'Mobile Coffins': The Unlikely Solution To The Army’s 'Death Trap' | INTEL

[@BFBSCreative]

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[@jaccon6106]

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[@harshithsadhana7475]

why they are called as snatch land rover?

[@Andyspeeder7]

@@harshithsadhana7475 you drive in fast snatch the Ira and away

[@harshithsadhana7475]

@@Andyspeeder7 we do similar like snatch landrover. They are Suzuki gypsy aka the Jimny

[@olliephelan]

@@Andyspeeder7 often with children given free rides to protect from ambush. They didnt even have protection from petrol bombs. The back doors were left open (no protection) because a single round could jam the door shut and they needed crow bars to get them open.

[@golden.lights.twinkle2329]

The Defence Department people who said the Land-Rover was suitable, should have been shipped off to Irag and made to travel in the Land Rovers for a few months.

[@bobbylockes]

The senior staff were right behind the honest tommy. "4000 miles behind them to be exact".

[@jonathanwalker8730]

Just thinking the same thing.

[@heyziel]

They wouldn't have traveled for too long

[@kippamip]

The Lord there talking a load of cod. There were plenty of alternatives to look at. The MOD and the government didn't want to spend the money. Us soldiers in the field were expendible. I served on Telic 3 and 8. We didn't even have armoured land rovers for the first half of Telic 3, and we couldn't use our challengers as they were too "aggressive" and not good in the tight urban areas. I couldn't tell you the anxiety we all felt on Telic 8 in particular before going out on patrol in those crap death traps. We all hid it well, but deep down we were all feeling it. It's all good for these Lords and politician's on there big fat wages and enjoying a very fruitful career, whilst we are bearing the scars deep down and struggling in civilian lives on your average Jo's wages. If anything I feel the MOD and the government should be compensating all of us that had to go through the misery of those tour's and the mental hardship we had to endure with inadequate kit from day 1.

[@tomg5187]

You should definitely be compensated. What you were put through was beyond wrong. It doesn’t bear thinking about for me that these pencil pusher politicians send good brave men such as yourself out there in equipment fit for a landfill! Thank you for your service, sir. I hope you are doing well. Some of us don’t forget the sacrifices that have been made by our soldiers. If you or anybody else seeing this would ever like a chat, I offer therapy services and will be happy to oblige FOC. ☺️

[@kevinbaird7277]

I agree with you, politicians and senior officers worrying about how an armored truck would look to the locals, who gives a fuck about that, get the right truck to the front line asap, this line was of course a lot of shit, the wankers didn't want to coffee up for the cost of an off the shelf vehicle of which there was plenty available, running about London in their bulletproof Jag's sipping Grand cru Chablis whilst devouring Lobster thermidor by the bucket load, they all have blood of men/women on their hands, but of course this matters not a snot to them, Britain has a long history of mass slaughter of it's forces due to naive policies of the champagne crowd.

[@Tuberuser187]

It's not like they didn't know, or arguments about the size of the vehicle. French forces had the Snatch Landrover sized VBL with MRAP Hull and other features to make it more survivable but also smaller in profile, less "aggressive". I'm so sorry the country let you and our other lads down.

[@slammerf16]

Is it cynical to wonder whether Challys were "too agressive" or just "too expensive to lose"?

[@thorwilkinson2565]

The US troops went through the same thing with the Hummer.

[@eleveneleven572]

120 lives lost due to the indescribable incompetence of the MOD and senior military officers.

[@wezab]

So true, and probably entitled aristocrats who don't understand the situation on the ground, were no where close to the violence and are looking at the cost of changing the vehicle. Just like in 1990 and the first Iraq war where Tornadoes were used in ground attack roles designed for a European theatre. The command structure understood not changing tactics would cost lives but they were motivated by policy and politics until their arses were kicked with the video of captured pilots.

[@vanpallandt5799]

@@wezab whilst there were obviously big issues with the vehicles, going down the entitled aristocrats argument is too simple. Anyone who was a senior officer would have been a junior officer and likely have seen active service in Ulster etc. Its a fair comment that lessons from Ulster were not necessarily applicable as said to Iraq but the attempt to imply another version of WW1 Chateau Generals is a bit silly

[@MrAndywills]

Civil servants more concerned about getting their ergonomically designed office chairs to save their backs than save lives on the ground.

