Huge New Findings About Doom's Graphics

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@PeterLawrenceYT
@PeterLawrenceYT 3 ай бұрын
I wonder how the artist felt when they cropped the hell out of the SSG reload animation.
@T-West
@T-West 3 ай бұрын
And didn't crop that brown pixel...
@peabrain6872
@peabrain6872 3 ай бұрын
@@T-Westwhat
@BaeYeou
@BaeYeou 3 ай бұрын
@@T-West The brown pixel gives the SSG animation CHARACTER >:V
@Tottally-real-demoman
@Tottally-real-demoman 3 ай бұрын
​@@doodsepik exactly.
@Gamingniqqa
@Gamingniqqa 3 ай бұрын
Of course you do 😂😂😂😂
@cheezkid2689
@cheezkid2689 3 ай бұрын
It's sick that they actually have so much of this stuff from the early 90s. So many things like this have been lost to time, whether it be hard drive corruptions, accidental overrides, lost/damaged discs, or just forgetting that you have that stuff on a certain drive and selling it or throwing it away or reformatting it. So much video game history has been completely lost due to human or computer error, so it's really nice seeing that so much of this has survived.
@DogsRNice
@DogsRNice 3 ай бұрын
A lot of companies do actually keep this kind of stuff like Nintendo, it's just never seen by anyone else because they're so secretive
@mikeg2491
@mikeg2491 3 ай бұрын
@@DogsRNicethen you have Squaresoft who just deleted all the Final Fantasy 7 assets because, we don’t want to burn a few DVD-Rs that costs money
@qu1253
@qu1253 3 ай бұрын
Well, it doesn't help that game companies in general don't care about preservation and actively attack efforts to preserve old games.
@recklesflam1ngo968
@recklesflam1ngo968 3 ай бұрын
@@mikeg2491 We could've actually got proper FF8 and Chrono Cross remasters if they didn't delete all of their source code/materials..... Instead, with FF8 we got a terrible port that had to be half reverse engineer fromm scratch, and Chrono Cross is basically a custom emulator that injects some HD assets.
@tomasrivero6423
@tomasrivero6423 3 ай бұрын
​@@DogsRNicenintendo as a company is full of absolute paranoid psychos when it comes to unreleased stuff
@MarphitimusBlackimus
@MarphitimusBlackimus 3 ай бұрын
This new Doom 1+2 release also undoes the Super Shotgun muzzle flash timing fix. Who out there would be crazy enough to willingly play the game with this error!?
@FahmiZFX
@FahmiZFX 3 ай бұрын
Finally, someone can attempt Director's Cut.
@Apathesis0
@Apathesis0 3 ай бұрын
Explain? You mean it is out of sync with the sound?
@Kevin-jb2pv
@Kevin-jb2pv 3 ай бұрын
​@@Apathesis0the muzzle flash lingers for a frame too long in the OG animation and clips through the end of the SSG barrel.
@Treblaine
@Treblaine 3 ай бұрын
It's been 30 years and Doom 2 is finally playable.
@elecman748
@elecman748 3 ай бұрын
​@@Kevin-jb2pvliterally unplayable
@GermanPeter
@GermanPeter 3 ай бұрын
It's really interesting how the marine from Doom 3 looks a lot like the black-haired Doomguy at 0:43. Unsurprising when you consider how much of Doom 3 was based on cut content like the Doom Bible. And while we're on the topic, maybe those spiked balls at 5:50 are the cut "probjectile".
@LOLMGS
@LOLMGS 3 ай бұрын
The spiked balls could just be an early version of the rockets front side perhaps.
@matthewsteele99
@matthewsteele99 3 ай бұрын
i saw that black hair and INSTANTLY thought Ubermutant from Spear of Destiny
@unoriginalperson72
@unoriginalperson72 3 ай бұрын
Man is lined up, square cut
@RachDarastrix2
@RachDarastrix2 3 ай бұрын
The Doom universe has its own Bible?
@christianjonker8181
@christianjonker8181 3 ай бұрын
@@RachDarastrix2 doom bible refers to the creative document and world building of the doom universe.
@Kensuke0987
@Kensuke0987 3 ай бұрын
1:05 - I like the fact at one point, Doomguy's health was tied to his hairdo like, there isn't even any blood between the first two levels
@novaseer
@novaseer 3 ай бұрын
as a guy with long hair that's just a reality of life tbh
@bruhtholemew
@bruhtholemew 3 ай бұрын
His JFMSU meter
@NiCoNiCoNiCola
@NiCoNiCoNiCola 3 ай бұрын
It is kinda weird how in the 3/4 perspective his hair changes completely from one solid cartoony block of hair, to a side parted hairdo
@bobicus7765
@bobicus7765 3 ай бұрын
* gets blasted by an imp * * instantly grows bangs *
@tygonmaster
@tygonmaster 3 ай бұрын
​@@novaseer Same. So damn true.
@PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth
@PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth 3 ай бұрын
I bet that winged imp was replaced by the Cacodemon once they realized how many frames it would require to animate the wings flapping.
@DoomKid
@DoomKid 3 ай бұрын
I love that the community made a very, very similar winged imp on their own many years ago. It was a great idea!
@Neremworld
@Neremworld 3 ай бұрын
It's possible. The Winged Imp was in the original Doom Bible as a flying, fireball-throwing upgrade of the Imp.
@ichimiustin8390
@ichimiustin8390 3 ай бұрын
Yes, by the looks of the static frame we got, it might have had both frames for walking and flying, which would have taken a lot of time to animate. I hope one day someone would create the rest of the sprites based on the one we got. The wings look like the hardest part to me, but they look cooler than the flying imp on realm 667. They are a lot more pointy, and come from the back of the demon rather than the sides
@natesneatstuff8296
@natesneatstuff8296 2 ай бұрын
In hindsight, yh it was probably because the winged imp would've hogged wayy too much disk space at the time, considering they'd need a TON of sprite sheets for each "base" frame for the flapping so it doesn't look completely jank. And then someone decided on Flying Hell Tomatoes.
