Better Gear - Line 6 Spider IV 15 - A Recording Amp???

[@AudioPilz]

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[@notrealy180217]

That Kyuss/desert song was sick

[@AudioPilz]

Thanks!

[@inthefade]

Less Kyuss, more... Karma to Burn... or a less-heavy SloBurn? It doesn't quite have the same feel as Homme's licks, but it's got something special of its own. So... It is quite f***ing good! I'm just learning to play guitar after being a synth/drum machine nerd for 20+ years, and I can only dream of nailing that tone so damn well; I drooled.

[@BrianRRenfro]

*Marshall Fans Were All* "That sounds like I thought it would. Quite a fair comparison!" *Line 6 Teenagers Were All* "This is dildos!"

[@AudioPilz]

Had some really tasty discussions on FB about that topic ;)

[@yikelu]

It feels ironic that in the 20 or so year history of amp simulation that one of the biggest things we all learned is how the cabinet sound is as important if not more important than the direct sound of the amp. So much fuss was made about and engineering time spent on the magic of tubes (and don't get me wrong, they're still a big deal, glad the modeling has improved so much) when manufacturers would have been better off really honing the skill of making quality cabinet simulations (IR or otherwise).

[@AudioPilz]

So true!

[@bradyscher7224]

Bringing up the microkorg then the line 6 is bringing me back to my origins of playing music, had a line 6 spider 3 amp and a line 6 interface with some line 6 software, and I played it so much

[@AudioPilz]

Not the worst way to start

[@franklucas9313]

love that you use the M1 00 patch universe in the intro!

[@AudioPilz]

Classic audio logo!

[@johnnythreshold]

my new favourite bleep bloop channel referencing my fav genre x

[@AudioPilz]

Thanks! Damn, guitar gear is fun, too...

[@Gainn]

On an old Line 6 one I stripped to make a talkbox out of the front grille came off for speaker replacement.

[@AudioPilz]

Cool idea!

[@MarkBayfieldvillageidiot]

Extremely tasty. Love the desert rock riffage.

[@AudioPilz]

Thanks!

[@XnazxulX]

Yeah sounds great for desert rock. Blues metal like old great white would sound good with it too i bet.

[@AudioPilz]

Yeah, interesting tones

[@DarkTapes]

I have an old Line 6 POD XT and LOVE it. It's my go-to for my basic small studio setup. It's from 2002 and holds up well against modern emulation of today. It would be great to convert these spider amps into heads.

[@AudioPilz]

Isn't that basically what we did?

[@DarkTapes]

@@AudioPilz ahhhhhhhhhhh actually, yes. But maybe in a custom head casing with some cool spiderman themed tolex if that ever exists?!

[@AudioPilz]

@@DarkTapes SPIDERPIG!!!

[@DarkTapes]

@@AudioPilz ahahaha!!! precisely! OO.. a line 6 spider stuffed into a pignose amp: spiderpig.

[@DanielGarcia-kw4ep]

Still waiting for the volca sample video Btw, I'm very amazed by your modding skills, congrats man :D

[@AudioPilz]

Thanks! Working on it 💪

[@paraworldblue]

Hey, the Sample is amazing gear......... with one GLARING exception, which is the absolutely bizarre audio-based data transfer system, which was somehow released in a time when USB, SD, and microSD all existed and were all commonly found in much cheaper electronics. It's great that they've finally addressed it in the Sample 2 (though they also made it harder for Pajen to mod, so it's kind of a wash), but it took them like 6 years to do it! WTF KORG, YOU'RE BETTER THAN THIS!

[@_functionless]

I watch all your videos now! Your presentations are so fun and I like your style. looking forward to more!!!!!!!!!! :)

[@AudioPilz]

Thanks!

[@NullFX]

Still watching ads I'm just gonna say I love my Line 6 amps and don't care what gear snobs say.

[@AudioPilz]

Big L6 fan here. The Spider IV 15 cab was total trash, though...

[@NullFX]

@@AudioPilz heavy agree lol. I don't know why they put that one out. It sounds nothing like any of their other amps. Especially that crunch channel like you mentioned in the video.