[@simont1299]

Worked with a guy who would visible shake and start to stress when mentioning his time in Afgan driving snatch Land Rovers.

[@paulkeogh3518]

As usual nobody was held to account for the failures. Some things never change.

[@v4skunk739]

Look at what happened with the Warrior upgrade programme and the Ajax family of IFV. Our government is a joke and probably money laundering on these types of projects.

[@piendawg]

Australia was operating a V shaped hull vehicle called a Bushmaster 8 years earlier than this vehicle. The v hull was filled with water to absorb the blast and as the blast was deflected outwards the vehicle side compartments were designed to break off similar to crumple zones on vehicles. The result was 0 fatalities from IED's

[@Key_highway]

They’ve taken the water tank out of the PMVs as they’ve found that due to water being no compressible it actually enhances shock effect inside the vehicles, great vehicle though

[@maxcullen3427]

But u have the UTE Culture there 🇦🇺 and common sense 👏🏻

[@piendawg]

@@Key_highway oh that's a bit of new info mate thanks for the update :)

[@PBMS123]

@@piendawg Since the Bushmasters use in Afghanistan I think 2006, not a single Australian soldier has died inside a bushmaster from a mine or ied. They were really ahead of their time. Basically the first ISAF/Coalition troops to use them. While the Americans were using HUMVEES, which whilst a little better armoured than the Land Rover, were still not Mine Resistant, and there are videos over the internet showing what IED can do to a HUMVEE, throwing them, and everyone inside (ususally tossing the gunner out too)at least 6ft or more in the air. The worst I saw from an absolutely massive IED, probably meant for a tank, threw an Iraqi Army HUMVEE easily 20m into the air.

[@justwayne4785]

Funny how a lawsuit speeds things up isn’t it :(

[@lewisdean22]

Only way this government get things done.

[@zaynevanday142]

@@lewisdean22 always has always will

[@awheezle]

My auntie and uncle were involved in that lawsuit. They were just being greedy c##ts.

[@myparceltape1169]

@@awheezle Good on them.

[@un-nomad]

Very interesting article, however, as far as I know the V-hull (blast dissipation) was an innovation of the Olifant and Reumech companies in South Africa, They should get credit for this.

[@mwanikimwaniki6801]

Facts. Rhodesia and SA were the first to use this design in the 70s or 80s... And they were very successful.

[@ca9968]

As true as this is, there is NO way the Brits will admit that the old S.A government did anything of worth...keep in mind that the reason S.A is in the mess it`s now in is the Brits fault...they wanted the cANCer in charge as they are far easier to control through basic greed than the last administration were...

[@dogsnads5634]

V-Hulls pre-date that by a long while, German prototypes in WW2 and British mine protected trucks in the Yemen in the early/Mid 60's. www.keymilitary.com/article/blast-past And modern, MRAP's owe little to SA work. The larger US MRAP's in particular may look like some SA gear but are far more advanced and had zero SA involvement (mainly UK and US for Force Protection).

[@vanpallandt5799]

@@ca9968 Blame the Brits..as below it was inevitable unless you think in terms of white people should stick together bollocks. Are you South African or American btw

[@ca9968]

@@vanpallandt5799 Born in the U.K, raised in Johannesburg...

[@johncr1354]

Surprised that in the video there is no mention of the Pinzgauer Vector. Bought by the MOD as a Protected Patrol Vehicle to supplement the Snatch but which proved to be even more deadly than the Snatch. The Vector was the vehicle that was named the "Coffin on Wheels".

[@blueeyeswhitedragon9839]

Ian Sadler's description of the black pit of despair in our hearts when we lose a child and the fear of falling into that pit, is a very real description of that special grief. He was speaking from his soul when describing his feelings when his boy, Jack, died in Iraq.

[@johnbwags]

I was struck by that description as well. It was so sincere, descriptive and communicative. It was sadly very beautiful. God bless him and his son.

[@mrpusser0348]

Was in a snatch land rover for half of Op Herrick 5 (06/07) and now ....what the hell were they thinking. So glad IEDs were not widespread at that time

[@mrpusser0348]

luke everitt it was a very disjointed tour ...later ones were a bit more intense 😟

[@MrManning95]

Unbelievable I’ve come across this as I’m preparing to join myself, then I hear my cousin name (Darryl Gardiner) sent shiver down my spine!