@VoanHead
@VoanHead 3 ай бұрын
11:45 excuse my shitass handwriting lol Besides that, it’s pretty cool to know that something related to Doom resides in Chicago. It was worth the commute to check it out and later just visit other locations in the city I haven’t been to before.
@Winsane
@Winsane 3 ай бұрын
Do you write "f" by doing a line and a backwards 2?
@VoanHead
@VoanHead 3 ай бұрын
@@Winsane yes
@Winsane
@Winsane 3 ай бұрын
@@VoanHead bless your soul
@TrevorLahey3
@TrevorLahey3 3 ай бұрын
😂 it truly is awful handwriting. It looks like mine if I try to write with my right hand lol. Those f’s are crazy
@VoanHead
@VoanHead 2 ай бұрын
@@TrevorLahey3I’d imagine how my teachers from hs and professors from uni must’ve felt when grading the papers I turned in with dogshit, doctor’s prescription handwriting.
@DeadFishFactory
@DeadFishFactory 3 ай бұрын
4:49 - Me when a driver tries to turn into my lane and it's a one-way street.
@PoutyBun
@PoutyBun 3 ай бұрын
Doomguy getting his owed change back from the cashier
@qu1253
@qu1253 3 ай бұрын
Me when my lane ends without any warning and nobody will let me merge over (seriously, why do Hawaii drivers have to be such massive jerks).
@enderofbarts
@enderofbarts 3 ай бұрын
me waiting at a train crossing when a driver across runs the light before the gate closes
@avantesma1
@avantesma1 3 ай бұрын
Damn, this comment brought a FEELING. It's happened so many times to me. I can't stop laughing.
@vibethecat4194
@vibethecat4194 2 ай бұрын
me when the light is green but as soon as I get close to the lights it immediately switches to red again(istg this only happens when Im in a hurry):
@Malefication
@Malefication 3 ай бұрын
That breakdancing spider mommy broke me, hahaha! The SSG reload looks sick AF without the crop though, shame it got cut.
@MyScorpion42
@MyScorpion42 3 ай бұрын
give her the gold!
@MS-yw3st
@MS-yw3st 3 ай бұрын
I mean, I’ve always wondered what angled rendered death sprites would be like
@LavaCreeperPeople
@LavaCreeperPeople 3 ай бұрын
?
@smileyfacehdle
@smileyfacehdle 3 ай бұрын
mommy?? tf
@CutmanDrawz
@CutmanDrawz 3 ай бұрын
​@@smileyfacehdle Doom 1993 fans haven't got updates in decades they went insane
@Nicocgboy_lindo
@Nicocgboy_lindo 3 ай бұрын
10:52 This is genius WTF.
@Solahrr
@Solahrr 3 ай бұрын
Cacolympics 2024
@jojo0753
@jojo0753 3 ай бұрын
The id vault is such a cool addition. They had no obligation to add it in, but I'm so glad they did.
@karlmehltretter2677
@karlmehltretter2677 3 ай бұрын
Maybe: Now that released it officially, it is copyrighted.
@DanielFerreira-ez8qd
@DanielFerreira-ez8qd 3 ай бұрын
​@@karlmehltretter2677 not how copyright works, this is nothing but good news.
@oBuLLzEyEo1013
@oBuLLzEyEo1013 3 ай бұрын
Actually it is how it works...​@@DanielFerreira-ez8qd
@xnyxiee1784
@xnyxiee1784 3 ай бұрын
Eh, no. So many of the uploaded mods aren't uploaded by the original developers of the mods or wads, and are stolen. It's why you'll find myhouse.wad on it, when it does not work outside of ZDoom. Id can't even do the basic form of moderation to confirm mods are being uploaded by the original creators, why are we praising such a half-assed implementation of a system that's fundamentally flawed?
@dreamer72
@dreamer72 3 ай бұрын
@@xnyxiee1784 They are talking about the unused sprites, no one even brought up the modding section.
@NOLNV1
@NOLNV1 3 ай бұрын
You can see the logic behind the whole dev process here! Potions being simplified a lot because they sre simple health bonuses present in large numbers, the enviro suit not having a helmet because that looks like a guy, and not being too ragged because then it looks unusable, etc etc
@humanharddrive1
@humanharddrive1 3 ай бұрын
The extended super shotgun sprites are such a great addition. i wish the shotgunners actually pumped their guns, and the other chaingunner backpacks are way cooler than the one he got in the end
@KingPBJames
@KingPBJames 3 ай бұрын
I made the shotgunner "pump" his shotgun after shooting by using the idle/walk frames but the actual animation would be so much nicer.
@humanharddrive1
@humanharddrive1 3 ай бұрын
@@KingPBJames yeah...
@none-ofthat7997
@none-ofthat7997 3 ай бұрын
And the full Imp rotation. And the plasma gun. The pistol recoiling. Just about everything would be a great addition!
@humanharddrive1
@humanharddrive1 3 ай бұрын
@@none-ofthat7997 yep
@LeanCake
@LeanCake 3 ай бұрын
10:27 I used to think that was blood on the archives hand in the resurrection animation, I thought putting the blood of the dead demon on his hand was part of the ritual
@thebaseandtriflingcreature174
@thebaseandtriflingcreature174 3 ай бұрын
he puts the blood back in the demon
@andyfriederichsen
@andyfriederichsen 3 ай бұрын
One of the unused pistol frames showed the pistol's slide moving back when fired. The unused plasma sprites look awesome. It looks like ID was thinking about making the plasma projectiles look more like actual plasma at one point.
