"Better For Them Not To Have Known The Way Of Righteousness" | 2 Peter

[@AbrahamAdeyemiOSAS]

Psalms 119:67 Before I was afflicted I went astray: but now have I kept thy word.

[@julianjauregui2938]

Share me your chastening story brother? Ivebeen severely chastened for the past 6 months I dont know if its ever going to end.

[@julianjauregui2938]

@@Newmember2336 with mental, emotional, and spiritual affliction. A withdraw of his presence and peace and joy. He has chastened me by hiding his face from me and allowing my sin to correct and reprove me. Also wilderness desert of feeling sometimes hopelessness and despair.

[@patcola7335]

​@@julianjauregui2938Exactly how I've been feeling because of my p*** addiction and SSA. Romans 1 and 2 describes me to a T.... It's like I have to keep telling myself the gospel and pleading for God to take this thing away... Tormented in my mind and continual spiritual battles.

[@mikefun7482]

I'd like to share something with you as someone dealing/dealt with the same addiction. I want you to understand, that you, CAN'T break the addiction, if you could, you would, because you definetly want to. You will not be judged nor will you be condemned, Jesus has already imputed his righteousness on you. I've see more progress this year than I have in my life and it's all because I have been able to surrender to the spirit within me and within you. Remember, your spirit, the holy spirit and flesh are constantly at war with each other, it's the holy spirit that defeats temptations, not you (your flesh). Pray for deliverance, but you MUST have faith that that deliverance will come, don't remind yourself of the gospel, you know it already because you already want to turn from your sins. I read these verses and study them to walk in the spirit, these verses give me the strength to abstain, I can't explain how, I just know that whenever I pray and read these verses, it's so much more easy to defeat temptation, I have slipped, but I run right back to the word and I keep improving and keep building up my strength because that's why God hasn't taken it away from you, he is building you up for the rest of your life, don't be tormented, you are a brother, sealed in the palm of our father, justified by Jesus our Savior. He loves you, if a feeling of condemnation comes over you, that is not God, that is the Devil. I've noticed, the days I spend reading the bible and praying the most are the days where temptation is both the weakest and my strength is the greatest. Whenever I have God or a teaching or a bible verse on my mind, I tend to overcome temptations way more. Whenever you are tempted, understand that it's a temptation billions of other Christians also experience, you are fully capable of overcoming it and God himself provides the way out, he himself provides the method to overcome it and from my experience it's the verses in the bible. Remember, when Jesus was tempted by Satan himself, he ONLY used the word of God to defeat each temptation, he lectured Satan with the word of God. Whenever we pray, God hears it, and if it is according to his will, he will answer it. You breaking free of addiction is most certainly apart of his will, so that you will give him glory and praise and have a testimony to share with others, just as I am doing for you now. The thing is, the way God may answer your prayer may not be exactly the way you want, we both want him to purge the addiction from us once and for all, but maybe, there is something along this journey that he needs us to understand or acquire, I think one of those things is learning how exactly to deal with temptation so that in the future we will have this wisdom and experience already. Rememeber I said our flesh (outward man) and spirit (inward man) are constantly at war. Don't the let casualties of this war get you down, your flesh is cursed to sin until it dies but the spirit given to you by God, never sins and will never die, focus on that fact, don't lose heart. Both of these verses show that the armour and weaponry given to you to overcome temptations are not physical, it is God's word. Keep his word in his hear and on your mind as much as possible, for me this works a lot. I keep thinking about teachings such as the ones Onorato makes in his videos, I think about stories in the bible, sometimes I will be so in deep in the spirit in my room and I will preach a sermon to the wall, just because I have a thought or lesson on my mind, I meditate on teachings and the bible and it's in these times that I feel as if temptation can't come near me, I feel like I have Satan's neck under my foot, I might get faced with a temptation and I immediately destroy it. To sum it up, the holy spirit is within you and the bible has been given to you, these are your weapons against addiction and they work very, very well. Feel free to ask me any other questions brother, sorry for the long passage but I felt led to testify to you, one day you will testify to someone else. God Bless Brother @@patcola7335

[@ΚώσταςΤεκονάκης-λ5χ]

@@patcola7335im feeling the exact same thing is this ever going to go away ?

[@BibleTumper]

I've suffered agony as a consequence of sining because of entanglement due to a divorce I suffered. I didn't have any support from anyone, and my life spun out of control. I paid for it dearly. The pressure was unbearable. I knew better, but in my pain, I let things in my life go south. God had to chasin me before I destroyed myself. I'm so thankful that he did...amen.

[@skywatcher7777]

How are you doing now?

[@mikaelrosing]

Been, having some issues falling to old ways, this really gave me conviction on my issue which hurt me and my ego very well, thank you Glory to God he got me to click it and amen, thank God

[@OnoDiamante]

God bless! kzbin.info/www/bejne/b36WXpivl9FknbM

[@lilacook921]

Praise the Lord Jesus for saving me by grace through faith in Jesus finished work on the cross and his precious atoning blood sacrifice ❤️ and ✝️🛐 s

[@lilacook921]

@@Europeangardens by believing in Jesus and accepted g as my Lord and SAVIOR through faith ❤️ and ✝️🛐 s

[@LalmuanzualaMuanzuala-dh9ug]

Amen🙏

[@lilacook921]

So true brother!! I have been chastised before and learned my lesson!!! ❤️and ✝️🛐 s

[@AbrahamAdeyemiOSAS]

Amen! Psalms 119:67 Before I was afflicted I went astray: but now have I kept thy word.