[@HCWz-_-Over9000]

@@AudioPilz Can I record headphone out audio on a Line 6 Spider 4?

[@danielhodkin2120]

Possible mod suggestion if you manage to actually yank the back panel off. If you drill a hole through the back panel mount a jack socket to it wire the built in amp output plus and minus to one side and the other to the speaker you can insert a jack breaking the feed to the built in speaker and use any cab you want using a long speaker cable so long as the external cab has the right impedance

[@AudioPilz]

You want the adult version?;)

[@danielhodkin2120]

AudioPilz some of the coolest stuff comes from messing around with stuff or using something in a way it wasn’t intended for example the original pro co rat pedal gets its sound from the fact it’s op amp was not built for handling guitar signals hence it’s less fizzy fuzz tone. When I saw this video it made me think of this kzbin.info/www/bejne/n4bNp6aCj615mLM while not the same it shows what adaptability can offer. If it wasn’t for les Paul Frankensteining two tape recorders together we wouldn’t have had multitrack recording for as long as we have. Keep up the great work and keep exploring

[@8-BitHeart79]

So, just an observation... I really love that this channel is different. Every other channel usually bashes their dissenters as trolls or a**holes. But this channel really tries to see the other side. I appreciate that brother. I’ve never been a dissenter on this channel before but I have given honest criticism on others and just bashed for it. So, good on you, brother.

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you so much!

[@Rompler_Rocco]

This has certainly been a crash course in good bad gear and fucking killer Austrian artistry 👍👍

[@AudioPilz]

The land of Mozart, Schwarzenegger and the one that gets you demonetized 😂😂😂

[@kassemir]

Man. Taking out all of the screws to discover it was glued on. I can see why that would've been really annoying. I can only imagine they do it for shipping so it doesn't rattle loose. But, still, kinda overkill :)

[@AudioPilz]

Here at Bad/Better Gear we go the extra mile ;)

[@Nitsua_Atayha]

I'm actually slaving my 15 watt spider 4 through a peavy 4x10 cab loaded with electro voice speakers and it's really the only set up I need and its plenty loud enough for any gig I've played and it takes pedals surprisingly well

[@AudioPilz]

Yeah, it pumps out quite some power

[@tranka6112]

Es ist oag, wie viel besser das Teil jetzt klingt... aber wirklich überzeugt hat es mich leider auch net... es mumpft so eigenartig ;) Ich sage auf jeden Fall: Danke, Florian! Jetzt weiss ich wieso mich diese all-in-one Teile immer so skeptisch gemacht haben.

[@AudioPilz]

Gern geschehen

[@ErikEkholm]

Where is Vienna located?

[@AudioPilz]

Vienna, Virginia

[@Rompler_Rocco]

Virginia, but pretty sure they filmed this one in the posh suburbs of Josefstadt, Florida

[@danaowens30]

It can be done . Put a output 1/4 inch female connection in the back Use a D.I box into your recorder clean sound.

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you for the feedback!!!

[@danaowens30]

All i did was discontect the speaker wires and turned into a 1/4 lead wire out and you can wire that bsby in any size cab you choose and also direct D.I passive box into my Korg D3200 no hum no buzz no ring no feedback. For a 15 watt amp its very powerfull especially when i use myRoland GP 8 or 16 or my Boss GT 3,GT5 GT6 or GT8 sounds fantastic with my Digitech RP-20 valve modded.

[@notrealy180217]

It would be cool to see a rundown on the popular Yamaha THR10 series of amps

[@AudioPilz]

Oh, those vintage looking ones. I will take a look

[@marcofioravanti4176]

Also: Very nice guitars shown here, btw. 🙂

[@AudioPilz]

Yeah, Mats got quite a collection!

[@Batman83]

I recommend the Micron for bad gear

[@AudioPilz]

Already searching the classifieds for one

[@8-BitHeart79]

AudioPilz reverb.com has several. 😁

[@cedwards427]

Maybe it is just my Micron, but every preset has the same parameters mapped to the knobs and sliders, and for some sounds that just isn't ideal. I started mapping the knobs to other parameters and then got bored and it has been in the box ever since. The size is perfect for what it is. If it had an IEC connector for power that would improve it as well. Damn, now I want to go get it out of the box.

