Beyonce Chided For Using 60 'Lemonade' Songwriters

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The Wall Street Journal

The Wall Street Journal

8 жыл бұрын

Superstar Beyonce Knowles is one of several major artists who use dozens of songwriters on their albums. WSJ's Lee Hawkins explains the trend, contrasting it with the more personal songwriting practices of legends like Prince and Michael Jackson.
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@michaelmcd8325
@michaelmcd8325 3 жыл бұрын
This is why '25' won aoty, Adele had mostly written it by herself, all original and took no samples
@takemyhand1988
@takemyhand1988 2 жыл бұрын
It is said that every lyric is written by Adele. Only the melodies come from others
@michaelmcd8325
@michaelmcd8325 2 жыл бұрын
@@takemyhand1988 Yeh Adele wrote 99% of the Album
@jesuswilljudge7296
@jesuswilljudge7296 7 ай бұрын
Beyonce is blocked from Grammys from getting Albulm or record of the year cause she's a thief
@SideEyeee_
@SideEyeee_ 4 ай бұрын
I agree but sampling is NOT a bad thing when it’s done properly.
@jazminelee5166
@jazminelee5166 Ай бұрын
@@SideEyeee_ It is a bad thing. No one is creating any original music because everything is sampled. Why is everything sampled? Because people can't play instruments anymore due to music programs being cut in the 80s/90s.
@leggot8258
@leggot8258 5 жыл бұрын
Beyone be like: lets change "sea" to "ocean". Gets writing credit.
@darkfutureleft596
@darkfutureleft596 4 жыл бұрын
Ahhh lolz true
@lynnettebell2254
@lynnettebell2254 3 жыл бұрын
and that's exactly what she does. LOL
@rydercdaniels4475
@rydercdaniels4475 2 жыл бұрын
@@lynnettebell2254 no it’s not
@lynnettebell2254
@lynnettebell2254 2 жыл бұрын
@@rydercdaniels4475 how you know???? She lied about writing irreplaceable. Poor Neyo had to give himself credit for that song. Smh. So, from that point on, her writing songs hasn't been creatible. Sorry babe, the proof is in the lies she tells. If you aren't familiar with songwriting; real song writers write for others and not just themselves. Beyonce doesn't write her own music. All she does is change a couple of nouns, conjunctions, and articles, and get credit for it. If you don't believe me, just simply do your research, if you like, and conclude your own findings. Have a great day!
@Badgalriri2.0
@Badgalriri2.0 Жыл бұрын
@@rydercdaniels4475 it is
@CatACor21.
@CatACor21. 5 жыл бұрын
But she always takes credit for it. Like gurl... bye
@dennisvillaflor3359
@dennisvillaflor3359 4 жыл бұрын
There is no issue with her using songwriters but to include herself when she mostly is a producer is the problem. How did it become racist, she always claims to writing her songs.
@sheritaskitchen1820
@sheritaskitchen1820 2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@SR-zv5ue
@SR-zv5ue 2 жыл бұрын
Most producers get songwriting credits even if they didn’t write the words to songs in hip hop, r and b and pop.
@noname-nobody1247
@noname-nobody1247 2 жыл бұрын
@@SR-zv5ue only Beyonce fans say this. Why didn't Quincy Jones get songwriting credits for billie Jean, BAD, Dirty Diana, Liberian Girl?
@SR-zv5ue
@SR-zv5ue 2 жыл бұрын
@@noname-nobody1247 Because Quincy didn’t make that arrangement in his contract and isn’t a hip hop producer. Songwriting laws have changed since the 70s and 80s and what was acceptable then became not acceptable now. Common place then is different than now. But if you really want to go there Quincy Jones himself said Michael Jackson has ripped off of people and not credited them. It’s the arrangement made between the songwriter, producer and singer who gets credited for what. Producers now want to make more money so they ask for songwriting credit. You saying only Beyonce fans say this is being ignorant. Look at Dr Dre he doesn’t write but only produces yet is credited as a songwriter on a lot of the music he’s involved in. Maybe listen to Quest Love Supreme podcast and listen to what Baby Face experienced when trying to work with Michael Jackson. Michael Jackson didn’t always write as much as he said he wrote.
@noname-nobody1247
@noname-nobody1247 2 жыл бұрын
@@SR-zv5ue lies. Michael last had an album released in 2014 . Why didn't the producers get credit for songs Michael wrote than???