@doomspud6302
@doomspud6302 3 ай бұрын
It kind of looks like Daedolon's Arc of Death spell in Hexen. I wonder if those unused sprites were the inspiration for that?
@TheFireRed
@TheFireRed 3 ай бұрын
I'm incredibly happy to say I've worked on this game's localization! 25 years ago I went with my mum to pick up PS1 Doom for my youngest uncle, we played a ton and told me about Doom, so working on this has been such a full-circle moment for me. It's amazing and incredibly rewarding to contribute to a franchise that sparked my passion for video games and translation all those years ago.
@decino
@decino 3 ай бұрын
Nice!
@demonjmh
@demonjmh 3 ай бұрын
That's interesting because I was also introduced to doom through an uncle. It was the PS1 version too. Been my favorite game ever since.
@OblivionWalkerVerified
@OblivionWalkerVerified 3 ай бұрын
@@demonjmhps1 doom was the best but disruptor shat all over doom when it was released by insomniac games
@youmukonpaku3168
@youmukonpaku3168 3 ай бұрын
@@demonjmh lol me too, he was babysitting me while mom was out doing something, strict instructions from mom and aunt to only let me play the child-friendly games (being about 4 at the time.) As soon as mom and aunt leave, "hey, you wanna see the good stuff?" Doom blew my mind and got me learning how computers could do that.
@TheOctavian316
@TheOctavian316 2 ай бұрын
@@demonjmh Same here. I was babysat by my uncle a few times, and loved watching him play Doom. Was Doom only released to uncles or something?
@AlyphRat
@AlyphRat 3 ай бұрын
Doom Delta's development team is about to have a field day with all of this
@FunnyBoy-p6f
@FunnyBoy-p6f 3 ай бұрын
Hip, they're gonna eat a god damn buffet, i can't wait to play a los with the alpha demons
@GashimahironChl
@GashimahironChl 3 ай бұрын
aye aye, first thing that came to my mind was "those delta mod guys are probably already going crazy on that stuff" i'm just gonna sit around a little bit and watch the updates they cook up
@Shepardus
@Shepardus 3 ай бұрын
I think the "team" is mostly just DrPyspy, but yes, it's great stuff for Doom Delta.
@edgardeitz5746
@edgardeitz5746 3 ай бұрын
I agree; the "Doom Delta" team has a *lot* of upgrades to make to their mod. And I look forward to downloading that mod... ;)
@internetwizard4922
@internetwizard4922 3 ай бұрын
They cant use the sprites unfortunately
@RogueOmega
@RogueOmega 3 ай бұрын
"For the hanging corpses with the clashing art style, my best guess would be, based on how muscular the torso looks and the fact they definitely used toys to make some of the weapons, that they might have used, like, a G.I. Joe action figure or something, hung it upside down, scanned it, then added the gore manually via editing software." This was the comment I made about the hanging corpse graphic on Decino's "More Interesting Findings About Doom's Graphics" video. I'll admit, I'm surprised I pretty much hit the nail on the head with that.
@SwedishEmpire1700
@SwedishEmpire1700 Ай бұрын
I dunno, look at pics of Mussolini hanging and then the sprites. There is a clear resemblance there.
@rodrigoalves-cg6xv
@rodrigoalves-cg6xv 18 күн бұрын
@@SwedishEmpire1700 Fake news. Stop it
@clegginator1828
@clegginator1828 3 ай бұрын
5:49 I'm guessing the "spiked balls" are just the back end of the rocket without the fire? The "spikes" just being the fins of the rocket itself
@arthurbarros5189
@arthurbarros5189 3 ай бұрын
I was just going to comment they could be debris/shrapnel.
@aelahn
@aelahn 3 ай бұрын
stopped the video for commenting that
@CatsOverdrive
@CatsOverdrive 3 ай бұрын
11:50, and if you managed to touch all three, a pentagram teleporter will suddenly appear beside you!
@Curlyheart
@Curlyheart 3 ай бұрын
I read "beside" as inside
@ForgetfulHatter
@ForgetfulHatter 3 ай бұрын
seeing the proper pain state rotations is as mindblowing as the mod for fallout new vegas that let your diagonal movement be properly animated.
@Timcup448
@Timcup448 3 ай бұрын
0:44 why does he look like gman
@frenchburgur
@frenchburgur 3 ай бұрын
Doom guy in the flesh… or rather in the megaarmor. i took the liberty of relieving you of your weapons, most of them were UAC property, as for the armor… i think you’ve earned it. The mars bases are in our control for the time being thanks to you. quite a nasty piece of work you’ve managed over there, i am impresed… Thats why im here, doom guy. i have recommend your services to my e-e-mployers, and they have authorized me to offer you a job. they agree with me that you have limitlesss potential. You’ve proved yourself a decisive man so i dont expect you’ll have any trouble what to do. if you’re interested just step into the teleporter and i will take that as a yes. otherwise well i can offer you a battle you have no chance of winning, rather an anticlimax after what you’ve just fought. Time to choose. It’s time to choose Wisely done doom guy! i will see you up ahead.
@KingLich451
@KingLich451 3 ай бұрын
looks more like Trent Reznor
@The_whales
@The_whales 3 ай бұрын
Rise and shine Mr doom guy, rise and.. shine
@QuartQ3
@QuartQ3 3 ай бұрын
why do you look like gman
@BigBlokeSeanyPops
@BigBlokeSeanyPops 2 ай бұрын
Now I know why he has black hair in doom 3
@UCm0i6w5lBlRthCtZEoj99tg
@UCm0i6w5lBlRthCtZEoj99tg 3 ай бұрын
0:58 reminds me of the JC Denton avatar people use everywhere
@MyScorpion42
@MyScorpion42 3 ай бұрын
blueshit spotted
@birdbrid9391
@birdbrid9391 3 ай бұрын
do you have a single fact to back that up
@DanialTarki
@DanialTarki 3 ай бұрын
I’m getting the flashbacks.
