Beyond the Looks - The 2009 Dodge Avenger

[@Rmehki]

My grandpa has a 2008 R/T that he bought new, it currently is sitting at 290,000 miles. Original engine and transmission.

[@beccamarie783]

Mine is sitting at 242,074 as I wrote this comment with the original engine and transmission. Mine is the 2008 SE though and has the 2.4 engine.

[@leetlelee7502]

Im considering buying one that has 280000 miles and i was nervous because it sounds like im about to buy a car thats gonna die soon

[@beccamarie783]

I have the 2008 SE (not SX) with 242,000+ on it with the original engine and transmission and I named it Roger. Definitely a good car that can take a beating.

[@BugSmasher9]

Hey Chris, the company I worked for at the time, rented me a car, and it happened to be an Avenger. I rather liked it, I fit in it comfortably, and it ran well. Brings back memories, thanks for your review.

[@hullinger]

Thanks for sharing! These Avengers aren't terrible especially for the money a used one will buy today.

[@jun1977i]

Got my for 9 years no problem with my, still running like new my is 2.4 vvt

[@hullinger]

That's cool, thanks for sharing and and enjoy your Avenger.

[@w.a.l5202]

So happy I found your channel. Love hearing the stories behind all your different vehicles. Cheers from Halifax, Nova Scotia.

[@MPAutomotiveCrafts]

2008 2.4, still have it, super easy to work on, I like it a lot. Very affordable quality parts

[@Bobby-cm7vu]

Except for the battery

[@HyresSubaruprojects]

@@Bobby-cm7vu facts battery is a pain to get to it sucks gotta take the whole headlight out

[@FCT8306onTwoWheels]

2:07 from what I remember, Dodges and domestics had pretty good speakers. We used to have a 2000 Caravan and the speakers in the front doors were really good

[@CountryCarReviews]

Fct 8306 On Two Wheels my 01 grand Cherokee had an inifinity amp under the back seat. And every time get low by lil Jon would play it would literally vibrate the seats. From a factory amp

[@FCT8306onTwoWheels]

@@CountryCarReviews Cool man, I installed an amp under my driver seat, totally different car 01' CR-V.

[@mph5896]

That was a lot of car for $1550 2 years ago. Nice buy

[@hullinger]

Thanks man. I'm getting a whole lot of different view points on this car and especially at $1,550.

[@mph5896]

A car you can drive for a year, only changing the oil in it. Deal all day long in my book. Prob sell it for $2500 right now.

[@bulbhorn]

Great car for the money. Thank you.

[@Eliyourcarguy]

Watching this video brings back memories. My parents bought a new 2008 model Avenger. It was blue with a tan interior and it had alloy wheels. Smooth riding car! Didn't give them any issues in the couple years they owned it. I remember the built in refrigerated compartment! That was a pretty "cool" feature haha. Great video!

[@hullinger]

Thanks Eli. Appreciate you checking in!

[@jefferysmith3930]

Even an average car can delight on a daily basis. And 2 years of service for $60 a month if you spread the purchase price over the 2 years you’ve had it....amazing. Should make a few folks rethink a $400 - $500 mo. car note. Thanks for sharing.

[@hullinger]

Thanks for sharing and I like your prospective. This little Dodge isn't a Camry or Accord but for a fraction of the cost, she looks decent and still does a good job.

[@actiniumanarchy9237]

I have one of these with only 12k original miles on it, second owner, inherited from my grandfather, still smells like new car

[@dalton5160]

Dodge avenger was also manufactured in 1999. I currently own a 2000 model.

[@timfenrich5328]

Good job on the video 👍 gotta love Mopars plastics.....

[@hullinger]

You got that right!

[@beezertwelvewashingbeard8703]

The plastic interior in the 08-10 Avengers is Chevy truck level amount of bland plastic.

[@mds2465]

In regards to your transmission noise, I will be upfront with you about this. The transmissions are weak on those cars. I would recommend that you do a drain and refill on the transmission and see if that helps any. That’s really about all you can do and who knows it’ll probably help. The other thing to check is motor & transmission mounts for wear. Oftentimes when those go out you’ll hear or feel a clunking on shifts. As for your heating issue, you probably have a clogged up heater core that needs to be flushed out. It’s not that bad a job to do. I recommend flushing out the heater core and probably the cooling system as well. But if that’s all that’s wrong with it and everything else checks out okay and it still runs good, then it should be a very good dependable car.