@jennylee5003
@jennylee5003 Жыл бұрын
She steals music, choreography, stage and video ideas This isn’t just a “group effort”
@prettylola3012
@prettylola3012 5 жыл бұрын
NEO also wrote for Beyoncé and at her concert she said she wrote it she is very much overrated please never compare her to the greatest entertainer Micheal Jackson of all time she cannot shine his shoes she has also copied Janet Jackson.
@darkfutureleft596
@darkfutureleft596 4 жыл бұрын
She copied everybody
@Tatiana_B24
@Tatiana_B24 4 жыл бұрын
He's Ne-Yo
@jayla9312
@jayla9312 4 жыл бұрын
Beyoncé is one of the greatest entertainers of all time and that’s just a well known fact. Beyoncé has work her but off...she has been in the Industry for like 23 year’s, and your gonna call her overrated. Idk if she copied Janet Jackson but she most likely sampled it. Don’t forget that Beyoncé still writes her own music she wrote most of the music in destiny’s Child. There was nothing wrong with using other writers or how many.
@gabrielam.8311
@gabrielam.8311 4 жыл бұрын
@@jayla9312 but where's the originality in that?
@jayla9312
@jayla9312 4 жыл бұрын
Gabriela M Originality does not have to be in every single song because if we’re talking about originality a whole bunch of artists like Tory Lanez , Ariana Grande they all used songs from the past where is the originality in that
@vechris2001
@vechris2001 6 жыл бұрын
Explains why she didn't get that album of the year
@yourlittlesecret7575
@yourlittlesecret7575 5 жыл бұрын
Oooff
@darkfutureleft596
@darkfutureleft596 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@lynnettebell2254
@lynnettebell2254 3 жыл бұрын
it's starting to make sense now.
@sheritaskitchen1820
@sheritaskitchen1820 2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@sheritaskitchen1820
@sheritaskitchen1820 2 жыл бұрын
All she needed was Jay-Z lol
@LPeter-gn4th
@LPeter-gn4th 4 жыл бұрын
Her fans aways come up with the "oh but samplings"... girl if you exclude samples she has 22 to 24.... that don't look good
@SR-zv5ue
@SR-zv5ue 2 жыл бұрын
If you breakdown every song though that’s 1 to 3 writers on a song. She doesn’t use the same songwriters for every song so a more accurate representation is to see how many writers are on each song, and that’s 1 to 3 writers. Remember she also credits her producers as writers even though they don’t actually write any lyrics.
@javiruiz8365
@javiruiz8365 2 ай бұрын
@@SR-zv5ueshe doesn’t write at all
@SR-zv5ue
@SR-zv5ue 2 ай бұрын
@@javiruiz8365 she does write
@anarki777
@anarki777 8 жыл бұрын
Lol racist though? Come the fuck on. Literally everything is racist these days. How can a criticism of using too many ghost writers be racist?
@CatACor21.
@CatACor21. 5 жыл бұрын
That’s why Taylor has 2 aoty Grammys 🤷🏽‍♀️
@kristalbeauty1726
@kristalbeauty1726 3 жыл бұрын
Oh nvm I’m late😭
@kristalbeauty1726
@kristalbeauty1726 3 жыл бұрын
And right Taylor Swift actually writes her music and sometimes she has her friend as a co writer.but she still gives him credit
@shantell4259
@shantell4259 Жыл бұрын
Taylor swift was also sued last year for copyright infringement regarding her song “Shake It Off”. 🤷🏾‍♀️
@CatACor21.
@CatACor21. Жыл бұрын
@@shantell4259 Who can really lay claim to “Players gonna play, haters gonna hate”? Like seriously. 🥴 3LW n every rapper should get in line as well.
@shantell4259
@shantell4259 Жыл бұрын
@@CatACor21. Neyo states in his interview with the Breakfast Club “the songs me an beyonce wrote were two different songs, she put her spin on it so therefore she deserves credit”. Does she write every single song by herself, No. However, since Destiny’s Child she has written, co-written, and produced the majority of her songs. For example, she wrote Dangerously In Love 2 by herself but credits the producer Errol as a writer and producer even though he didn’t write any lyrics. Oh and she was only 19 when she wrote that. In 2002, she was the first Black woman to win an ASCAP award for Song Writer of the Year for writing/co-writing songs. Many mainstream artists including Michael Jackson and Taylor Swift (one of the best songwriters of our generation) have been sued for allegedly stealing lyrics or songs. Ed Sheeran was just sued this year(2022) for allegedly stealing lyrics for “Shape of You” but he won the case. My point is recording artists are often sued by unknown artists sometimes rightfully and sometimes they just want money and clout, as Ed mentions in an NPR article. A musicians musical credibility should not be based on if they write every song or play every instrument. It’s nothing wrong with having co-writers, as long as they are being paid. Her having 60+ credits on Lemonade is not a testament to her lack of musicality but her integrity and making sure everyone who inspired her including writers, producers, engineers, etc.. receives their fair share. Best, Shantell ASinger/Songwriter
@meghanprincess3904
@meghanprincess3904 4 жыл бұрын
No wonder she didn't win aoty
@meltingice5697
@meltingice5697 4 жыл бұрын
Remind me again why did she receive a millenium award at the Billboard Music Awards before Whitney and Britney?!