@SeanSMST
@SeanSMST 3 ай бұрын
​@@birdbrid9391 bruh what
@nessxsavior
@nessxsavior 3 ай бұрын
@@SeanSMSTjc denton quote
@krimson8089
@krimson8089 3 ай бұрын
7:06 Classic Gargoyle from Eternal
@irespondtotheads7453
@irespondtotheads7453 3 ай бұрын
I wonder if the demon that killed Daisy was considered a sort of war criminal among demonkind. Like, basically the primary catalyst for their greatest enemy's wrath.
@TheBeastUnleashed87
@TheBeastUnleashed87 Ай бұрын
I mean, they're already dead by the end of Thy Flesh Consumed, where her murderer just so happened to be a Spider Mastermind, with killing them avenging their demise.
@lordpalandus11
@lordpalandus11 3 ай бұрын
12:07 = Pretty boy Doom guy with the blue eyes here, does look A LOT like BJ Blacksowicz (I'm sure I butchered the name, but I'm too lazy to check). Like BJ was canonically, his great grandfather or something.
@RolandTheJabberwocky
@RolandTheJabberwocky 3 ай бұрын
Blastkowitz I think.
@keiyakins
@keiyakins 3 ай бұрын
Blazkowicz.
@yocapo32
@yocapo32 3 ай бұрын
BJ is his great great grandfather, and Commander Keen is his grandfather, according to Romero weird shit always happens to the family every two generations.
@ALTEMERI
@ALTEMERI 3 ай бұрын
i want it to be BJ Blacksowicz now
@unoriginalperson72
@unoriginalperson72 3 ай бұрын
0:57 no you're mistaken, THIS is B.J Blacksowicz
@ManOfUnknownWorth
@ManOfUnknownWorth 3 ай бұрын
That DOOM pilgrimage at 11:46 would take closer to two days, as that is quite a long distance.
@decino
@decino 3 ай бұрын
Sleep is for the weak.
@ManOfUnknownWorth
@ManOfUnknownWorth 3 ай бұрын
@@decino Can't argue with that.
@georgiaginsburg734
@georgiaginsburg734 3 ай бұрын
Having made almost the same journey twice in the last two weeks I STRONGLY recommend against doing it in one day lol.
@JeffreyPiatt
@JeffreyPiatt 3 ай бұрын
@@ManOfUnknownWorth somewhere there is a monster closet needing cleanup my money is on Philly.
@wm6589
@wm6589 3 ай бұрын
4:52 When you're talking with a friend and you gotta hit em with the "ah come on man"
@TheDoomer666
@TheDoomer666 3 ай бұрын
Excuse me, sir/ma’am, can you spare some change?
@DoktorSES
@DoktorSES 3 ай бұрын
@@TheDoomer666 "Spare change?... Spare change ma'am?..."
@vibethecat4194
@vibethecat4194 2 ай бұрын
@@TheDoomer666 this is just making me picture a broke doom guy wad lol
@ids.
@ids. 2 ай бұрын
"ah c'mon man" *pulls out shotgun*
@TheVengefulEagle
@TheVengefulEagle 3 ай бұрын
0:58 Doom's Closed
@shreemandpe
@shreemandpe 3 ай бұрын
Due to Imps and space AIDS
@abcpea
@abcpea 3 ай бұрын
bobba
@donowa5637
@donowa5637 3 ай бұрын
pool's closed due to damaging blood floors
@PretzelSage
@PretzelSage 2 ай бұрын
Man i thought I was original I just commented this
@donowa5637
@donowa5637 3 ай бұрын
there's also a TON of unused sounds that can be found in the common.kpf file, including the pre-beta sound effects and an extended version of the doomguy death sound (which is not from sound ideas), as well as unused maps and midis
@CyberPunk-ow3gi
@CyberPunk-ow3gi 3 ай бұрын
the dying sound effect from the barons of hell has always been my favorite sound effect in gaming. also ive heard several of the games sound effects reused in movies often. like the sound doors make and the snarling of the Pinky demons. i watch a lot of scifi :/
@JGCO115
@JGCO115 3 ай бұрын
I like how one of those doomguy portraits seems to be a edited version of Blaskowicz's Portrait from Wolf3D.
@majicant.
@majicant. 3 ай бұрын
my favourite part of the collection has to be the very early placeholder sprites that are drawn so poorly that the pistol sprite says "a pistol" above it in case you couldn't tell. that analysis 12 midi is sick!
@brottongoodfellow5932
@brottongoodfellow5932 3 ай бұрын
The Spider Mastermind break dancing at the olympics while the imp watches is fantastic.
@Neremworld
@Neremworld 3 ай бұрын
I assume the winged demon is suppose to be the Imp from the Doom Bible. It was mentioned that there was a wingless and winged version of the monster that became the Imp in it. The latter flew and threw fireballs while the former just scratched. I assume that's where the Gargoyle enemies came from in Heretic.
