Better Algorithms Than The AXE-FX? NUX MG30

[@nuxaudio]

5150 will be added for free for sure.

[@TaylorDanley]

Wo0t!!!

[@robertclarkguitar]

Dang!!!! NUX ... That's why I want to get in your equipment ...I've been using bossgt1 for 2 years. All my work has been on it. I want to upgrade ....this comment may have pushed me. When I do, I'll be tagging you in all the videos. Don't get me wrong ...I love my gt1. But you have been appealing with your pricing. Once I have enough to bring this in on my channel I'll tag you .

[@pacolocco3412]

Add more 2 scenes 😬

[@robertclarkguitar]

@@pacolocco3412 you like the pedal ??

[@papakrailanuar1786]

Yeah... Just Waiting New Firmwarw For High Gain Amp Like Peavey 5150/6505

[@rodreyes8436]

I didn’t really have any issue with that first tone you got on the NUX. It sounded pretty good. I’m really impressed with the budget options of guitar gear these days. I realize it’s almost apples and oranges at this point, but 14 year old me would never believe the tones available at $300 bucks.

[@TaylorDanley]

Same!

[@mattgilbert7347]

At 14 I had a crap SG, a terrible solid state amp, and an Ibanez Fat Cat (that pedal is actually killer - it's a RAT!)

[@rodreyes8436]

@@mattgilbert7347 I had a Fender Squier super strat type guitar and a 35 watt Gorilla solid state amp.

[@timz3146]

The most important feature of this modeler, is an ability to play freakin SNAKE on it!

[@TaylorDanley]

100% Agreed. You can also load up your own image for the splash screen when you turn it on. That's pretty neat as well.

[@BorneoClassical]

New revolution!!!

[@bobsmith1965]

Great review. I love mine and the new firmware update was nice too. The computer software interface is hands down the best on the market. A couple things not mentioned about it is the built in drum machine and the looper. Lets not forget about the A B footswitch included.

[@TaylorDanley]

Thanks! I made a video last week and showed off the drum machine, that was fun. You’re right though I forgot about the included switch!

[@aptfx]

MG-30 user here. You‘re spot on with many points. with the expression pedal… this would really be better done as just a socket for something substantial. The stock cabs are fair enough for some tones but don’t really cut it on things like metal. So I can’t agree more to MG-30 users: Give this thing some good IRs.. the technical base is really capable - it can shine! I‘m mostly using York Audio IRs and they make this thing nearly a new device. So YES you‘re right about that too. Regarding the missing 5051… so true too… it’s one of my favorite and I really hope they will include a good model of it. The Good thing is: They do hear us. The new Scenes feature was an idea I brought up and they did include it. I also mentioned organizing IRs being a bit cumbersome and they added the IR collection list. It’s a cool little vendor. Regarding the axe-fx analogy… actually I don’t think they really tried to make the point that the MG-30 is on that level. I think they just wanted to describe their approach to modeling being similar. When talking to them they really are very down-to-earth. As a user - what made the MG-30 shine against some others I had or tried? The complete set of sound quality, build quality, user interface and also one thing: It really „feels“ very direct and dynamic when playing compared to e.g. the Mooer devices. I can’t speak about the Ampero because I didn’t have one. I know someone who has the MG-30, Ampero and Axe Fm3 and he likes the MG-30 more than the Ampero. This isn’t a metal player though. I always got the impression that the Ampero particularly appeals metal players. So as you ask: Is it as Good as an Axe Fx? Your spot on with „yes and no“ by at the same time making clear that this question is overly simplistic. The Axe FX offers MUCH more options so it can do MUCH more. But for some peoples use the MG-30 might actually really be enough and just costs a fraction of the fractal - pardon the pun😉. For the NUX I‘m really hope for inclusion of the 5051 and that they are successful with the output transformer modelling they might have in the next update.

