Beware the So-Called " Seven Noahide Laws"!

[@chasmdiver5496]

I just discovered your channel. A blessing for Bible believers. Keep on the good work brother. May the truth of Our Lord Jesus-Christ be in your mind.

[@earlygenesistherevealedcos1982]

Amen to that, and welcome!

[@priscillalongworth1720]

Have you ever spoken to a person who left Christianity, and began to follow Abraham as a Noachide? I would love to speak to you, and chat about my journey. I am a former Baptist missionary wife, who studied the Bible in my Baptist childhood home intensely and daily under my parents. I spent 6 years at Bible college, learning and teaching hundreds of children in ministry. And I now practise Judaism. This is the real deal, and I'd love to chat.

[@earlygenesistherevealedcos1982]

I've spoken to a lot of people who were in a religion of works that claimed to be Christianity who left it for a better religion of works. They exchanged one works-based religion for another one. But it wasn't Christianity. They just called it that. For example some of the kids who suffered under the Bill Gothard stuff, they left the pseudo-faith that was posing as Christianity but slipped into another works-based religious system. Because it is what those who don't know Christ do. The flesh likes a way to keep score and get itself back into the equation.

[@Aimee3beth]

Thou shall not commit blasphemy seems fine and dandy until you realize they do not recognize JESUS as the MESSIAH.

[@nothingbutthetruth613]

There has got to be some sort of a code of laws that was binding on the ancient people. You want to deny there are any Noachide laws but if so, what laws did the people of Sodom break? What did the Canaanites do wrong? If there was nothing concrete, how can they be liable for doing anything wrong? And if you say the laws they transgressed were all basic common sense laws that all humans are born with, the Noachide laws are just that. They are all basic moral principles that almost anyone would agree to.

[@earlygenesistherevealedcos1982]

Perhaps you will change your mind after listening to the video. I explain my objections there. What laws did the descendants of Adam break in order to bring the flood in the first place? For that matter, how did Adam and Eve know to hide themselves once their eyes were opened? We didn't need the "Noahide Laws" to know we were wrong or provoke God's judgement. And the ten Commandments were at least given as a list with no man-made additions.

[@nothingbutthetruth613]

@@earlygenesistherevealedcos1982 My friend, I listened to a little more but I really can't contain myself. You say that this is a man made religion and this is not coming from God and this won't help you. What will help you? Believing in Jesus. How ironic can you get? Show me where in the 23000 verses of the ot it says anywhere that if you believe in some guy named Jesus who is the son of God, you will be forgiven? This is not only absent from the bible, it is also very clearly the exact opposite. The people of Ninveh never believed in Jesus but somehow they were forgiven. I wonder how. The bible says in almost every book that we need to FOLLLOW the laws and OBEY the commandments. It doesn't say anywhere we have to make sure we believe. Why isn't this the clear warning all over the place?

[@earlygenesistherevealedcos1982]

I am sorry my presentation is so intolerable to you. I do answer some of your question there though. Isaiah 9:6-7 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. 7 Of the greatness of his government and peace there will be no end. He will reign on David’s throne and over his kingdom, establishing and upholding it with justice and righteousness from that time on and forever. The zeal of the Lord Almighty will accomplish this. He is that Son who was given. He is a Son, yet He is also God. As it says in Isaiah 69 15 Truth is nowhere to be found, and whoever shuns evil becomes a prey. The Lord looked and was displeased that there was no justice. 16 He saw that there was no one, he was appalled that there was no one to intervene; so his own arm achieved salvation for him, and his own righteousness sustained him. 17 He put on righteousness as his breastplate, and the helmet of salvation on his head; he put on the garments of vengeance and wrapped himself in zeal as in a cloak. 18 According to what they have done, so will he repay wrath to his enemies and retribution to his foes; he will repay the islands their due. 19 From the west, people will fear the name of the Lord, and from the rising of the sun, they will revere his glory. For he will come like a pent-up flood that the breath of the Lord drives along.[a] 20 “The Redeemer will come to Zion, to those in Jacob who repent of their sins,” declares the Lord So we see that there are none righteous, not even one. They must repent. And His own arm saved them, not their works. The name of Jesus is actually the short form of the name of Yahweh combined with the Hebrew word for "Salvation". And of course who can forget Isaiah 53, which in retrospect, is speaking of Jesus. Who has believed our message and to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed? 2 He grew up before him like a tender shoot, and like a root out of dry ground. He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him, nothing in his appearance that we should desire him. 3 He was despised and rejected by mankind, a man of suffering, and familiar with pain. Like one from whom people hide their faces he was despised, and we held him in low esteem. 4 Surely he took up our pain and bore our suffering, yet we considered him punished by God, stricken by him, and afflicted. 5 But he was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was on him, and by his wounds we are healed. 6 We all, like sheep, have gone astray, each of us has turned to our own way; and the Lord has laid on him the iniquity of us all. There are really too many place to name here. But righteousness was always through faith, the works followed the faith. Genesis 15:6 @@nothingbutthetruth613