@edgardeitz5746
@edgardeitz5746 3 ай бұрын
8:21 - Here's an idea for upgrading "Doom Delta"; when Doomguy encounters _this_ demon, he'd better keep quiet, 'cause one litle noise and this bad boy wakes up in a rage, pissed that you interrupted his sleep. ;)
@Kaybeeguy
@Kaybeeguy 3 ай бұрын
I think my favourite part about the recent Doom port is probably the iD Vault and also Legacy of Rust simply because of the new demons they added and new weapons. I think analysing how they function might be very interesting to see in my opinion
@DynamicLemons
@DynamicLemons 3 ай бұрын
10:40 has me thinking a mod to implement full rotations for the death animations could be neat would be tedious to make, but I think it's a fun idea
@unoriginalperson72
@unoriginalperson72 3 ай бұрын
Doom: the tedious cut
@greenknight9000
@greenknight9000 3 ай бұрын
This truly is a holy grail reveal to preservationists. The fact the graphics are shown in their raw quality and not JPEG-compressed or anything like that is the cherry on top. I hope more games do this in the future
@ECartmanist
@ECartmanist 3 ай бұрын
0:59 It's Doomguys lost brother from the bronx blackguy
@Duothimir
@Duothimir 3 ай бұрын
Doombrother
@SeanSMST
@SeanSMST 3 ай бұрын
Doomni-, Doombrudda
@Curlyheart
@Curlyheart 3 ай бұрын
Doom brothers of destruction
@JohnLoukas
@JohnLoukas 3 ай бұрын
The black slayer... On second thought maybe doombrother is the right choice ngl
@mrosskne
@mrosskne 3 ай бұрын
The Urban Slayer
@NeoMatrix77777
@NeoMatrix77777 3 ай бұрын
The fact that the Doom goblin gargoyle came from my hometown is pretty incredible
@jimbabwe3
@jimbabwe3 3 ай бұрын
5:50 if I'm not mistaken, I think the spiked balls were meant to be used by some of the demon enemies listed in the Doom Bible 7:08 same thing here. this was the cut 'winged imp' that would have had, y'know, wings.
@WAcrobat19
@WAcrobat19 3 ай бұрын
2:23 I genuinely would've loved this. Since I've been playing a lot of Selaco, the idea of a UAC transit system would be a cool way for us to see how Doomguy travels to different levels. Maybe when we get to E1's later levels, the path becomes more and more damaged/bloody.
@fuckiopussigetti453
@fuckiopussigetti453 Ай бұрын
I wonder if with how much we do know now, if it's possible to actually make the original vision for Doom in some way
@CsubAzUrmedve
@CsubAzUrmedve 3 ай бұрын
1:13 Doomguy sprites with the red eyes on the right are my favorite. He looks like and edgy teenager who is is high as heck, but doesn't want his parents to find out.
@unoriginalperson72
@unoriginalperson72 3 ай бұрын
"Dude, please don't tell mom I swear I wasn't smoking weed"
@denifnaf5874
@denifnaf5874 3 ай бұрын
Egy magyart látni angol csatorna kommentjeiben ojan mínt a drog díleredet látnád sürit árúlni😂
@RosieSapphireMusic
@RosieSapphireMusic 3 ай бұрын
Fun fact: The original photographs for Doom and Doom 2 were taken with a Magnavox EasyCam.
@cosmo212
@cosmo212 3 ай бұрын
5:49 I am aware that the textures are a different color and are quite rough in comparison to the other rocket textures, however, I think that potentially it was an attempt to see what it would look like if the rockets were spin stabilized. Rockets today have spin stabilization, much like a bullet. Another aspect for this could also be that since it would be switching sprites, it would appear to flash and become more visually acquirable by the player if the rocket was coming directly at them. After playing through Doom 1 and 2 with the new remixed ost (banger btw) I remember when a cyberdemon shoots rockets at you it visually is a little difficult to acquire the rocket as soon as its launched. A "flashing" sprite that rotates could make it easier for the player to visually acquire the rocket.
@DoomKid
@DoomKid 3 ай бұрын
6:35 LOL - so nice to hear this on your channel!! The rumour is still somehow persistent 😂
@decino
@decino 3 ай бұрын
Sort comments by newest and you'll see there are still people who believe they're not G.I. Joes.
@DoomKid
@DoomKid 3 ай бұрын
@@decinoI guess evidence / reality just doesn't factor in to some people!
@unoriginalperson72
@unoriginalperson72 3 ай бұрын
The only way people are gonna stop is if the devs come out and show the original G.I Joe doll
@t0mbst0neyt
@t0mbst0neyt 3 ай бұрын
Afrodoomguy needs to be playable
@unoriginalperson72
@unoriginalperson72 3 ай бұрын
This is the inclusivity that the game journalists were saying doom was missing
@Savagem8
@Savagem8 3 ай бұрын
It easily can be. Someone just has to take the mugshot frame and put it in the game through Slade or another program
@rodrigoalves-cg6xv
@rodrigoalves-cg6xv 18 күн бұрын
@@unoriginalperson72 No one ever said that.
@antimatter31
@antimatter31 3 ай бұрын
WE NEEDED THOSE SPIDER MASTERMIND DEATH ROTATIONS
@henryfreeman1256
@henryfreeman1256 3 ай бұрын
Something I noticed about the indev mugshots is that they line up with Wolfenstein 3D's 7 levels of face bloodiness. It even looks like the head turning animation from Jaguar Wolf3D were based on these early Doomguy heads. Some other things you missed: * WIP Versions of the final's menu font. Interestingly, it seems like one of the early revisions was used for the graphics in the french localization (DOOM2F.WAD) * A scratchpad of Episode 3's ending shows a version of the first bunny without the orange highlight on its back, and what appears to be Daisy's lopped-off foot. * The description for the pistol variants in the id Vault offhandedly mentions unreleased alpha builds. * You showed the Chaingun muzzle flashes, but you didn't mention the version with a single barrel at the end like the pickup sprite. * The mysterious grey shotgun pickup sprite is grouped together with other alpha weapons, suggesting it's meant to be the double-barrel pump gun mentioned in the Doom Bible. * The sprites you showed for the beta Arachnotron aren't the exact same as those seen in the vault. Legacy of Rust edited them slightly (to patch up holes and to give it black pupils for some reason). Easy mistake to make. I say that because I made that mistake when sheeting the sprites for TSR.