[@TaylorDanley]

Awesome comment. I totally agree, I think it’s just a different thing and MOST people don’t require all that the axefx offers. And yes, my contact at Nux is very cool and down to earth… but I also think that they are smart by comparing their product to the axefx, because it appeals to people who recognize the brand but are on a budget. I also think it’s awesome they have enough humility to refer to their cabs as “decent” in their marketing 😂

[@aptfx]

@@TaylorDanley Ah... I've seen that there is a misunderstanding in the "2K" part in your video. You mention in 10:04 that NUX markets the MG-30 as "2K" compared to AXE-FX "standard definition". Thats not the case actually. Their (NUX) implementation of white box modeling is called "TSAC". With the NUX MG-300 they developed it further and called it TSAC-HD. The MG-30 is the next generation of it and then got called TSAC-2K. So its all within their _own_ product line. TSAC is actually the same kind of marketing name like COSM with the Boss/Roland stuff. So besides of the perhaps questionable analogy to tv resolution it actually isn't directly comparing to AXE-FX. They _do_ create the connection in that their white box modeling is doing essentially the same as Fractal - in contrast to "black box modeling" which is in a range of more or less simple convolution algorithms (like tone match in Mooer or AmpMatching in BiasFX) up to complex profiling like in Kemper. NeuralDSP Quad Cortex might be something of a hybrid, because it does do black box profiling but also seems to model cirquits enough to allow realistic "amp knob fiddling".

[@BorneoClassical]

They already add on new firmware updates

[@AA-ih6kt]

vs headrush mx5?

[@Singerswapnillive]

How does this compare to the hotone ampero or line 6 pod go in terms of amp simulation (specially the fender and marshall amps),audio depth quality of reverbs and modulation ?? Plz tell

[@SujeetGT]

They should really consider putting in Mesa Boogie Mark 2C+ and Mark 4 amps too. That's the only reason I didn't buy this unit and went for Valeton GP 200.

[@continuum288]

You rock buddy. Always dig the content..

[@TaylorDanley]

Thanks dude 🙏🤘

[@Shinigami11111]

I love the Bogner Uber on this pedal, paired with an IR from Odeholm audio and my 8 string sounds awesome 👍🏼😎

[@ianthemann]

For the price range I think it's a good value considering the # of amps/cabs/effects as an entry level product, definitely better than my Digitech RP100

[@RogerBrenon]

I use my Kemper for everything but my RP350 still has some really good stuff in it.

[@surfrby8876]

Can’t complain about it It’s pretty impressive for the price

[@binhck]

How do you compare this MG-30 vs Line6 Pod Go, in terms of amp modeling anf effects sound quality?

[@TaylorDanley]

Not as many effects. Both sound great… I might lean pod go a little more for sound, but I prefer the user experience of the mg30.

[@yoursaviour7613]

How to remove noise inside riff...It makes my riff noisy even though I put noise gate

[@techniqueswithtodd]

HUGE amount of noise until 10:55 when it suddenly stops? What is that?

[@AA-ih6kt]

what about the headrush mx5 vs nux mg30?

[@aptfx]

The MX5 is often said to be not ideal for metal. The MG-30 correctly set up and with good IRs works outstandingly well for metal

[@KelticKabukiGirl]

Add a Joyo Argos Drive in the loop after the comp in the chain and it gives it the analog tones its missing. makes a huge difference for $40

[@agostonbabicz3686]

How would you compare the MG-30 with the Hotone Ampero in terms of clean amp sounds with some reverbs or delays? I am planning to buy one of them but I can't really compare them, but as you have used both units, I am really interested in your opinion.

[@AlexVas999]

SZia! Tudom régi a kommented, de gondoltam leírom a saját tapasztalatomat mindkettővel. Én az ampero-t cseréltem le MG300-ra....vicces, hogy a 120 ezres Ampero-t kenterbe veri a 40 ezres cucc. Nemrégiben pedig MG30 is megjött. Ég és föld a különbség. Sokkar karakteresebb, kevésbé tűnik szimulációnak és műanyagnak a hangzás. Simán felveszi mindkettő a versenyt a komolyabb motyókkal is. A kezelőfelülete mindkettő NUX-nak átláthatóbb, letisztultabb, és szebb. Még az érintő képernyő sem hiányzik.

