Betruger, Valen, Khan Maykr, Olivia Pierce | The False Promises of Hell - Doom Lore

[@Eric_Nomad_Hixtone]

Well, demons DO have some sense of honour. The demonic tree prophecy they tell about how cool Olivia is and that hee transformation is cool toо, they actually gave her a statue and Betruger has gotten a castle named after him. So returning son as an Icon a Sin, is their twisted mind IS a good thing. What's greater than becoming a monster of great power? Even in the artbook where they described Lucifer's Bane or SSG w Meathook, they mentioned some sort of discipline. So demons are very odd creatures. They're so cruel that hatred filled is everything they touch, even their "society" and their sense of "this is good" is full of violence.

[@shreksnow1918]

I really like how they made different believable reasons for people to join with demons. In a way it reminds me of how in 40K you can benefit from joining Chaos if you have something good to offer in return. Or they’ll trick you into joining by taking advantage of your horrible lot in life. I personally wish we could’ve had a sequel to Doom 3 that refines the sandbox and builds on its foundations. For whatever reason I don’t have much interest in the original or newer games because I prefer Doom 3’s slower pace, dark atmosphere, and HEAVY Half-Life influence. Although, I’m willing to admit the current direction is what the brand needed (I’m sure you’ve heard about how Doom 1/2 are now bundled together, they’ll get enhancements, mods on console, and how Eternal is getting mod support/tools).

[@joshuabrown1864]

Wonderful as ever, my friend. Fantastic!

[@Arrokotth736]

I love that MISSING FLYNN TAGERT poster, cool reference. Great video as always

[@Woodyisasexybeast]

Thanks for noticing. I custom made that for the video lol

[@arthurdumontiv1989]

This is a really good video man

[@ratsbutmore5984]

Delightful

[@BlackMesa_Coomer345]

Now please please PLEASE do halo 3 on legendary withouth killing grunts

[@shreksnow1918]

In the past you mentioned possibly making a video discussing the rumors about the CE Unreal engine 5 remake. But, were having second thoughts because it would take a while, and by then the topic would’ve been done to death. If done right that could be truly phenomenal, but I have VERY little faith in them doing it justice since 343 clearly have no idea what they’re doing (from what I’ve heard even under the new leadership MCC is plagued with cheaters and still has numerous issues. Infinite’s store is also horrifically overpriced and they still haven’t added more weapons/vehicles to better flesh out the game). The ideal team to make it would be comprised of various devs who worked on the original and various modders/passionate fans. I’ve defended them in the past, and like various things they’ve done. But, 343 clearly shouldn’t be in charge of Halo. For my idealized version of this remake I’d want the story to be like the Resident Evil/Dead Space remakes where it’s mostly faithful aside from fixing issues with the original, incorporate extended universe stuff that didn’t exist at the time, and tie things in with later lore. For gameplay I’d want it to be like Ruby’s Rebalanced where it refines the sandbox, backports features/aspects from future titles where appropriate, reintroduces cut content in a way that’s natural and enhances the sandbox, and makes small alterations to the level design/enemy encounters to enhance the gameplay (that mod is the definitive version of the game). It would also be interesting to see cut levels/plot points added into the game to better flesh out the story (if you haven’t seen the developer commentary for CE/2 you really should. It was funny seeing Marty, Jason, and Joe simultaneously roast and praise their own game. They also talked about certain things that were cut, and it was abundantly clear by the way they talked about the games that towards the end the narrative was stitched together with what little was actually complete in terms of the levels that were actually complete). If they were to make any major changes to the game I’d want a complete overhaul of levels like The Library (make it like the original plan where it was a big corkscrew going down where you could see your goal with Flood jumping up and down the “floors”. I’d also want them to throw in several Covenant squads to break up the repetitive encounters), and Two Betrayals (set it at a different part of the Ring. I’m perfectly fine with The Maw and Keyes reusing level geometry because there’s actually a narrative reason to go back there and the Flood change how they’re played. Two Betrayals on the other hand had NO REASON to have us retread the longest level with various repeated sections. Ruby’s Rebalanced does a good job of making it feel fresh, but even then I would’ve preferred that we went to a different part of the Ring). I’d also want mini campaigns based on stuff from The Flood book, that Johnson comic, and Fireteam Raven. For the multiplayer I’d want stuff like crossplay, Forge on par with Infinite (multiplayer bots/campaign ai, scripting, and a wide array of pieces to customize the maps to your heart’s content), and keep it mostly faithful aside from throwing in more content (maps, weapons, vehicles). This is all assuming that it’s actually real. Again, if handled correctly this could be an AMAZING experience. But, I’m VERY skeptical about this given the current state of Halo. It’s one of those things where we’ll have to wait and see. What kind of stuff would you want to see in what could very well be a purely hypothetical scenario?

[@Woodyisasexybeast]

If a remake was made, all that you’ve said would be ideal. In fact, most of those concepts were in a script that I wrote when the rumor first started circulating.