[@spiritfilled2589]

Thank you so much for teaching Bible to all who listen. God bless you!💪🏼👏🏻🙏

[@kylecomeaux7000]

The Lord Jesus Christ Bless and Keep you brother.

[@gregorylatta8159]

Clear teaching!!!

[@AbrahamAdeyemiOSAS]

Amen brother! Thanks for sharing this truth

[@Moshugaani]

We just had a (lady) preacher in the church I frequent this sunday teaching in no uncertain terms that this passage says that you will lose your salvation if you get entangled into sin after coming to faith. She also mocked "cheap grace theology" and in her opinion the false teachers in this passage were teaching "cheap grace" (she got that from the "promise the liberty" part). I was so disappointed about the perspective that she took. Well, I guess I shouldn't be surprised, since Arminianistic theology is somewhat popular in these crowds. (It's extremely hard to find a true Free Grace church where I'm at, and it's emotionally difficult to turn my back on others and try to find a new church) I didn't confront the lady personally, but I think I'll need to send this video to her. :p Thanks Onorato!

[@dhgii]

Amen brother, thanks for that explanation, comparing scripture with scripture. It was very helpful. God bless you!!!

[@MrMarbles0Xecution]

Thank you for this explanation. God bless you.

[@Livingingrace]

Amen. Good msg brother N 👍👍

[@AbrahamAdeyemiOSAS]

Amen!

[@BCDC123]

Awesome teaching!!!

[@christologisch]

Thanks

[@DavidHuber63]

Makes perfect sense, God Bless.

[@kM-ij2ly]

Excellent teaching

[@BP-E]

Amen brother!

[@999fine4]

Excellent.

[@Rundu1987]

Getting rid of our sins and soul winning, soul winning, soul winning!

[@keatongrout6275]

Very interesting!

[@timroot4207]

Amen & Thank you !

[@Ponduzn]

God bless you brother!

[@lonia.5283]

Amen ❤

[@markhall6306]

Acts 16:30-31 The Philipian jailor asked what shall I do to be saved answer believe upon the Lord Jesus Christ and you shall be saved and your entire household

[@According_To_Matt]

And then he got baptized and changed his life.

[@lloydgeofreydanquah7723]

Dear Brother in Christ Onorato, Appreciate all your videos. They are certainly encouraging in times of instability in our walk in Christ. I don't think this verse or chapter is about divine chastisement. It's clear, in context, Peter is talking about false prophets, who only bring deceit lies, trying to destroy the way of truth (Gospel) and profiting off of those saved in Christ. Peter likens them to Balaam, who knowing the truth of God tried make profit by going against Isreal. They are are waterless springs because they don't have the living water (Holy spirit) in them. That is why they are fleshly, cause that is all they know. So, when Peter says, it would have been better for them never to have known the way of righteousness (believe in the Gospel), he says it because they were preached onto the Gospel, yet still rejected it. Just like Baalam. Also Lot, as we all know was no where near righteous. He slept with his daughters, even offered them up to the angels. Look at all the sins he committed, even though he didn't like the people in Sodom, he still chose to remain there (until the Lord delivered him and his family). However, he was righteous because he believed God (like Abraham), That is why these false prophets, in context, are dogs returning to their own vomit. They are not sons of God, because they do not believe in the Gospel. So, Peter warns the sons of God to be careful, because they dwell among them in the Church. It is not above God disciplining His children. Although, it is truth that God does do it, as Hebrews 12 says. But this verse is not about the save believer (heir to great things He has promised). OSAS, Amen.

[@RichardM1366]

They who do not believe they say it is proof you can lose our salvation! What it is saying is about being chastised. You will suffer losses but remain saved.

[@julianjauregui2938]

Ive been being chastened for a long while now for my willfull kbowledgeable disobedience its no joke. Ive been in the wilderness now feeling spiritually dead, dry, and ignored for the past 6 months having satanic dreams and feeling disconnected from the Lord. Anyone jave any testimonies of making it through the chastening and restoration of such a one as me?

[@WWJD799]