[@nothingbutthetruth613]

@@earlygenesistherevealedcos1982 It's not intolerable at all. I just had to comment and correct you before going on. But you didn't answer my question at all. I asked for a verse that tells us we need to believe and this is the only way to be saved. Genesis 15:6 simply says it was a righteous thing to believe. That's it! This is one verse and it never says this is the way to be forgiven or this is the key to salvation or anything similar. Of course it's great to believe but that is simply the means to an end. The end being that you need to follow the laws like it says all throughout the bible. Why would the bible tell us over and over and over again that we need to DO the laws? According to you, this isn't the goal at all. Sure, I understand you believe that this is a byproduct of believing in Jesus when the holy spirit comes into you. However, that is not what it says. Look at Genesis 4:7 "Is it not so that if you improve, it will be FORGIVEN you? If you do not improve, however, at the entrance, sin is lying, and to you is its longing, but YOU CAN RULE OVER IT." How can you possibly be forgiven if you simply improve? How can you ever rule over it? You can't do any of this unless you believe so what is it talking about? How do you explain Ninveh? How can they have been forgiven if all they did was improve? As far as these other passages you quote, first of all they don't address my question at all. Also Isaiah 9 is mistranslated. It is all in past tense. This baby was already born. Isaiah 59 is clear that God will save us. Where do you see Jesus anywhere or believing in him anywhere? And Isaiah 53 has multiple problems like verse 8 which clearly says the subject is multiple people or verse 10 which says there are progeny and many more. But let me ask you about the name thing you said. What do you mean his name is part of God's name? Are you actually trying to tell me his name is in the bible? Please elaborate I just want to point out one more thing you said. "in retrospect it's talking about Jesus" Herein lies the problem. Hopefully you would admit that if you read the ot without hearing about Jesus or any of the doctrines associated with him, you would NEVER have thought of any of it. You would never see any of it. The only reason you are reading the bible and seeing Jesus in there when he is nowhere and the doctrines are all antithetical is because you first read the nt and then with Christological glasses you then read the ot. This is called circular reasoning and eisegesis and doesn't work. Not only does it not work but it's completely dishonest. If Christianity were true, don't you think God would make it just a wee bit clearer for us? Don't you think the fact that God is 3 parts is pretty important for us to know. Don't you think we need to know that we need to believe and without doing that we will burn for eternity? How is it possible God never mentions this?

