BG IS NOW P2W?! - Hearthstone Battlegrounds

[@TrenchCrusade]

Still mad how you can't use gold to by the pass

[@zoulzopan]

Don't let the ppl forget. I hated it too and still hated it.

[@anthonychang2728]

the fact that passes even exist is completely fucked.

[@AdamBeee86]

Yep still mad

[@dubey666manu]

you could in season 1

[@klodd5328]

​@@anthonychang2728having a pass you can pay for with in game currency that is priced so you can afford the next pass if you play regularly is a fair idea imo 20 bucks for the season pass is absolutely ridiculous

[@balonius]

I’ve been quitting actively ever since they removed allowing you pay gold for the four hero choice.

[@ahmetsolgun8607]

That made sense, play the game, get 4 options with gold instead of paying. Did that for a while and quit when it became p2w. Its sad

[@psr_gaming]

Ironically I actually bought the tavern pass before when you could pay gold for it. Didn't have enough so I just thought I'd suck it up and pay gold next season. Never bought it again on principle.

[@iamspikefire]

Gives mobile game versions of battlegrounds like Arcane Rush a chance to be better than it lmao

[@psluxton]

Me 2 for not playing since the battlepass system. I used to grind like a beast for the 2000g. 😮‍💨

[@djwidmayer]

@@psr_gaming The "principle" being that Blizzard owes you free entertainment, and you should never have to give them a cent? Weird hill to die on.

[@gothikaboy]

What did you expect from Bli$$ard?

[@sunbleachedangel]

The Microsoft buyout didn't do shiet

[@tkatoen]

Microsoft needs money after buying blizz ofc, they need to refill their budget.

[@CommanderKingpin]

Bg was already p2w after they removed the option to buy the 4 hero selection with Gold

[@buttecake]

Yes, but I see buying a season pass different. It's kind of like a wow free their account. Would you consider wow pay to win? Or pay to play? This seems different because the payment happens in game. To give a temporary boost. I know I haven't explained it well but there feels like a clear difference with this new system and the old one.

[@Fallenstar37]

Yeah and I still enjoy playing it sometimes, it's just you can't go above specific rank without paying money and i'm not gonna to so, its just time killer in the end. It's also fun to play shitty heroes and struggling for top ranks

[@bukem01]

@@buttecake WoW is absolutely pay to win - buy Wow Token for real money, exchange it in game for gold / BiS Gear / carries etc

[@Ocara115]

To be fair I can top 4 almost every lobby even with only two hero selections. But this is actually going to be pay to win and it's just unbelievable. Uninstalling it now. They will probably never go back on this change either, so I'll never reinstall it either. Game made it 10 years at least.

[@hatokiri]

@@Ocara115 The higher your rating, the less this will be true. Everything under 10/11k is casual anyway in my opinion, this won't change much for the average player, this is just an incentive for the sweats to get an advantage going for the leaderboard. The battlepass doesn't even care about your rating, nor is there achievements for that, so very few people care.

[@Robot-12169]

Rip battlegrounds, long live the bazaar!

[@wmgbutchy]

Amen brother

[@iamspikefire]

And maybe Arcane Rush on mobile! 🎉

[@Coriiiiiiiiiiiiii]

Wish it had a mode to play friends live tho

[@iamspikefire]

@@Coriiiiiiiiiiiiii in due time, hopefully

[@thirtysilver33]

An actually amazing game!

[@nicks6980]

This is the worst hearthstone update since mercenaries

[@srtn1137]

hearthstone mercenaries on release is good but their first update is the worst. its so bad to the point i decide to leave the mode completely.

[@ColdWetnStarving]

The fact that they scrapped Duels but kept Mercenaries is wild to me

[@themechanicus9698]

@@ColdWetnStarving dont think they ever showed the number of active player my guess is it was lower than current merceneries player

[@aidanc9396]

@@themechanicus9698 Mercenaries is less played than Duels. The issue is that duels wasn't played much, yet still required a ridic amount of dev time to balance. So they scrapped it.

[@RawrGhosty]

@@ColdWetnStarving "kept" is a crazy way to say abandoned

[@buttecake]

Maybe they should add an armor token that you can use if you're in a tight spot and want to be above damage cap, or maybe a gold token in case you really want to buy that minion. What a great system that can be used all over the game! (:

[@pipi9389]

Blizzard is taking notes. :P

[@Dangerousbros1]

I like the idea of paying $1 to reroll my standard matchup, bad muligan? Reroll. Bad matchup? Reroll Against a druid? Reroll. 😂😂

[@111Malefic]

I know you're joking, but they quite literally proposed this idea in the surveys they made that lead to the reroll tokens.

