Better Japanese Maple 'Deshojo' Nebari - (Rootwork after layering and cuttings)

How do you create the best nebari after airlayering or even taking cuttings of Japanese maple bonsai?
Over spring I took airlayers and cuttings of 'Deshojo' Japanese Maples. This video shows how to work the roots and other steps in the aftercare of successful cuttings and airlayers. Follow these steps to create better nebari and have healthy growth in the year after propagation.
Separating airlayers with success: • Potting up air layers ...
Rooting Japanese maple cuttings: • Rooting Japanese Maple...
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[@murphyorama]

I think you're correct about pond baskets. I have also found very dry roots with trees in these baskets despite careful regular watering. I think the original idea was for Pines and I am going to restrict this method to Pines.

[@GrowingBonsai]

Yeah, pines are also why people started using pond baskets!

[@jiijino_bonsai_ch]

Deshojo maple is beautiful.😍😍 i have it too🥰 Greetings from Japan.🤗✨

[@GrowingBonsai]

Ahh.. Japan, the home of gorgeous trees and people! I thik everybody should have a deshojo in the collection!

[@BlueJayBonsai]

Great job Jelle! So nice that you are propagating the deshojo to share or sell so more people have access! 🐦💙

[@GrowingBonsai]

Someone gotta do it!

[@bobcatbonsai]

Jelle that was a great success rate on your cuttings. I can't wait to try your technique next spring. Of course thank you again for another informative video!

[@GrowingBonsai]

You are so welcome!

[@XaviersBonsaiRetreat]

I'm glad you did this video because I have always been unsure about looking to check my cuttings in the autumn. I think I will do that tomorrow...or maybe now! Great success and well demonstrated too. Cheers, Xav

[@GrowingBonsai]

Glad it was helpful! buut.. If you are going to check on your tridents, remember to tell me whether my email through your webform reached you!

[@XaviersBonsaiRetreat]

@@GrowingBonsai I meant to say nothing came. I checked the email on my channel and it does work??

[@watsup6084]

Great success! Unfortunately i messed up and misplaced my cuttings so they got direct sunlight and were steamed alive :(. Thank you for that very in depth video.

[@abydosianchulac2]

I had a mental lapse and stuck the lychee seedling that had just emerged from the soil into full sunlight for warmth. Here's hoping I have another seed germinate to replace it. :-/

[@watsup6084]

@@abydosianchulac2 Bummer. Yeah it happens, we have to be more careful next time.

[@GrowingBonsai]

Oh no! No more dead trees would be good! Very happy to hear people are trying though!

[@gloriablanco7856]

Thank you 😊

[@GrowingBonsai]

Ever my pleasure

[@BONSAIenCORTO]

Thanks for sharing. Great development.

[@GrowingBonsai]

I am so happy with the outcome too! Now to keep those pesty blackbirds out!

[@houghtonbonsai]

Great success👏👏 Thanks for sharing

[@GrowingBonsai]

Thank you for your compliments!

[@ludwigcodjambassis8866]

Thanks Jelle I am very concern with this maple,... I started germinating some seeds I bought expensive last year... Now I have aroun 20 and want to propagate but is not easy... I am in souther Chile, start of Patagonia... All information is from northern emisphere, so I have fun trying to convert the seasons.... Actyally spring is on here, with still some cold days and wind... Lots of rain always, and a little lack of sun Still Iam doing well with local trees plus secuoya , oak and maple as outsiders Thanks and cheers from Patagonia

[@GrowingBonsai]

Hi Ludwig, all the way on the other side of the blue marble! Cool. I think it would be best to ensure your seedlings get some size before trying to propagate. You need strong shoots for best rooting!

[@TonysBonsai]

Nice haul of Deshojos there!

[@GrowingBonsai]

Thanks! Quite happy with the outcome myself!