[@earlygenesistherevealedcos1982]

It does not say "God is in three parts". God is not in three parts. God is three persons each of whom are God. See my video on the best analogy for the Trinity for details. But that you are so troubled that God did not explain Himself better upfront rather than progressively revealing Himself to mankind is at the heart of the problem. You have to trust God. God isn't obligated to make it all plain to you before you trust Him. That isn't even trust. To do the work of Abraham, you must believe even as Abraham believed. Do you seriously want to say there is another way to righteousness besides faith? That you can be right in God's sight without trusting God? The 53rd Psalm starts off by plainly saying 'there is none righteous, no, not one'. Not only is there no man to stand in the gap, there is none righteous. So the only way to be righteous is the way Abraham got there- through faith. God can't find the righteous man, He had to BE the righteous man for us. So I have shown you in the text that Abraham was righteous by faith, and by the text that there is not one righteous outside of faith, that is, in themselves. The obvious logical conclusion is that faith is REQUIRED for righteousness. Even if the OT doesn't sum it up like the NT book of Hebrews does, the book of Hebrews is only expressing the logical conclusion of the OT when it says "without faith, it is impossible to please God." Abraham was willing to sacrifice his only son of promise by faith. He trusted God so much that He assumed that since God made the promise that Isaac was the one who would bear his seed that God was able to raise Him from the dead. God didn't say He would do that, Abraham proceeded in faith even though the command was confusing. In truth, this was once again pointing to Christ. While in the end God spared Abraham and Isaac from that, from having to part even a little while, God did not spare His own Son on our behalf. Do you not see the danger when you brush aside so great a salvation? When you accuse God because He did not make it "plain enough" to suit you? Read the first eight chapters of Romans if you wish to understand why the law was given and what its relationship is to our salvation. I cannot say it better than Paul. The OT makes the same point, but it is the overall scope of the OT, with them trying again and again and again to justify themselves by their works apart from faith and failing, that matter more than any one verse. Christ is the end of the law for all who believe. Not because the law is bad, it is good. But it becomes superfluous for the one who lives by faith. They do not obey the law to be righteous. Just in the course of walking with God, they do right. Your accusations against Isaiah 53 are all based on misunderstandings, like the word translated "offspring" really means "seed". But you cannot bear that now. Similarly, your translation of Gen. 4:7 misses the mark. This isn't a matter of opinion. It is a matter of fact. It isn't saying "forgiven". It doesn't even mean "accepted" though that is closer. It means lifted up or exalted. Check it in an interlinear bible. Nor does it say "if you IMPROVE". It says "if you do well" in the sense of what is pleasing. And what is pleasing? What was the issue or problem here? Cain's sacrifice was rejected by the LORD because it was the fruit of his own labors. Abel's was accepted because it was a blood sacrifice....indicating that Abel knew he could not be justified by the work of his own hands, but that blood must be shed. Again pointing to Christ, as the Law also did. Do not make the same mistake as Cain, who slew his own brother rather than admit that the works of his own hands can never be an acceptable sacrifice to God. The question has not changed since the garden and you are facing that question now. God wanted them to trust HIM to define good and evil, but they wanted it made plainer so that THEY could understand it. But even in the fall the LORD spoke of the Seed who would crush the serpent's head. The Seed was a "Him" who would be born of a woman. Since that time, the righteous looked for the Seed to come and fulfill God's promise. At last, in Christ, He did. All of the OT points forward to Jesus, all of the NT points back at Jesus. God told mankind from Adam and Eve on that He would bring a Deliverer. The Law pointed to Him, the Prophets and the Psalms spoke of Him. At last, in Christ, He came and kept the law that we could not, yet paid the penalty due us. If this is unclear, it is unclear to those who are perishing. It is unclear for the same reason Christ spoke in parables- He did not want those with no real love of the truth to get it. It wasn't for them because they did not want to believe. Thus, He spoke in parables. It isn't a problem that you can't see what I see in the text, because you do not wish to see it. If you did, you would. If you don't it will be hidden from you. That is how God's word is meant to work. The evidence is a mirror. @@nothingbutthetruth613

[@christopherfranklin3050]

There is one law for the natural born and the sojourner (Ex 12:49) Keep all of the 10 declarations that God gave us on Mt. Sinai.

[@WickidMisfit]

So in your opinion why was the line of messiah needed to save the people from genesis 1? How did the people in genesis 1 sin? I thought sin was brought into the world by Adam and Eve eating from the tree of knowledge of good and evil?