[@ojciecmateusz7375]

Dont give them ideas

[@docbadwrench-cdmg]

I was really hoping that a meta refresh would help matters. But it looks like every time I wish for Battlegrounds to change, I've doing it on a cursed monkey paw.

[@DesertWooder]

Regarding limited pool on rerolls - it seems logical to extend the current system and assume they just give each player a "deck" of 8 heroes, 4 are shown to you, and 4 aren't until you reroll. Then you might not need to reroll faster, and you still have the same % chance of getting your desired hero on reroll as any other hero. The hero pool is big enough to allow this. (I hate paid rerolls regardless but this seems to make sense)

[@kaazak2504]

I believe this is the system in use. In the FAQ, it's mentioned "your Rerolls aren’t affected by the other players’ Rerolls (so you don’t have to try to game the timing of your Rerolls)". This would suggest a system like you've described. So for better or worse, you just get 8 heroes, hope you like one.

[@Rikokknd]

Imagine they distribute the heroes randomly, 8 per player, and they give every player a hero from the top 8 characters winrate-wise. And those top 8 heroes are also programmed to show up only on the last reroll. Oh that would be so greedy I wish they would go for it. A perfect villain.

[@Spanner1971B]

Yeah I'm quite surprised Kripp missed this (I already posted this same point, but I think you said it better). Clearly this is how they are doing it.

[@Kripparrian]

this does seem likely. Hopefully it is at least fully random

[@admiraltonydawning3847]

And the conspiracy regard would be that Blizzard will have a monetary incentive to make the first four to have the worse selection (according to their internal data, that they will not tell), and the hidden ones to be better. So the player is encouraged to reroll and thus, to spend money.

[@konijnenmans1]

If they do not disclose what the options are on the reroll, it will be considered illegal in europe. I'm not sure how they will handle that.

[@otz6408]

Ohh yea true haha

[@f0kes32]

the options are the hero pool, no?

[@matthewwright981]

@@f0kes32 Minus what the other people are being offered, and what the other people are being offered is not disclosed.

[@Spanner1971B]

@@f0kes32 But the point being made (I think) is that regardless of what system is used to generate the reroll options (either dynamic or pre-coded), certain heroes will be excluded becuase other players have them or have them as options. Becuase you cannot duplicate heroes in the game. EU laws are a little wonky here, and I suspect there is probably some clause that says "this is the pool but some elements of this pool are excluded where no element has any more 'worth' than any other" is allowed... but it will be interesting to see it pan out.

[@arneb482]

@@f0kes32 Not if the specific hero you roll for is already picked by or shown to another player. No two players can pick the same hero as of now. That means you could spent money on something that has 0% chance to occur at that point in time.

[@jzwizzles8795]

Well if this means more Bazaar content I'm all for it

[@squashua16]

Bazaar when it gets ironed out will be a superior game imo

[@nia_cherie]

i dont think that bazaar is the same genre as hearthstone/battlegrounds honestly, nore of its own thing that said i think its superior

[@drsherifff]

​@@nia_cherieIt is the same genre as battlegrounds though. Not as hearthstone that's true.

[@xShotty]

it already looks like it tho... can't wait for december to start playing it :D

[@sunbleachedangel]

When it's out of beta lol

[@MajordomoExexutus]

@@drsherifff I believe BGs is an "auto battler" and bazaar is "Hero-Builder"

[@StillCursed1]

Dude😂😂 I like your honest comments, that is probably why I watched you for years now. Thank you for being real!

[@markstupple3314]

i mean its been P2W for years now. ever since they gave F2P players 2 hero choices instead of 4. Just more greed! Thank god POA 2 is soon!

[@admiraltonydawning3847]

Pit of Anguish? Diablo Immortal?

[@tenrecc]

True, but there's a huge difference between asking for what, 15 usd per 3 months or something like that, versus 1 usd per game.

[@Grumpah]

I haven't played a game of Battlegrounds since The Bazaar opened up...this is also the first BG video I've watched in that same time span. I will probably steer clear of BG for now, may check out some of your vods with the new content...no promises. Thanks for all things The Bazaar!!!

[@RewindGPs]

It's worth mentioning that the first half of *most* battlegrounds seasons was purely vanilla with pool changes, and only later in the season there was a mechanic added, like buddies or trinkets, etc. I'm still hopeful, but this is a real bummer, especially after getting teased by all those new minion types...

