BETTER OR WORSE? | 100KM IN THE MIZUNO WAVE REBELLION PRO

[@TheRollingBacon]

A pretty ingenious way of working around the World Athletics regulations. Japanese innovation indeed.

[@AlexFilitti]

😉

[@O1sson]

@5:25 I believe you may have misspoken, Alex, as all I've ever heard is that the heel measurement is taken at 12% of the internal length of the shoe starting at the HEEL, and the forefoot measurement at 75% from the heel. It makes more sense like this since these points are much closer to the center of the anatomical heel and ball of the foot respectively.

[@mattbarrett6186]

That’s an interesting comment, compare running shoes for length vs depth at different points of the midsole, I wonder what sizes have an advantage over others and that’s why when you include the runners weight we prefer different shoes and why the m large stack has seen more of a levelling of performances

[@AlexFilitti]

You're 100% right, my bad! Thanks for flagging the mistake

[@dhami_jii]

A lot helpful info❤

[@AlexFilitti]

You’re welcome, thanks for your nice comment

[@ericletasse5129]

Agree about the landing in the shoe. I think it is great for heel-midfoot strikers. To me, it feels like a regular shoe (forefoot striker).

[@AlexFilitti]

Makes sense, glad to have a comment from a pure forefoot striker ! Very interesting for the rest of the community so thanks for sharing

[@ericletasse5129]

@@AlexFilitti so I retried it again. I think maybe I over stride and that’s why I wasn’t feeling it.

[@lifephorce]

Great review Alex I find this shoe fascinating.. hats off to Mizuno for trying something different. I ordered a pair online .5 size up but they are too big. Not sure whether to order in my normal size as it's alot of earth credits to splash out if they aren't as fast as my Vaporflys 🤔

[@bartekzielinski1645]

@lifephorce mine feel fine true to size.

[@lifephorce]

@@bartekzielinski1645 Hi Bartek 😊 Just wondering if it's worth splashing the cash? If they aren't more efficient or faster than my old Vaporflys? 🤔 Only really pushing at 5K / parkruns

[@bartekzielinski1645]

@@lifephorce if the Vaporflys work well for you stick with them but... Qualification = I'm always keen to try new shoes despite it being an expensive business : - 0 Very few shoes haven't worked for me. Rebellion Pros are an exciting propulsive ride. That rare feeling of a shoe that's different. Definitely worth a try! If you can find a shop to try them on first give them a go.

[@bartekzielinski1645]

@@lifephorce and the all important question of efficiency and speed - haven't run in the Rebellion enough to call on it vs thr Vaporfly. And in my case training trumps any shoe when it comes to improving speed or efficiency.

[@lifephorce]

@@bartekzielinski1645 could you clarify " training trumps any shoe when it comes improving speed or efficiency" .. you mean you've got to put the miles in to get real benefit in performance? 🤔

[@chrisgrayson353]

Great video as always..looks a class shoe!

[@AlexFilitti]

Thanks Chris - your continued support is highly appreciated! All the best

[@manueltan8962]

great video & review !

[@AlexFilitti]

Thanks Manuel!

[@brewlovinrunner]

I’ve never tried the Mizuno shoes as I went from Brooks to Altra and found my niche but for joggers…I love Mizuno joggers. I wear them for running and lounging.

[@MarkSmith_Best-Athletics]

I feel the same. Would wear for a Half or under, especially in the wet (that fantastic traction) on courses without any sharp turns. Not sure that I would risk them over full Marathon distance. They definitely save the calf muscles but just shift that tension elsewhere (hips, glutes and possibly shins). Think that I am currently favouring Endorphin Elite for Spring Marathon if it's dry. Could be any one of three in the wet. (1) Endorphin Elite (2) Wave Rebellion Pro (3) Metaspeed Sky+

[@AlexFilitti]

Shifting the tension elsewhere is exactly how I feel about them. But when I think of it, it's actually a "good" thing to strenghten other zones. Stay tuned in the coming days for the Ultimate carbon shoe video featuring - among others - the Endorphin Elite

[@MarkSmith_Best-Athletics]

@@AlexFilitti Will keep an eye out as I think that you have a similar running style to myself (just quicker) being a fan of the Metaspeed Sky and Edge+ My current Half and Marathon PB's are both in the Sky v1.

[@grantwallace1882]

Very interesting video.

[@AlexFilitti]

Thank you Sir!

[@adrianm.7800]

I've done two quality workouts and two easy runs with the Rebellion, and I'm still on the fence. I prefer the AlphaFly 1 or Endorphin Elite over this shoe. It just feels like it takes more effort to hit paces and figure out pace adjustments...will need to run more in it.

[@AlexFilitti]

Alphafly and Elite are more "out of the box" type of shoes. You get them, you put them on and you're ready for a session. The Mizunos require a bit of time to adjust but once you master them, they are a great workout companion

[@adrianm.7800]

​@Alex Filitti, I hope so really want to like them...

[@slavasss2189]

Ask them to make these in 2e....otherwise too narrow in standard width

[@AlexFilitti]

I think they’re aware of that, and we also flagged it in our multi tester review on meta-endurance.com :) but thanks a lot for your comment!

[@canakman2638]

I bought rebellion pro for long distance marathon running. It's my first time running a marathon. I ran 5-10-15-21k before. Does it tire my legs in marathon running? because we can't get support from the heel in any way. we have to run with the midsole and the toe section all the time. and I see a lot of wrist flexion in the videos, will this cause us trouble? I don't want to return these shoes.

[@shohibwijaya7904]

does the shoe still has a consistent 'pop' after 100 km?

[@jvmoony]

I'm curious about it's durability before I buy it.

[@dpeddler123]

Hi Alex, thank you for the video! would you recommend for 5/10k or is the Adidas TS8 / standard super shoe better for those shorter than half distances? (I'm 19 mins for 5k - 1.30 for the half).

[@dpeddler123]

I do land on the mid foot, so all that foam appeals!

[@lifephorce]

Hi Alex I'm also interested in the shoes 5/10k abilities Vs the Vaporfly 🙏

[@AlexFilitti]

Hi David, for me this is not the ideal 5K/10K shoe. BUT some of the fastest triathletes in the world are using them for short distances and they run crazy fast splits nevertheless. It depends on your biomechanics but my feeling is that you would need more speed than your 5K/10k current pace to make the most out of them (and same applies to your question @Lifephorce). Hope this makes sense

[@lifephorce]

@@AlexFilitti Thanks Alex ⭐ I'm shooting for sub 22mins @5K and at 57 yrs old I'm looking for any efficiency gain I can get! 😉

[@dpeddler123]

@@AlexFilitti Thanks Alex, your reply is really helpful and much appreciated! I'll stick with the TS8 and keep an eye out for reviews on the Puma Fast Forward 👍

[@mouahmong]

Why do reviewers highlight world athletics stack height regulations so much? No one watching will be affected by those regulations since elite athletes have sponsors.

[@AlexFilitti]

It’s a good point! I believe there is some sort of fascination with that number 😅

[@QronoZ713]

Where I live shoe regulations are enforced at a local level. Not parkrun, but like 10K open regionals.

[@i.p2088]

No foot slapping? Still TTS?

[@AlexFilitti]

Go half up! No foot slapping in this one

[@i.p2088]

3rd 🙄

[@AlexFilitti]

Still a podium ;-)

[@petefish2472]

All we care about is cushion

[@AlexFilitti]

Haha well that's one clear focus in many brands at the moment. The cushion is good here too