@ZeldaTheSwordsman
@ZeldaTheSwordsman 3 ай бұрын
I wonder if that winged Imp thing is all that remains of the _original_ Imp concept, which was a smaller airborne enemy (a bit more in line with what imp enemies are usually like). What we now know as the Imp was originally the Demon Trooper (with what is simply called the Demon in the final game being the Demon Sergeant. Which might be where its chomping comes from). ...The central body of the Spider Mastermind's mechanical half looks like it might be a drum.
@Neremworld
@Neremworld 3 ай бұрын
That's exactly correct. The small imps ended up getting used by Heretic.
@lev7509
@lev7509 3 ай бұрын
Considering how many bullets she emits, it's only reasonable to have a huuuuge drum...
@ZeldaTheSwordsman
@ZeldaTheSwordsman 3 ай бұрын
@@lev7509 Not an ammo drum, lol. I mean the instrument. It looks like Gregor Punchatz may have used a decapitated drum when making the model.
@lev7509
@lev7509 3 ай бұрын
@@ZeldaTheSwordsman Oh! Yeah that's interesting.
@furorteutonicus9045
@furorteutonicus9045 3 ай бұрын
0:50 Thats Arnold Schwarzenegger!
@vibethecat4194
@vibethecat4194 2 ай бұрын
he almost kinda looks like gman in half life 1(the one on the right does anyway)
@leo_the_v.3847
@leo_the_v.3847 3 ай бұрын
Does anyone else think Doomguys initial design at 0:44 looks like the Doom 3 Marine? Maybe this was the inspiration.
@DoktorSES
@DoktorSES 3 ай бұрын
All I see is G-Man.
@Silks
@Silks 3 ай бұрын
6:46 reminds me of the T1000 death in the molten steel in T2
@maddoxmullis2231
@maddoxmullis2231 3 ай бұрын
10:53 That caught me off guard and was the most necessary thing i have ever seen. I seriously did not know we needed a break dancing spider, but you proved that we did.
@KernelLeak
@KernelLeak 3 ай бұрын
10:53 DOOM as an Olympic discipline when? :D
@pannomic1818
@pannomic1818 3 ай бұрын
when we get an Australian woman to get 0 points
@Flesh_Wizard
@Flesh_Wizard 3 ай бұрын
The spider mastermind must be Australian. Makes sense tbh
@CatsOverdrive
@CatsOverdrive 3 ай бұрын
​@@Flesh_Wizard"hell is just Australia" confirmed.
@munchmandrifta
@munchmandrifta 3 ай бұрын
Fun Fact: Gargoyle MUST be a water spout. Grotesque is just a sculpture. If it's not a water spout it's a Grotesque.
@munchmandrifta
@munchmandrifta 3 ай бұрын
BTW the TV Show Gargoyles f**ks this up, though it would be funny for a more accurate interpretation and has all the characters from the show running around and then when it rains they just start coughing out water...
@unoriginalperson72
@unoriginalperson72 3 ай бұрын
OK statue man, tell me what the difference is between a sculpture and a statue
@munchmandrifta
@munchmandrifta 3 ай бұрын
@@unoriginalperson72 According to Google a statue is a Human or Animal or part of a Human or Animal... So Like a bust... which is the head... not to be confused with a bust, which is in blackjack... or a womans chest... Sculpture is anything... Again this si according to Google, I just know about Gargoyles and Grotesques from reading up on them years ago for a project...
@ViddyOJames
@ViddyOJames 2 ай бұрын
nobody has ever called anything a grotesque
@Dwars
@Dwars 3 ай бұрын
Those lost soul sprites have arguments for and against the eye debate. Hoping some of these sprites also make it to the sprite fixing project in the near future too! GreerG 💥
@Chibi1986
@Chibi1986 3 ай бұрын
Versions without eyes are more unsettling. Wish they used those instead.
@4Wilko
@4Wilko 3 ай бұрын
10:51 - That's amazing.
@Heattokun
@Heattokun 3 ай бұрын
Seeing those alternate heads would be really cool to see cleaned up and released as a mod, especially if someone makes the co-op heads a thing
@monad_tcp
@monad_tcp 3 ай бұрын
4:02 oh its Detroit
@spyczech
@spyczech 3 ай бұрын
Decino idk if ur american but might not want to heart this, shitting on detroit is a racist dogwhistle or euphemism. It's a good city, but after slavery many people fled there and that legacy is random ppl coming for it online
@Baphomets_Kid
@Baphomets_Kid 3 ай бұрын
I demand Soul Doomguy is released in a major Doom game and voiced by Samuel Jackson.
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 3 ай бұрын
I'd rather have Phil LaMarr doing a Green Lantern John Stewart and say "JUDAS PRIEST!!!"
@TheVampireEd
@TheVampireEd 3 ай бұрын
what about Keith David? He has an awesome voice, he voiced Spawn in the HBO animated series and Mortal Kombat 11.
@sle2470
@sle2470 3 ай бұрын
How about Tracy Morgan?
@Baphomets_Kid
@Baphomets_Kid 3 ай бұрын
All good choices, guys and gals… I would also be very happy with JB Smoove.
@DoctorpooandtheTURDIS
@DoctorpooandtheTURDIS 3 ай бұрын
"RIP AND TEAR, MOTHERFUCKER!"