[@userlegit9981]

@@AlexVas999 Szia! MG300-at lehet használni effekt looopban is?

[@AlexVas999]

@@userlegit9981 Szia! Ha az erősítőd/kombód tudja az effect loop-ot, akkor semmi akadálya!

[@_vez]

Came back to this, The Ampero II and Headrush MX5. I think this is crazy good for the money. Headrush too.

[@JeanMartinNainggolan]

Can audio do both from heaadphone and output at the same time?

[@lifeinsaltlakecity4001]

3:06 - not sure why but that tuba hit laffs me up. Anyway - great vid. Trying to justify a floor unit thru my stupid loud amp in an apartment when my sims and IR's are damn near perfect.

[@ajcajc5429]

I own the mg 300,for $150 it's great!, will be updating very soon.

[@jcalzada74]

You updated it .?? Since I did mine this thing is useless

[@NickfromHighTide]

Hey bud can you tell me what kind of stand you are using on top of your rack to hold up the Nux like that?

[@jadethepusher]

Dude I love your shirt

[@nathangrant8693]

I have the previous model. It’s a good value if you want something to get a bunch of different tones from, but it doesn’t sound like the real amps and cabs. Some tones are muddy and others sound like overly compressed digital versions of tube amps.

[@aptfx]

Try the MG-30 it has much more clarity in its tone and sounds more "real". When also combined with good IRs like those from York Audio its incredibly good

[@justinTime077]

“The previous model” and you’re applying that to a new generation. Oh boy.

[@WholeLottaBulldog]

Hey Taylor, can you disable the power amp modelling in the amps in this?

[@ngx982]

You're not asking me but yes, you can disable them. I bought mine looking for a very compact and versatile combo which could emulate many individual pedals that I could use together with real amps. I usually play on a 6505 or a 5150 and add a mild overdrive or delay but still use the real amp tone on the dirty channels.

[@adamh4680]

Taylor what stand are you using for the NuX MG-30?

[@Rudromukherjeenerv]

Can you load in 3rd party IR's?

[@TaylorDanley]

Yes

[@jconner3891]

This or POD go. Can nu x do channel switching on amps.?

[@Pete1980ification]

I am late to the party but they are refering to the quantization resolution when they say HD or 2K.

[@cistysaigon]

i have one big issue with this unit, and that is when changing presets it reacts when i release the footswitch instead of changing instantly when i step on it, this is totally counter intuitive and sucks big time in a live scenario? is there any way it can be fixed in settings? for instance on my boss ms-3 there is the possibility of setting up the footswitch either on pull or release.

[@MeTuLHeD]

Wow! The ML Soundlabs IR transforms this unit!

[@Singerswapnillive]

How does this compare to the hotone ampero or line 6 pod go in terms of amp simulation (specially the fender and marshall amps),audio depth quality of reverbs and modulation ?? Plz tell

[@mikemitchell7529]

Obviously different price points but the AX FX sound much better. How do you think it'd stack up against a Mooer GE300?

[@TaylorDanley]

I think the ge300 probably lies somewhere in the middle. There are deep dive parameters on the ge300 as well, but again... nothing compared to the AxeFx

[@mikemitchell7529]

@@TaylorDanley Awesome, I understand, cheers for Replying!

[@janipekkala1484]

I found that i must adjust global EQ in Hotone Ampero to get more "natural" amp sound, between solid state PA and Tube PA has also difference. How bout this NuX ??Did others notice same? Would be nice to hear others eq settings when using multifx thought cab..

[@TaylorDanley]

Same. IME needs a big boost to the lows to sound right.

[@aptfx]

@@TaylorDanley Interestingly this only applies to the "Studio direct" mode - not so much on the other output modes. Its also different to how the MG-300 default was setup in Studio direct. I don't know why the set the default this way, but it needs a little boost of Low in output EQ (not big! even a small push goes a long way)

[@ayeapprove]

all of them sound like it's either missing mids or it's just super woofy.