"Beloved, do not think it strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened to you; but rejoice to the extent that you partake of Christ's sufferings, that when His glory is revealed, you may also be glad with exceeding joy. If you are reproached for the name of Christ, blessed are you, for the Spirit of glory and of God rests upon you. On their part He is blasphemed, but on your part He is glorified. But let none of you suffer as a murderer, a thief, an evildoer, or as a busybody in other people's matters. Yet if anyone suffers as a Christian, let him not be ashamed, but let him glorify God in this matter." ~ 1 Peter 4:12-16 "And He said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for My strength is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore most gladly I will rather boast in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me. Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in needs, in persecutions, in distresses, for Christ’s sake. For when I am weak, then I am strong." ~ 2 Corinthians 12:9-10 "Consider it all joy, my brothers and sisters, when you encounter various trials, knowing that the testing of your faith produces endurance. And let endurance have its perfect result, so that you may be perfect and complete, lacking in nothing." ~ James 1:2-4 "Many are the afflictions of the righteous, But the LORD delivers him out of them all." ~ Psalm 34:19 "Brethren, I do not count myself to have apprehended; but one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind and reaching forward to those things which are ahead, I press toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus." ~ Philippians 3:13-14 “Blessed are the poor in spirit, For theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are those who mourn, For they shall be comforted. Blessed are the meek, For they shall inherit the earth. Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, For they shall be filled. Blessed are the merciful, For they shall obtain mercy. Blessed are the pure in heart, For they shall see God. Blessed are the peacemakers, For they shall be called sons of God. Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness’ sake, For theirs is the kingdom of heaven." ~ Matthew 5:3-12 "Look, I go forward, but He is not there, And backward, but I cannot perceive Him; When He works on the left hand, I cannot behold Him; When He turns to the right hand, I cannot see Him. But He knows the way that I take; When He has tested me, I shall come forth as gold." ~ Job 23:8-10 "For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, saith the LORD, thoughts of peace, and not of evil, to give you an expected end." ~ Jeremiah 29:11

[@OhOkayChloe]

How are you now? 🙏🏼

[@UncommonLeadership777]

@@OhOkayChloethese scriptures were shared for another person but much appreciated by me!!!

[@brux3822]

Yes. I'm ashamed to say that my life has been nearly destroyed due to God's chastisment for a sin that I struggled to conquer for 24 years. I keep asking Him to end my life but he refuses. I got control over many other sins but this one particular sin is really hard to stop. I hope and pray for your victory brother!

[@toddarcand6002]

Yes those who turn from His Holy commandments will face His wrath.

[@larryhoward-pl1pe]

Not wrath brother, chastening. Totally different words and meanings behind them.

[@fgagaerhjhjyfyjfyyjkf]

@@larryhoward-pl1penot everyone’s a brother

[@larryhoward-pl1pe]

@@fgagaerhjhjyfyjfyyjkf anyone who believes Jesus is the Christ is born of God, 1 John 5 1

[@alwaysadawg6488]

Thank you. Let's say you are saved and have sinned. If you repent of your sins and ask for forgiveness, can you avoid the chastisement that would come as a result of those sins? The reason why I ask is that no one is perfect; not even the saved. If you seek God's forgiveness for sins, then you can you avoid the chastisement? I appreciate your videos, brother. God bless!

[@AkeemKN]

1 Corinthians 11:30-32 English Standard Version 30 That is why many of you are weak and ill, and some have died.[a] 31 But if we judged[b] ourselves truly, we would not be judged. 32 But when we are judged by the Lord, we are disciplined[c] so that we may not be condemned along with the world.

[@Kirretje]

Sincere question: I'm always wondering what this chastisement might look like in practice? Do you have any thoughts on that?

[@scribbliedoo]

I’d like to know as well

[@Kirretje]

@Rob Rob so i understood / heard before. But can i then conclude that getting sick or being involved in an accident or losing a child, losing your job (just a few examples) could be coming from God as chastisement? If so, how do we know when it is, or isnt from Him? I can not put these things together compared to his wrath poured out and already satisfied with the sacrifice of Jesus dying on the cross. I mean, poor decisions in life also have there moral consequences for example...robbin a bank will get you in trouble, living unhealthy will get you in trouble etc etc. Hope you understand my thought process here 😉

[@OnoDiamante]

The Bible says in 1 Corinthians 11:30, “For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.” Physical ailments or premature death can all be forms of chastisement. The natural consequences of sin can also serve as a form of punishment. Jeremiah 5:25 says, “Your iniquities have turned away these things, and your sins have withholden good things from you.” Hope this helps!

[@Kirretje]

@@OnoDiamante thanks! It makes it more clear indeed. Interesting topic in any case. I will look into it more....reason for this is i have a colleauge who is very ill, many surgeries and blabla...2 years already through the mill so to speak...he's a believer he says...which leads me to think--> why is all this horrible stuff happening to him

[@OnoDiamante]

@@Kirretje Glad it makes sense! Read the book of Job and pay close attention to his “friends”. Tragedy doesn’t necessarily mean chastisement.

[@rtrt8205]

I had a dream I was taken to heaven by God and he scolded me. During my dream, God transported me instantly. I was in a big empty space in heaven and I already knew why I was there as soon as he plucked me. I could understand God speaking to me in my head. He said why are you (I for got what I word was but I think it was congregating) with demons. I apologized and asked God to forgive me. I told him I would forget the word I learned. In the dream I was talking to a demon and learned things I shouldn’t of learned. This dream made me realize how in the past God has been looking out for me, showing me things to come and answering my prayers. The dream really put it in perspective how he is watching me and cares for me. If he didn’t care for me then he wouldn’t have scolded me or corrected me. I felt that I wronged him after I woke up but after realizing he has been actively communicating with me verbally in my dreams I’m happy even for him correcting me. I don’t know the meaning of the dream but maybe I wondered somewhere I shouldn’t have in my dream?

[@dearbelovedcheryl]

It's is already what we did and do in the flesh that has been judged. Flesh will die. It's now about our faith learning how to love like He loved. Cloaked with righteousness (white robe) is loving God with all of our "HEART" and loving our neighbor as we hold no offenses to our neighbor and hold no offense to ourselves. The second judgement will be heart of who we have become in spite of the world. Love is Patient, love is kind. Love is not rude, does not boast...... Is will be the standard. He is coming back as the gardener to inspect His garden. Strengthen what remains while you hear the gardeners voice. Will He find fruit in your garden or a cursed tree?