[@shreksnow1918]

That’s interesting that you also had a lot of the same ideas. Do you think you’ll make a video about the rumored CE remake, or are you still iffy on it? I remember you saying you weren’t sure about making that video due to a combination of the topic being done to death by others, and by the time you finished said video it might not even be relevant. A CE remake that’s mostly faithful aside from restoring cut content, incorporating extended universe material, and making small adjustments to improve the sandbox is definitely what the brand needs since faith in the IP is at an all time low. Have you been able to get MCC working on your computer, or is it still not functioning? Hopefully, you were able to get that sorted out. Maybe, you could get either a Steam Deck or one of its competitors. Or are you not really interested in handheld gaming PCs? My Steam Deck LCD has been serving me really well, and I recently got a refurbished Lenovo gaming laptop and got help setting it up/upgrading it. So far it works really well (need to figure out how to emulate all the PS2/3 games I’m interested in like Resistance, LittleBigPlanet, Ratchet and Clank, and others). I’ll still use the Xbox for physical games/backwards compatibility. Another dumb question I have is have you ever played Xcom or the various games inspired by it? Mario Rabbids was my gateway drug to that genre and what I’ve played of Gears Tactics on GamePass was a lot of fun. I bought Xcom Enemy Unknown/Xcom 2 and the original games they’re based on. So far they’re really fun. Too bad we likely won’t get an Xcom style Halo. Thankfully, there’s a classic X-com Halo mod that looks pretty cool (still have to play the originals before I delve into the mods).

[@Woodyisasexybeast]

@shreksnow1918 I wrote a script for it but it has since fallen to the wayside. I don’t currently have any plans to release it as a video. For one, I’m too busy working on a Halo bestiary and for two, like I previously stated, it wouldn’t be a very original concept. I’m not sure I really have anything to contribute to the conversation. Besides, the bestiary video has sucked up pretty much all of my video making time. It’s a massive one and I can’t quite see the light at the end of the tunnel yet. The script is written and I’ve started post production but that shit takes ages, so no ETA. I believe I have access to MCC on steam now but I haven’t gotten around to installing it yet. Xbox is still my preferred way to play games, mostly because of ease of use and the fact that I’m deeply entrenched in the ecosystem. I have tons of achievements and digital games. I’ve never played Xcom. The little bit of experience I have with strategy games like that has always kind of turned me off. I find it very uninteresting. I’d be willing to give it a try anyways. I find that I like most things if left to ruminate on them a bit. I’m a big fan of the Gears series and have been meaning to give Tactics a go for quite some time but never got around to it.

[@shreksnow1918]

@Woodyisasexybeast Makes sense. That bestiary video will definitely be interesting. I also saw in the comments talking with someone else about possibly making a Didact video that would go into his life, and how he’s a tragic character who had so little agency that there were times that he didn’t truly have free will. Something that’s good about Steam is it has native support for connecting an Xbox controller through Bluetooth, and a lot of the games are compatible with one. I also get what you’re saying about Xbox being your preferred platform and having a bunch of stuff on it. Although, I almost never buy digitally on consoles. I prefer disks. So what exactly is it about those kinds of games that you’re not a fan of? For the longest time I avoided those types of games since I’m not a fan of turn based combat. Those are one of the exceptions because there’s freedom of movement and you’re not just selecting through a menu like a jrpg. I like how it makes you think about your surroundings and be careful about where you put your guys. From what I’ve played of Gears Tactics it’s pretty good and does a phenomenal job of translating it from one medium to another. Although, I’ve heard that after a certain point most people jump ship since there’s problems with the progression system and mission variety. Do you have similar opinions about rts games where you’re not really a fan of them in most cases? I’ve been a fan of rts games for a long time. The first one I’ve played was this Lego Mars Mission Flash game. It’s not particularly deep and both factions are just reskins of each other, but I had a lot of fun with it. I also enjoyed Halo Wars 1/2, but after playing more advanced games in the genre I now really they aren’t good rts games because they’re VERY bare bones due to console/controller limitations (keyboard and mouse is the superior control system since you can add sign units into groups you pull up with hotkeys, you have a higher level of precision to micromanage your army, and you can also give commands for your guys to patrol and area). HW2 is the better game since it has more depth and seems to have gotten the most out of the node building system, but it’s still held back by the Xbox controller. Too bad HW2 is stuck on the Microsoft store and neither game has proper mod support like MCC does. There’s various mods for the first game that back port the best HW2 features over, add more units and factions, and add more depth to the game. They give us a glimpse into how the game could’ve been if it wasn’t shackled by the console, Bungie wasn’t cancer and slowed down development, and if Ensemble actually had all hands on deck during development.

[@Woodyisasexybeast]

@shreksnow1918 yeah, the bestiary will be really cool and is a format I’d like to explore in a bunch of other fictional universes besides Halo. I’m already contemplating doing ones for DOOM, Quake, Dead Space, Fallout and Alien. The Didact video is merely an idea at the moment. I’m afraid to tackle that one because 95% of it lacks visuals which makes editing a pain. I basically have to make stuff up and that can be very tricky. I also know it’d be pretty damn long. His story is spread out across A LOT of written word. I’d basically have to re-read the entire Forerunner trilogy and Epitaph, taking notes the whole way to get it done. It’s not out of the question, it’s just a commitment I haven’t been willing to make just yet. I use steam when I have to. I played Spider-Man and the Monkey Island games on my PC recently. I’ve started getting my in game clips from MCC on PC as well because the Xbox has a god awful bug that keeps an occurring. For whatever reason, I can’t record anything until i perform a factory reset on my console. It’s unbelievably frustrating, so I’m trying to cut it out of my work flow entirely. It’s been happening for a long time now and unfortunately, Microsoft doesn’t seem too keen on fixing whatever is causing it. I’ve lost track of how many times I’ve reset the damn thing. It doesn’t take a super long time to do but having to sign back in to all of my services every single time is very annoying. It’s the turn based combat for me. I don’t like the lack of freedom or being forced to sit there and watch as I get my ass kicked 🤷‍♂️. On top of that, I think I’ve only ever played bad ones so my experience with the genre is not great. Namely, Adventure Time: Pirates of the Enchiridion. Fantastic universe, horrible game. I’m not too big on RTS games either, which is probably why the Halo Wars games work for me.