@lukewuzhere1000
@lukewuzhere1000 3 ай бұрын
It took 30 fucking years to see the entire Super shotty animation, This makes me so fucking happy
@HydraKittten
@HydraKittten 3 ай бұрын
Can't wait for someone to make a mod restoring some of the additional animations and details
@megatenshi
@megatenshi 3 ай бұрын
I really like how much fine tuning they did on the exact level of blood and violence they wanted in Doom's sprites. My dumb ass would for sure have gone with the goriest versions lmaooo. That Lost Soul is hard af
@ichimiustin8390
@ichimiustin8390 3 ай бұрын
The unused gib sprites for the imp and zombies could have been used for an xxdeath sequence of sorts
@ShadowEclipse777
@ShadowEclipse777 3 ай бұрын
0:57 Moon Man's Arch-Nemesis
@unoriginalperson72
@unoriginalperson72 3 ай бұрын
Sun man!
@SammyRenard
@SammyRenard 3 ай бұрын
And the best part of it is that it's all contained pre-cropped in the common.kpf file that's using regular zip compression (after renaming to .zip) along with all the other stuff
@eyalamit5120
@eyalamit5120 3 ай бұрын
I'd love to see a video of yours analysing the new enemies and weapons in Legacy of Rust.
@decino
@decino 3 ай бұрын
A video like that already exists.
@eyalamit5120
@eyalamit5120 3 ай бұрын
​@@decino Oh? Made by who?
@decino
@decino 3 ай бұрын
Actually never mind, seems like they didn't bother with any numbers whatsoever. I'll think about it.
@eyalamit5120
@eyalamit5120 3 ай бұрын
@@decino oh hell yeah!
@mkv2718
@mkv2718 3 ай бұрын
@@decinoa bit off topic, but with all the wads that are now available to play on consoles for the first time ever, It’d also be cool to have someone who’s quite familiar with a lot of them maybe put together a top 10 list or something of the mods that were NOT hand picked by Bethesda & Id for inclusion on the (now outdated m) Unity port. I forget what they call those one on the new port, curated mods or favored mods or something? I’m not at home right now. There’s a LOT of stuff on there, many of them seemingly copies, and it would be nice to at least have someone say “hey, I know these ones are good.” 🤷‍♂️
@videogamer678
@videogamer678 3 ай бұрын
Yeah I went to the Strange Town Gargoyle head a few days ago. Some post on Doomworld in 2022 brought it to my attention. So cool to see since Iive in the area.
@rankoinazuma6788
@rankoinazuma6788 3 ай бұрын
10:52 - 10:56 breakdancing spider momma!
@Jim_Jimworth
@Jim_Jimworth 3 ай бұрын
That breakdancing spider is
@FakeBlocks
@FakeBlocks 3 ай бұрын
LET'S FUCKING GOOOO YELLOW BACKGROUND!
@masterneme
@masterneme 3 ай бұрын
After all these years when are we gonna talk about "the holes"?!
@XenoSpyro
@XenoSpyro 3 ай бұрын
That's how they float.
@ichimiustin8390
@ichimiustin8390 3 ай бұрын
The new doom devs talked about the holes and joked about how cacodemons fly with farts, and are named cacodemons, which in greek means evil spirit, but in latin means crappy demon/shitty demon/demon that has something to do with poop. Also, the cacodemon wakeup sound is strange. Maybe it's all a big fart. And the death sound could be the gas leaving it's guts as it explodes, because the guts do show up in the animation
@unoriginalperson72
@unoriginalperson72 3 ай бұрын
​@@ichimiustin8390 pyrocynical demon
@tomasrivero6423
@tomasrivero6423 3 ай бұрын
8:10 brutal
@jetstream-sam457
@jetstream-sam457 2 ай бұрын
DOOM
@lilwyvern4
@lilwyvern4 3 ай бұрын
There are some unused flying giblets which I really hope somebody incorporates into a new gore mod. Nashgore and Bolognese are great and all, but having something with Adrian's art style for consistency would be awesome.
@FranticForte
@FranticForte 3 ай бұрын
I love that they released all these archives of Doom in the new collection. What I don’t love is I don’t have the option to activate friendly fire for when friends “act up” online in co-op. A very much needed addition.
@jessemarkham6887
@jessemarkham6887 3 ай бұрын
there's also a few more unused graphics not viewable in the vault like more early hud iterations and a surprising amount of unused sounds im a SLADE openable Common.kpf file in the game directory
@mcbpete
@mcbpete 3 ай бұрын
Was going to reply the same thing - Sounds, music, maps .... just an absolute treasure trove in that .kpf file !
@jessemarkham6887
@jessemarkham6887 3 ай бұрын
@@mcbpete wait are Bobby's unused MIDIs in there?
@LonelySpaceDetective
@LonelySpaceDetective 3 ай бұрын
@@jessemarkham6887 Just two, though they're apparently both new. There's a different version of the old version of Opening to Hell from back when it was supposed to accompany, uh, an opening cutscene, and UN121.MID which is completely new.
3 ай бұрын
It amazes me that a game that was made in such a short time by such a small team had this number of asset iterations and cuts.
@paumic6366
@paumic6366 3 ай бұрын
10:53 Breakdancing Spidermama 😂😂😂
@Gigas0101
@Gigas0101 3 ай бұрын
Not giving us Afro Pick Doom Guy is ID's biggest crime.
@soupcangaming662
@soupcangaming662 2 ай бұрын
@@MithrasX Only a combful.
@Psyopcyclops
@Psyopcyclops Ай бұрын
DOOM IS WOKE!?
@CatKing9535
@CatKing9535 3 ай бұрын
I have the unity port of Doom and Doom II for PS4, so I got this port for free! The Id vault is cool, and so is The Legacy of Rust. Awesome video Decino!