[@aptfx]

Have you checked your computer audio? ;)

[@ayeapprove]

@@aptfx Yes, I checked my studio monitors and studio headphones. Both seem fine ;)

[@Humbertazo10]

I still haven't decided if hotone ampero or Nux mg30. Which one do you recommend?

[@aptfx]

Definitely MG-30 - if you would ask me ;)

[@robertclarkguitar]

Excellent video. And the fact you got NUX to claim they are adding the 5150. Hats off Sir...Love your channel. Metal drummer most my life , but crazy as I is, I play Atmos ish guitar now learning. Hahahaha exploring emotional side. Heheh

[@aptfx]

NUX is actually outstanding in accepting feedback from the community. Better than any vendor I faced before

[@robertclarkguitar]

@@aptfx That's awesome. I've heard nothing but good lately about the company.

[@genesismembrebe9353]

Is this an upgrade from using boss gt1?

[@nosoyunrobotgames]

Nothing but my Metal Zone MT2 :)

[@jasonnaranjo4622]

As always a great job and your opinion is very valid to me, maybe you have the possibility to try a headrush gigboard, it looks very interesting and second-hand has a good value, do you think it is still a good buy? thanks for the work you do to show all these options.

[@TaylorDanley]

Yeah, it’s something I’m always keeping an eye on, it just seems to get pushed to the bottom of the list. I really like that they make a light version without the expression pedal!

[@JiTiAr35]

Awesome review. Do Zoom G6 too please.

[@TaylorDanley]

Oh, it's coming.

[@JiTiAr35]

@@TaylorDanley nice. Thanks.

[@krailanuar]

Congrats... I feel same on mg30 cheap n sound greats

[@guyfeldman4404]

Dude..those metal patches all sound like noise

[@justinTime077]

In the axe vs Nux sound demo I had my AirPods Max on. I heard extreme lack of bass in the Nux, but otherwise it sounded very comparable. I prefer less bass in my tones, but considering you had the bass cranked to 11 on that Nux preset that’s kinda unfortunate.

[@joaberios]

Do you have a Chug Battle between this and the MX5?

[@duanewilson3941]

If I was looking to ease my way in to modeling, could I use this just for the effects along with my drive pedals for now and maybe lose my amplifier at a later date and then use the modeling amplifiers inside this unit? Are the effects alone good enough?

[@paulneedham9885]

yes just turn the amp effect off

[@apoplexiamusic]

the TSAC-2K thing is really ironic for those of us who were around in the actual year 2k. it does sound good, but WAY off from the ahem.. AX-FX

[@TaylorDanley]

Clever marketing, hitching your product to the axefx bandwagon, but yeah they are just different things..

[@aptfx]

“2K” in this case was just marketing lingo for “next version after TSAC-HD” which before was the successor to TSAC. This has absolutely nothing to do with Axe-FX. I don’t know where this thing comes from that NUX said they are “2K” vs Axe-FX.

[@elmeromero6559]

great video but just one doubt.. if I want to play only trough headphones . is it necessary to connect the MG30 into an amp or PC?? or can play just trough the headphones without connecting the MG30 into amp or PC?? I'll appreciate someone reply me ..t-you=)

[@riffsnoleads]

no need for an amp. You can go headphone only. You just have to change the output setting in the global settings

[@elmeromero6559]

@@riffsnoleads thanks a lot for ur reply

[@unlockmobility]

Do you like this or the Helix Stomp better?

[@TaylorDanley]

That’s a tough one. In terms of my enjoyment dialing it in, mg30. But in terms of tones that I can create, I think the stomp might edge it… barely.

[@hangman960]

which do you think is best the nux or the Valeton?

[@Dineshvlogs2359]

Hey bro ampero mini or nux mg30

[@Hoprdoxx]

Please include Friedman BE 100 to any future comparison.

[@yearat]

Love for the Metallica style Mandalorian T

[@TaylorDanley]

The company that makes them is called Draculabytes!