[@corbodewits1350]

Dat was weer een heerlijk leer moment,dank je wel jelle. Zo mooi om te zien hoe u dat doet. Love it

[@GrowingBonsai]

Een fijne zondag gewenst! Helaas regent het niet, dus niet op de bank KZbin kijken vandaag :)

[@kurtdebree263]

Great tutorial again

[@GrowingBonsai]

Thanks again! Gut to see you here Kurt!

[@kurtdebree263]

@@GrowingBonsai I'm a subscriber from the first hour :-)

[@michaelmarshall9924]

Love watching and learning more about bonsais. Can you make a video of how you make your substrate?

[@GrowingBonsai]

Yes I can. In fact, it is 80% done and will come out over winter, probably early in 2023 right for potting season!

[@abydosianchulac2]

Hmm, I might be tempted to use those pond baskets with a slightly less breathable substrate if they're that prone to drying out quickly. My plants haven't taken up _quite_ as much of my schedule yet for me to care for them to that degree.

[@GrowingBonsai]

Good point!

[@pjqziggy]

Nice one

[@GrowingBonsai]

:) Thank you!

[@Bonsaiandknives]

It looks that your substrate contains almost no soil at all. Great success with your new plants. Regards, Andreas

[@GrowingBonsai]

Hi Andreas, if you mean, soil as in garden soil, there is none in there.

[@Bonsaiandknives]

@@GrowingBonsai maybe this is the trick why the roots are good

[@GrowingBonsai]

@@Bonsaiandknives Could be! Some blame my green fingers, but I doubt that is the reason :)

[@albarrogajr]

What substrate did you use?

[@peterjohnson350]

Well done on your successes. I tried growing black pines from seed which worked. I moved some into small pond baskets but they haven't grown as well as those in normal pots. So I agree with your thoughts. Didn't cost much to try though.

[@GrowingBonsai]

Great to hear! Trial and error will get us quite a long way, certainly when other people chip in with their results!

[@anathema157]

Very nice video❤

[@GrowingBonsai]

Thank you 🤗

[@harrietb2141]

Thank you Jelle🌳

[@GrowingBonsai]

Very welcome Harriet!

[@harrietb2141]

@@GrowingBonsai I don’t always comment, but I like your videos . I ’ve been doing bonsai a Very long time, but there is always something New to learn. ☺️

[@GrowingBonsai]

Nice! Glad to hear that even to more experienced these videos I make are a joy to watch!

[@harrietb2141]

@@GrowingBonsai yes , and I need more experience with maples.I had a Big collection with nativ trees, that I doug up in the nature. I worked with them for 15 years, and always replanting in the fall. It all worked Well , until 5 years ago. They all died . I was so depessed. But now I started with New trees.

[@johncontract6670]

Hi Jelle! This was a great video. I just purchased a Deshojo and will more than likely do some light pruning in fall. I'm wondering if you think I'd get success if I tried cuttings over winter indoors under grow lights. I realize you don't need a whole lot of light. Wondering if your technique might work instead of just tossing the cuttings.

[@GrowingBonsai]

Hi John, In winter one can take cuttings, but the methods are a little different. Look up "hardwood cuttings" and "winter propagation". Typically it means cuttings in moist sand, mostly burried and wait for spring. Then pot them up individually under shelter for the growing season

[@sbragaglia]

Nice video! Actually I should check the cuttings I took following your instructions to see how well they made…

[@GrowingBonsai]

Yes you should, and I hope to learn about your great results!

[@roberthill3970]

Hi Jelle, thank you for making these videos, I find them very helpful and informative. I just wanted to ask you to show what you call "the shed" - is this a greenhouse? I think after care is always very important. I am going to be taking maple cuttings and making air layers in spring 2024 having had some success with air layering this year. Thanks again Jelle, great videos. Regards, Robert.

[@GrowingBonsai]

Nah, it is just a single-brick, free-standing unheated garage

[@ArdArdArd123]

Hi Jelle, great vid. I have some European elm seedlings I collected this spring. They are in a seed tray and I would like to pot them up individually. Would this be a good time to do that?

[@GrowingBonsai]

Hi Ard, common advice would be to do this in spring as the buds are starting to open. If you have to, now might work but it is against common practice.