[@jaydonparadis4240]

Most likely, water is getting in the trunk from the 3rd break light. You can take it out and put silicone around the light to keep the water out that's what I did and it worked for me

[@TheCopCar]

Impressive! You are good at showing all the positive and fun features of a car. Every time I watch one of your reviews I end up with a new appreciation for the vehicle you talk about. Only 4 more videos until you make it to May! Keep it up!

[@hullinger]

I appreciate that Alan. Thanks buddy.

[@tylerwilson7785]

Hop on a 2011 or newer model, completely redesigned interiors. Exterior is pretty much the same.

[@hullinger]

Thanks man and thanks for watching.

[@robertbrady9597]

hi to you an everyone on here tonight stay safe by your way

[@hullinger]

Hello to everyone in Danville, PA

[@deejay4866]

I still have my 08, creeping up to 300k, still runs smooth. Bought it in 2010, had about 28k then for 17g. Been on synthetic oil when I got it home. Have done some work, brakes of course, new struts and shocks all around, just changed out the clock spring, but other than that just normal maintenance its all its seen. Its an sxt, sun burst orange metallic, basically the same as you have there except mine has heated seats (live in Canada, kinda must have) and have a sun roof. Oh and if you get the water coming out of the trunk lid latch when you open the lid, the water gains access around the 3rd brake light (as in my case, as well the spoiler) there are 4 plugs one in each corner on the inside of the lid, remove them and it will allow the water to drain out and you won't get a shower every time after it rains or you wash the car (which I think you should have done before making the video)

[@dixonrenyin95ugo]

It's only on East Coast Classics channel you are privileged to have a first hand knowledge of different cars and make on a daily dose. Keep up the work Chris, that is why we are addicted to this platform.

[@hullinger]

Thanks bud and I appreciate that!

[@Ted_E_Bear]

Thanks for the ride !!

[@hullinger]

You bet and anytime! Stay safe!

[@thomastommy1192]

Great video thanks for sharing. Stay well & safe.

[@hullinger]

Thanks, you too!

[@pmr413]

$1550 is a darn good buy. You definitely got your monies worth from that one.

[@hullinger]

Thanks Pat and yeah, I agree. Some folks balk that I paid that much but really, it's a decent car that does everything it's supposed to do and for not a whole lot of cash.

[@pmr413]

@@hullinger Plus it sounds like your son learned a valuable lesson that will help serve him later in life.

[@UziBlu2023]

@@hullinger I just signed at a buy here pay here for 10k how’d you find it so cheap where should I go to buy used cars I feel like I got scammed now hearing what you paid

[@gregnezz]

I am planning on looking at one tomorrow. I love the tacky retro style of the interior! 2009 2L diesel manual SXT 75k miles

[@moonbeamskies3346]

Great video! The part about your son gravitating toward it at the auction made my day. My Avenger is a base SE model, and it is bare bones unlike this one.

[@CountryCarReviews]

@eastcoastclassics you can get the mygig infortainment system and install it and you can park it and watch dvds or download music into its hard drive. I had it in my 08 exactly like. Yours when I first bought it. Went for a Cadillac SRX and came back with that how I don’t know to this very day that was January 08. You can upgrade to the RT 18in rims and leather RT seats easily it will look 10x better. The problem I had with mine was the transmission it went those. Thankfully Chrysler covered those.

[@jimmycolon8563]

Needed this review. Really insightful. Thanks!

[@johnnysmile01]

It's a nice car thanks for share

[@hullinger]

Thanks for watching

[@aviswilliams7872]

Yep still got mines and it's 2012

[@beezertwelvewashingbeard8703]

When they updated these in 2011, the interior looked much nicer and less plasticky. They got the LED tail lights too.

[@brandonvandonkervoort9916]

Still have my orange 08 RT Awd model

[@thelegendarywasdgamer9724]

i love this car. making it cool is fun

[@drewp_opm]

silicone around the outside brake lights on the trunk it stops the water from getting in

[@hullinger]

Wow, great tip and thanks for sharing that!

[@drewp_opm]

yeah your welcome. i did it almost 3 years ago now and i havent had water drip in the trunk since

[@97warlock]

I want one & its been a month long obsession to get one Under 140k miles & clean. - after watching this I know to simply ........avoid the 2.4

[@40streetblack79]

Wise Choice ----- Go with the V-6 sxt plus? Dodge avenger

[@robmoseley7768]

I have a 2013 with the 3.6. Good car!