@StreakedSilver
@StreakedSilver 3 ай бұрын
Did NOT expect the breakdancing joke in there, I spilled some of my salsa XD
@matthewanderson256
@matthewanderson256 3 ай бұрын
0:23 I spat my coffee all over myself, thanks a lot Pumpkin Man XD
@cosmicm8
@cosmicm8 3 ай бұрын
That fully extended super shotgun sprite. God, inject it straight into my veins this nanosecond. I think it might have been cut solely to get us to not get us to be solely super shotgun users. It looks so goddamn good.
@nikitapetrenko1236
@nikitapetrenko1236 3 ай бұрын
Conclusion the current final version of Doom is master piece of development of 90ss games.
@ABCodeX
@ABCodeX 3 ай бұрын
10:35 I didn't realize this is where NTMAi mod creators got the idea to give the Spider Mastermind a summoning ability.
@NeilForshaw
@NeilForshaw 3 ай бұрын
loads of new wads/mods coming out with these new graphics in 3... 2... 1... I always thought the pistol animation looked wonky, like it was bugged. With the extra animation frames it makes more sense now. Also... people thought doom guy loaded the SSG.... in the muzzle?
@LonelySpaceDetective
@LonelySpaceDetective 3 ай бұрын
I was one of those people! Partly dumb kid assumptions, but I feel like the animation is a bit weird in a way I can't put into words; it makes it feel like the Doomguy rotating the gun around is actually the natural progression of the frames, even if I've known better for years. The uncropped versions I don't really get the same vibe from, however.
@S20TBL
@S20TBL 3 ай бұрын
The shareware screen with "go to hell" on it looks like something out of a terry wad
@plantbefore
@plantbefore 3 ай бұрын
things like this is why im a diehard id games fan, i'm a huge fan of shareware ideals and free use assets/sprites, as well as modification of games, which is all something doom and doom 2 have, and cemented doom as a very prominent game tbh (a reputation they work to uphold, unlike some other big franchises) doom doesn't disappoint and neither does id
@QuakeRangerTaya
@QuakeRangerTaya 3 ай бұрын
5:04 I LOVE you bring that up because as a Kid I always thought that XD but learned what a Double Barrel Shotgun actually looks like and functions. Amazing.
@heyspellicup
@heyspellicup 3 ай бұрын
2:09 The Doomfinitive Doom
@lancebaylis3169
@lancebaylis3169 3 ай бұрын
The transit system being visible on the map plays into a theory I've had for a long time. Tom Hall has said in his original concept it was "one big level". I think travel back and forth between levels was originally the idea. Some of the levels in the alphas have areas suggestive of monorail tracks using that blue circular texture. Imagine a version of episode 2 where you trip a switch in E2M7 that opens something up way back in E2M1, if you're willing to ride the train all the way back to explore it. Kind of like the Hexen hubs, but on a much bigger style.
@PenguinDT
@PenguinDT 3 ай бұрын
My guess is that the unused mug shots were are remnant of Tom Hall's first draft - aka DOOM Bible - as it had multiple playable characters. The id Vault is amazing - though I do find it a bit sad they stuck strictly to in-game resolution scans. Both Gregor Punchatz and Adrian Carmack have been sharing the original sculpts and pencil drawings over the years, so I would've absolutely loved to see those featured, too.
@TheGman5000
@TheGman5000 3 ай бұрын
Pumpkin Man delivers again! also, why does the Spidermastermind magic attack look like she's raising the roof? must be a hell of a party animal!
@legoboy7107
@legoboy7107 3 ай бұрын
Let's hope Microsoft doesn't decide to randomly shut down id Software one day like with other studios they owned.
@MondySpartan
@MondySpartan 3 ай бұрын
Shutting down id Software would be a huge crime in gaming history.
@swaos4654
@swaos4654 3 ай бұрын
This video is really good, and uses contrast to make its point really clearly. furthermore, there was something else that was absolutely fucking sick (aside from the awesome creator behind it), How ID also wanted you to pick from different characters. This is shown in that they tried to create different sprites of doom guy; They did this in order to represent *different personalities.* So in a way, they were trying to encapsulate different ways that people express themselves. And how different people express what they are. For instance, they probably tried to make a smarter, more clinical looking doomguy (the one who has glasses). And they likely did this because they understood their target demographic. Nerds. As ID is also comprised of nerds, they understood well how to appeal to other people like them. And the way they executed that was by trying to make a calmer, more collected; and cooler-headed looking doom guy. They tried to create art of another smart person, like the artists who made this game. I think that the biggest point is that, in that way; They also tried to understand the ways players recognize what they are, and the differences between other people. To put it plainly. i love ID. It's a really amazing company. Especially the artists for trying to do what they did. And *i really love how **ID** tried to put a black character in their game.* they tried to implement an incredibly early form of diversity before any company had. And although trying to make the number of characters to pick from was a good decision. It got cut; But it's still really cool that they tried. It shows signs of invisible progress in the industry. The artists wanted to put this in the game. And that progress happened before anyone could possibly see it (in art that got cut) - Before the game industry became what it is today. Although the industry today is mixed, mixture is a good thing. And it's an amazing thing that the industry is also growing to be much more diverse. In short: lovely company, I want to play Doom Eternal 2.
@slayerd357
@slayerd357 3 ай бұрын
That Spider Mastermind grab looks like she's a DJ. But that breakdance cut?! LMAO! TOO SOON!!!
@vinhex
@vinhex 3 ай бұрын
6:16 Holy shit, I've been playing doom for 30 years and it never occurred to me that the partial invisibility is AN EYE
@akeustis
@akeustis 3 ай бұрын
3:47 "You take the stock photo, change the colors, make it hellish, add some more rocks, and there you go." *refuses to elaborate
@DoomMate
@DoomMate 3 ай бұрын
5:05 when I was like 8 I thought that's how Doomguy is reloading the SSG :DD
@coffeemakesgames
@coffeemakesgames 3 ай бұрын
0:44 gman in doom confirmed
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