Better Win for the Mavs or Worse Loss for OKC? | The Bill Simmons Podcast

[@brxu2525]

No better guest for Bill than Ryen

[@adverseinperpetuity]

No better guest for Ryen than Bill

[@scandelez]

House from dc

[@sportsrat774]

They do this every Sunday , it’s nothing new

[@isrexinsane]

@@scandelez streets sleeping on House. Particularly tipsy House.

[@dolphin7860]

They are great together. Ryen calls Bill out when he needs to be called out, and Bill gets Ryen to be less conservative in his takes

[@kwolboi46]

Damn.. Bill looks devastated.. He really wanted Kyrie to fail.. his takes on Mavs throughout the year was crazy.. coming back to haunt him!

[@willingexile3374]

Considering that the Mavs essentially turned Reggie Bullock, Seth Curry, Grant Williams and a bunch of picks for PJ Washington, I would say that the swing for PJ Washington paid off.

[@saiwaqa2573]

Can you imagine the simmons podcast, the seething of this man if Luka sends the Celtics home in the finals LMAOOOOOO

[@whoknows20232]

he knows ... no team will ever win a ring when Jayson Tatum is ur best player.

[@Zarbon000]

@@whoknows20232 Wow. Bold. I think he could win one. But we haven’t played or coached D-1 or higher, so we’re just casuals.

[@whoknows20232]

@@Zarbon000 he can absolutely win one but not as the best player. He‘s a Paul George. Great talent but not tough enough mentally. And jaylen brown isn’t the sidekick he needs anyway. It’s fine no shame in that

[@17jehovah]

If Dante exum and Gordon Hayward played 1 on 1 who ever had next would die - russillo

[@nevermindthe90s]

"Then you meet a guy at a park and he asks what happened, and you're like: oh, he had next on Exum Hayward 1 on 1" 🤣🤣🤣 I swear Rusillo be saying the wildest shit

[@Zarbon000]

Stop saying Age! Luka is Younger than Shai!

[@siniister710]

Luka has the same issue as Tatum where he was very good at 18 and now everyone thinks he’s old because he’s been dominant for over half a decade. People forget Luka just turned 25

[@Shortballa11]

@@siniister710nobody forgets how young Tatum is, they won’t let us

[@ayeepexxtv5854]

@@Shortballa11no they really do he got unreal expectations

[@kevingeorge7843]

@@siniister710he has NOT been dominant for half a decade 😂😂

[@tylermckenzie7603]

If Luka was on those Boston teams he would have at least 1 ring. Can't convince me otherwise ​@@siniister710

[@chopin1975-tq3gx]

i wonder how much money bill had on okc... lol

[@Youngmexico72]

Probably 10000

[@AsianGreatness]

seriously

[@dannysmuzic1807]

Not as much as Tony (You Owe Me) Brothers!

[@joshhutchins6747]

The title gives Bill's stupid Mavs hates away, this guy refuses to give us one shred of credit

[@DevyHendricks]

Pj Washington got me feeling like charlotte need to free lamelo too lol. Didn’t know he’d be this good in Dallas salute

[@WadeArchives]

Lamelo doesn't play

[@Alex-xn8pq]

P.J. came home to Dallas. Nico Harrison knew him when P.J. was in high school. Seems that P.J. found a comfort zone in Dallas and made the most of it.

[@suprcrzy]

Imagine if OKC traded for Gafford, instead of the Mavs. For Dallas to be able to pull off what they did, with the limited assets.. And OKC to not do anything.. Is kind of inexcusable. And as I'm typing this, Bill literally says imagine if OKC got Gafford😂

[@BobToTheMonkey]

They also facilitated Lively to Dallas too. Two pieces that ruined their playoff run.

[@jlcrimm1]

Presti's achilles heel is he never knows when the window is here and its time to cash in some chips

[@David-iv6je]

Holmgren at, what, 7'1", got 3 boards for the game and 3 TOs. Well, the knock on OKC was no size and too young. Curse of the Sasquatch comes through again!

[@suprcrzy]

20:49 please go watch that sequence again. It's easy to find here on YT. Dort is mugging Luka the entire time, then SGA hacks him (the same way he hacked PJ right after). It wasn't good defense 😂. And that's how most of the series was officiated when it came to Luka. Very frustrating

[@mith2946]

Ive never seen a fanbase take after their superstar more than Mavs fans. All they do is cry and whine. The Mavs won a big series and its all Mavs fans' STILL whining about officiating. They got more free throws in almost every game of the series and still whining about officiating lmao. No wonder everyone dislikes you.