[@earlygenesistherevealedcos1982]

The only reason they were not sinning was because they did not have the knowledge of good and evil. They were still doing terrible things. Even Adam and Eve were immodest before the fall, they just didn't know it until after. So mankind would still need to be guided and their nature changed. I do write about this in the book, but we can only speculate what the role of Messiah would be in a world where Adam never fell. Adam himself may have lived on and slowly guided humanity under the tutelage of the LORD GOD until the eternal realm was full of souls. I also give evidence for what I call an "honored sacrifice" scenario. It is in the context of Israel but the same could apply here. That is, when the time was right, when mankind had been guided to the right place, Adam would be instructed to take the fruit and die so that humanity could see their condition (so it had a function besides tempting people), but since they would have mostly had faith by then, they would not reject Messiah but honor Him and weep as they had to sacrifice Him for the sin of the world. The process of making men and women into Christ and the church would have been relatively painless, with the knowledge of Good and Evil and redemption occuring in the same generation. This is what the LORD God really meant when He told Eve "I will greatly multiply your pain in conception (often mistranslated child-birth). IOW, the process of producing Messiah and getting mankind to that place would now be much harder than it otherwise would be. I base that on some scriptures like the one where it says He despised the shame. That is, the sacrifice was bad, but that He had to do it as a criminal instead of a Righteous King sacrificing Himself for His people made it worse. It made it worse that they not only didn't appreciate it, but they did it thinking they were in the right and He in the wrong. You question is a thoughtful one. The most important question though, is what each of us are going to do in response to the fact that Messiah did come, did share our infirmities though without sin, and willingly became the sacrifice anyway even though we did nothing to honor Him and everything we could do to humiliate and hurt Him. The important question now is whether we will continue to do that to Him or accept His rightful claim as King over our very souls?

[@WickidMisfit]

@@earlygenesistherevealedcos1982 thanks for your reply. I’ll have to think about it.

[@WickidMisfit]

@@earlygenesistherevealedcos1982 the people created on day six were they spirit beings or actual flesh human beings and if they were flesh did they have the breath of life in them or is that just what Adam in the garden was created with. I’m assuming breath of life is the same as spirit of life? So one would be natural man and the other would be spiritual men who believed in their creator? I always thought God created everything good before he slept so it always seemed to me that those people were innocent like animals and children and they didn’t eat meat only fruits and food from the trees. I thought the fall of Adam and Eve cursed the whole world and the reason for the son having to come as a sacrifice to save us was because Adam and Eve ate from the tree of knowledge and now needed a saviour unless they would all die. I see The Father as being the LORD GOD from the garden who walked amongst his creation. While Jesus was in the Father while Adam and Eve were created and eventually came to earth as the son to the father or the life that was in the Word that became the light of the world.

[@earlygenesistherevealedcos1982]

They were flesh and blood, the same as Adam. Adam was formed to be one of them and represent them before God. Adam was different in that he had maximum what we today would call "privilege". Making him especially to be the stand-in for mankind served to maximize our chances of success- still he failed. The sleeping you speak of, is God in need of rest? Not at all, the seventh day was prophecy of Jesus resting in the ground after He died for the sins of the world. Please see my vid on that. God did make things good, but good is an English word. You should look up the Hebrew word used for "good". It is something like "towmb" It does not mean good as in deathless or sinless perfection. It means suitable for its purpose or attractive. The same word is used to describe the fruit of the tree of the Knowledge of Good and evil! This life was always meant to be the test. The presumed vegetarian diet comes from an interpretation of verses 28-31 in Gen. chapter one. But that is a description of what God desires them to eat, not what they do eat. I should do a vid on that one but notice that the only category left off that list of creatures that God has given the green leaf to eat is "cattle" or "livestock". IOW, the only category that already exclusively eats it. So that was something man was supposed to do as he pacified the earth, not a description of what then was. God told Adam "cursed is the ground (the Adamah) because of you". That is the civilized ground, the fields, the world of man. And the curse wasn't that God would make things wilder, it was that God's plan to improve the earth along with man would now be delayed and much harder. See my vid on the Three Curses in early Genesis for details. When they ate, that didn't make them need a savior. They already needed one, they just didn't know it. Why were they hiding from God? They did not say it was because they ate the fruit,. but that they were naked. It was awareness of their condition that changed on eating the fruit, not their condition. It wasn't "that sin" for at the time they could not know it was wrong. Instead, taking the fruit opened their eyes to the fact that they were doing wrong all along. I believe the LORD God in chapter two who formed Adam is God the Son. It would take too long to explain here as I don't even get to it until about page 350 of a 440 page book. Thank you./ . @@WickidMisfit