[@f_s_m]

The way of righteousness is believing on the Lord Jesus Christ because Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to all who believe. My concern is this: how would it be better to never have known the way to be saved than to receive chastisement as a child of God?

[@KJ-gp4tt]

Onorato Diamante: Judged, according to this scripture. Matthew 13:7 ✝️🌅✝️🌄✝️🌅. John 5:30 ✝️🌅✝️🌄✝️🌅.

[@jonathan711]

Fact #1: If you follow along in the Bible starting at verse 1 it is easy to see that the false teachers have led believers astray. Fact #2: The passage says if a believer is led astray from the faith because of these false teachers then the end for them is worse than it would have been had they never come to be a believer. Fact #3: If you are an unbeliever you will not be in a good position for eternity….death, hell, the grave. Question: How can temporary chastisement be worse than being eternally separate from God?

[@owlsrawesome]

I want to believe in free grace but I had that question too. I’m so confused

[@MrWeebable]

But how can it be better to be unsaved than to be a believer under chastisement?

[@BingoNamo-gb8pz]

I do not get the impression that 2 Peter 2 is talking about a believer. Why would Peter be warning against a believer? A false teacher is never a believer…

[@stephenwade6957]

The context of 2 Peter 2 is a warning to the Church about coming “false doctrines” and false prophets. It (in its entirety) directly addresses OSAS in verses 20-23. It warns of false teachers who promise “liberty” but themselves are hypocrites. It is a direct warning to not listen to leaders that say that once you choose God, repent, and pursue Righteousness to never listen to false teachers that say you can return to your vomit. 1) False teachings 2) Sneaky false doctrine 3) Hypocrisy 4) Don’t return to your sin “it’s a lie.” “Depart from me I never knew you, because you refused to turn away from your sin” Jesus

[@skywatcher7777]

A bit confused by your statement here. Are you actually quoting Jesus there? Thanks

[@stephenwade6957]

@@skywatcher7777 paraphrasing

[@JhonGuillerDinero]

What do mean? if the person believe in the Gospel he/she is save turn away from sin to be saved is a false gospel

[@stephenwade6957]

@@JhonGuillerDinero Turning away from sin is 100% Biblical, that’s what the word “believe” means. “Believe” isn’t a state of mind, a revelation, or a conclusion you reach, belief is the walking out of that belief. “Even the demons believe…. But do you want to know, O foolish man, that faith without works is dead?” - James Acts 3:19 Repent therefore and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out…

[@JhonGuillerDinero]

@@stephenwade6957 no your wrong again Jesus didn't die for demon again repent means change of mind God already paid in full for sin all you really need to do is to believe in the Gospel that's it Grace is gift not work Turning from your sin is work it's not even the bible Also faith without work is not profitable to men but not to God stop trying to twist read the context first and understand Romans 4:5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

[@japhtermotaung1891]

Do you think the "overcoming the corruption through the knowledge" is positional or experiential? And if their latter end is after they are entangled, which stage is their beginning - before knowing the way of righteousness or knowing the way of righteousness?

[@OnoDiamante]

In this context, they escaped the pollutions of the world in the experiential sense. We have to distinguish between positional and experiential sanctification. Their beginning would be prior to them having the knowledge whereby they escaped the pollutions of the world.

[@Orange00000p]

i'm tired of this world

[@alexsidiropoulos3932]

Me too

[@vinnyfeeney1212]

Matthew 25. The parable of the 10 virgins. Are any of these virgins metaphors for saved or unsaved people?

[@OnoDiamante]

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[@freegraceau]

What mic are you using bro?

[@MarathonMadeGalatians5-22]

So I'm saved 100% - OSAS HallaluYah Will it be our flesh that gets beaten more as a saved new/mature christian or when we go to heaven?

[@Audio_Bible_Malti]

Great Bible teaching, however one can forfeit their salvation. The very verse you're quoting says it. It would be better if they did not know the way. If you were in the way, then you're out of the way (Salvation).

[@OnoDiamante]

How does one forfeit their sonship?

[@kenkenkai1295]

⁠@@OnoDiamanteby behaving the same way as the wicked Ezekiel 18:26 26 When a righteous man turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and dieth in them; for his iniquity that he hath done shall he die.

[@OnoDiamante]

@@kenkenkai1295 Is salvation dependent upon man’s righteousness? Does context matter to you?

[@kenkenkai1295]

@@OnoDiamante I’m new to Christianity and it’s hard to follow a doctrine. If every single one(by different teachers)of them keeps contradicting each other and I’m looking towards the Bible looking for an explanation and how does this verse not clearly tell you that someone who goes and lives in sin will be sent to hell. And you didn’t respond to my last message isn’t God talking about free gracers in Jude 1-3??? I’m honestly not trying to be annoying. I just need answers(respectfully).

[@OnoDiamante]

@@kenkenkai1295 If you’re new to Christianity, then maybe you should focus on learning and studying under a prepared Pastor, rather than commenting uninformed opinions. I’ll allow you to apply Jude 1:4 to myself if you can provide any evidence of me turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness or denying the Lord.