[@jonnykilroy9762]

⁠@@mith2946 it's because of the way Shai was officiated on the other end. It was frustrating to watch Dort just beat on Luka all night while Shai got FT's anytime someone breathed on him. FT counts are a cop out bc it never tells the full story of a game and don't take into account how each team plays/defends

[@LuisLRC]

@@mith2946 L

[@williamroper5422]

​@@mith2946It's about all the found that aren't called. Dort should have fouled out several times long before that. Just telling it like it is.

[@ElBrillante4]

He glances over the fact that PJ caught SGA with the pump fake too🙄

[@charliebarrett9112]

"If Exum and Hayward played 1 on 1 whoever had next would die" lmao that got me

[@AustinSportsGuy]

“If Kawhi’s healthy…” Yeah, because that happens a lot…

[@Scotty2413]

This dude hates Luka

[@Earl_E_Burd]

There's a whole page full of reasons not to like Luka. None have to do with his skills with the ball.

[@brianbiswell7591]

I can't stand Luka. If he played as hard as he complained he might become a top ten player of all time.

[@Scotty2413]

@@Earl_E_Burdhe’s 25 and competitive sob

[@jamhotchicken]

You clearly don’t listen because if you’re talking about Bill he’s been all-in on Luka early and has A TON of Luka stock.

[@silfion2395]

​@jamhotchicken yeah before kyrie came to Mavs. All I hear from him is just against Luks

[@jeffybean]

That lens flare on Bill's face making me think my phone screen was broken for a sec there

[@the_auditor1017]

Hahah same

[@Cgrill95]

How does Bill not think that is a foul? Shai clearly hit PJ’s arm - it would have been great defense and almost a definite miss if SGA just does hit his arm after hitting ball

[@williamroper5422]

He just didn't want it to be a foul because he wanted OKC to win.

[@ElBrillante4]

It’s all that SGA “stock” he prides himself on

[@aja3longhorn375]

He knows its a foul. Did you even listen?

[@saadkhaled6314]

Bill can't sleep because the mavs won lmao

[@davepirtle9790]

No one saw pj Washington gafford and lively playing this well in the playoffs

[@vipmeeurope]

International fans believes more than USA & CANADA. We know Luka from 13th year. So we know how SPECIAL Luka Dončić is. He has so many Trophies and awards, medals, MVPs in all categories from Luka 9th year. Played this PLAYOFF despite injuries, illnesses, fatigue after all seasons and his games, including national team ones for Slovenia. There is no hero who can withstand you and play at such a level for 2 series in such conditions. Now 3 days of recovery and then to new victories.

[@nevermindthe90s]

"Then you meet a guy at a park and he asks what happened, and you're like: oh, he had next on Exum Hayward 1 on 1" 🤣🤣🤣 I swear Rusillo be saying the wildest shit

[@joeknapp9162]

Going all in on a young roster relatively no playoff experience would have been incredibly shortsighted for OKC. They have a great foundation and the most assets of any team in the league. And PLENTY of time to figure it out.

[@gabriel-uc1uz]

Love it when all the guys who picked OKC to win talk about how Dallas was supposed to win the series all of a sudden

[@LucianoCantabruel]

Basically ppl kept on talking about other teams defensive prowess like Minnesota or Clippers but fail to recognize that Mavs have been as good as the best for three months already

[@kennethdias9988]

Kyrie made the put back off the rebound

[@brob8204]

That would have been the game winner, for sure.

[@glorious644]

Luka was fouled like 3 times on the final play. The refs were diabolical.

[@roy5515]

Exactly what I saw, they hit him again and again on the arms, and then, a clear foul on PJ on thee arm, and then…Kyrie put back the missed shot also. So what is the fuss about “losing the game this way?” In fact, Dallas could have said that with more justification if that had loss. STOP IT!

[@colethornton6263]

Complaining about refs after a win is crazy work 😂

[@glorious644]

@@colethornton6263 Okay, the refrees were great.

[@thebestrapperindcthebestra6429]

“ YOU FOULED ME AFTER AND FOULED ME ON THE SHOT ATTEMPT” hahahah

[@conyeezy8027]

Thunder blew it they were up 17 and then 16 again after at home. No reason they should have lost that game.

[@scandelez]

Shai just wasn’t being aggressive the whole run when they cut the lead down. It was driving me crazy

[@BassYakCam]

Except that Dallas is better. Now game 4? Mavs blew that one.

[@gasharan]

For as much as Bill says OKC coulda/shoulda won. The Mavs coulda won this in 5 pretty easily, especially if Maxi hadnt been injured

[@mattdotts]

Seattle Sonics curse is real!