[@WickidMisfit]

@@earlygenesistherevealedcos1982 ya Jesus calls himself the son of man and also says in the parable of the wheat and tares that the farmer is The son of man who planted the good seed and the devil is the enemy who planted the tares so I see how you could think The Lord God was the Son of God cause he would also be The Son of Man. Question though if you are the son of man who is the Man that you are the son of?

[@galewollenberg786]

Keeping = memorizing Ps. 119.

[@bluethunder1214]

need to read Genesis 9

[@earlygenesistherevealedcos1982]

I managed to glance at it once or twice when writing a 440 page book on early Genesis. Even if some things are in there that sound like some of the Noahide laws, that wasn't the covenant God was trying to establish. The New Covenant is the covenant He was setting up with the events of the flood. I think I need to do a vid on that, so thank you for the suggestion.

[@patrickcotroneo7848]

The laws can be found in the first 5 books. You know what can't be found? Jesus. He talks about the laws being implied when that is exactly what Jesus followers use to prove Jesus. Implied scripture. Edited because my reply to the "highlighted reply" isn't posting for some reason. So I will post again here in shorter fashion. Every single scripture in your reply is clearly Jesus being inserted and implied. I don't subscribe to progressive revelation. If I did, then the Book of Mormon could be correct. We don't accept that book just as we shouldn't with the NT because it doesn't line up with God's word in the Torah or Paul's and all the misquoted or out of context teachings that he has. I can show you in your own study Bible and compare to the Hebrew scriptures. But, let's talk scripture. God says there is no other like him created before or after. He is the only one. He says this in: 1 kings 8:60, Isaiah 43:10-11, Isaiah 46:9, Numbers 23:19. Just to name a few. As far as forgiveness, there is no mention of needing Jesus or sacrifice for forgiveness only God. This can be found in: Isaiah 55:7, Psalms 51:16-19, Isaiah 1:27, Isaiah 27:9, Isaiah 40:2, Ezekiel 18: 21-23. We don't need a savior to die for us. We have a direct connection with God, and he can forgive us if we are true in our repentance if he wants to. It is silly to think that God would create laws we can't keep and then send someone to die for us not keeping the laws he already knew we couldn't keep.

[@earlygenesistherevealedcos1982]

@@patrickcotroneo7848 then it is a subset of the Law of Moses, which cannot save because of who we are apart from God. The NT teachers that it was not meant to save outside of Jesus, only to multiply our transgressions so that we see our need for Jesus. I along with Paul in Galatians tell you that if you count on circumcision to save you then you must keep the whole Law. IOW, you have no authorization to pick and choose a part of the Law to keep and say the rest does not apply to you. But Christ is not just "implied" in Genesis, He is all over it. He is God who rested on the Sabbath. He is the Lord God who formed Adam thus Isaiah 9:6 calls Him both Father and Son. He is the one who walked in the Garden. He is the Seed that will crush the serpent's head in 3:15, and the living in 3:20 are those who are His. He is the one who sealed Noah in the ark. He is the one who came down to see the tower that the men built to start their own religion.....just as those advocating the Noahide laws do now

[@patrickcotroneo7848]