[@bloodavenger7095]

Looking fresh Rarran

[@thomassynths]

rarran aint bald

[@LegendLeaguer]

​@@thomassynthsthat's what he wants you to think

[@xpyrox5462]

Raynad is a genius.... he literally could not have timed the beta release of TheBazaar at any better of a time.

[@JJroks543]

Kind of insane how Hearthstone constructed finally has some juice in the tank for the first time in years and years, and then they decide to pull out a gun and put the barrel up to Battlegrounds' forehead.

[@djwidmayer]

Except... the F2P experience will be exactly the same as ever. Y'all need to grow up!

[@dvnweak5171]

Ty for talking about it Kripp, streamers actually talking about it matters

[@arhean3693]

Blizzard shamelesness and greed never ceases to amaze me

[@OscarMemo333]

Frequently Asked Questions Q: Why are you making these changes? A: Because we are greedy and we are always looking for ways to take your money away from you.

[@07vlas]

Can we just start ignoring current Blizzard and their "games"? They are so customer unfriendly, trash company

[@TensaSaigo]

welcome to the dark side brother

[@psr_gaming]

Its just a brand now, the blizzard we knew is long gone.

[@Scienceboy0]

I got through highschool with Hearthstone and Overwatch. Stopped playing both about 5 years ago. Only got back into Kripp because of The Bazaar and seeing this certainly doesn't make me want to get back into Hearthstone.

[@feinne7652]

I already don't touch their stuff outside of a couple games of HoTS every couple of months.

[@missingdays1]

Who's stopping you?

[@DhorianGray]

Fair play Kripp! I was so excited to buy into the Bazaar's early access because I'd like to follow your content about the game. It's been years since I have watched you daily since I was not that into BG. Looking forward to what's next!

[@colossaldonut5190]

In case anybody was wondering if Kripp was gonna do more BGs content lol

[@whippedcreamm_]

The bazaar can’t get here soon enough

[@Buppybuperson]

Rip BG's, thanks for the years of fun!

[@hatokiri]

BG already went P2W when they removed the ability to purchase the premium pass with gold. It's just "more" P2W now.

[@onji81]

Why didn't they go all in and made the heros "rotate through" like in a slot machine? And then it slowly skips the one you were looking for and locks into the next one - which you absolutely did not want. The game is already designed to be like a slot machine - why not go all in?! Such a bad decision...

[@tinofalcon3190]

Yes I think we are gonna have the bazaar for a while... With I'm 100% FOR

[@Avinaar]

"Why is my game that I expect to have constant new content and updates not free??!"

[@purpleaki06]

Can tell BGs has fallen off as im playing Standard for the first time in about 4 years

[@3ndl89]

I haven’t gotten that desperate yet 😂

[@datacorz]

I actually, non-sarcastically played arena lately.

[@300mare]

Arena is different. It hasn't changed since beginning and it's pretty solid as an idea. Constructed died before battlegrounds existed.

[@sirafr0zilla]

Your words are valid. The trinket patch pushed me away from Bags for the same reason. Your voice gives life to the opinions of many!

[@zoroark567]

My guess for how each hero can only be obtained by one player would be that when you join the lobby, you're internally already assigned eight heroes. I would be surprised if WHEN you refresh affects your possible outcomes.

[@Wolfyowns]

Finally a damage cap update, I always thought 15 was to much for a "cap" honestly I don't know why monsters should count to damage, just let the hero be the tier be the damage if you win. I still hate that tokens count as damage too. Been waiting for Bazaar to be free to play because I wanna enjoy a long fight card game and not lose in 4 turns to tokens. Cant wait to play the bazaar

[@matthiasbohnstedt1186]

As an software developer I highly doubt that they would build the reroll feature as Kripp descirbe it. It will be most likly a pre selected pool of Heros you can chose and reroll. Syncronizing the "blocked" heros between 8 Clients is an effort they I would never do.

[@patricklorran1960]

Lol I just reinstalled HS and was playing quite a bit of battlegrounds, guess it's time for another break

[@Azoz157_]

i cant sleep to patch notes kripp , i need bg gameplay

[@atlanntis8064]

same but pooping for me

[@PoebelToetetKoenig]

That's my main problem right now

[@butchrodgers9559]

Bg sucks bruh watch bazaar

[@DeathComesQuick666]

06:29 Krip, three hero selections was like 4 or 5 seasons ago lol. Free to play players only get TWO hero options. :(

[@brodacious1313]

Hearthstone is such a cash-grab I'm sick of seeing it, and while I love The Bazaar its Closed-Beta-State could use some love, as right now it gets pretty boring if you're half-decent.