[@videomove]

nice, mehr davon!

[@mikehydropneumatic2583]

Bad gear is one thing, just bought an Alesis Strike Multipad. But I am bad at rhythm and aiming the sticks. I am a legend!

[@AudioPilz]

I feel you, same here;)

[@apoplexiamusic]

DESERT ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!

[@AudioPilz]

Feel Good Hit Of The Summer

[@BOUZOUKI_PETE]

peavey deuce! run a groovebox through the built in phaser and the tube power amp👊🏻

[@AudioPilz]

Played a Peavey bass amp for years, love these!

[@FOCtv]

The Spider IV should have a direct out which I think uses impulse response cabs. Maybe that sounds better than mic'ing the amp?

[@AudioPilz]

Didn't have much luck with the headphone output of the small Spider. Maybe it works better with the larger models

[@FOCtv]

@@AudioPilz 'Didn't have much luck' meaning it wasn't working properly or that it sounded like crap :) If I remember correctly, the larger models use the same IR response output. Anyway thanks for exploring this topic.

[@hstagm]

@@FOCtv It sounds like absolutely crap. I have this amp and the line out is just unusable.

[@eightcoins4401]

I know im a bit late, but is there objectively bad Guitar Amp Sound? Of course, an unmodded Spider would be awful for someone playing Classic Rock or Traditional Heavy Metal, which while being distorted, still need a bit of a clean sound. But for Noise Rock and Industrial that sound is pretty amazing, since with most other amps its impossible to achieve that kind of compressed sound without external effects. And at the same time the Spider Line of Amps is pretty cheap

[@AudioPilz]

True that but there is always a (subjective) difference between the good ugly and the bad ugly;)

[@markdrifter]

Korg Monotron Delay- Bad Gear challenge! go go go :)

[@AudioPilz]

Damn, I like those cute little things so much

[@AudioPilz]

Don't forget to check out the original Bad Gear episode: kzbin.info/www/bejne/np26fqmrh5Kcl9E

[@xisotopex]

desert rock guitar riffs? like kyuss?

[@AudioPilz]

'xactly ;)

[@sonikmuff]

Line-6: "dial in a tone that doesn't suck"

[@AudioPilz]

It's possible ;)

[@LouisSerieusement]

3:29 it makes me wanna go back to smoking weed and listen to Kyuss very loud XD

[@AudioPilz]

...or driving a car on a straight road through the desert and hoping for the cops not to show up ;)

[@LouisSerieusement]

@@AudioPilz lol ! I used to really love desert rock, then I switched to acid techno in a only a few month somehow ; I wondered how many rock musicians went to a free party and then immediatly switched to electronic music making, I'm confident there are a lot of us ^^

[@drumbran]

Could you use the output directly into an interface without needing to mod it ?

[@AudioPilz]

Headphone out should work but it will certainly not sound very nice

[@drumbran]

@@AudioPilz thanks for your response ! I just purchased the line six spider 15 classic today (though I’ve used one in my teaching studio for about 3 years ) I actually really like it a lot . To me the key is dialing in the effects super lightly . Really nice to be able to just plug in and go and not fuss with many chords and pedals to get some basic subtle effects . it’s a very underrated practice amp imo , I’d also absolutely use it for recording ! Though you were right about the direct output . It was quite noisey for me. Cheers ! Love your stuff

[@SisterRose]

What Jag is that?? it looks amazing. in the market for a HH guitar and I love offsets

[@AudioPilz]

Damn, I have to ask Mats. Nice axe!

[@OlegUstimenko]

Fender modern player jazzmaster hh

[@SisterRose]

What amp model was used for the Kyuss type tones?

[@AudioPilz]

One side metal, one side insane (if I remember correctly)

[@MURDOCKROCK]

Sorry to ask a dumb question, but how is using the mod to bypass the speaker different than just using the record out?