[@cmd_f5]

I dig the sounds here. Have not used a Nux product but intend to. Mostly a plugin person myself but sometimes like busting out a flor unit and going from there. Ps: Any thoughts on how you think different approaches of modeling/capturing change the end sound? EG, something like the AxeFx or a Mercuriall plugin is generally modeled after the circuit in question. That is, there's little digital things that model diodes and transistors etc, vs something like a Kemper or Quad Capture or Reamp Studio from AA that takes a snapshot of an amp (or several snapshots) and averages all that out. Something like Reamp Studio sounds good, but there are profiles in it that sound... Static. They don't react or behave like a ground up circuit model. Perhaps a future vid idea? This subject fascinates me to no end. If I had a Kemper, I'd purposefully try and mess with breaking a profile whilst capturing it and see what goes wrong. Like, does it just totally trash the gain structure of the amp in cool ways, or how would capturing a super high gain tone work then bumping the gain down on the profile differ from the real thing? Thx for reading. My post script was longer than the OG subject. Lol. Cheers

[@shadyburnike264]

Oh my God you said white-box they're going to come after you bro...lol

[@TaylorDanley]

HIDE YA WIFE, HIDE YA KIDS!

[@burningtides2514]

Headrush mx5 ? Nux mg30 ? Hotone ampero ? Which one ?

[@san_dzo]

30

[@w777ru4]

TSAC-HD (White-Box) vs AIRD boss

[@alanguzmanjimenez1756]

Thanks for the review bro, it serves me a lot as a reference, and now I am going to consider acquiring one in the future ... but I want to ask you since you have one for a while 1: can I use more than 1 IR in U preset? 2: They didn't upgrade to use a 5150? (Just read the comments from nux) Thank you (kelly lover here)

[@aptfx]

The upgrade with the 5051 is planned for end of Q4 2021

[@peteytwofinger]

Both the mg 300 and the 30 are my favorite pieces of gear for one reason - they sound good to great. the 300 is very easy and there seems to not be a bad sound in it as long as you dont go silly . the 30 , well i have only had it for a minute but there is more to it and it sounds really good . transfering patches manually (using the same models with the same settings) from the 300 to the 30 i found unsatisfactory results until i went and really fine tuned everything the scenes and parallel routing options for example are great but required me to jump thru hoops to match volume levels ... iif you live in an apartement or if you record music these things are great. out of the box this type of stuff doesnt hit its mark till you customize it , which on the 30 is gonna take you some time .OF COURSE it sucks compared to axe fx which costs 2000.oo... if you got burned by digital once before this is the one you should try - you will like it ... But this of course is all just my opinion, i do feel the user experience is very good and the top thing is the sound- wowie wow wow -it can be great - BTW thomann has the30 for 211 USD and the 300 for 89 USD .

[@allboutthemojo]

How is the lag / delay when switching patches? Does the dsp have a large capacity before being overloaded? How many amp and cab sims can one import ?

[@deHelli]

Hello Nux when should the 5150 come?

[@TaylorDanley]

It's been available for a while now.

[@bawihpuia9658]

Nux mg 30 or zoom g5n which is better?

[@gauravlama2079]

Please make a review for Headrush Mx5 vs fractal and Mg30 aswell

[@michaelnadeau9748]

Had a hard time discerning tonal qualities through those Toyota mounted phase cannons. Tight riffage work!

[@metalwrath4]

I'm still waiting for Hotone Ampero 2, supposedly coming out this year

[@oakenmaus]

September!

[@Jstall7543]

Not a bad deal for the price!

[@coreymineard]

Not everyone is looking for a Peavey 5150 model, I don’t miss it at all 😂

[@skrupam7389]

This or boss gt 1?