@earlygenesistherevealedcos1982 First, I don't subscribe to progressive revelation. So, Paul's teachings in the NT are worth about as much as the Book of Morman. But going off the Torah, every single scripture you quoted, you inserted Jesus into it. God is very clear that it is just God that there is no other. Let me give you the scripture. 1 kings 8:60- So, that all people of the earth may know that the Lord is God; There is no other. Isaiah 43:10-11 You are my Witness, says the Lord, and my servant whom I chose, in order that you know and believe me, and understand that I am he; BEFORE ME NO GODS WERE FOEMED AND AFTER ME NONE SHALL BE. Isaiah 46:9 Remember the first things of old, that I am God and there IS NO OTHER; I am God and there is None Like ME. Numbers 23:19- GOD IS NOT A MAN that he should lie, nor is he mortal that he should relent. Would he say and not do, speak, and not fulfill. These are just a few. But just to point out the confusion of the Christian teachings. So if God gave no law, there would be no sin. Which would mean there is no need for Jesus. But he did give law. So, God gave laws that he knew we couldn't follow in order to send Jesus to die so that we could be forgiven for laws that we couldn't keep to begin with???? That doesn't make any sense. However, the Torah, in its plain written text, makes perfect sense and isn't up for interpretation and certainly isn't implied like the infusion of Jesus. Not one place in the Hebrew scripture does it says someone (a person) will die or be sacrificed for our sins and certainly not resurrected after doing so. However, It actually does say you can be forgiven without sacrifice. Some examples. Isaiah 55:3, Samuel 12:13, Psalms 51:16-19, Isaiah 1:27, Isaiah 27:9, Isaiah 40:2, Ezekiel 18:21-23, Isaiah 12:2. These are just a few scriptures to show you can be forgiven through repentance. Not sacrifice by a man or bull.

[@coleyounger7761]

wow I've been a Noachide for 20 years and I can tell you that you are very misinformed sir.

[@earlygenesistherevealedcos1982]

but can you tell me why?

[@coleyounger7761]

@@earlygenesistherevealedcos1982 well first of all being a Noachide is not a religion, Rather an agreement to follow a code of ethics G-d gave to all non Jewish people. We just do not believe in a man god, we believe in the G-d of man. No intermediaries, just a close personal relationship with the Creator.

[@earlygenesistherevealedcos1982]

@@coleyounger7761 Well I asked and you answered, so thank you for that. Whether it is a religion depends on definition I suppose, but God is not a party to this agreement. It is made up by men using things God said in various places while leaving out others and adding their own. Why would God honor what amounts to a limited counter-offer? If you told your son to do twenty things and he came back with a list of six of them and one other command he made himself as a counter-offer would you count that as obedience? But the main point is that God gave the law for a purpose, to show that we cannot earn righteousness by keeping it. We can only obtain that righteousness which comes by faith in Him, not our works and not by the law. Think of the temple. When Jesus began His ministry, the scapegoat's thread would not go white. God quit accepting your sacrifices because He had prepared the Great and Final Sacrifice of His Son. To continue the temple sacrificial system after that was an abomination that made desolate. After 40 years of rejecting your sacrifices, He brought judgement on the temple. This even though He ordained the temple, IN the same way, though He ordained some of these laws in scattered places, their purpose is served and it is an abomination to set up the law again as a means of righteousness.

[@earlygenesistherevealedcos1982]

@@coleyounger7761 unjust? We don't want 'just'. If it were all justice and no mercy even the best of us would be banished from God's presence forever. We should want Mercy, but you have to face the truth about what we are to see that, and without the mercy provided by Christ, we dare not take that honest look at ourselves. Rather, we do just what has been done with the so-called seven Noahide laws....we make a law for ourselves out of some part of God's requirements that we think we can keep and call that righteousness.