@verystylishordinarypeople
@verystylishordinarypeople 2 жыл бұрын
Probably because Rihanna has her shook.
@secrets.295
@secrets.295 5 жыл бұрын
I really am annoyed with these whole singer/songwriter trends. If a singer doesnt write his/her own songs, why is it such a big deal? A singer should focus on singing first then only on other things. If u r a talented writer like Prince, MJ, Madonna, Mariah Carey, its fine. Because they were a big part of the genius of making the album. But you have 60 different writers in one album and u want to claim urself as one of the most creative singer ever. Its like just pathetic.
@florence9702
@florence9702 5 жыл бұрын
Well.....maybe it's because beyonce claims that she wrote songs, that were written by other people🤷‍♀️
@danielpichardo654
@danielpichardo654 4 жыл бұрын
Because she has said she writes her own stuff.
@mrasmussen90
@mrasmussen90 3 жыл бұрын
It wouldn’t be a big deal if she didn’t try to play it off like she writes it herself.
@adwowaafful3617
@adwowaafful3617 3 жыл бұрын
It becomes a problem when you try so hard to make it seem like you did it all yourself.
@kcake3501
@kcake3501 2 жыл бұрын
Beyonce is known for stealing and it's even made in jokes now. The whole music world knows she's a fraud.
@slateflash
@slateflash 3 жыл бұрын
"Art has rarely, if ever, been the product of isolated genius" so let's just forget about all of classical music then
@trojanusc2376
@trojanusc2376 11 ай бұрын
60 songwriters and this is result?
@Dizzeeyout
@Dizzeeyout 3 жыл бұрын
As a songwriter, here's some food for thought... I've written songs in under 5 minutes and others have taken years to complete, the creative process is unpredictable. Some artists are capable of songwriting but once they become a 'brand' there is no more room for authentic writing, because a lot of the inspiration comes from living a 'normal life'. They can make a choice, let's look at Adele for example, she takes several years out to ensure she can live and ultimately create songs that will truthfully reflect her artistry. This requires her to remove herself from the limelight, probably even rejecting potential contracts/income in order to maintain her privacy and lifestyle. We cannot expect this from every artist, as creatives aren't the same. If they were, then songwriters would consequently lose their income... Remember being a songwriter doesn't equate to wanting fame. There are many great songwriters who you probably won't know because they are out busking or singing in pubs. Ed Sheeran was 'discovered' whilst busking on the streets of London, imagine if he was never heard... Ultimately, all songwriters want is to be adequately credited for their work this could be financially or having their name added to a major artists album credits. If you really want to advocate for us, then look at the law, help us fight the archaic legal structures in place that affect our income. Streaming distributors, copyrights, KZbin (producer/songwriter credits)... Look out for us when you are searching for lyrics, or listening to songs on youtube... Songwriter's just want to be able to afford to use their gifts to keep a roof over their heads, 99% of us actually enjoy the freedom of not being boxed into the industry but rather being able to create freely.
@jenesaisquoi5606
@jenesaisquoi5606 3 жыл бұрын
Michael Jackson, arguably the most famous singer in the world, was still able to write songs at his peak. Stranger in Moscow, Childhood, these are about his personal experiences. This makes your argument invalid :(
@billybucks8234
@billybucks8234 2 жыл бұрын
Michael Jackson is the most popular man ever. Jesus was more popular but that’s different
@sheritaskitchen1820
@sheritaskitchen1820 2 жыл бұрын
And I believe you because sometimes all you got to do is write about things that's happening they quit the write about being cheated on lol
@keithchegwin1222
@keithchegwin1222 2 жыл бұрын
@@jenesaisquoi5606 Did he use song writers as well?
@sperrotta91
@sperrotta91 Жыл бұрын
Are we suggesting the well of creativity routinely runs dry once fame sets in?! I can see your point but it's such a lazy cop out... for instance, Prince did much of his best work at the height of his fame and was largely self-sufficient as a songwriter, arranger and producer...