[@thechriscollection9983]

Reminds me sorta of our '08 Dodge Grand Caravan SE.

[@hullinger]

Spot on, man. That grill and headlight design must have come from the minivan!

[@thechriscollection9983]

@@hullinger yes, even the instrument cluster, and in general interior parts and plastics. Thanks for your reply I really enjoy your in depth videos. Coming from Ontario, Canada!

[@jenniferbarney7952]

Wow! You got a great deal, I paid 13,000 for mine in 2012 o a used 2011 with 30K miles on it..I love mine!

[@hullinger]

Oh wow! Your Avenger is nearly brand new at on 30K miles, please doesn't it have the newer interior too? Nice!

[@jenniferbarney7952]

@@hullinger Hi, yes it has black interior and was in new condition at the time I purchased it...also has blue lights that surround the cup holders..Sweet! I still like you purchase price..I want to check out those auctions myself! Thanks for your video!

[@qvhonyburner]

Buying a 2008 avenger tomorrow, my first car

[@Trance88]

From an asthetics standpoint, Chrysler/FCA products for the last 25 years are amazing in my opinion. I just wish their build quality and reputation could match their looks.

[@Crispychicken4u]

Choices 🤔- 2011-14 dodge avenger 3.6 , Chrysler 200s or dodge dart 1.4 manual. For fun factor . Or something else in price range?

[@ERICWHITESIDENOGARGE]

I remember owning my 06 police Charger, and not liking the height of the windows. You couldn't hang your arms out comfortable lol.

[@hullinger]

Yup, so true. This Avenger is the same way and it's not cool.

[@coiledsteel8344]

Eric Whiteside - Wrong car.

[@ERICWHITESIDENOGARGE]

@@coiledsteel8344 same door design!

[@kevinsview93]

I think you mean the 3.5L for the R/T. I own an 08 R/T.

[@umpireoba]

Was this bc of my suggestion lol

[@hullinger]

This Avenger vid is all your fault man.

[@umpireoba]

East Coast Classics haha 😂

[@klaudihater5276]

Like from Slovakia.

[@hullinger]

Thank you from Chris in Wilmington, Delaware in the USA.

[@jasoncooper3116]

I had a Hyundai Elantra with a clogged heater core. All I did to unclog it was remove the hoses from it, clamp on a piece of hose about a foot long with an air chuck on the other end, and plug an air hose up for a split second. It blew a bunch of crud out. After that all o had to do was flush it out with water and hook the hoses back up. I hope this helps. It only took about 15 minutes.

[@hullinger]

Thanks for sharing. I'll give it a try.

[@myspinup8782]

The Avenger is a cool practical car to pick up cheap.

[@Buick_GSX]

The only car RCR reviewed that had such a so brash and crude review that they deleted the entire video from their channel.

[@hullinger]

Yeah, I recall watching it. I think it was done a few years ago and I remember part of the review was filmed in his bathroom. I'm guessing there was some symbolism with that.

[@Buick_GSX]

East Coast Classics it’s just that it was so vulgar and disgusting, way more over the top than even his other “worst” videos. He deleted it so people wouldn’t get tainted by it when he started making this a profession

[@hullinger]

I met with the guys from RCR's and they were interested in doing a video on the Greenbrier. We just couldn't work out a time and place. Too bad since I think it would have been fun.

[@coiledsteel8344]

Buick GSX - TRUTH!

[@u2loucas571]

Like from France 👍

[@hullinger]

Thanks for the visit

[@rickowens8127]

This man is hilarious 😂😂

[@ChevyBM]

In Europe these were also sold with 2.0liter diesels. These are okay cars and now days a lot bang for the bucks!

[@hullinger]

Interesting about the diesel engine for Europe. And so true about a lot of car for the money today.

[@ChevyBM]

@@hullinger Insane value for money! I don't think they ever sold them in North America, the 2.0diesel was a motor that they borrowed from VW. Chrysler and dodge even had a 3.0l V6 Mercedes diesel in the Chrysler 300C over here. The gas prices are insane here folks that drive much usually go for diesels. But I love my fullsize rwd V8 cars no matter of how high the prices go :)

[@brianbeswick3646]

Hi Kris I had a 1997 Chrysler Intrepid (or I mean Dodge down in the states) and had the same heat problem. You might want to put in a new thermostat that worked for me and I had heat again.

