Beyond Good & Evil #4: The Esoteric (II.26 - II.37)

[@ChucksExotics]

Universities should be paying you big bucks to lecture.

[@darillus1]

totally agree, although he can reach a larger audience on youtube

[@BJ52091]

It’s not in most universities’ best interests to allow such heresies to be spoken against the cult of Equality.

[@dannyteal1020]

What use are universities? He is doing what he loves and being appreciated by people who honor him.

[@ChucksExotics]

@@dannyteal1020 I'm not saying he's doing anything wrong, I'm saying the universities are. If I was a philosophy professor, I'd be sourcing funding to get him to come speak. Also I wasn't implying he should stop doing this, of course not. Also I was just expressing how good what he does is, by saying that universities should be begging him to come to them. I'm not suggesting he go to them and ask to speak, as like a business suggestion or something. So yeah, universities should be paying him big bucks, or they should just pay him to exist. Some one give this man a million dollars.

[@jackflashproductions6898]

No, you should!

[@socialswine3656]

0:00 Introducing the chapter and comparing to the previous 5:10 Section 26 20:55 Section 27 24:29 Section 28 35:53 Section 29 41:33 Section 30 57:48 Section 31 1:05:59 Section 32 1:23:03 Section 33 1:29:24 Section 34 1:48:48 Section 35 1:52:45 Section 36 2:06:26 Section 37

[@damin1916]

you are a legend, this is a helpfull comment for those who seek some insight on sections after reading them. Thanks, this helped me!

[@socialswine3656]

@@damin1916 all g dude! did the whole series except the first few

[@andrewbowen2837]

There's a connection that I'm unsure if you've made or not, but when Nietzsche says he "went down" or is "going down" both in this and in Zarathustra, they are allusions to Plato's Republic. It refers to the allegory of the cave, where the philosopher breaks his chains, leaves the cave, then comes back down to try and teach his fellow man. The very first line of the Republic is also a foreshadowing of this teaching of the masses, as Socrates says "I went down to the Piraeus..." The Piraeus was a port city, full of common people from all around. Therefore, Socrates went down, as a philosopher, to the people, much as Zarathustra did, and as Nietzsche references here. Masterful writing honestly

[@jasonmitchell5219]

It's the insights one gains by practicing something like the View from Above. Nietzsche as Mystic and had he doubted everything more seriously or had he lived longer, perhaps he would've recanted much of what he said, "Noble enough was he..." His epigram on the courage to attack ones convictions is one of my favourite maxims.

[@gingerbreadzak]