@JRLOC
@JRLOC 5 ай бұрын
So cringy that she allegedly tried to say she wrote Emotions, a song written by The Bee Gees-in the 70s. Turns out that’s allegedly not the only song she claims to have written but didn’t. It seems like she can’t always keep her story straight on what she “wrote” so-just say you wrote them all! How embarrassing.
@Dedicated2WendyWilliams
@Dedicated2WendyWilliams 4 жыл бұрын
she doesn't "write her songs" she's lying, she adds a few "Ohhs" and "oooo's" to a lyric and thinks she's writing all the sudden?? P.s im not getting Tidal, so u can keep your album until it comes to spotify
@DannyVampire14
@DannyVampire14 4 жыл бұрын
B NY how are you so sure that’s her only contribution? What’s your proof? Or do you just like saying things without thinking or proof?
@Dedicated2WendyWilliams
@Dedicated2WendyWilliams 4 жыл бұрын
@@DannyVampire14 trust me its evident, check Mariah's track record, she was the 50% contributor to her own success. Beyonce may claim she is but the lies have been exposed, "irreplaceable was written by NE-YO! and a few others were written by the dream, and so on and so forth :)
@darkfutureleft596
@darkfutureleft596 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@darkfutureleft596
@darkfutureleft596 4 жыл бұрын
B NY lol true
@lovelife1928
@lovelife1928 3 жыл бұрын
🤣
@CHEETAH69
@CHEETAH69 8 жыл бұрын
She didn't have 60 writers in the sense that 60 different writers wrote lyrics. Beyonce did use many samples. The people responsible for those samples have to be credited for their contribution.
@OmarHudson
@OmarHudson 5 жыл бұрын
No disrespect but imagine 60 ppl in your backyard...better yet in your house to grasp the enormity of that number. Every song on the album doesn't contain a sample. So even remove the song with samples and considering that there isn't very much instrumentation ... There is still several ppl involved in the writing on each song read the names alot of them are recording artist themselves...not musicians. The Dream, party next door, the weekend, Swae Lee etc.
@Dedicated2WendyWilliams
@Dedicated2WendyWilliams 4 жыл бұрын
yes she did, look at the album writing credits then come back ... u need to learn how to observe these things. go look at Mariahs from 1990 then you will see the difference
@darkfutureleft596
@darkfutureleft596 4 жыл бұрын
Then it’s not her art that’s why she hasn’t had a real solo number one since Rihanna became a superstar
@darkfutureleft596
@darkfutureleft596 4 жыл бұрын
Omar Hudson thank you
@LPeter-gn4th
@LPeter-gn4th 4 жыл бұрын
Even without samples... it has 22 to 24 actual songwriters. That's STILL a lot
@Rielestkid
@Rielestkid 8 жыл бұрын
It's a good point he made in this piece about the law suits artists deal with these days. If someone so much as farts in the writing room they want to be credited on the album. So back in the day, a lot of co-writers may have gotten ripped off. Still Beyonce needs to chill with all these writers, you got Jay Z, have him write the lyrics about cheating on you lol.
@darkfutureleft596
@darkfutureleft596 4 жыл бұрын
Ahhh lolz
@geetraldinha
@geetraldinha 2 жыл бұрын
How do you pay the royalty for a song made by 15+ people? If you say some names like Mariah Carey, Alicia Keys, Taylor Swift, Lady Gaga are the real songwriters then I believe in you.
@TheMadDabbler
@TheMadDabbler Жыл бұрын
As if sampling gives a song more creative clout.
@Anvyy
@Anvyy 4 жыл бұрын
I made a video why nowadays there are so many artists credited in a single song, but I didn't realize there were Beyonce writing camps.
@TaylorMade511
@TaylorMade511 8 жыл бұрын
Elvis never wrote a song.
@KennyFame
@KennyFame 8 жыл бұрын
+Taylor ∆ but Elvis was never regarded as a songwriter Beyonce claims to be; nor did a hundred people create one elvis track
@CHEETAH69
@CHEETAH69 8 жыл бұрын
neither did Whitney Houston.
@TheLostSaint
@TheLostSaint 6 жыл бұрын
But he wasn't arguing against it, he's pointing out the hypocrisy...
@TheLostSaint
@TheLostSaint 6 жыл бұрын
Sure obasaz, whatever makes you feel better.
@NuclearHaggis
@NuclearHaggis 6 жыл бұрын
Joshua Taylor Madison Nobody called him a genius.