[@sergeynazaro1768]

It wasn’t necessarily a wasted year for OKC but we all felt they could have capitalized on the trade market / roster filling better

[@denigster]

not a doncic fan but big respect for fighting through it

[@iTuber012]

@16:55 Giannis doesn't exist? It's Joker and Giannis head and shoulders above the #3 best player

[@Lalvel5]

The Celtics fans are gonna enjoyed the Luka Legend with tears in their eyes in less than two weeks. I feel sorry for Simmons.

[@roel2377]

Don't matter what the call was either way Kai made the miss and we still would of won 😊

[@bkelly625]

Giddey being a zero on both ends and Dort shooting 19-61 (31%) in the series are the main reasons Okc lost. People are going crazy about everything else but those were the two glaring issues. Had two starters not stunk it up Okc would be in the conference finals

[@shuqingchen7543]

No sound bill Edit: Was too early. Now works

[@jamilmuhammad7465]

Sounds been working for me

[@brandonhill4921]

Works for me

[@chikinlikin6947]

You were probably too early idk why yt breaks sometimes when u click like a minute after posting

[@Tom-bn6pr]

OKC helping Dallas get Gafford AND Lively and get destroyed on the boards by them is as rough as it gets

[@thegman8]

By 24 June, one of these guys will have a championship ring: Luka, Anthony Edwards, Haliburton or Tatum. In he MVP balloting this year, only Luka is left from the Top 5. Tatum and Edwards were 6th and 7th, respectively. Haliburton did not receive any votes.

[@David-iv6je]

It's almost like it's a team sport or something.

[@kevinc8955]

3 of the top 5 got injured during their series or slightly before it. Do you believe Haliburton outplayed Brunson in their series? Because Haliburton played like trash most games and got hard carried by the Knicks injuries.

[@Lalvel5]

These two guys talking about Dallas are like Richard Pryor and Gene Wilder in See no evil, hear no evil. Luka is gonna kill them.

[@ibramed8277]

Sam Prestie dropped the ball. What's the purpose of acquiring many picks if it cannot be used to acquire an elite player like Siakam. When Prestie heard Indiana was interested in acquiring Siakam, he should have at least asked for the price. Bertan's, Giddy and plus two or three picks would have secured him Siakam. With Siakam as the secondary scorer and his experience winning the NBA Championship, I believe OKC would have beaten Dallas. Siakam would easily average 22 pts, 8 rbs and 5 assists to complement Shai and Williams.

[@roycedot]

The salaries don’t match. OKC could take back $31 m for Bertans and Giddey. Siakim is getting $37m this year

[@coltranecobain9883]

Woulda coulda shoulda bs!

[@Israel-nb7ip]

And does Siakam re-sign with OKC this summer..? This ain't fantasy basketball.

[@Riles3152]

⁠@@Israel-nb7ipFor real 😂Siakam is literally about to be a free agent. Would OKC have been willing to give all that up for a possible rental?

[@mrdan523]

@Riles3152 Toronto did it and they got a ring for it. Granted, Kawhi>>>>Siakam. But OKC already had their superstar in Shae

[@Freakmeal]

Bill, you mentioned about Anthony Edwards as the rarest players that put it altogether and may win a championship at the age of 22. You forgot about your once colleague Magic Johnson!

[@sergeynazaro1768]

I always remember that Kobe quote went something like , BOARD MAN WINS CHIPS. When OKC only traded for Gordon and didn’t address back up Chet mins, knew they’d have trouble

[@MrIbates]

Wait, hear me out. Before the series, during and after Bill Simmons said he thinks “okc has the better team” then IMMEDIATELY after he says OKC didn’t have the pieces and needs the player DALLAS HAS to make them a better team. All the while maintaining they have a better team??? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@FreeOfAllFear]

Bill the most emotional dude ever he literally falls in love w his own words 🤣🤡

[@simonkilday8698]

Did bill watch this series? Dallas got killed in gaffords minutes. If rusellio wasn’t on this pod I wouldn’t be listening

[@marcviola30]

I’m convinced if it isn’t the Celtics bill just checks out like a quarter in 2 of the games and comes with his takes

[@janicelgo4522]

OKC is young and need more experience. They are going to be tough, tough to come. They will have so many good players on either rookie deals or rookie extensions (like MN with Ant at $35M - cheap!).

[@frankmaitland1254]

Thanks @Russillo @@BillSimmons LOVES SHAI AND BET ON THEM..GO @Mavericks

[@beatinbuzzers]

Its 3am mind you, but that flare on the screen had me thinking I needed to adjust my blinds. LOL I need to go to sleep.