[@nathankaye1577]

I hope you do join. I'm 25 years into my Military Career. Started at the bottom and worked my way up to be a Military Police Officer. Mainly I work with London Metropolitan Police in an office now as my Kosovo, Iraq and Afghanistan days are truly over. I'm now 45 and all my adult life was in the Military. Best career move you can make. Train all over the world with good pay. Good Luck!

[@captainhindsight8779]

Cprl Adder MP you Sob now then? Hadn’t heard of a Cpl position with the met, i assume its sneaky beaky?

[@nathankaye1577]

@@captainhindsight8779 No it's not sneaky. I work with the Met Police for The Commonwealth Countries. I'm was an Officer in the British Army and joined Special Police Force which is totally different from the British Army. So I have a rank of Corpral but I'm an Officer for the Commonwealth. Best way to describe it

[@johnrambo99999]

Exhaust civilian options first. The military is not the fighting force it was. Led by inept, self serving officers who only care about their careers. No wonder the "officer" in the first post recommends joining.

[@johnrambo99999]

@@nathankaye1577 so do you hold the Queens commission?

[@luxr3148]

Rolled in these in 2005 Iraq during joint ops. I’ll take a bushmaster or Lav any day, absolutely terrifying and Samawah wasn’t even that dangerous for Aussie soldiers in 05.

[@armandrodriguez8501]

The term "less aggressive posture" should never be used in warfare.

[@happywombat]

The point of it is to not scare the locals, Its hard to get the locals to aide you if you stride into their town with tanks looking like your ready to wipe the place off the face of map. Im clearly overexaggerating but you get the point.

[@chesterbobs]

Sun Tzu wants a word...

[@mrgummage]

Except we were not at war with the civilian population, we were a peacekeeping force (especially in the cities).

[@Igotcha06]

Yes now In this war “Fear of aggression” bullshit

[@Hriuke]

Surprised the Analogy of the Spitfire coming from a racing team wasn't brought up!

[@chrismoreman2289]

This is a brilliant and informative video. Thank you.

[@anotherrandom5476]

if you love propaganda and fair tales, yea nice video.

[@danpeterson5054]

Incredibly well produced video with really great content. I learned a lot, and I look forward to more like this!

[@BFBSCreative]

Glad you enjoyed it! We are hoping to do more of this tech based content in the future so make sure you keep checking back. In the meantime make sure you check of the rest of the series.

[@msd1378]

His video is damn amazing , how the hell is this man not getting views and subs ?? I feel like watching some Nat Geo pr Discovery Channel documentary

[@abbarhazes7029]

This is a reupload and this a new channel he had one before

[@truthseeker8483]

Commiserations to Jack's father and all those that lost loved ones in Iraq and Afghanistan

[@TrumpAndKamila]

I worked in Kandahar and chatted a lot with the brits and when they would say they were heading out on patrol in the snatch it made me feel sick. RIP bros and c u in Valhalla

[@rgwholt]

The British Army had not been using Land Rovers since the Second World War . They first started to use them in 1948

[@anotherrandom5476]

Politicians interferring in MOD has been the usual from the beginning and this video pretends otherwise. Then to protend that military could not of done it without some help of racing industry is complete rubbish.

[@isaacboateng9782]

i provided med cover from kandahar to bastion when the first mastiffs arrived. very comfortable, agile and very safe it has saved a lot of lives

[@EclecticTastes]

looks like a South Africal Buffel to me. Certainly not "revolutionary breakthrough technology", but rather old technology that the brits weren't aware of because of the NIH syndrome.

[@matismf]

The UK military "leadership" has not cared about their troops since AT LEAST Gallipoli!!!

[@FyodorUshakovSuka]

Nor Politicians. The war was baced a USA:s lies about chemical weapons which they are still looking. UN said that there are no chemical weapons in Iraq but Minister Blair wanted to support USA as a good dog should. British politicians killed those soldiers for a lie. Rest in peace. We still pay the price of this war. It's Blairs legacy.

[@myparceltape1169]

Did Wellesley care for his troops?

[@sharonrigs7999]

Read what Wellington though of his rank and file

[@myparceltape1169]

@@sharonrigs7999 Are you thinking about him being frightened of them, by any chance?