@perstephanies
@perstephanies 10 ай бұрын
The story of how that song came together is so interesting.Collaboration breeds creativity.❤
@warriorking799
@warriorking799 2 жыл бұрын
Beyonce was never a songwriter or producer she just says she is but she's not. She's can't even write.
@kittensmitten3287
@kittensmitten3287 Жыл бұрын
Exactly. But her delusional fans are too slow to realize. So sad
@kittensmitten3287
@kittensmitten3287 Жыл бұрын
@@shantell4259 no we haven't, but Neyo, who's come out to expose her lying, the 35 plus writers on every song she got, and being sued several times (public docs) is enough to make such a claim. Don't be delusional
@shantell4259
@shantell4259 Жыл бұрын
@@kittensmitten3287 Neyo states in his interview with the Breakfast Club “the songs me an beyonce wrote were two different songs, she put her spin on it so therefore she deserves credit”. Does she write every single song by herself, No. However, since Destiny’s Child she has written, co-written, and produced the majority of her songs. For example, she wrote Dangerously In Love 2 by herself but credits the producer Errol as a writer and producer even though he didn’t write any lyrics. Oh and she was only 19 when she wrote that. In 2002, she was the first Black woman to win an ASCAP award for Song Writer of the Year for writing/co-writing songs. Many mainstream artists including Michael Jackson and Taylor Swift (one of the best songwriters of our generation) have been sued for allegedly stealing lyrics or songs. Ed Sheeran was just sued this year(2022) for allegedly stealing lyrics for “Shape of You” but he won the case. My point is recording artists are often sued by unknown artists sometimes rightfully and sometimes they just want money and clout, as Ed mentions in an article. A musicians musical credibility should not be based on if they write every song or play every instrument. It’s nothing wrong with having co-writers, as long as they are being paid. Her having 60+ credits on Lemonade is not a testament to her lack of musicality but her integrity and making sure everyone who inspired her writers, producers, engineers, etc.. receives their fair share. Best, Shantell A Delusional Singer/Songwriter 😊
@kittensmitten3287
@kittensmitten3287 Жыл бұрын
@@shantell4259 girl not u posting his fake and contrived interview 🤣🤣🤣 During that time, speaking against Beyonce would get you blackballed. Neyo was sucking D hard then to keep his career. That's already been exposed. Girl, please, I know u can't be that dunce. Beyonce does NOT write anything. So how u explain the lawsuits, plagiarism, copy steal and paste. Chile. I'm so glad she's being exposed hard these days
@chromaticaaoty175
@chromaticaaoty175 5 жыл бұрын
Lemonade has a great concept and amazing production. The songwriting really is a let down, specially seeing the amount of samples but each song still being repetitive.
@alejandrafaura9273
@alejandrafaura9273 2 жыл бұрын
how come the songs from Lemonade are repetitive? None of the songs sounds like the previous or the next one…
@SR-zv5ue
@SR-zv5ue 2 жыл бұрын
All night long, Pray you catch me, Six inch heels, Daddy lessons, Love drought, sandcastles, forward, don’t hurt yourself all are not repetitive, not sure where you got that from. The only songs you can possibly make that argument for is Hold up.
@wayfaringstranger4362
@wayfaringstranger4362 2 жыл бұрын
@@SR-zv5ue I think what that person meant by repetitive is the message or theme of he song. If someone Sings about money, using different lyrics... the point is they're still singing about money. Giving the same message
@SR-zv5ue
@SR-zv5ue 2 жыл бұрын
@@wayfaringstranger4362 That is incorrect as well then if that’s the case. Literally every song in Lemonade is about a different stage, redemption, reformation etc. And if we’re talking about subject matter most artists sing about the same things in general especially with R & B which is mostly about romance and love/sex. Not sure why she’s singled out for this. Mariah Carey mostly sings about love/breaks up/heartbreak and sex
@MichiganHendough
@MichiganHendough 2 жыл бұрын
She stole the trailer
@roshayerving1182
@roshayerving1182 3 жыл бұрын
People can go back and forth. Yes! We have had some rare Megastars in our Lifetime. That became Iconic and Legendary. We do care about if you write. It’s okay to get help with your art but not all the time. Every song , Every project the artist put out.
@dothedeed
@dothedeed 8 жыл бұрын
2:29 shots fired.
@alejandrafaura9273
@alejandrafaura9273 2 жыл бұрын
It’s not only about samples, it’s also about interpolations; if Beyoncé says “I get my swag on” she has to credit Soulja Boy because that was written by him first, and each time she mentions a lyric from another artist she goes and adds it to the writing credits because that’s her integrity. Beyoncé is all about details and she is going to make sure each artist that influenced her even unconsciously gets their credit. That’s it, the reality is that 20-23 people were the actual writers and I wouldn’t be bothered because creating bodies of work like Lemonade requires a lot of thinking and talent from several people (I’m super late but I had to write it).