[@JEBBY123IFY]

Mark 13: 12-13 can you explain what the last sentence means about the one who endures to the end shall be saved?

[@OnoDiamante]

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[@oppttimuspprime7383]

Smh I need help, Gods pretty much called me to be a teacher because people ask me many questions and the spirit pretty much talks through me and I can’t help it. I still struggle with many sins and I feel unworthy and need help.

[@robertace1703]

Where it says they deny the lies who bought them does that mean the false prophets are saved?

[@robertomoreno3364]

You have a video for Spirt Baptism?

[@OnoDiamante]

I touch on it here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eYemhnVrgZWFqZo

[@TANKS3V3N]

What's the Holy Spirit's role in the Christians life once one is saved?

[@kylecomeaux7000]

To guide us help us in times of hopelessness Bring to our memory His Holy Scripture and litterally a million other things Our God is Almighty and Mighty to Save His People.

[@TANKS3V3N]

​@@kylecomeaux7000 Does He help us to choose not to sin, or put it on our heart to change if we are in sin? To help us lessen or avoid chastisement? Would that be a correct statement?

[@kylecomeaux7000]

As long as we dwell within this flesh and until we are glorified in Him, we will stumble. The Holy Spirit will cause us to run to Jesus and not away from Him. His mercy endures forever. He has chastised me and I glorify His name in it, be thankful In All things. Be Anxious for Nothing

[@Jesussolos777]

@@TANKS3V3N nah we’ll still sin due to our flesh unfortunately

[@BCDC123]

@@TANKS3V3N Here’s an example that might help. When I was struggling with fornication, I read scripture specifically 1 Corinthians Chpt. 6 verses 12 - 20 that speaks on fornication and that our bodies are the temple of the Holy Ghost. After reading this body of scripture I felt conviction to stop. I had been disrespecting His temple and I had to share this revelation with my ex-fiancée who I was fornicating with. The Holy Spirit is our teacher, He leads us into all truth and show us things to come. John Chpt. 16 verse 13 Without Him I would not be able to understand scripture. And in times of hurt He brings me comfort as I pray for comfort. He is also our comforter as Jesus said in John Chpt. 14 verse 26 We receive Him when we have placed our faith in Jesus after we have heard the gospel Ephesians Chpt. 1 verse 14 I’m sure the Holy Spirit does a lot of great things that we may not know about but hopefully in the references I have provided this can help you understand Him and some of the things He does much more. SORRY FOR TYPING A BOOK but I hope this helps.

[@MetanoiaAndBelieve]

I just want to know something that bothers me: ive been water baptized. Ive had someone where i go speak things to me that sounded like truth. Which in turn confused me. Which then led me to ask God on more than 1 occasion to forgive me for being water baptized. I would then run back to God asking him to forgive me for asking for forgivenss. To this day i still am confused on the matter and i NEED to understand....i NEED to know if God will forgive me for all this... Idk if I've rejected water baptism idk if mine was valid for lack of true understanding. I really don't know but im a wreck and need healing and a miracle. PLEASE HELP ME! 😢

[@AkeemKN]

If you are born again you are forgiven for all your sins, past, present, and future, and are eternally sealed by the Holy Spirit for the day of redemption. You must be born of the Spirit, not water baptism. Christ’s sacrifice on the cross is a one time payment for all sin. We received the gift of eternal life from God when we believe in the Lord Jesus Christ. Water baptism is not a requirement for salvation. Being water baptized is a sign of allegiance to the Lord, and you shouldn’t apologize for being water baptized. We are saved by grace through faith alone, not of works, lest anyone should boast. Getting baptized is a work.

[@MetanoiaAndBelieve]

@@AkeemKN amen. Until the Lord places it on me to be water baptized I won't do it. I trust in Jesus alone to save me. I received Jesus Christ by faith and so I will walk and live in Jesus Christ by faith.

[@AkeemKN]

@@MetanoiaAndBelieve there’s nothing wrong with water baptism. Water baptism is for after you’re saved. I would recommend water baptism, but since you already did it it’s not necessary to do it again, and as long as it’s not confused to do anything with your salvation. If you don’t feel drawn by God to do it again, don’t, but there’s no need to apologize or ask for forgiveness to go through a water baptism to express an outward testimony of faith in Christ. Your testimony of how you came to be saved can help others.

[@childofgodministries96]

Does this mean you can lose your salvation? Luke 12:46-47 New Living Translation (NLT)The master will return unannounced and unexpected, and he will cut the servant in pieces and banish him with the unfaithful. “And a servant who knows what the master wants, but isn't prepared and doesn't carry out those instructions, will be severely punished.

[@freegraceau]

Never ever again use an NLT translation, it’s utter crap. Get a KJV and if you can’t understand it, use a NKJV to reference.

[@bluwng]

Much was given to Mr Gates and Pelosi and they are so far from good it’s insane. Why is much not required from those types?

[@lasselarsen6704]

Onorato if a child of God has ADHD religious OCD stress depression anxiety is it that person on fault they have all those problems in their lift even they are a child of God ? I would say no also when we read about job he suddenly got many problems over him was it his own fault no because bad things happen to saved people and unsaved people how can we know we are being chastised ?