[@sharonrigs7999]

@@myparceltape1169 More about how he thought they were the dregs of humanity

[@thetreblerebel]

My heart breaks for those who lost loved ones to the IEDS of Iraq and Afghanistan. My generations Vietnam, our wasted youth for political gain or righteous cause. Scarred another generation of veterans that just did what was asked upon them. Soldiers young and gone forever...

[@thetreblerebel]

The US had the same problems with our HMMWV.

[@louisbeerreviews8964]

True

[@FFEMTB08]

I remember hearing of the boys making their own homemade style body armor to upfit the vehicles... I was just a kid then and knew that was fucked up.

[@fusilier]

Visited a few US camps in 2006. The Yanks really liked our Snatch when comparing it to their humvees. We soon put them straight.

[@WesternAustraliaNowAndThen]

Stick politician's sons out in Land Rovers in combat and see how fast things change...

[@tomg5187]

I spit on the senior military officials and politicians that made these poor lads go out on patrol in these vehicles fit for landfills. I’d say these pencil pushing, MOD desk jockey politicians should be ashamed of themselves, but they are entitled narcissistic psychopaths, so they wouldn’t know the meaning of the word. They don’t care about their ‘subjects’, nor our soldiers. RIP and thank you to all whom served. Some of us haven’t forgotten the sacrifices you made.❤️

[@nickwillett7905]

You never mentioned the jackal which was before the foxhound and a good bit of kit 👍

[@sharonrigs7999]

The RG31 was an excellent V hull vehicle. It saved a lot of lives

[@garycumningham169]

couple of things the landy did not go into production untill 1948 and the first landy you showed was a macralon landdy not a snatch

[@goth_dude6874]

I drove the APV in NI i kind of accepted that if we were hit by a landmine it was game over no defence

[@JMAN-pg4tg]

This has got to be one of the most well produced videos I’ve seen in a long time. You have earned my sub

[@anotherrandom5476]

This has got to be purest propaganda video i have seen in a couple of months. 🤮

[@guerrilla5002]

1:22 Not disbursed but disbanded, the iraqi army should have been kept in place as a police force.

[@Mr2483arm]

In 2008 we were calling vectors coffins on wheels in Afghan

[@whateverjones5473]

The US has done the same with the V hull, but I was wondering--if it is the tires setting off the explosives, the blast comes against a V hull at a 90 degree angle, exactly what they want to avoid.

[@dormie200]

I do not know why it is but, as a race, we seem unable to learn from history. Way back in the 1970s landrovers were quickly mine-proofed in theatre by the Rhodesian forces - full harnesses for the crew, a roll bar that was substantial enough for the vehicle to drop on without collapsing and AN ADD-ON V SHAPED HULL underneath. Now I am not saying the originals would have coped with 2000s IED explosives but someone should have at least thought about it.

[@shotsfiredandmissed9068]

from what I know, the name land rover doesn't really scream reliability

[@sambetts7958]

Its not reliable but it’s easy to fix

[@danielmccrory3532]

Question is what do you know People who know about land rovers and take proper care can have them last ages with out any of the major problems occurring

[@cecilwilson5442]

Had them in different forms for the last 30 years never left me at the side of the road,, video was about it's vulnerability in being attacked,, not its reliability,,

[@constructioneerful]

Does it seem like the decision that suggested the existing Landover provided 'the best mobility for difficult terrain' and that regarded the RG31 as an unsuitable replacement.. sounds like the way public health England 'guidance' was changed over and over (during the onset of Covid) to reflect the availability of equipment rather than the welfare of medical staff?

[@TorianTammas]

I wonder who produced that report as it shows incompetence on every level. The Land Rover was never up to the task. How stupid can one be to consider Northern Ireland as any preparation for going into a country filled with military equipment and former soldiers.

[@fusilier]

@@TorianTammas NI was seen as comparable to the cities of Iraq. Also the experience of homemade bombs & ambush drills etc. Much of that experience was invaluable which is showed by the lack of experience of the US forces. However there were significant differences that were not expected. The incredibly fast evolution of the IED & the bomb makers skills kept us on a back foot. The influence of Iran in this has never been addressed.

[@dildeepsingh3926]

Maybe freeze Tony Blair's assets and use that money for helping out the military budget.