[@priscillalongworth1720]

​@@earlygenesistherevealedcos1982Actually, I would be thrilled if my son came back and told me he did the 6 items on my list. Then we'd talk about why he didn't do the others, see where there was misunderstanding/confusion/etc, and I'd walk him through the process of doing those things again. Because we have a relationship. A real relationship. My son is not a to-do list accomplisher as though he's my personal workhorse. He's my child, and I love him. I have the same relationship with the Master of the Universe, my beloved Father, my Creator. He LOVES me! If I can't complete his "to-do" list, I go back to Him, ask for help, relearn the process, and then try again. The just man falleth 7 times, and riseth up again, says the wisest man who ever lived. He's your Father! Your Creator! He loves you dearly!! You don't need Jesus to protect you from the wrath of your scary Father. He's not scary at all! Go directly to Him, with no mediator. He's waiting with open arms!! ❤

[@japhethbenpeter1297]

😂😂😂 what nonsense, no scriptural basis of your drivel… Wikipedia 😂😂😂

[@earlygenesistherevealedcos1982]

That's where I started, then I went to Chabad.org to show that the reality is even worse than what Wikipedia shows. It is just more man-made religion like the sons of Adam have been trying to do since they entered the plains of Shinar after the flood. Christ is the end of the law for all who believe.

[@chasmdiver5496]

I think that the Noahide laws are prophecized in revelations 13:1. The seven heads on which a blasphemous name... I also think it is talked about in Daniel 7:5, (And there before me was a second beast, which looked like a bear. It was raised up on one of its sides, and it had three ribs in its mouth between its teeth. It was told, ‘Get up and eat your fill of flesh!) The first significance of the bear is physical : the persian empire eating 3 kingdoms Babylon, Egypt and Turkey. Its spiritual significance in Revelations 13 is an attack on the trinity, the first noahide law. As the rib represents the sacred union between a man and his wife in Genesis, the 3 ribs in the bear's mouth signify the Holy union (Father-Son), (Father-Spirit) (Son-Spirit) . I would even speculate the side higher of the bear being the roman catholics unifying with the talmudic rabbis (the lower side) in implementing the law worldwide.

[@earlygenesistherevealedcos1982]

I don't claim to know much about eschatology, except how it ends. I previously thought that Islam would get roped into that. It still may, what is left of it after it collapses. Those three.

[@chasmdiver5496]

​@@earlygenesistherevealedcos1982 Thanks for your fast reply. You have so many videos that I want to watch I will not bother you about eschatology again. :-) Lets explore your channel. May the peace of Our Lord be with you.

[@earlygenesistherevealedcos1982]

And also with you. I relish these discussions. Much better than talking about sports, weather, aches and pains, and food. I have to go online to find people to talk about the important stuff with, excepting my wife.@@chasmdiver5496

[@adrianthomas1473]

Thank you - and clear as always. Yes - Scripture is clear about the benefit of baptism. And the Babylonian Talmud is not only not authoritative but also contains anti-Christian elements. When we are Christ centred so many problems fall away.

[@earlygenesistherevealedcos1982]

I am glad to see that they seem to be notifying you these days when a vid drops@@adrianthomas1473

[@ShemaHaTorah]

Well heck with the Noahide laws, cause Noah's grandson's, Abraham himself had the whole darn Torah ! not just the 7 .. "Aḇraham obeyed My voice and guarded My Charge: My commands, My laws, and My Torah" Genesis 26:5 .. our father of faith also walked the faith as well, having the Torah handed down by YHWH through oral tradition .. All of God's sons have his Torah, if you don't have it then your not a son . Torah is not a means of deliverance, its simply given as a gift to those who are delivered . Delighting in Torah is the foremost mark of a man of Faith who is born of the Spirit of Truth. rejecting Torah is the foremost teaching of the lawless one, the antichrist

[@earlygenesistherevealedcos1982]

Rejecting Christ is the foremost teaching of the lawless one, the anti-Christ.

[@ShemaHaTorah]

Replacing christ is.. he is specifically called "the lawless one", not the jesus rejecter one. which goes to the dozens of scriptures which teach that the lawlessness is the cause for messiah rejecting people from his presence. lawlessness practicing being the primary teaching of the lawless one himself. all who obey the lawless one will despise the Torah and act accordingly in their life@@earlygenesistherevealedcos1982