@verystylishordinarypeople
@verystylishordinarypeople 2 жыл бұрын
We wouldn't care if she didnt lie. Nobody cares that Whitney Houston did not write her songs. Then again, I never change the station when I hear Whitney Houston's voice.
@SR-zv5ue
@SR-zv5ue 2 жыл бұрын
@@verystylishordinarypeople Where is she lying though? The writing credits are clear as day? She does write her music and she writes verses or bridges as a minimum contribution to her songs. She also did write the entire Survivor album from Destiny’s Child by herself and co-wrote the Writings on the Wall. She wrote all the verses on Formation and Partition. She wrote Dangerously In Love the song all by herself. She wrote the bridge to Irreplaceable, Halo, and Crazy in Love. She never lied about writing. She is a songwriter but in recent albums she has decided to go on a more collaborative way which is fine so long as she credits the writers which she has. She even said Neyo wrote on her album.
@verystylishordinarypeople
@verystylishordinarypeople 2 жыл бұрын
@@SR-zv5ue Thanks for the information. Have a good day
@keithchegwin1222
@keithchegwin1222 2 жыл бұрын
She has little to nothing to do with her hits
@noname-nobody1247
@noname-nobody1247 2 жыл бұрын
Facts
@beegum1
@beegum1 8 жыл бұрын
It's fine. I think these group efforts are successes in themselves not something that should detract from what has been accomplished. I was going to be on board with Vanity Faire until they said racist, lol. I can explain that in the US and among some artists there's a strong DIY culture. DIY can be extraordinarily impressive, but it's generally difficult to get as good of results with DIY as with a group effort, though it's still not THAT hard. But with something like art one can be sure the product wouldn't be the same.
@SR-zv5ue
@SR-zv5ue 2 жыл бұрын
People need to understand that in hip hop and r & b and sometimes pop working with some producers you agree to give them writing credits even if they didn’t actually write any lyrics or melodies and just produced the beats. It’s become very common practice for producers to get writing credits even if they didn’t write the lyrics. And when you taken into consideration that some of the songs were sampled really each song has 1 to 3 writers at most. A lot of people in the comments here are saying Adele solely wrote 25. That’s not necessarily true. She didn’t produce most of her songs on any of her albums and the producers she worked with didn’t get writing credits, that’s just how whatever contracts/deal she had with the producers worked. Beyoncé has always given writing credit to her producers even if they didn’t write anything. Also Adele still had 1 to 3 writers on each song, most of the albums she had no sole writing credit. And some of you may come for Beyonce for using samples, but at the end of the day most if not all of the samples are used for the sound or instrumentation of the songs which most songwriters have no part in, Adele and Taylor Swift included. The sounds are part of the production and therefore the sampling is too, so if Adele has no part in the production how is she more creative than Beyoncé who is part of the production and uses a sample? Sampling can definitely affect artistic integrity at some point if you don’t use it correctly but it also is a great way to put money in the pockets of other artists or their families that came before you. Would it be better to sample an artist or make a song that’s inspired closely by the artist and slightly change it so you don’t have to offer writing credit legally? Because there are many songs that are similar to other songs where there aren’t any sampling credits but the artist clearly was inspired by.
@noname-nobody1247
@noname-nobody1247 2 жыл бұрын
Than explain why real artists who wrote on their own like Prince, Michael Jackson, Stevie Wonder never gave a producer any Songwriter's credits??
@SR-zv5ue
@SR-zv5ue 2 жыл бұрын
@@noname-nobody1247 Prince literally played every instrument on his songs. Same with Stevie Wonder, and Quincy Jones has said that Michael stole a lot of ideas and back then it was not common practice to add producers as songwriters.
@mikee6220
@mikee6220 8 жыл бұрын
Dude is the wsj or e news?
@Bangieflea
@Bangieflea 5 жыл бұрын
Collaboration isn't bad. Like, something isn't better because one person did it alone. Beyonce keeps creatives employed when most of you lot (who have never written a bar in your life) refuse to pay for your entertainment.
@sperrotta91
@sperrotta91 Жыл бұрын
Collaboration isn't bad but passing off others' work as your own certainly is... as is lavishing unduly prodigal praise on singers for seminal songs they had minimal involvement in crafting...