00:00 📚 Nietzsche contrasts the first part of "Beyond Good and Evil," where he psychologized philosophers, with the second part, advocating for the free spirit's perspective. 02:26 🧠 Nietzsche views philosophy as an instinctual activity driven by valuations and physiological demands rather than dispassionate rationality. 03:35 🚀 Nietzsche emphasizes the anti-universalist nature of the free spirit, encouraging philosophers to break free from old prejudices. 05:14 🏰 Human beings instinctively seek a citadel of secrecy, away from the crowd, where they can forget the common people and their rules. 08:55 🤨 Nietzsche values cynicism, seeing it as a form of honesty where base souls acknowledge their commonness. 16:53 🗣 Nietzsche suggests that one should pay attention when people speak badly but not wickedly of humanity, as it often reveals deeper truths about human nature. 21:25 😄 Nietzsche appreciates friends who make an effort to understand his complex thoughts and allows some leeway for misunderstanding among them. 22:22 🐸 Nietzsche suggests that many of our certainties about the world may be the result of limited perspectives, similar to the way frogs move slowly. 24:00 🔄 Nietzsche argues that the tempo and shape of our thoughts distinguish us and affect our philosophy. 25:53 🇩🇪 Nietzsche discusses how the German language reflects the characteristics and tempo of its speakers' thought processes. 27:28 💡 Nietzsche suggests that language is shaped by the physiological and environmental conditions of a culture, influencing thought. 36:17 🤔 Nietzsche portrays philosophical independence as a perilous journey into one's own psyche, confronting one's conscience. 42:31 🏔 Nietzsche distinguishes between exoteric (for everyone) and esoteric (for the select few) knowledge, highlighting how the latter provides a unique perspective that may transcend tragedy. 44:34 📜 Nietzsche discusses the difference between exoteric and esoteric teachings, highlighting how esoteric teachings convey deeper insights and truths beyond ordinary comprehension. 46:24 🤯 Nietzsche suggests that our highest insights in philosophy are like esoteric teachings, often sounding like folly or crimes to those who are not prepared for them. 50:17 🎭 Nietzsche mentions that there are heights of the soul where even tragedy ceases to appear tragic, suggesting a perspective where suffering is seen as necessary and justifiable in the grander scheme. 53:01 🤔 Nietzsche points out that the evaluation of suffering and the world's woes is subjective, and one's response to them can vary greatly. 55:01 📚 Nietzsche discusses how the common, universally accepted truths often lack value for exceptional individuals, emphasizing the importance of nuanced understanding. 57:56 🌟 Nietzsche reflects on the youthful tendency to passionately embrace or reject without nuance and how disillusionment and disappointment can lead to a more nuanced and mature perspective. 01:06:10 🤔 Nietzsche discusses how, in ancient times, the value of an action was determined solely by its consequences, not intentions or free will. 01:09:47 🔄 Nietzsche describes a shift from valuing actions based on consequences to valuing them based on intentions, marking a change in moral perspective. 01:13:24 🧐 Nietzsche suggests the need for a fundamental shift in values, questioning the morality of self-denial and devotion to others, emphasizing the importance of examining beliefs that make us feel good. 01:14:47 🎭 Nietzsche discusses the concept of art as a seductive guise for the emasculation of art, challenging the notion of contemplation devoid of all interest in aesthetics. 01:27:29 🎭 Nietzsche criticizes the idea that art should provide a good conscience and suggests that it should be dangerous and not morally reassuring. 01:29:05 🤔 Nietzsche questions the validity of the world we think we live in, challenging the idea that it is inherently true, which aligns with Schopenhauer's views. 01:30:40 🤯 Nietzsche explores the paradox of questioning thinking itself, as even the thought of mistrusting thinking is still a product of thinking. 01:34:08 🧐 Nietzsche highlights the moral prejudice of valuing truth over appearance, suggesting that appearances and illusions may be essential for life. 01:41:58 😄 Nietzsche challenges the assumption of an author behind a fictional world, raising doubts about the necessity of essential opposition between true and false. He proposes considering degrees of apparentness. 01:48:54 🤯 Nietzsche discusses the search for truth and its connection to doing good, suggesting that when someone seeks truth solely to do good, it reveals naivety and a moralistic view of truth. 01:54:55 🌍 Nietzsche proposes a thought experiment where the entire world can be explained as the "will to power," suggesting that everything, including organic functions and even procreation, can be traced back to this concept. 02:06:54 😈 Nietzsche challenges the common interpretation that his worldview makes the world the domain of the devil, highlighting the humor and jest in his perspective, suggesting that both God and the devil are refuted in his philosophy.

[@zerotwo7319]

1:15:23 Trying to turn lead into gold! - The room-temperature superconductor (wonder material) that made news recently had lead and copper in it's recipe... so much synchronicity...

[@andrewswanlund]

Friends of the channel: Reminder to listen to the ads at least 30 seconds so he gets credit for them. (I usually click skip as soon as allowed but not here)

[@yeyohuevonhassassin2]

This podcast is the best in the whole world

[@Balakay_Adkins]

I’m greatly enjoying your read-through of this text. In my free time I’ve been writing on the work, primarily as an intellectual exercise, but also because I really enjoy Nietzsche’s philosophy. I’ve heard you say before that Beyond Good & Evil is your favorite of his works, and it’s mine as well. I’m curious, do you have a favorite chapter/part in the book? Mine would have to be part 1, the flow of the prose is just so elegant as he challenges so many conventions of thinking in a very edifying, instructional manner.

[@brombones3110]

Greeting from Finland. Not currenly on this chapter, but I just have to say, that the way you explain thing is extremely coherent, and a joy to hear! P.S Did you play in a band?