[@pauldyck2405]

Similar problem with the Canadian G Wagon in Afghanistan

[@maxcullen3427]

Amazing job F1 boys helping the troops 🇬🇧 bless jack and all that died lest we forget dad seems like top bloke

[@Fede_uyz]

Always remenber that when a country is defeated and insurgency arises, the country's remaining military doesnt dissapear, they just become guerillas. Their training, their knowledge, now taught to hundreds of thousands

[@wanemergency3591]

That's a lovely video. But we had land-rovers since 1993 capable of withstanding a horizontal mortor attack. And a land mine. I know this because my stepfather was in the 1st land-rover to be blew up in Northern Ireland by a horizontal mortor in 1992. He wasn't out of hospital (9 months). And the armoured land-rover was in service

[@ULHIS]

The mighty land Rover. Valiantly she fought side by side with generations of soldiers. Alas, war changed faster and harder. She can field the battle no more.

[@simongee8928]

The amount of high mindedness that still exists in politics and the British military even today is unforgivable.

[@abraham2172]

The german Bundeswehr had exactly the same problem in Afghanistan, they very quickly switched to wheeled transport tanks like the Fuchs and the modern Boxer if possible. My greatest respect to all soldiers risking their lives in the war against terror.

[@cascadianrangers728]

To be very fair, this exact thing happened with earlier U.S hmmpwv or hummers in Iraq

[@jenpsakiscousin4589]

The Rhodesian army implemented homemade v hull vehicles in the 70s

[@stevetaylor8298]

Please the music is too loud I and many others can't hear the commentary when there is significant background music. Please turn it down I love the story but miss much.

[@Dan-zc7ut]

There’s a movie called Kajaki on Netflix about British soldiers and an encounter with ieds. Very sad

[@ironteacup2569]

I was just south of where that was but in 2011

[@johnbhoy8813]

11 - 15 secs isn't a Snatch Landrover... It's a Glover Webb APC.

[@MostlyPennyCat]

First 10 minutes. Interesting and informative, if well trodden. Last 6 minutes, absolutely incredible, so few people must know this and everybody should be told.

[@MostlyPennyCat]

So, foxhound consists of these bolt together modules: 1) V hull 2) power pack 3) drive train/transmission 4) Survival Cell

[@Smitherrrrs]

Some of the first information on the landrovers he says, Is just flat-out incorrect

[@yorkshire6458]

Yes thats Always been a Problem,saving at the wrong end of the stick. I remember Northern Ireland,Chubum as defence for soldiers and Landrovers that they were so loaded down the engine was screaming even at speed of 60 mph useless. There are good Transport vehicles but its Just the Money.

[@robslade2571]

The one thing that would always help is someone actually giving a damn about our troops. I was driver trade in the TA RLC and if you took 12 DROPS trucks out on a 24 hour driving exercise 1of the 12 would break down. Couple that with the fact these trucks were not very old and had low mileage due to the fact they belonged to aTA unit not regulars means they were so sub standard it was unreal. Our problems were nothing like as bad as the infantry's but even so getting out of that mess was the best thing I ever did.

[@happywombat]

US had the same issues with the Humvee, an iconic military vehicle synonymous with US forces but very quickly became outdated with the new threats of IED.

[@slimjimhero]

That and they simply weren't protective enough, having to be up-armored, which greatly diminished performance.

[@dovidell]

Time to shake a " few" stuffed shirts out of the MOD cupboard , and let some creative outsiders see things from a fresh perspective ( we did it with the D Day funnies after all )

[@myparceltape1169]

Funny indeed. You have me thinking of flail tanks proceeding a land-rover.

[@tootSweet66]

3:30 I wonder how that father feels (having lost his son) about the MOD and Government following the withdrawal from Iraq and Afghanistan seeing weapons caches and former allied bases being easily captured by Taliban.

[@nev7711]

I'm with you there. Blair/Bush and others, have blood on their hands What a waste of life. What for?

[@Go4Broke247]

Could have been prevented.

[@chubbymoth5810]

Good documentary, interesting topic.