[@J_SavedbyGrace_Eph28]

Good point I am suffering as well and would like to know.

[@Lee-em3lw]

Hi could you make a video about "The door" christian youtube channel, he has 150k subscribers, Michael Pearl in his latest video says its possible to fall away and lose your salvation by outsinning the grace of god which I think is a very dangerous doctrine to preach, he has even stated that while preaching he told people that they're on their way to hell cause they said to him that they used to be saved

[@christistruth3112]

if its just chastisement hiw can end be worse than beginning ? if they are end up saved

[@owlsrawesome]

I think he’s trying to say the end (experientially / “in the flesh”) can be worse than the beginning (experientially). For example, God chastises with sickness and even death, so before Ananias and Sapphira were Christian, they were alive, but after they became Christian and misbehaved by lying about how much they gave to the church, they died. Same goes for the gluttonous Christians who overindulged in communion and got sick. I don’t know the truth anymore though, it does feel like a stretch.

[@jamiegustkey2573]

Well this is most likely why, for the past two years now, I feel as though I’ve lost my salvation. There will be no response to my post. But as someone who has trusted in Jesus as my savior since 2011, who was full of zeal, learning and blessed greatly… because I did not fully turn from my sin from before I knew Jesus, I am now in this cycle of feeling like I’ve lost my salvation, and listening to faith alone teachers, who lift my head above dark waters to barely breathe for a moment, convincing me in some manners that I can never lose my salvation and don’t need to do anything. Well I for starters do not want to sin. But I have. During most of my pilgrimage. Sexual immorality in thought and in deed to my own flesh. What I did even before knowing Jesus. Old terrible habits that did not fully subside after knowing Jesus, and learning from the Bible. So I in essence get the maximum penalty that this verse speaks of. My seeds have been sown, I’m reaping the harvest. I’m tired. I try to pray and find some sense that I haven’t lost my salvation. Probably 95% of Ono’s videos give to me confidence and security. Just like others I’ve pursued since having this feeling. But then honestly, I see this video and I’m back to feeling uncertainty and terrifying thoughts of being separated from God. Oh but wait, I can go back to other verses that say I will never cast you out…. Oh but wait, the ‘do not be deceived’ verses… I’m back to feeling ashamed and saddened. It’s too much. I believe in Jesus as my savior- I know what He has done, and what His promises are. Bottom line, I’m guilty of sin. Guilty of not fully turning from what I knew I should have. Ohhhh poor me. No. I deserve the wrath of God. I’m guilty. I know Jesus died for my sin. But with so many verses that seem to be to me , apparently an untrained mind, all of these other verses convict me, and what I have been feeling for the last two years is ultimately true. God has most likely taken His Spirit from me, because I have grieved Him. It’s bad, that as someone who thought they were in Christ, who knew the Bible, could go astray and realize that I never paid close enough attention to my obedience, and in trying to please the Lord… I thought I was. And ALL OF IT… not in a legal sense or out of merit, but strictly for relationship. So many verses that I didn’t notice over the years that seem to be like a warning to me… hey, if you don’t DO this or STOP that… well then you WONT inherit this or experience this. I’ve let God down. He’s blessed me my whole life. Gave me to His Son. Jesus forgave me of my sin. I was gifted the Spirit. And in various ways I trampled under foot all of God’s Grace! My 12 year old daughters favorite verse is the pure of heart will see God. I have failed God. And others will say, it’s not about what you do, it’s only about faith. I know that’s what it says… but I’m condemned by all the other verses and by the clarity in which my soul feels like God has removed His Spirit. Just like what happened to Saul. I even feel as though I have a tormenting spirit on top of it. There’s nothing for me to do but pray. I need to stop looking for videos and teachers of Grace, to help me. Only the Lord my God can give to me what I pray for if He’s willing. Thank you for your work in Jesus Ono.

[@fgagaerhjhjyfyjfyyjkf]

Then the bible never should’ve had verses like whosoever shall call upon the name of the lord shall be saved and believe on the lord Jesus and thou shalt be saved, it shouldve said whosoever shall call upon the name shall be saved for a time, so long as he strives to maintain and doesn’t turn away

[@SOG8014]

What is with all these ministries blowing up casting demons out of Christian’s etc

[@SavingSoulsMinistries]

It garnishes a lot of views and attention . Lots of potential to capitalize off of its deception. People taking notes on bob Larson who charge like 400 dollars a person for over the phone deliverance. Follow the money 💰 follow the views and shares 😩

[@christistruth3112]

i think its about false prophets

[@shiningWarrior7]

Revelation 2:12-16 KJV And to the angel of the church in Pergamos write; These things saith he which hath the sharp sword with two edges; I know thy works, and where thou dwellest, even where Satan’s seat is: and thou holdest fast my name, and hast not denied my faith, even in those days wherein Antipas was my faithful martyr, who was slain among you, where Satan dwelleth. But I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a stumblingblock before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication. So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, which thing I hate. Repent; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth. Scripture quotations are from The Holy Bible, King James Version. Hast not denied my faith . Even in those days wherein antipas was my faithful martyr who was slain among you where Satan dwellers . BUT I HAVE A FEW THINGS AGAINST THEE, BECAUSE THOU HAST THERE THEM THAT HOLD THE DOCTRINE OF BALAAM WHO TAUGHT BALAC TO CAST A STUMBLING BLOCK BEFORE THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL , TO EAT THINGS SACRIFICED UNO IDOLS , AND TO COMMIT FORNICATIONS. SO HAST THOU ALSO THEM THAT HOLD THE DOCTRINE OF THE NICOLAITANS , WHICH THING I HATE . !!!!!REPENT ; OR ELSE I WILL COME UNTO THEE QUICKLY ,AND WILL FIGHT AGAINST THEM WITH THE SWORD OF MY MOUTH¡¡¡¡¡¡¡ Stay away from his doctrine !!