[@MetalZoned]

That is a really disappointing list of included IRs. I know most people, myself included, will just opt for 3rd party ones anyway but there should be a better selection. Agreed about the mini expression pedal, complete waste of space. Looking to seeing a shootout with this vs line6 and zoom

[@justenbeashel]

Great review man, I had no idea this didn't have the 5150 as a base amp model (my favourite for the music I like to play). So will probably keep saving my money and get a more substantial amp modeler. Cheers! 🤘

[@aptfx]

5150 model comes with the next update (confirmed)

[@2jsalomon]

they have it now. its leaps and bounds better since this video came out. There has been several updates and now its a super solid unit

[@brpadington]

On paper closely modeling the amp sounds great. In practice that is not necessarily what people want on a multi-fx/amp modeler. When Line 6 released the Pod HD it had some models that so closely followed the amp that they had to be dialed in in weird ways. This was so confusing that they released alternate models of the amps later that behaved the way people expected. The same could be an issue here. Especially since this modeling seems far more accurate.

[@viacheslavoboskalov]

ampero hotone or nux mg30 for metal?

[@iaoshua]

the ampero is not really in the same league . sounds very digital

[@TaylorDanley]

I don't think you can go wrong with either. The Ampero has more to offer in terms of effects and amp modeling, but IME does take some effort to dial out some of the shrillness in the top end. I'll be shooting them out here soon.

[@aptfx]

I‘m looking forward to that. I‘m a MG-30 user and learned a bit how dialing in makes huge differences (besides of proper IRs). I think it is a very capable device. Maybe not plug and play but very capable. I‘m curious what you will come up with.

[@infolalulintas3511]

I think mooer ge 200 and ampero more awesome

[@eka721983]

5150 included in Zoom GFX8...

[@aptfx]

But Zoom sounds meh to me... 5051 will be soon in the MG-30

[@stevemoore6349]

Ok ampere or nix? Best higain

[@antoniopetersparada3450]

nux mg 30 vs zoom g6???

[@narudolim-udom2804]

Zoom g5n vs nux mg 30?

[@robrobbins4906]

If you're buying a $400 modeler just so you can get the 5150, you need to get a life.

[@SoundMerch]

2024 V5 upgrade 5150 on board.

[@thedanksavatron7782]

Nissssssssssssssssssce 🍻

[@pocojoyo]

What do you think of the NUX MG-400 ?

[@HOGANMW]

I am Mooer GE300 Lite + stomp boxes user and I can tell Axe3 just crushed that toy. Axe's midrange and amazingly controled high end are something which modelers as Headrush, Boos, Mooer, Helix incl. Quad Cortex can dream about. Kemper is the only option which can be considered to get great sound too I think.

[@harmonicseries6582]

Sounds very similar to the zoom 505

[@Mattxorx]

can you play doom on that screen?

[@TaylorDanley]

We’re getting closer everyday..

[@endoffate5475]

Ampero is still king.

[@HC_GUITAR]

I bought the mg30 to play metal 🤔 i jest

[@adownbeatexegete1549]

Axe-FX on a budget.

[@ZagrasNixillis]

The A$$-FX sounds better.

[@jconner3891]

Sounds good to me. What do I know though Nothing. Lol 😂

[@ChuckDiesel777]

That t shirt tho…

[@fndrn8]

well, I want 4k jk

[@thefuneralparade]

hold on...let me fire up my 5000 dollar quadruple rectofier an hook up million dollar axe effects to give a proper poor persons setup...jeez

[@roryt1985]

Nowhere near an axe fx. Some folks had the same opinion of the Ampero and whilst it is undoubtedly phenomenal for the price, it’s clearly in a much lower league than an axe or fm3.

[@TaylorDanley]

IME they just aren't the same thing. And they shouldn't be! They are targeted to completely different players.

[@ShreddingFinn]

It’ll fool most people in a blind test, I guarantee it, unfortunately for Fractal owners price and quality are independent today

[@bobsmith1965]

True, you can buy 7 of the NuX-MG30 for the price of 1 Axe-FX.

[@TheDVM1]

Still think the 300 is much better especially for the price difference. It is a Bummer neither come with the 5150.

[@aptfx]

Had both. MG-30 is better in any possible way.

[@TheDVM1]

@@aptfx I had them both here for about a week. The 30 wasn't as organic sounding to me. The time effects were better but the overall amps just didnt do it for me. For the price I figured the amps would sound better.