[@AudioPilz]

The record out bypasses the power amp which has a significant impact on the sound when pushed

[@MURDOCKROCK]

@@AudioPilz ah ok... but does’t the record out need the amp to amplify the signal? Does it use a separate amp? I actually have this amp, so you really caught my interest. Love this channel btw. I also have a recommendation for some bad gear. if you don’t mind futzing with old smart media cards you might have some fun with the Korg electribe ES-1 sampler. It’s low sample rate is pretty grimy. Cheers!

[@sebioloieri]

John also likes to show of his guitars

[@AudioPilz]

He actually asked me to implement a guitar counter;)

[@sebioloieri]

@@AudioPilz haha, man I love his guitars, especially the Gibson with the weird pickups, never saw such ones haha... Greetings from Niederösterreich

[@danielhertzmaybe]

holy shit, i've always somehow kind of disliked rock and anything heavily reliant on electric guitars but these jams you gys pulled out absolutely blew my mind

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you so much!

[@zachboswell2481]

Is that an Every Time I Die t-shirt?

[@AudioPilz]

Of course it is ;)

[@marcomaureira]

i'm new to the channel and i already love it! great video, do you have a recommendation for a cheap drum machine that's actually good ? (cheap being less than 500 euro)

[@AudioPilz]

Jomox all the way. It's expensive but you can probably find one used

[@mkenny17]

it sounds nasty, but the good kind of nasty. can imagine where this would work.

[@AudioPilz]

True, the speaker was indeed the weak link

[@paulrandomar757]

This channel is crazy. Please make a video about the worst sampler Beat thang

[@AudioPilz]

Working on it

[@saftpackerl]

@@AudioPilz sogar grad einen in Purkersdorf auf Willhaben :O

[@paulrandomar757]

@@AudioPilz Scheisse du kannst ja Deutsch. Warum schreibe ich auf Englisch?😅

[@AudioPilz]

@@paulrandomar757 vielleicht wollen ja ein paar English Native Speaker auch mitmachen;)

[@chrishopkins209]

Guitarists are probably having meltdowns about fitting a speakon connector. Bassists are chilled as we’re not luddites

[@AudioPilz]

How old are speakons? 30 years? 40 years?

[@chrishopkins209]

AudioPilz according to Google - 33 years

[@grunions9648]

Why?

[@coolvibesradio3267]

with all the choices that we have nowadays we're still talking about the line6 spider ??? somebody call Glenn

[@AudioPilz]

It's a fun little amp with a very bad speaker

[@coolvibesradio3267]

@@AudioPilz it deserves better treatment... like an AK47

[@MrOuija-rr8kq]

Beat it 2:33

[@AudioPilz]

Great riff!

[@armenianzombie]

Just stopping in to say, I respect the guitar drip. All sick offbeat choices.

[@AudioPilz]

Thanks!

[@bentsound]

Desert Rock = Stoner Rock. Do you really call it Desert Rock or or is that just the KZbin friendly name?

[@AudioPilz]

The answer is: yes and yes ;) en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_Desert_Scene

[@Stadsjaap]

You have of course scoured the Gear Haters Facebook page for ideas... right? 😉

[@AudioPilz]

Me? Never!😂😂😂

[@finonomastropiero4261]

Damn, i recenlty sold my line6

[@AudioPilz]

They're cheap...

[@hstagm]

I have this amp and its a trash for metal. The sounds what the amp produces are realy crazy.

[@AudioPilz]

It's a strange product

[@helio1055]

wtf is “desert rock” lmfao

[@AudioPilz]

The tame version of the genre name that gets you demonetized on YT;)

[@helio1055]

AudioPilz rather listen to the shags

[@gelatinous6915]

I fucking hate that amp. Glenn Fricker smashed one with a sledgehammer after trying it out, I laughed.

[@AudioPilz]

Legend!

[@zanderkagle4508]

Worst most complicated synth Roland D10

[@AudioPilz]

Thanks for the input. Those things are a nightmare to use

[@virtuosomaximoso1]

Nope, still sounds bad.

[@AudioPilz]

Not everybody's cup of tea

[@lazylegolars]

The metal sounds suck regardless.

[@AudioPilz]

So true!