@gigilaroux762
@gigilaroux762 Жыл бұрын
When you have that many voices it’s amazing they are all too ableist to catch her unPC lyrics and call her out on them.
@wubijegyacob1338
@wubijegyacob1338 6 күн бұрын
Beyonce wrote so many of songs for Destiny's child, she has even written songs for Eminem, Lady Gaga and Naughty boy.
@WElppp
@WElppp 6 жыл бұрын
Kanye used more than 100 writers, Taylor Swift also isn’t much of a singer either💀
@shspurs1342
@shspurs1342 6 жыл бұрын
Du Koe A 100 percent Ray Charles tune.
@Red-fj7nw
@Red-fj7nw 3 жыл бұрын
@@mylifeisruined4413 is that her fault tho💀 beyonce doesnt have competition nowadays thats why she gets grammys. back in the 90's music actually were still praised by critics
@LuisEnriqueFerrerZorola
@LuisEnriqueFerrerZorola 3 жыл бұрын
"probably racist" 🤣🤣🤣🤣 yeah right
@EC-dg6ti
@EC-dg6ti 2 жыл бұрын
Prince used Stevie Wonder as a role model to "keep his vision clear" 😬 ok...
@keithchegwin1222
@keithchegwin1222 9 ай бұрын
She just pays them to put her name on it I think.
@zipo1039
@zipo1039 2 ай бұрын
Inspired or credit grabbber??😂
@miss_treeliv8204
@miss_treeliv8204 5 жыл бұрын
It takes a team to write a hit
@rosabscura
@rosabscura 5 жыл бұрын
... eh?
@skimaskhiphop3106
@skimaskhiphop3106 5 жыл бұрын
No mj wrote bet it , smooth criminal, Bad and a lot more hits by his self
@sperrotta91
@sperrotta91 Жыл бұрын
Not necessarily.
@caldoesmusic8984
@caldoesmusic8984 3 жыл бұрын
2:24 Did... did he just call Kanye West “skilled”!?!?
@TheMadDabbler
@TheMadDabbler Жыл бұрын
"probably racist" lol
@MissPerpul
@MissPerpul 2 ай бұрын
She's a performer, not an artist.
@Daphneamy360
@Daphneamy360 6 жыл бұрын
Beyonce is a stealler she stole beats and dances. So many Artist do it Stop Sampling old school. Music please leave the classic alone please ask the orginators fist or if they past away. Ask their family first smh but some were good. Samplers though but with this new generation I will not let no one sample my songs or dance moves even if they ask or pay me if I die abd you make contribute video you ask my family first thenif they say yes pay them after just say lol Ps if you do it without permission ill take you to court. Sad some Caucasians steal from Urban people sincs history. But wish Urban people most of would think of their own beat and lyrics from the heart. Smh
@SylvesterFelton
@SylvesterFelton 8 жыл бұрын
who cares as long as the music is great
@KennyFame
@KennyFame 8 жыл бұрын
+Sylvester Felton you would have to be an actual artist to understand this conversation
@maryem291092
@maryem291092 6 жыл бұрын
The songwriters who get no credit and stay stuck in bad contracts ... this is their lively-hood , that's how they make a living ... also they are artists and they should reap some praise when their work is successful ....
@byeleavingyoutubelovealdcs8989
@byeleavingyoutubelovealdcs8989 5 жыл бұрын
the ghost writers who get little to no credit
@duskrev
@duskrev 3 жыл бұрын
if this was taylor, everyone would drag her for not writing her songs. make it make sense. let's stop being biased for at least once, eh
@theworldstage7712
@theworldstage7712 2 жыл бұрын
@@KennyFame thank youuuuu
@Xplicid100
@Xplicid100 5 жыл бұрын
the death of a singer/songwriter??? Many singers do not ... i repeat DO NOT write their own lyrics. Never have. Tell me how many songs Patti has written, Aretha, Whitney, Brandy, Monica, Rihanna, Janet Jackson, Gladys Knight, Phyllis Hyman, Faith Evans, Mary J. Blije, Toni Braxton. I mean the list goes on... It's a talent when singers write for themselves on every single record, plus Prince taught himself how to play instruments. The man is gifted in his own right. but the only thing singers really did was exactly what they did... Sing. I'm sure nobody is going to scold Whitney,Tina, or Mariah because they didn't write their own songs. Rappers is another story. If you are a rapper, you should be pushing the pen.