[@philipaperez]

This podcast covers basketball more than most but I wish they included draft prospects to include the overseas guys.

[@easyee1225]

if the mavs make it finals and kyrie shawshanks the celtics, bill is going to lose his mind

[@Marc-n5e]

Its looking like Mavs vs Celtics

[@626lifeaa]

A doncic vs Tatum finals would be wild to watch

[@yonav560]

Bill keeps forcefully reminding us he doesn’t know ball. Somehow is more insufferable than when he was spamming footnotes and creepily writing about which actress’ nude scenes he’d most want to see.

[@robertbaker782]

Bill asks Ryen a simple question. Which team had the better win and in response, in his usual fashion, Ryen buries the lede mumbling on and on in one big run-on sentence without answering the question. I don't understand why he's always on this blog. Nor do I understand why people like him.

[@frankmaitland1254]

Take the L Bill.

[@robertholston4708]

Kyrie was right about everything.

[@mcdude9578]

Lol they got ballsack'd with the giddy utah post 😂😂😭😭

[@glorious644]

Dallas played the Thunder like they were conserving energy.

[@MarsATX]

the team just needs playoff XP and lukai rested. Jason kidd is a high stakes gambler. but it wracked my nerves the whole series.

[@wileyschmitt]

Yeah OKC needed to make a move at the deadline, and they could've got anyone who was available at the time, and perhaps could've even got players who weren't on the block due to the fact that they had the Fort Knox equivalent of trade assets.

[@CouLands]

The entire goal was to watch how the current squad performs as is and get exactly what is needed later. Presti said that well before the playoffs. No sense in grabbing pieces that won’t work in the long run.

[@wileyschmitt]

@@CouLandsBy the time the trade deadline came around they were well aware of how good they were, and of how close they were to winning it all 'this' season. They had much more than enough future draft picks and non rotational players with trade value to make a move this season, and for many more to come. Plus they could've traded for a rental player if they didn't want to be stuck with the contract. They should've gone after OG for sure, but they could've probably also got Gafford for not much, and would've kept him from going to Dallas who he ended up helping them tremendously.

[@Briones215]

I agree guys great analysis especially not trading for gafford considering they lost to Dallas his one of the guys that played well for Dallas but I disagree on trading giddy for wings they already have Wiggins and Joe they a great rebounder and they are too small against Denver and timberwolves for they need a power forward or a center

[@brob8204]

I want to give Jason Kidd his props. Pretty much everyone to a person gave Ty Lue the coaching advantage in the previous series. Well, J Kidd just went head to head with this year's coach of the year and got it done. To make the Western Conference Finals in the west this year is impressive. Nothing against Coach Lue or anyone, but I don't think Jason Kidd takes a back seat to anybody when it comes to the game of basketball.

[@bcreturnee3378]

Russillo with the quote of the year: "If Gordon Hayward and Dante Exum played one on one, whoever had next would die" 😂

[@CraptorsfanY]

These two are the best ball talk imo 🏀 👌👌

[@jesusshorty2660]

from tha Navajo Nation.. Great work Simmons..

[@Jg-uk4lm]

Inshallah Navajo🙏

[@Earl_E_Burd]

I'm an Indian Outlaw. Half Cherokee and Choctaw. My baby, she's a Chippewa - she's a one of a kind.

[@tatumsh9]

Tf

[@keithrowe3721]

The challenge was as bad as the foul; they were both mistakes. Things happen quickly and every team makes x number of bad decisions in a given game.

[@johnnyd.1925]

Lots of speculation and what ifs instead of talking about what is. Guys like PJ and DJJ can shoot wide open 3s cause you have two guys who are great passers and demand alot of attention on defense. The system that was built around the Luka/Kyrie combo is what allows them to thrive.

[@BigtunaG]

Hating on kyrie

[@healthfadsfade]

This season with the Mavs is one of those situations where people think Dallas fans are just too enthusiastic and overestimating their team... We keep saying you just dont understand how good the defense is and how clutch this team is. Keep feeding them doubt please. This was a 5 game series if it werent for the atrocious game 4 free throw shooting. That is NOT THE SAME as comparing field goals because there is defense lmfao. Some of these media copes are absurd.

[@circaen]

You would think a man at Bill's age would be past the Spiteful takes - especially ones he likely has money on. If you watched that series, there were maybe 5 quarters in total that OKC looked good. He is just out of his mind when it comes to Mavs, Luka, & Kyrie. Looking for any reason to belittle what they accomplish. It's really crazy to watch. Ryen sees it too.