[@Naztalgic]

This was so useful Thank you Jelle. Quick question I want to trunk chop a 8ft Redpoint maple that i have purchased from a garden center. I want to trunk chop it this coming spring of 2024 take it down to about 1-2 foot hight its in a big half oak barrel pot right now. Question is Will it survive such a chop? and shuld i do it in winter not spring? so its dormant

[@GrowingBonsai]

I am NOT sure what a redpoint maple is. BUT, maple backbud very well from such actions, so no worries there. Make sure you chop low enough so you do not have to chop lower in a year or two to get decent taper.

[@natrjack965]

Please can I have stumpy what a lovely maple 🍁..Great video Jelle..

[@GrowingBonsai]

:) Thank you michael!

[@natrjack965]

@@GrowingBonsai I will pay you for postage if I may have one of your cutting or airlayers.

[@sadoldgit313]

Spring 2024 not so kind to Deshojo maples! Their papery new growth got battered by wind, roots swamped by constant rain, how I wish I had a Poly tunnel!

[@GrowingBonsai]

sorry to hear!

[@mchlbk]

Mine suffer too. I've lost one and had to do some emergency repots and shelter the rest from the wind and rain.

[@buonleo]

Hi, great job! Your potting soil looks very gritty, what's in it? PS your neighbour must have thought he was working hard while you were playing with your trees 😅

[@GrowingBonsai]

Yes it is! Do a quick search on my channel, there is a full length video. I think I called it, the best bonsai substrate!

[@greenmachinesweden]

Great vid and good results! Would you do hard prning on maples now or is it better wait til winter?

[@GrowingBonsai]

I am more int he field of waiting till later. Hard prune of course means a different thing to different people. But anything larger than a cm or maybe 2 I prefer to do over the growing season. But I am also a practical person and I work my trees when I have time, which does not always lead to the safest approach!

[@greenmachinesweden]

@@GrowingBonsai thanks. I think the sacrificial branch is 15mm now. It grows in an unfortunate angle on the trunk which means quite a big cut maybe 30 cm long and 15mm wide. Really I should have done it last summer.

[@GrowingBonsai]

@@greenmachinesweden Is there a reason to do it now? Could it wait till spring? You can always shorten it, and make the final cut in spring. (but 1.5cm is not all that thick. I am however concerned Sweden could have -5 in 2 weeks if weather turns)

[@greenmachinesweden]

@@GrowingBonsai the only reason beeing space limitations. I could cut partially, but that would not make a good video🤣😅. In my coastal climate constant temperatures below freezing is nowadays not until january. When they come, I always have 5c overwintering room.😀👍

[@sifisflisk7408]

Why is my deshojo only after 2 weeks in srproing has turned green even before summer

[@GrowingBonsai]

Maybe it is in the shade?

[@richardmutt1033]

Hi Jelle, i‘ve made the maple cuttings following your method in April, i think they’re doing well right now, so thank you for all the precious info! According to what have you said here, now i can slightly open the bag and then in october replant them all, right? (I live in Italy) I‘ve also tried to do some juniper cuttings but they’re not doing as well as the maples... is it possibile to put them in a bag too from your experience? Thanks in advance, i really appreciate you! Ps. I don’t know if you know something about Pine grafting, but that would be a very interesting argument for a video

[@GrowingBonsai]

Just be carefull that you do not let the cuttings dry out.

[@ChrisMisMYhandle]

Hi. Are you watering the cuttings or just leaving them in the bag?

[@GrowingBonsai]

I add a bit of water if no more condensation is isible on the bag.

[@dulichdangoai2947]

Can you please share the soil mixed ingredients you used for the cutting and air layering.Thanks

[@GrowingBonsai]

Have a bit of a browse in the propagation playlist, there I share the details on propagating through layers and cuttings!

[@nerinat8371]

Sucess !!!

[@mangle2k]

Great video as always! I was wondering, what kind of winter setup do you do for the cuttings?

[@GrowingBonsai]

I put the pots on the ground out of wind and sun.