[@sccarguy8242]

Great deal, you really can’t complain about a car you can drive for free for two years because it sure has not deprecated from What you paid. As for the heat, you need to back flush the heater core. It would make a good video. Basically you pinch off (so you loose the least amount of coolest) the lines going to the heater core, and remove them. Put a clean heater hose on the core and run a garden hose through it both ways. This will clean it out and your heat will be hot again !

[@Quadrille763]

I had a 2007 Jeep Grand Cherokee all cheap plastic inside it was a loading model too

[@urraken1]

5 engines. 2.0 SXT 156 KM manual gear box or 2.0 diesel 140 KM (Europe version). I have the first one.Full versions.

[@isobutyl]

You’re a great dad

[@SF.Automotive]

Hey East Coast Classics! Just to correct you, 2008-2010 3.5 V6, after 2011 they had the powerful 3.6!!!

[@hullinger]

Thanks man. Appreciate the correction and thanks for watching.

[@SF.Automotive]

@@hullinger no problem! Always a pleasure watching your videos! :)

[@geistdylan]

Lol I've been calling it the Mini Charger since it was originally released

[@ChrisfromGeorgia]

It's a shame that cars like these are almost all fwd. I heard you say there was an awd model. It would be cool to have one with manual and rwd. Anyways, nice find for the money!

[@jasoncarpp7742]

Nice looking car. I've heard of the Dodge Avenger. It's a shame that it wasn't *called* the Charger. I find its front end more attractive than that of the Charger. This looks like a car I would've preferred over the Dart Limited I drove for a couple of years. Since I never drove an Avenger, I don't know how much room there is. But there looks like there could be plenty of room between my head and the ceiling of the car. The Dart had a centre console with a slide forward and aft feature that made for a comfortable armrest, which I appreciated.

[@hullinger]

Thanks Jason for the comment and sharing that. Always appreciate when you stop by!

[@jasoncarpp7742]

You're welcome. My Dart Ltd. was reliable in some areas, and a let-down in other areas. It had an awesome engine. Other than the usual oil changes and maintenance, it never let me down It had a Garmin nav. computer that helped in looking for places I rarely travel. Its seats themselves were comfortable. The let-down was the driver's side door that wouldn't unlock when you grab the door handle, and the trunk lid that wouldn't remain closed when you closed it. It also had no headroom whatsoever. That's probably due to the sunroof that came with the car. Other than that, it never left me stranded by the side of Hiwy 16 between Tacoma and Silverdale (Washington state).

[@regulardude1583]

I paid 7,000$ for mine and I’m happy with it rn

[@alejandror2821]

Nice bro

[@97warlock]

so i will avoid the SX unless its either low miles or low price.

[@jacobyo99]

There were not 2 generations. There was a simple mid-cycle refresh

[@buddyrevell6369]

Ahh the Cerberus capital hard plastic Chrysler years. Amazing they survived. Despite all that, for 1550 I'd buy it for a 3rd vehicle.

[@yoursignalisbuster]

You have to pull the wheel to change the battery because Chrysler.

[@aviswilliams7872]

And the bumper

[@Bobby-cm7vu]

Got a 2014 with the 2.4l at 51k miles. Nice car to be honest.

[@hullinger]

I gotta agree with you. Those Avengers are pretty good cars and I'm happy with mine.

[@mikeatv]

you cant beat that price for what you get..... a camry would be 3 times as much $

[@hullinger]

So true about this Avenger and costing less then the others. To me, that's what makes it relevant.

[@hookyjo72]

I always liked the way they looked but that's where it ended, to many Pt cruiser similarities

[@hullinger]

I know and feel the same. It's not my favorite but it does the job.

[@jameshumphrey3425]

That’s my first car lol. Got mine for $2400 with 125k miles. It’s not bad but definitely slow.

[@GlamStacheessnostalgialounge]

I haven't been in that many modern cars but I know exactly what you mean when you described the plastic, I immediately got grim flashbacks. Why people put up with that in cars is beyond me.

[@hullinger]

Right on man, and thanks for watching!

[@alphadiallo7787]

The RT has the 3.5 not the 3.7

[@LGaragem]

My wife has TRICEPS now!

[@kevink.2719]

Great video another nice car.