[@ricosolomon]

Great video, once again Bill Simmons 👏🏽

[@BassYakCam]

Why are they even discussing this? Both teams hit great shots down the stretch. Mavs WON it.

[@tobysrimani1047]

They also tanked last year to get dLive. Go Mavs! Pay flight 55!

[@benbutler9282]

the Mav's boxed Chet out and crippled OKC rebounding - just saying

[@MaxJulien2701]

Bill, how was that not a foul? Yes, he initially blocked it, but PJ powered through for the shot and Shai got his arm lol your logic makes no sense. Just because you hit the ball first, doesn't mean you should be allowed to then contact a shooter after

[@AdamHammond-]

It doesn't matter anyway. If they didn't call the foul Kyrie hit the follow

[@txsodak]

Kyrie caught the miss ball and made a layup. Quit blaming it on a the Foul. Also Mavs and Thunder are both average age 25.

[@CouLands]

Check your math because that’s entirely false

[@DUI-Johnson]

@3:28 mavs had number one defense in last 20 games of the season

[@xencloud]

There was alot of takes that got corrected in this series.

[@frankmaitland1254]

Russillo kills it comedicly. Without trying. Shane Gillis is the Stand Up version of Ryen.

[@Brdavsar]

I don't know why roleplayers having good shooting nights tends to get painted as a fluke/low level risk you'd be happy with... if teams double stars and challenge others to beat them I don't think it surprising more often than not 3&d players hit open shots at a substantially higher % than they normaly do when contested...

[@cmac7384]

I watched the entire video. #1 fan

[@petergianakopoulos4926]

Wow!

[@aioncrypto974]

Mavs got the rebound and tip in. Wouldn’t have mattered

[@starbug45]

Are OKC just going to keep collecting picks and drafting they might become a farm team for the NBA. They can only keep 17 guys lol.

[@Earl_E_Burd]

PJ Washington "a playoff guy" 24:04. Haliburton has not been a playoff guy. Tyrese has looked scared to have the ball at times, w/ hints of Ben Simmons. Hope he can get past that.

[@Damehowell7]

I dont care what Bill says, Dallas’ defense stiffled OKC. They missed shot because most were contested & they rarely got to the basket so they had nothing but jumpshots & jump shooting teams generally dont win!

[@chopin1975-tq3gx]

man... mavs didnt even play that good and they still won

[@Damehowell7]

Isnt it ironic that SGA gets a ton of BS calls & lives at the FT line. Their season ends on a questionable call & FT’s! Beautiful story! 😂😂

[@iamchaunceman]

OKC certainly should have added Gafford. I’m glad presti is afraid to trade, that Harden trade ruined him. Being a 1st seed and HEALTHY may never happen again. See 2011/2012 versions of OKC. The better version

[@Davidstone568]

Better win for the mavs!!! Luka is leading a brand new team that was established at the trade deadline

[@60zeller]

Adam’s would be a great reserve for OKC.

[@bizz2329]

I remember when bill was hating on the mavs and kyrie at the beginning of the year😂

[@quietlike]

Chet looks beat up by the 4th qtr. kyrie facilitates and uses his energy for defense and saves his energy for the 2nd half. He’s getting old! If this is the case, it’s a gamble but it’s working so far

[@dannysmuzic1807]

"OKC just missed open shots"?? No credit to Mavs #1 Defense in last 20 games of the season and #2 D during playoffs?? Can't blame J. Williams, Mavs close-outs are tenacious! Bill, Kyrie has 5th best 1 on 1 Defensive % in the playoffs Soo far. If he doesn't want you to dribble, you're suddenly picking it up and in big trouble. Ask RW, Harden, PG, J Williams etc ... All great dribblers who can create off the dribble. Kyrie will leave his own man to rip you 10 ft away- total assassin. Not sure ANT has those handles.

[@aron.gortman]

Maxi Kleber needs to return. Mavs in 5 if he makes it for Game 1.

[@alexlol3260]

Biggest winner is Kyrie 😂 OKC core is still young and they have assets to make moves, they’re fine

[@cameronbolden5064]

The mavs were the better team. Outside of game 1 the mavs were just the better team same as with the clippers series. The mavs have just been good

[@WHlSKYtx]

Mavs getting no credit as usual

[@HalseyHFW]

Will Sarr be as good a rookie as Lively?

[@Damehowell7]

OKC is getting way too much credit. Mavs dominated them. Why is SGA not expected to make the rest of those puppies better??

[@alexlol3260]

OKC need someone who can help rebound and score because shai is capped at 30 points. KD is coming back home 🫢🔜