[@cascadianrangers728]

Was with SAS commando diplomatic team in 2008, 2009 or something, on Euphreatise river. They had these, but they almost always borrowed our mraps when they went out. I thought they looked fun, probably 1/4 the weight of mrap and much more discreet looking: They were perfect, had really great AC, really wanted to drive one but they had the sense to keep me the hell away from them

[@ianfarquharson3772]

When you haven't got different companies in a bidding,then R & D races anything is possible. Especially when it's about lives and PR not multi million pounds contracts

[@homefront3162]

Why the hell are the lights facing the camera? duh

[@cecilwilson5442]

Good to hear that the troops had finally got the equipment they deserved,, but so late in the theatre,, lot's of the soldiers killed could have came home,,, least we forget,,,, ☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️

[@courageunitycompassi]

Jack’s father got to me. The black hole.

[@royphair9676]

Necessity is the mother of all invention

[@realhorrorshow8547]

Eventually.

[@kingneptune8937]

So sad that we've lost so many, my thoughts are with you all. The system is wrong and some say corrupted.

[@Carewolf]

So Brittain didn't have APVs or did they choose to not use them? You can have unarmored patrol vehicles, but ofcourse if you afraid of mines you wouldn't use them there.

[@plunder1956]

Senior MOD & Army personnel who failed to this process a decade before should be named and shamed here. If the MOD can't provide appropriate equipment, then don't send people into the conflict.

[@stefhanvandermeer475]

BOXER from the German Rheinmetall that is the right vehicle for such dangerous operations not a land rover... that is not a vehicle for modern warfare, that is indeed a coffin!

[@miketaylor5212]

the landrovers and humvees are just supposed to be utility vehicles not troop transports in the firstplace they haveapcs for that purpose.

[@andrewince8824]

Most suitable means cheap. That's how politicians work.

[@chopperaxon6171]

Except when they are giving themselves Pension benefits and wage increases at the start of every Parliament.

[@andrewince8824]

@@chopperaxon6171 it's always odd, that. No money for schools, the NHS, infrastructure etc but there's always a bit for their expenses, the £80k salary (£5200000 in total) and a little bonus every year.

[@markblundell9461]

MOD!!!! Typical bunch of civil servants. “Let’s sit on our hands, the slower things move, the longer we keep our jobs and departments.”

[@Ess666]

Land Rover's weren't used in WW2, 1948 was the first version

[@asdf3568]

"What should the military have done differently?" Perhaps not illegally invaded Iraq at all?

[@gaylebordeaux7632]

I agree, legal or illegal makes no difference to me, when it was stated we got to get them, I yelled “ noooo!”, it was and still is a bad move. I remember my time in Vietnam and it was horrible. I feel that it was just wrong, America was not attacked by Iraq, still think it was an inside job. But I agree, STAY ARMED.

[@asdf3568]

@@gaylebordeaux7632 Totally agree with the inside job part.

[@RetroGamerzzzMUSIC]

Its just difficult to listen a man who lost his son...

[@peterpeugeotsaab]

Sad story

[@realJohnolee]

Lost my leg you on those land rovers

[@The8224sm]

There's a phrase that governments use, it's known as the Headstone Imperative, when the bodies start building up they have to do something about it.

[@union310]

God bless Jack his father and the wider family. We can't bring Jack back but it I will never forget him.

[@tbwpiper189]

The Brit Government was worried that their military vehicles might look intimidating???

[@yorkshire6458]

Good Video,but the Talk about the military vehicles british has Always been a thorn in the cost of supplying a good armed vehicles for the british forces. Going back to Northern Ireland 1972 the Landrover was in use and it had no real protection at the start and then came first protection Special Glass fibre plating around the body und and as much use as Matchbox. This has been a on going Problem for years If it was Northern Ireland, Germany, Irak,etc. What really should is the Soldier or Gunnar and seaman should refuse to go on Tour.

[@Andyspeeder7]

Thought it wasthe jackal that replaced the Rover

[@59patrickw]

land rover in service from WW2 i don't think so 1948: The Land Rover is launched at the Amsterdam Motor Show on . Later known as the 'Series I', it has an 80in wheelbase, 50bhp 1595cc petrol engine from the Rover P3, pick-up body and priced £450. 1948: Rover introduced the first Land Rover Station Wagon in .

[@BlueBaron3x7]

Cannon Fodder, that's all they were. The man that lost his son, what did he think would happen? A friend's cousin went to Afghanistan or Iraq, I can't remember now. But I did say to my friend, I don't know why he so happy to go, they are not messing around out there. The smile was wiped off his face soon enough when his convoy came across an IED. He survived but those he was with never, he made the news.