[@hullinger]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@ddk80]

This car had the most uncomfortable rear seats due to the position of the headrests.

[@hullinger]

Thanks man for watching and for the comment.

[@dcatullo]

These are known for bad blend door actuators check it for your heat issue

[@hullinger]

Thanks man. Appreciate the tip and thanks for watching.

[@AaronDotZone]

Thermostat stuck open?

[@hullinger]

The thermostat being stuck is my first hunch. It's buried on the side of the engine and it's a couple hours to get to then reassemble. So for now, I'm just living with the sporadic heat.

[@jasona9231]

@@hullinger I have a 2011 Avenger Mainstreet, 3.6L Pentastar, love it! A couple of years ago I started having heat problems. I flushed the heater core itself, then the entire coolant system, but what I really think the problem turned out to be was the thermostat. I replaced that during the flushing process, not too hard, one screw at the bottom sorta tricky. Before changing that, my temp gauge would only climb up to about the 25% mark. Afterwards though, it reaches just under 50%. Also, mine has climate control, which tends to force all airflow to the floor vents when the heat is turned all the way up. The air was mostly cold from down there, but when I controlled the heat manually (not in AUTO) and forced the heat out the dash vents, I actually got pretty good heat. Just wanted to share that in case it might benefit you. Great video, nice work!

[@MyNameIsNotNick]

I can feel the Fiat soul in it...

[@pinsandneedles7248]

Nikolay Chernuha pre fiat

[@MyNameIsNotNick]

@@pinsandneedles7248 I wander how the new models are then... Saw some Dodges with Fiat badge in Italy - looks funny

[@hullinger]

What you're really feeling is your soul being pulled from you.

[@MyNameIsNotNick]

@@hullinger oh, you are so offensive... Looks like something is missing in your life.

[@OnkelPHMagee]

Good Plan B instead of the garage.

[@hullinger]

Thanks man for following along!

[@emeyer6963]

Weird Beard's channel has 1 that he just replaced headliner on and is putting it up for sale for $3250 with 195000 miles on it.

[@hullinger]

Wow man, I'll check out his channel. I also saw Randy at Auto Auction Rebuilds finished an Avenger last week and it came out looking stunning.

[@coiledsteel8344]

E Meyer - Some will buy anything.

[@emeyer6963]

@@hullinger Same car Chris.Weird Beard put the final touches on it.Stay well my friend

[@mph5896]

Flush the heater core with a gaaaaaaden hose. Disconnect inlet and outlet and hook a hose up to one of the sides.

[@hullinger]

Thanks again. I'll give it a try tomorrow.

[@mduff94]

honestly i can't say i hate these things, everyone i've known that has one has had few complaints; also these had the 3.6 Pentastar, not the 3.7 found in the Liberty

[@hullinger]

Yeah, I had low expectations for this car for really, for $1550 it isn't terrible.

[@SF.Automotive]

Nope before 2011 3.5 and after 2011 3.6

[@coiledsteel8344]

Michael Duffek - Amazing it lasted, but there's exceptions.

[@blautens]

Technically qualifies as a car, yes.

[@hullinger]

Hahaha, yeah, you're right.

[@moonbeamskies3346]

It's the best car!

[@richardkafka5625]

What? No garage tour? lol

[@hullinger]

I tried. I really did. Mother Nature didn't want to cooperate. Hopefully tomorrow.

[@richardkafka5625]

@@hullinger Just kidding. Enjoyed the Avenger content.

[@adammiller8133]

Ah yes mid 2000s Mopar. Not their best, but they get the job done I suppose. They’ve got better offerings now.

[@hullinger]

So true man!

[@101starting]

Got the same for my son even the color lol lasted 2 years. was the greatest he says

[@hullinger]

Yeah, my guy says the same thing. He LOVES his Avenger. Really though, it isn't a terrible car. It's just pedestrian to me.

[@coiledsteel8344]

East Coast Classics WTF?

[@klaudihater5276]

Give a subscription. I'm looking forward to the next video.

[@hullinger]

Thanks for the sub!

[@juniewebb9508]

I have this car

[@umpireoba]

All yours cars gas tanks are always full!!

[@hullinger]

This stay-at-home thing is keeping those gas tanks full. I haven't gassed up in weeks. Of course, having 8 cars, ahhhhhh, well, forget that.