[@aptfx]

@@TheDVM1 sound is always subjective. So we certainly will not get an objective result here :). I did A/B test them quite a lot in the time and did learn some things that the MG-30 just does differently. For example: You definitely have to take the amp master knob more into account than with the MG-300. There is a very good comparison video by Jimmy Lin which uses the same IR files on MG-300 and MG-30 and it is so very clear there that the MG-30 sounds more detailed and dynamic. (might be the better dynamic range of the MG-30). The MG-300 sounds quite similar but more compressed. As an analogy: To me this is a bit similar to JPEG (MG-300) vs. RAW (MG-30) photography. The RAW contains more detail and processing capabilities and can look the same as the more "finished" camera JPEG with proper settings. Its impossible though to get back the detail and range of RAW in a JPEG. Cheap cameras only offer JPEG and process them to look contrasty, saturated to look tasty. Professional cameras offer RAW which can be processed the same but also quite different. The price: The MG-30 might have a little bit steeper entry learning curve compared to the MG-300. But its worth it in so much ways!

[@ahighervibe4086]

It’s a shame all this does is metal sounds… I’m sure I’m not the only one looking for something a little less one-dimensional!

[@MiroslawBlazek-Gdansk]

You seem to be misguided here by the fact, that this is Metal guitar tone oriented channel. I can assure you that this device is capable of so much more. You can check my "Guitar stuff..." playlist for other reviews and demos of this and similarly priced devices.

[@infolalulintas3511]

Sound lil bit muddy for me

[@mattgilbert7347]

I don't listen to or play metal. Thanks but this is not the droid I'm looking for. Do love early Metallica tho

[@awittypilot8961]

Appreciate the info but can't handle the music. Consider doing something that doesn't sound like dirt and I may subscribe

[@ericvalverderosado2046]

I wouldn’t ask the question…the circuitry and components used to transform digital into analogue and the way back have a strong impact in the final sound…and for the price the AXE FX 3 will have high end connections and stuff… putting aside the technical talk…is amazing how companies are putting out great sounds at lower prices every time…for me the Axe FX killed the MG30 completely, but in its own cathegory should be competitive…is very usable for us the youngsters that don’t have 3 grand to buy pro stuff…oh, and it would be overkill for a teenager or casual player…so leave the Axe FX to the pros haha

[@infolalulintas3511]

Ge 200 is more awesome

[@aptfx]

Its a nice device... but I sold it long before getting the MG-300 (and then MG-30). The GE 200 didn't really stick... sound was solid but the feel was off. The MG-300 was just a test after the mediocre experience with the GE 200... I was quite astonished how good the MG-300 did sound _and_ feel. The MG-30 is quite a bit more versatile and robust. It does even feel better with its 2ms... very direct for a digital device. The sound depends on the quality of the IRs... of course... so it _can_ be extraordinarily good with good IRs. In its price class it is really a leading product

[@infolalulintas3511]

@@aptfx yes u right. But i think it really depends on what type of music do u play. If u like clean and crunchy tone such as rock music i guess mg 300 and mg30 gonna fit for ur gear, the amp simulation is quiet simmilar to the real marshall. But in other hand the ge 200 and ge 150 on marshall simulation not even close to the real one, i guess the gain is a bit to much. but when it comes to the high gain amp simulation, Me personally gonna go with the ge 200 and 150 bcs the sound is more open for me and the 5150 simulation is really spot on even without the load ir. But mg 30 and 300 when it comes to high gain is a lil bit muddy, there is something low end that i dont really like. Of course if u put some EQ after it is gonna be good, but to much effort i gues. But everything is basically back to our personal preference.

[@aptfx]

This is something that’s easily fixed with proper IRs. Try York Audio or Bogren and it’s like a completely different device

[@gibson2623]

Comparing these 2, is like comparing a Fiat and a Ferrari.....Geezuzzzz dude

[@crunch_amp9282]

Sounds like crap

[@hodshonf]

hilarious

[@jrgenlundsgaard9479]

you dont need an expensive pedal ..... WHY ?..... Just because of that kind of noise you makes