@hotchocolate8320
@hotchocolate8320 5 жыл бұрын
Xplicid100...they also never claimed to be songwriters. Why would they Scold Whitney or Mariah. Whitney has only claimed to be what she is a VOCALIST. Mariah literally wrote 15 of her 18 #1s, proven facts. She has written 97% of her songs. I like her music but Beyoncé has lied about writing songs(exNeyo+Keri Hilson,IIWAB), that’s why she is being discredited.
@mcfanrobinhood
@mcfanrobinhood 4 жыл бұрын
You know nothing . Mariah wrote 17 of her number 1 hits . Go away
@dennisvillaflor3359
@dennisvillaflor3359 4 жыл бұрын
Lol Mariah wrote most of her songs. And produces it as well. Jermaine and randy Jackson has said that mariah is also involved in the instrumentals like MJ, she tells them what kind of sound she wants. Even though she doesn’t play.
@stinglish7663
@stinglish7663 4 жыл бұрын
Mariah not writing her songs? She has literally written almost her entire discography excepting for covers, plus since her second album she has been producing her songs till this day
@darkfutureleft596
@darkfutureleft596 4 жыл бұрын
Most of these singers are complete vocalists like Whitney. Beyoncé is just a performer no vocalist
@konstantinostsitsios4053
@konstantinostsitsios4053 4 жыл бұрын
It's a shame you criticize Beyonce for using a lot of songwriters , when Max Martin has written the majority of the pop hits the last twenty years. There are no singers who write their own music alone.
@timothy2491
@timothy2491 4 жыл бұрын
Yes but those singers don't put their name on every song when they weren't involved
@duskrev
@duskrev 3 жыл бұрын
Taylor Swift exists.
@sparklingdaisy3169
@sparklingdaisy3169 3 жыл бұрын
Mariah Carey co-wrote all of her songs except for the covers.
@mcfanrobinhood
@mcfanrobinhood 3 жыл бұрын
Mariah Carey
@verystylishordinarypeople
@verystylishordinarypeople 2 жыл бұрын
Not true, Phil Collins has been credited as the sole songwriter on one of his hits.
@juniors8745
@juniors8745 3 жыл бұрын
i don t see the problem
@dee-jh2mc
@dee-jh2mc 3 жыл бұрын
It's a problem when she's compared in terms of talent when other people contributed more to art than her
@juniors8745
@juniors8745 3 жыл бұрын
@@dee-jh2mc according to you, right? Maybe she has not contributed to the art that you like but that she has contributed more than the vast majority have, so stop that
@dee-jh2mc
@dee-jh2mc 3 жыл бұрын
@@juniors8745 Accomplish but with who's ideas not her own she is nothing special. She would not have lasted in the 80s with true musicians and artist and this is the truth
@juniors8745
@juniors8745 3 жыл бұрын
@@dee-jh2mc oh please, the fact that she steals ideas does not make her a worse artist, all artists copy, each and every one of them even michael jackson copied many things from other artists, and another thing as you know that it would not have lasted long in that epoch, are you God? Oh you are I guess maybe, I know that it is difficult to accept that someone you do not like has talent and plenty of it, but hey so I will continue to be sorry for you
@juniors8745
@juniors8745 3 жыл бұрын
@@dee-jh2mc She is better than the artists of the 80s because she has known how to maintain and today she is a name that goes on and on and her career does not die
@beasaroseco5840
@beasaroseco5840 Жыл бұрын
Its ok, she got lawsuit money💰 🤑. 🤣😂😂
@tierneebailey375
@tierneebailey375 3 жыл бұрын
Hxhdhd
@seventyeight4237
@seventyeight4237 2 жыл бұрын
This video is basically nobodies on the internet have been throwing shade at Bey.... Yawn.
@boxertest
@boxertest 8 жыл бұрын
Meh! Money has been spent and made.........There is far more serious things happening in the world than singers!
@chynababii28
@chynababii28 8 жыл бұрын
Oh pls we all know Bey can write her own songs she's not the only one who does it as stated, so if she hires other song writers they need work too and we get to hear good music.
@mostafaalaa4403
@mostafaalaa4403 3 жыл бұрын
We all know? When did she write any hit by her own?
@verystylishordinarypeople
@verystylishordinarypeople 2 жыл бұрын
Mariah Carey writes the majority of her songs. Then again Mariah Carey is very intelligent. Her songs are for intelligent people. What is your favourite Mariah Carey song?
@SR-zv5ue
@SR-zv5ue 2 жыл бұрын
@@mostafaalaa4403 She wrote the whole Survivor album herself, co-wrote on The Writings in The Wall, wrote Dangeorusly in Love. There’s many instances of her writing her own music and co-writing.
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