[@umpireoba]

East Coast Classics that’s true!! I like keeping my tank full also just out of habit

[@mph5896]

@@hullinger Nice, I can't keep mine full right now. Working double, driving 80 miles round trip in the Impala "Limited" back and forth to work. After owning one for a few months, they are MUCH improved over the 2011 and down. The 3.6l makes these cars actually quite quick.

[@SuperSportfan1]

🤮these cars were crap , we had a few in our fleet . Spent most of time at the shop . Love the caprice !!

[@hullinger]

I hear ya. I keep waiting for something bad to happen with the car but she just keeps chugging along.

[@SuperSportfan1]

East Coast Classics heck yeah keep her chugging and cheap maintenance. Thanks for making great informative videos. I used to buy the old 9c1 caprices in early 2000s , I bought many crappy 4.3 v8s thinking they were 5.7 Lt1s lol. Your helping them next gen of auction buyers !! Keep up the great work

[@coiledsteel8344]

SuperSportfan1 - At last some truth.

[@mph5896]

@@SuperSportfan1 HA, my brother made that mistake once. The 4.3l v8 and 5.7 looked identical. 5.7 had dual exhaust. Vin 8th digit was P for power in 5.7l. W for weak in the 4.3l

[@mexicanspec]

@@mph5896 The 4.3L caprices had the badge on the front of the fender that told you what engine was there. Did they take them off of the police cars?

[@paulcoinc]

That and your new mower same power 😁 Sorry had to take a jab it's a Dodge after all.

[@hullinger]

Hahaha, yeah, about the same and about the same driving experience too.

[@Eraserhead1]

They took the avenger from a sprts type car to a economy car

[@hullinger]

Exactly right! Hit the nail on the head!

[@PanzerPlatform]

Yuck!

[@hullinger]

Yeah, this Avenger is not my style or my taste but it's pretty decent

[@PanzerPlatform]

@@hullinger Oh no, the car is fine. I was expecting the garage tour. -Chuck

[@rogueranger7989]

Not a Fan of The Newer Chrysler Products; Was an Honorable Mention vs FORD & Chevy... Thanks For Sharing and Keeping The Channel Diverse. Ready For The Next Selection.. 😎

[@hullinger]

Thanks for watching! Mopar has always been third place in a three dog race.

[@dogsandcars202]

An evenger? Really? Smh

[@carl5219]

Learn how to spell -_-

[@dogsandcars202]

Carl wawawawa

[@carl5219]

@@dogsandcars202 K 🙄

[@on-site4094]

Great Chrysler durability and plastic reliability LOL it’s not a Toyota and doesn’t holds its value like a Toyota 👍

[@hullinger]

Thanks man for watching!

[@alvaroacosta6993]

first coment

[@hullinger]

Thanks for watching!

[@VincentVader]

It's a Dodge. Disappointing is their middle name.

[@SF.Automotive]

No need to generalize, the new Dodges are fantastic cars. I rented a few Chargers and Durangos at my brother enterprise and I love them!

[@meowritz]

The only good Avenger is the one with 2.0 TDI VW Engine, inside its extremely cheap and typical Fiat/Dodge crap

[@meowritz]

@Jonathan A Pretty sure that engine is the most reliable of them all, i dont know about gearboxes, most avengers are manual here

[@hullinger]

I wish we in the US had gotten diesel versions and especially manual transmissions.

[@meowritz]

@@hullinger I feel like alot of older american cars get bottlenecked by either slow or just bad automatic transmissions!

[@meowritz]

@Jonathan A Yeah correction its just stereotypical Dodge quality, but guess the price at the time explained it all

[@kevinbarry71]

These cars were sold new to people who knew nothing about cars and cared even less. They also had bad judgment and never read consumer reports or did a Google search

[@moonbeamskies3346]

Not so. I read all the reviews and bought one anyway. The negative reviews confirmed for me that the writers are fools.

[@Terminxman]

Chrysler has always been bad, but I don't know if anything is worse than 2000s chrysler.

[@hullinger]

I gotta think the 2000's era Sebring might just be the worst of the worst.

[@edge032]

Bought an 09 SXT 2.7L brand new. Worst vehicle I’ve ever owned. Money pit from the beginning. You’re right that 2.7L inexplicably paired with a 4 speed transmission is gutless...I’d call it anemic. Chrysler is junk and I’ll never own another. Been a Toyota owner since I unloaded the Avenger and haven’t regretted it.