Alvis Saracen & daimler ferret are much better options

[@Generik97]

How did nobody in the army come to the conclusion of just ordering for mine resistant land rovers?

[@thetreblerebel]

It was racing that saved british lives. Very British of a solution if you ask me, british racing is damn legendary

[@richardkennedy4186]

Pause the video at 2:29 this is typical of a “street” in Basra. They were very narrow, usually an open sewer running on one side that you did NOT want to end up in. What you can’t see on this video are the typical system of electricity distribution cables strung between every building on both sides of the road, rarely higher than 3m above the ground. Anything bigger than a LandRover just couldn’t get you into the bits of town you needed to go to. When the insurgency ramped up in mid 2004 we were stopped from patrolling in soft skin landrovers - nimble, easy to see out of and easy to get out of in a hurry. Pressure from politicians (like the minister taking all of the credit in this video) who had so far failed to finance the procurement of the proper kit for the job, or provide the solid political purpose for the operation, led to us being forced out of soft skin rovers and into Snatch. Snatch looks wonderful to a politician struggling to justify sending us out there under equipped. But it is heavy, slow, lumbering, very difficult to see out of and extremely difficult to get out of quickly. Then the attacks on the vehicles ramped up as they were an easier target. None of the later UOR protected vehicles were suitable to Iraq city centre ops but luckily by the time they came in we were out of the city mostly. Afghanistan is a very different story and the UORs were absolutely the right choice for that theatre. But please don’t pay any attention to the minister bigging himself up. We were in the situation due to the Labour Prime Minister, Chancellor and Defence Secretary failing to properly resource the armed forces for the mission they gave us. The buck stops at ministers.

[@imtruth69]

In a situation like that just who gives a rats but who thinks it looks like a " Big Bad Vehicle"? Typical bureaucrats for you. More worried about what someone might think than saving lives. They all should go to jail.

[@ChrisPbiker]

I don't understand it, we were using mine-protected LR's and Bedford RL's during the 60's in the Gulf! Did our civvie masters forget, again?

[@samrodian919]

I stopped this video after 18 seconds lol the Land Rover was not in service since the Second World War at all. It wasn't designed for military service, it was designed for farmers and sheep farmers on hilly ground, and did not go into production until 1948 and there were really only the prototypes, first sales being in 1949, so four years after the war. I am not sure exactly when the army started to acquire any series 1 's, but in any quantity it can't have been before 1950 or so given the army's protracted procurement requirements . Having now watched the rest of it I am so saddened by those unnecessary deaths. RIP those military personnel killed. And also I feel for those badly injured, most importantly those who lost in many cases limbs, and eyesight. Should not have happened The snatch Land Rover should have been phased out and replaced by these armoured vehicles at least ten years earlier and it didn't happen. Shame on those responsible in the MOD. I bet they kept their heads down during the Iraq enquiry, God knows why it didn't root out who was responsible. Old Boy Network I suppose.A thought provoking video thank you for uploading this.

[@stanbruce8510]

Sad

[@chrisk1732]

Tony ( Blood still Dripping off his hands )Blair , has yet to be made accountable for sending British armed forces to a war zone in totally inadequate &obsolete equipment .

[@johno9507]

2:26 "Their speed and size." ...literally a kid on a push bike keeping up with it.🤣

[@Smitherrrrs]

My god you're an idiot

[@johno9507]

@@Smitherrrrs Thank you so much. If you can't see the funny timing of that comment with the kids riding alongside, then I think you maybe the dribbling idiot.

[@rc3291]

War is a death trap

[@philipjooste9075]

RG-31 regarded not suitable...to British politicians!

[@yorkshire6458]

Money Money

[@johnathonwebster5720]

It's just disgusting to comprehend or understand why or how the British Army procrastinates in order to keep the costs down in such invasions of foreign lands I remember another comment by one soldier's father and he said "The British Army is just not in it to win" so why bother going there just to police someone else's problem in South Africa when the SADF faced the same situation they built surperb patrol vehicles for their infantry foot soldiers protection and they became the envy of other armies around the world so by facing up to the truth of needing better equipment to achieve winning results so my patronising advice is to the BA is to wake up and smell the coffee if you want to recruit with honour!!?

[@davidbaldwin1591]

War is where pawns risk life for the kings of commerce, under the banner of the bishop.