[@Shayde7098]

people are being way too forgiving to this announcement. this absolutely destroys the game.

[@TauAlphaVu]

Even if your ideal hero is an option right away, there's still a heavy incentive to reroll any bad hero options to put them back in the pool and try to fish more good heroes out of the pool to keep other people from getting them. So to min-max the most, you should pretty much always reroll everything unless you happen to get all of the best options.

[@Spanner1971B]

I guarantee that Rerolled heroes are already coded and locked. You wont need to reroll faster as your 4 hidden options were decided at game generation. So before you even start to reroll, the games engine has already decided if you have Sire (or whoever) or not.

[@imaforceanature7297]

You’re probably right, I counted the bgs heroes and stopped counting at 64 because realistically even if every player rerolled 4x they would only see 8 total heroes.

[@alexstewart9592]

Some heroes are only available with specific minion types, some are banned with specific minion types and some get disabled due to bugs. As such, they need to make sure that every single possible tribe combination has at least 64 eligable heroes, ban tribe combinations that don't get there, or remove/relax the duplicate hero rules in order to use that system.

[@aggsar4411]

@@alexstewart9592 There are close to 100 heroes with about 13-14 tribe specific heroes. This game can easily pre allocate 8 heroes to each player with no issue

[@alexandrekuritza5685]

Its been years, and I it's finally time to call it, the sun has set on the hearthstone empire. Arena, 2019. Duels, 2021. Mercenaries and Constructed, 2022. Battleground, 2024.

[@mcmiscellaneous4706]

Saw some Bazaar content and thought, “Man, this looks cool, but I don’t want to pay yet. Anything similar?” That led me to Battlegrounds. After playing for about an hour or so, I said, “Nah, this isn’t it,” and bought into The Bazaar. Great choice on my end!

[@raggu1614]

Bgs also has a problem with games effectively ending with little to no input. Level on 2, buy the strongest minions, level normally make the right moves based on what you see/hero choice and you just get 15'ed twice and you're dead.

[@sirhabanero647]

the moment the bazaar becomes open beta, im ditching BGs for good. No point in playing anyway, the amount i have to quit and reload is just making my MMR stagnate. Plus no paying gold for pass. This is the last nail in the coffin really which is such a shame..

[@Furionic696]

damn it's finally time to return to the arenian salt mines! I knew this battlegrounds thing was just a phase Kripp!

[@nybbegd9471]

11:30 the update sucks for competetive players, but the 4 heroes you potentiale reroll into has been determined before rolling, so it wouldnt make a difference rolling the heroes fast

[@gudebro2000]

Depending on how it's programmed, that built in fomo could possibly be an illusion. If the server preassigns heroes then it just feels worse to play with no functional difference

[@Yunvaa]

It is mentioned your reroll aren’t affected by other player, so you 100% just get 8 heroes at the beginning and rerolling would give you one of the others you didn’t start with, good luck making that legal in europe blizzard

[@batuhaninalkac9418]

Blizzard is trying so hard to loose all players

[@adamforbes8652]

Why am I not surprised. Absolutely done with the game.

[@jakescott3388]

Hey Kripp long time watcher. I fully support you switching the youtube content to other games! I would love to see you do series of various card games like Slay the Spire, Balatro etc

[@tonyp2788]

I think what makes this such a slap in the face is we have been asking for this since battle grounds launched but we deserved this as a FREE option well rip hearthstone 10 years gone

[@bordeaux1337]

Next update: You can now pay $10 for an extra gold in any turn.

[@ettltobias2669]

Thanks for the headsup! I am out of battlegrounds now. It ist in a disgusting state and ain't getting fun anymore... So thats the Last needle in the coffin for Hearthstone for me... Keep Bazaar Up and running and have a good time!

[@Ally-4LoL]

The system is fair, you have 0 chance to get Sire Denathrius if someone else got it, but you also have highher chance to get him when he is in the pool

[@TheKaneECO]

The fact that you even have the option to reroll at all means that the heroes aren’t balanced.

[@djwidmayer]

No, it means everyone has different preferences for what they like to play.

