly with you" lol) but there's interesting potential in his words. The idea of the Crown of Karsus unlocking some new domain to her divine portfolio that makes her less benevolent, maybe not even of her own volition, but simply because of how the "Karsite Weave" interacts negatively with her? Food for thought.

[@evamuhlhause]

He's so damn slick.

[@tyrant-den884]

"Portfolio" may be a deep cut. Have divine portfolios been a thing since 3ed's Dirties and Demigods book?

[@josephsarna2697]

I got this cutscene by mistake. I defeated him in the hells and still got this scene on one of my playthroughs

[@jwc7215]

LIVES!!!

[@isleofdead1337]

Tf is bro?! Just in the void delivering a monologue?

[@drewg.4487]

Oh buddy big feelings.

[@thecharredbranch]

Oh this is very interesting... Makes me wonder though what happens when you also become illithid yourself. Since that way your soul is said to be destroyed, Raphael's words about doing something to it would be meaningless, making me ponder if there is something else he says.

[@goisles6728]

It is the gods that cause all our problems! - A devil manipulated and trapped Wyll - A devil enslaved Karlach for centuries - A Lich Queen (Vlaakith isn’t a god, just stupid powerful) treated Lae’zel as disposable - Gale brought it upon himself, frankly - Shar admittedly ruined Shadowheart’s life, but Shar ≠ Mystra - Durge’s dad is Bhaal, and again, Bhaal ≠ Mystra. Unless Raphael is specifically talking about strictly evil gods, he’s just wrong. Which makes me like him a lot more as a villain, he’s charismatic enough to make you briefly forget he’s not to be trusted.

[@MissChambersxo]

Tbf he is right. Likely Cyril comes and steals the Crown lol

[@OanBinHaseeb]

I really want Moander in the future Larian games.

[@BadRobot01]

Dubass soon forgot who kicked his ass and trashed his house

[@WingXCustom]

He's not wrong

[@monicabellu9566]

As long as Mystra doesn't change cameras so much I'm fine with it, and I hate Mystra, please, Raphael, I know you love yourself, but pick an angle already!

[@dmallad1]

I never got this cutscene because I didn’t make a legit deal with him and went straight to get the crown. But on my new playthrough I definitely want to see this. BG3 created what I believe is a true villain. Charming but deceitful. Tactical and clever. I love it. 😍

[@Raven-zj1ps]

I can never get this cutscene because all my playthroughs I face him. Can't bypass that boss fight. Epic.

[@JoshSweetvale]

You can feel the Peter Stormare.

[@TurboNemesis]

Devilman Crybaby salty that he didnt get his tendies Hold that shit, raphael 😂

[@skywaveprime2257]

Mystra aka lady shar

[@m16dude967]

Me: "Hell unified will do the same damn thing"

[@Rock_Sirloin]

Cope and seethe Raphael !

[@tutubakaanime]

I got this ending as bug. I'm pretty sure it's been fixed now but before even if you killed Raphael this cut scene would appear. I was so confused tbh when it happened because everyone had mentioned when you kill a Devil in the Hell's you kill them for good.

[@nerilei29]

I think Mystra will make sure the crown is safe and won't do anything bad. She is good goddess and she is not stupid, she knows the consequences. Despite this, I really like these final monologues from Raphael. In a polite and refined way, he tries to shows how angry he is that the situation didn't resolve as he wanted. He even tries to scare the player and convince him that he made the wrong decision. Rapahel is a narcissist, but an intelligent narcissist, but when he is helpless and defeated, he says such words. He shouldn't be trusted, but I really like his character, he's well written and acted, I wish there were more scenes with him in the game.

[@faselfasel2864]

Mystra is neutral in the purest meaning of the word. She wants magic to prosper and she doesnt care if that magic is used for good or for evil. Her having the crown might just mean that she will give it to her next best chosen/champion, who she feels can further her cause of spreading magic. One of the biggest threats to Faerun, Daurgatoth "The creeping Doom" - is a Chosen of Mystra. Even though he is incredibly evil. Mystra doesnt care, because he furthers magical research.

[@BarkerNoNotThatOne]

@@faselfasel2864 She's LN, she will therefore likely be a stable person to hand it to. Compared to Raphael, who sets out to do world domination, she will likely not allow it out for fear of creating a rival.

[@beepbeep8489]

cataclysm confirmed :D

[@Deinomimus]

That's sore loser talk, buddy.

[@surgeofgaming6405]

The sad thing is that Raphael might be correct. Unless you went to Sorcerous Sundries and found the book Gale was after. You will not learn of the Crowns true origin and the fact that Karsus’s three treasures all operate on a completely different Weave from Mystra and Shar. It is a bottomless jug that feeds and consumes Magic Ad Infinitum. Mystra CANNOT be allowed to use the crown at all because she is the Weave herself, it would either obliterate her or consume her and the weave. Creating a cataclysm Far Greater and more Horrifying than the Spell Plague that Transported the entire Dragonborn City to Faerun, and created the new generation of Wild Magic Sourcerers, and killed millions across the multiverse. Mystra can only hope that leaving it in her domain, TheWeave, will simply keep the treasures fed for all eternity.

[@blistertooth]

I was so confused when I got this because I definitely killed him to break my contract.

[@BaalFridge]

I hate that he's not wrong... First time bad stuff happened to a goddess of magic we needed a whole new goddess of magic and when that one stopped being alive for a few minutes because of her crazy ex (not you Gale, you're not that special lmao) the universe almost collapsed again. Like seriously I think Ao should probably remove "magic" from the list of available portfolios 😅

[@martakarolinazmyslowska6903]

Idk but he could right somehow.

[@oroontheheels]

Really dunno what to do with the crown. I hate Mythra, but I don’t want Gale to became god, and I don’t trust Raphael. Hurhurhur decisions, decisions…

[@MayHugger]

I feel like Gale is the safest bet, he becomes arrogant and up his ass, but still trustworthy as an ally.

[@oroontheheels]

@@MayHugger I feel the same way, but then it makes Tara sad :,(

[@MayHugger]

@@oroontheheels Fuck it, give to dear old Auntie Ethel then.

[@oroontheheels]

@@MayHugger she’s the true queen who deserve the crown 100%

[@Comuniity_]

I just dont see what use Mystra, an already extremely poweful goddess mkre poweful then Karsus in his 5 seconds of godhood, which iirc was more to do with a level 12 spell then the crown. Giving it to her is the best option if you want to prevent the Crown being used at all, even if mystra is a bit of a dick

[@CrazyKeven3000]

bro yaps a lot for a mere cambion

[@feralast7027]

lol I never leave this guy alive his loot is too awesome.

[@Ronnet]

So this is not really a rare cutscene as those that betrayed and killed him also get the cutscene. Not sure if its a bug or just Raphaels ego being larger than life (and death).

[@christopherjones5700]

you can knock raphael out?????