[@sayantanmondal2403]

Great lecture series.

[@nguyenquangminh4814]

Great passage 15:34 - 17:02

[@nguyenquangminh4814]

18:15 you should pay attention when sb speaks badly of mankind but not wickedly

[@nguyenquangminh4814]

18:15 all the way to 20:50 is compelling

[@dad102]

You have a voice that is easy to listen to.

[@andrewswanlund]

Enjoying this so far, just 35 minutes in. The disclaimers about elitism might feel like pandering :D Just me maybe but I slightly got kicked out of the flow by it. I have a little chip on my shoulder about apologizing about this, I accept variations in intellectual capacity and interest in abstractions as normal. I do see though that explaining the context of elitism is maybe part of the larger flow. Can't wait to finish listening later!

[@laika6202]

I cant wait till I get to read this book, I bought the whole set and started on Zarathustra! Thank you eternally for your podcasts ❤

[@jasonmitchell5219]

For the esoteric/exoteric distinction think of the Mystery Cults or even the Platonic Corpus. In Plato's Ninth Letter he explains that his hidden teachings couldn't be simply written down for a variety of reasons like the progressive dogmatism that any philosophical/religious text will have, particularly with the uninitiated. This is also clear with the Gospels if read literally instead of allegorically or the uninitiated vs initiated or even plebs vs elite distinctions.

[@tonydang4177]

The new master of Nietzsche interpreter of era

[@organiccaveman]

55:28 haha can feel you man, would like to discuss metal with a fellow enjoyer, nevertheless i can feel the sense of esotericism here more or less in the same way.

[@michaelventer885]

Love your analysis of the great philosopher brother. Learnt so much from your labors. Just a subtle correction on the doctrine of the Trinity. It is one in being, but distinct in three persons. Ontologically. Why did Christians come to believe this? Because of the Economy: there are at least three persons (father son and spirit) acting, doing different things in history as God, according to their scriptures. Thanks again for this channel.

[@bradrandel1408]

This is so good! Would you consider doing a weekend retreat in the development of balance between the mystical spiritual and the Uber Mench…. Understanding, love agency … I sure would like to get together with all the people that can watch your videos… Please keep up the great work …. 🦋🕊🌹

[@jasonmitchell5219]

The looking inwards is riff on Socrates 'Know Thyself' or the "unexamined life ..." The going down language is also an allusion to Plato's opening line of the Republic, amongst other things.

[@jasonmitchell5219]

Historically, philosophy was always a dangerous 'way of life', particularly in the era that Nietzsche was so enamored with. Socrates being one of many obvious examples. Again, maybe a clearer description of what Philea Sofia meant in the ancient world as opposed to Philia Nikia would've been helpful. P.s. I'm not trying to be a dick with these comments. I'm just thinking aloud whilst interacting with your commentary which is really a compliment considering all the other things I could be doing at the moment.

[@ZagreusoftheDesert]

Thank Zeus for this Chanel

[@drewduncan3436]

Thank God the most high creator for this channel

[@jasonmitchell5219]

If there's no way of knowing that you inhabit a simulation or no way of escaping from one then there really is no point in hypothesising or talking about one .

[@jasonmitchell5219]

More like a practical prejudice in terms of survival as any fictive account of truth could lead us back into a Kantian radical skepticism, solipsism and hence, moral relativism. And Nietzsche's perspectivism is not a form of moral relativism. Indeed, it can be argued that his project included a lifelong quest for a naturalistiic morality devoid of any supernatural sanctio.

[@gabrielhaven1394]

Transcending the intellect is being "without sin"

[@jasonmitchell5219]

Perhaps it would have been a good idea to clarify the ancient meaning of Cynic from our modern use of the term?

[@spiritualdeath101]

cynic meant 'dog-like'

[@persephone6601]

Would you say, then, that Nietzsche's is a process philosophy? Do you, for example, see any parallels between the philosophies of Nietzsche & Whitehead?