[@Wretched90]

This is about the Roman Papacy

[@niallbroussard6353]

“Divine discipline” in this physical life or in the next? @ontorato

[@OnoDiamante]

This life.

[@niallbroussard6353]

Thank you brother! And thank you for all you do!

[@AbrahamAdeyemiOSAS]

Psalms 119:67 Before I was afflicted I went astray: but now have I kept thy word.

[@heckbr2]

I usually agree with your interpretations, but I don’t agree with this one. Many commentators admit that “they” in verse 20 is ambiguous. It may refer to false teachers or their victims. But “they” usually refers to false teachers throughout the entire chapter, while “you” is Peter’s saved audience, whom God knows how to rescue from trials (verse 9). Regardless, I don’t think anyone in verses 17-22 is saved. Verse 17 says the false teachers are reserved for gloomy darkness (hell- see verse 4). And verse 22 illustrates that their nature never actually changed. Eventually they gave into what they were enslaved to: sin. Also, just because they escaped by the knowledge of the Lord doesn’t mean they were saved. Verse 21 says they knew “the WAY of righteousness.” But nowhere does it say they believed it unto salvation. In fact, the entire passage is about how their true nature never really changed, even though they escaped defilement for a time. They eventually went back to what they were, slaves to sin who never came to faith. This reminds me of 1 John 2:19, where the false teachers “went out from us (the apostles)” but were never “of us” and “they went out that it might become plain that they are not of us.” And since the false teachers in 2 Peter knew the way of righteousness and rejected it, they’re now more accountable and their end is even worse. So it’s more consistent to view “they” as false teachers throughout this passage. God bless!

[@OnoDiamante]

In my opinion, the language is indicative of a believer. In chapter 1, “that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, HAVING ESCAPED the corruption that is in the world through lust.” In chapter 2, “For if after they HAVE ESCAPED the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ” The believer is secure in Christ positionally, so the false teacher’s purpose is to bring them back into bondage experientially rendering them unfruitful.

[@heckbr2]

@@OnoDiamante Fair enough. Thanks for clarifying your position. You have a good point. I honestly think "they" in verse 20 could apply to both false teachers and believers "barely escaping." Verse 15 is a parallel to 20, and 15 definitely applies to false teachers who "have forsaken the right way and gone astray." In the case of the false teachers, they were never positionally saved and eventually return to their true sin nature where their end state (eternal punishment) is worse than before (chp. 2 is largely about these false teachers being proven as such). But if "they" is believers, their experiential/fellowship state is now worse than when they came to faith since they're again mired in sin and corruption. Peter (under the influence of the Spirit) might have intentionally left "they" ambiguous so the message would apply (in different ways) to both false teachers and struggling believers. I still think, however, especially with verse 22 in the immediate context, that 20 is mostly about false teachers though. I don't see how verse 22 would then apply to a believer whose positional state and nature has changed. But I would say both of our interpretations are biblical. Thanks again for your response!

[@OnoDiamante]

@@heckbr2 No problem! I’m open to considering any interpretation consistent with the true Gospel. I’m consistently refining my commentaries on these harder passages. God bless!

[@heckbr2]

@@OnoDiamante same here! Thanks for your insights as well and God bless! Thanks also for your ministry and service for our Lord. I find your videos very edifying and the Free Grace understanding of salvation so clarifying and biblical. Those contradictory or difficult passages are finally making sense to me after hearing so many reformed interpretations. I now have so much more peace and desire for living for Christ.

[@JesusPuissancedevie]

@OnoDiamante @heckbr2 Hello, thank you for the video and for the comments! As an OSAS believer, this text of 2P is the one I struggle the most with. When I read the passage starting at verse 10 for example until the end of the chapter, as heckbr2 mentioned, I counted 11 times the word « they » and 2 times « these ». Over and over, when the author speaks about the false teachers he says they they they they…. So I find really very difficult to suggest that he two « they » of the verses 20-22 would suddenly speak about other people (the new believers seduced by them of verse 18). Especially also because, after mentioning the new believers seduced, there are two more « they » in the verse 19 still speaking about the false teachers, and because the new believers are never the subject of any phrase. Considering the structure of the passage it seems natural to consider « they » as being the false teachers in verses 20-22. We know that they are lost people (v.17 and also by the fact they are called « they », in contrast with the believers called « you » or « beloved » 2P3:1). My problem is that the description of v.20-22 fits with true believers, for the reason OnoDiamante gave in his reply and his video but mainly also because the words the author uses for the words « knowledge » and « known » are in greek the words epignosis and epignosko. These words describe an accurate, precise or true knowledge, unlike the word gnosis which means knowledge in a broader sense and which could mean intellectual knowledge for instance. The word epignosis attached to « the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ » (v.20) should designate believers as it is used also in verses 2 « the knowledge (epignosis) of God and Jesus our Lord » and in verse 3 « the knowledge (epignosis) of him who called us » while the author write to the recipients of the letter who are born again believers. Paul also use this word abundantly in his epistles to speak about believers. So here I’m stucked with the text until now: in verses 20-22, « they » points naturally to unbelievers who are lost but « epignosis » points to believers. This causes me difficulties do defend OSAS theology with this text as long as I do not find an answer to it. Any help would be welcome :-) @OnoDiamante thank you very much for your channel !!!