[@drkenweil]

Thank you. Great information. Do you have a book, or one to recommend for a beginner?

[@GrowingBonsai]

Depends a little bit on the background you already have. For maple bonsai, BY FAR the best I have found is Bonsai Maples - by Andrea Meriggioli

[@bustamante-music]

2:00 you said “almost pure vermiculite” so what else is in it?

[@GrowingBonsai]

Hi Brandon, In the bottom of the pot there is some other substrate, probably pine bark, to stop it from washing out. Have a look here for the full description on how I take JM cuttings: kzbin.info/www/bejne/o321fYiZq5qFpZo

[@miltonescobar8685]

❤️❤️❤️where are you located I love your job.

[@GrowingBonsai]

Thank you Milton! Where are you located?

[@bafatakisa]

Hello, does the immport stop apply to all Maple varieties or only to deshojo?

[@GrowingBonsai]

In general I see less and less trees come from Japan, and the ones that do come, are pricey..

[@corbodewits1350]

Dit was weer een heerllijk leer moment, dank je wel jelle. Zo mooi om te zien hoe u dat doet. Love it

[@marifesowinski6960]

Thanks for sharing

[@HaiHuynh2023]

Hello Jelle, how you make substrade ?

[@GrowingBonsai]

I mix it from the bag, then sift it against dust 👍

[@marifesowinski6960]

What did you put before you plant them in a pot?

[@GrowingBonsai]

regular substrate. Somewhere on my channel I have a full video on substrate, check it out!

[@erikrasmussen9068]

When you put the cutting in the plastic bag, how frequently will it need to get watered?

[@GrowingBonsai]

Never! Well.. Not if the bag is closed. I do water when there is no more dondensation. I take the pot out, water. Let it drain and put it back in.

[@erikrasmussen9068]

@@GrowingBonsai oh ok, I figured it would need some air, will make sure to have the bag closed

[@Mike-126]

Where can I get some Deshojo cuttings? I have been searching the web with no results.

[@GrowingBonsai]

Depends a lot where in the world you are. In the Netherlands, Esveld sometimes carries them. And often specialized bonsai nurseries have them. THey are however most of the time fairly expensive.

[@ManOfDoodle]

Heyhey which rooting hormon are you using?

[@GrowingBonsai]

I typically use a product with brandname Clonex. And no, I am not getting any $ for saying this :)

[@dickmsabax]

❤❤❤ Can i maybe have some cuttings? to DH..

[@GrowingBonsai]

haha, I am afraid you are not the first! Who is DH

[@dickmsabax]

@@GrowingBonsai hi.. to Den Haag...

[@marifesowinski6960]

Is that a sands you put on the pot?

[@GrowingBonsai]

Na, just regular substrate. Somewhere on my channel I have a full video on substrate, check it out!

[@tasanastasi7799]

Hi Jelle I have just purchased 7 Maple leaf starter trees, to make a forest, is this a good time to place together ?? Your thoughts please

[@GrowingBonsai]

Optimal would be to do this in early spring, as the first buds on the trees are opening!

[@tasanastasi7799]

@@GrowingBonsai Thank you , yes , you did say that in your presentation , but i know you like bending the norm,;) many thanks ill wait , going to be a long wait .....

[@brucedeacon28]

👍👌🙂

[@GrowingBonsai]

:) thx

[@munkhbilegsainbayar7592]

If you leave your contact I can buy one. Tbx

[@GrowingBonsai]

:)

[@bonsai-dragons]

I’m sorry, but often you are talking much too fast for my German ears. This summer I had the same succes with my deshojo maples as you had. The motherplant is growing for decades in my neighbours garden. It’s everytime just asking about a permission to multiply any plants 🙏🏻

[@GrowingBonsai]

:( Sorry about that! Do the subtitles help (cc button in youtube). Deshojo is such a great cultivar!

[@stanhill3980]

Stop playing that stupid music its annoying.

[@GrowingBonsai]

yeah, about that

[@mchlbk]

Be nice, we're all friends here.