[@Game7Mode]

If I find myself judging the masses against myself in such a manner it is not on having read specific authors or philosophers. I haven't read Spinoza or Leibnitz for example and I could list many more. My criticism (and I'm not saying I'm not wasting my time in thinking this) is to criticize the lack of adventurousness conversationally of the "average" person. I'll accuse the average person of having an infantile ego or something for being instinctively affronted when someone turns a conversation towards some topic which they consider smarty pants or something like that. Sad thing is I don't feel I'm far off in many cases at least in my experience, but that doesn't mean I gain anything or feel any better about myself for having such a thought in fact as I get older such a thought only serves to depress me.

[@kenekin3]

Your voice reminds me of the Toonami robot T.O.M.

[@HideAndRead]

Thank you!!! Listened over 100 hrs Could not figure that out

[@kenekin3]

Likewise! I had to sleuth it out for sanity's sake. Quite welcome

[@Jabranalibabry]

Speak metal Zarathustra!

[@ZagreusoftheDesert]

Haha

[@gabrielhaven1394]

"sin" means "not knowing", or "ignorance" ....it's not judgement. Sin is "challenge".

[@nickstebbens]

Much like the time-honored question between form and function, appearance and truth are necessarily composite - one cannot speak of truth without regard to where it is apparent; one should witness appearance with regard to the trueness of the witnessing.... one may look upon a lion and know many things about it by its mere appearance, and one may look upon a field of grass, knowing too exactly what it is by its appearance, but yet be ignorant of a lion creeping within it

[@nickstebbens]

Unlike the slag of self-flagellative humility and the flux of moral pretense, I find the term 'evil' functionally utile in discourse with the common man, for even the areligious like myself can discern the validity of having a descriptor for autodetrimental exodetriment - self-destructive outward destruction - be so simple and ready at hand

[@nickstebbens]

The purpose of language is to motivate behaviors, and truth is like a defense mechanism for discerning which motivators are in one's best interests to adopt and/or fulfill

[@nickstebbens]

Christians, as a general rule, are not so much lovers of Christ as much as they are anti-anti-Christs; insofar as they and Jews can agree on that, their petty squabbles about who really is and was Christ are but an afterthought

[@nickstebbens]

Is God not ultimately powerful? In doing my best to strongman the Christian ethos, I interpret it as the Devil being a tyrant who rules by self-serving means without regard to the well-being of his servants, or in other words, by promulgating evil in others while not indulging in it himself, else he'd be destroyed by his own appetite and long forgotten by now, whereas God is one who rules by most symbiotic means - self-serving, yes, but to the benefit of His (lol) compatriots - a benevolent dictator who endeavors for His own Power above all others individually, but even more so for the Power of His Company at large. In my view, so too is the nature of the Nature of nature.

[@galacticpouney2121]

Does any one know who " Abi the profoundest" is?

[@untimelyreflections]

Abbe Galliani

[@Grateful.For.Everything]

Will to Power ~ WillPower

[@thearenaparlour4469]

So, what is philosophizing with a hammer? Have you seen your ideas in he real world or do you live in a world of ideas?

[@jackflashproductions6898]

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[@indunilfernando1336]

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[@1995yuda]

It's tragic, watching a man marching into oblivion, but it becomes comedic if he marches there arrogantly. The whole of Mankind is "made in the image of God", not just a select few. The Hebrew Bible freed us from the sickness of Aristocratic Elitism and here you are proudly attempting to devolve humanity back into it. Esotericism/Mysticism is not about abstract ideas, it's about the very opposite.

[@BillJones-fn8pt]

We are all a branch of God hence the meaning behind the trinity and the sayings of Christ calling himself God . We are all a part of God . Bind through energy .

[@shanosantwanos3908]

Jordan eat ya heart out

[@jimsteele9559]

Sounds like Nietzsche approves of all Bond villains, including Klaus Schwab et al. I guess Nietzsche would have us give out, give up, give in. Resign yourself to the master’s boot in the face. Don’t sound free spirited to me.

[@jimmarcinko3323]

What would you be without those bond villains...fellow Jim? Happy new year 😊

[@jimsteele9559]

@@jimmarcinko3323 Ha! What a crock! Yappy Hew Near ! To you.