[@sneakysnake2330]

This interpretation makes very little sense. If they had never come to know the way of righteousness, then the punishment for them is Hell. Under your view, however, the punishment for he who does come to the knowledge of the truth and then falls away still goes to heaven but is disciplined by God. In no way is the latter scenario worse than the first. It makes far more sense in the latter scenario if the person is damned again and receives a harsher judgement and punishment. That interpretation makes sense of the data, whereas yours seems to suggest the opposite, that the latter scenario is actually the better one.

[@jonathan711]

Good point… and correct

[@owlsrawesome]

Could it be that the end experientially (but not spiritually / positionally) can be worse than the beginning experientially? For example, the gluttonous Christians who overindulged in communion would’ve been fine if they were gluttonous pagans who didn’t know any better, but because they had become Christian, they were held to a higher standard and were punished with sickness and death for that act?

[@Lee-rp7dl]

These christians became condemned, verse 3.

[@errettungdurchglauben-fait1850]

Hmmm I dont know... sounds like we would stand by works... but the Scriptures are clear that we stand by faith and there is not ONE that doeth good at all... this intperpretation could lead to legalism and to understanding that if you do certain works you stand good with God... much prayer is needed for the interpretation of such passages...

[@John_3verse16]

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[@CyberUser_055]

What's your job?

[@markboard1966]

Disobey the Lord , your suffer for it . 🤣

[@eurekayankee6690]

damnable heresy

[@mikefun7482]

why?

[@eurekayankee6690]

@@mikefun7482 i just wanted to say it at the time idk

[@mikefun7482]

have you thought about it since tho brother?@@eurekayankee6690

[@vinci1234560]

Sooo if 2 Peter 2 says it would have been better for them to not have known righteousness than to turn away completely, (paraphrasing) doesn't the punishment for the apostate sound more terrible? The unbeliever has no chance whatsoever to attain God's kingdom but the apostate will just be asked to stand in the naughty corner. Yeah right! False teacher alert..

[@OnoDiamante]

Why would it be better to never have known the way of salvation from Hell?

[@HisGloriousGrace]

Wouldnt this just be talking about false prophets? False prophets are worse off then they were already if they know the truth but reject it? Nowhere in the passage is chastisement mentioned and if it is about chastisement, i doubt were worse off then we were before we were saved. Hell is worse then the chastening of God. The entire context is about false prophets.

[@fakeyououtdotcom2409]

How ironic that the preacher of this message is the false teacher. The evidence is found in a simple question: If God reconciled THE WORLD (meaning EVERYONE) to Himself in Christ and is no longer holding sin against them, does Christianity and Catholicism preach Christ? The answer is no because Christians and Catholics believe people's sins are being held against them.

[@angelofthegospel1611]

He actually completely misinterprets this passage 2 Peter 2 18 For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, *those that were clean escaped from them who live in error.* So he says the latter are the ones being deceived, not the deceiver. Ok. 19 While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: That's the deceiver *for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage. 20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world* Pause. He seriously argues that these are the deceived, not the deceivers. He says these are believers. It makes absolutely no sense because even with the way he's reading it, the "for" keeps connecting all these conditions with "the servants of corruption". He agrees the servants of corruption are the false prophets, not the saved. *through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ,* they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. 21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. 22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire. knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ" is not the same as believing the gospel. Because its possible to "aknowledge him" but as a God and then you get rejected (reprobated) 21 Because that, *when they knew God, they glorified him not as God*, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Romans 1:21

[@OnoDiamante]

Are these people saved? 3 According as his divine power hath given unto US all things that pertain unto life and godliness, THROUGH THE KNOWLEDGE of him that hath called us to glory and virtue: 4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, HAVING ESCAPED THE CORRUPTION that is in the world through lust.

[@angelofthegospel1611]

@@OnoDiamante Obviously its not about saved people its about people who were about to be saved but denied like in Hebrew 6 Obviously its not about salvation loss because salvation can not be lost its eternal amen. Just seen it as a big stretch by your side. God bless

[@OnoDiamante]

@@angelofthegospel1611 So those that escaped the corruption in chapter 1 are different than those that “escaped the pollutions of the world” in chapter 2?

[@angelofthegospel1611]

@@OnoDiamante Yeah because the whole chapter is about the deceivers starting with Damnable heretics in chapter 2

[@OnoDiamante]

@@angelofthegospel1611 That’s a big stretch on your part. The same people that “escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust” (2 Peter 1:4) are the same people who “escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord” (2 Peter 2:20). It’s referring to the saved, that’s who is being warned of false prophets among them (2 Peter 2:1).