[@TheKaneECO]

@djwidmayer From a ranked perspective this makes the game more pay to win. Don't get it twisted. This wasn't added for "players getting to play the heroes they want for fun". This is "give us money and you will statistically win more"

[@noahknox9606]

Minor correction on the 'incentive to reroll faster': they stated in the patch notes that this won't be a possibility and that it doesn't matter when you choose to reroll them because they want to avoid these reroll races. Given there's 94 heroes I assume what each hero will reroll into will be allocated when loading in, so each player will have 8 heroes allocated to them (4 shown and the 4 hidden rerolls, so 64 heroes will be allocated on loading). That's my reading of it anyway, but it still doesn't change the fact this is grossly p2w lol

[@rein4043]

damn, legendary BG vod + Cybrix also got mentioned PagMan

[@nastified]

Who cares? I dont plan on buying any tokens and i dont really care if people want to waste their money. I just enjoy trying to get first with what im offered.

[@Jotoneee]

Will you play BG even as PoE2 will be there 😂🎉

[@br2266]

I remember them stating Microsoft, they would buy blizzard, then news disappeared, and two years later it was quietly bought out.

[@drTollieworst]

I'm actually super excited for the new battlegrounds patch. Because that means we get way more the Bazaar videos.

[@_kimnguyen]

Kripp is mistaken about the FOMO aspect. Players are given eight hero choices when the lobby starts but only see 2 or 4 of them at a time. When a player re-rolls, they get to see the 5th to 8th option. But those 5th to 8th options are exclusive the player and are locked from the rest of the lobby. That means there is no rush to re-roll. As stated in the FAQ: "your Rerolls aren’t affected by the other players’ Rerolls (so you don’t have to try to game the timing of your Rerolls)."

[@iriswaldenburger2315]

THIS!

[@christopherbartels1823]

If this claim is true, any given lobby max rerolls 64 heroes. Are ther that many available in game? Will they all play fairly n balanced? Ohhh boi… xD

[@iriswaldenburger2315]

@@christopherbartels1823 they can and WILL code it so that not the whole lobby will be paid BP players for dead sure, in order to ensure that the max reroll potential won’t actually be a lie

[@alexanderg9670]

Only could be the case if there were 64 heroes, there are not I expect that once anyone in the lobby presses reroll, it gets placed in the queue and the queue moves at animation speed on each next player screen

[@_kimnguyen]

@@alexanderg9670 There are about 100 heroes. Even if you account for some heroes being unavailable due to tribe selection, there are still plenty of leftovers. You can search "hs bg" for the official site and filter type by heroes to see the full list.

[@cruxe2372]

There are so many basic ideas they could have used to make these reroll tokens great. Reward players who don't leave games, let players use the gold to buy them even if there is a cap on how many you can buy with in game gold, queuing with random duos could reward some. Use these things to keep the game healthy and active but no just cash grabs to the max.

[@Michael-ts5ib]

I stopped playing when they made it PTW with needing to buy the pass to get all 4 of the hero options/ get any of the new heroes. This made me feel even better about my decision even though it was a fun game.

[@RunicTitan]

While I completely understand that the battlepass sales are probably nowhere near the amount of revenue they USED to get from regular HS expansions; This is one of the dumbest ways to attempt to earn more money. If nobody bought the battlepass and regular HS is dead; Battlegrounds would die too. With the assholes at the top, I understand that the HS devs are forced to implement more ways of earning revenue. I wish there was other ways, but I can't really think of anything that people would be happy with.

[@vidwatcher00]

it would also benefit them monetarily to put the current top winning heros as only rerolls ,or signifigantly rarer then others

[@Dragisnaj]

RIP Hearthstone, Blizzards greed knows no Bounds ... what will we get at other games Uber Rerols for money in D4? .... The Company should be closed.

[@KikcheGreen]

This was my last blizzard game that i actively play im deleting it on the third when this shitshow drops and the entire battlenet i have no use for it anymore im done with the whole company

[@robertgrissom5760]

I have almost 50k gold. I don't play traditional Hearthstone and can't use any of that gold on battlegrounds. To me, that really sucks!!

[@glovebox421]

as a f2p player. seeing 4 heroes to choose from is crazy to me. thats kinda like 2 extra rerolls

[@jags29]

Idk whats worse. The fact that this paid reroll system is going to be a thing or the fact that we live in a time where game devs can get away with implementing "features" like this because they know people will just pay for any advantage they can get.

[@Trexter3000]

i play on my phone, and it crashes every two battles or every battle late game. I also can't go into the shop or deck builder without the app crashing. What's annoying is if the app crashes as 21 or 20 seconds remaining of the turn, I will fail to reconnect and I take a loss. This has only happened with the current patch.

[@randyboyes1]

The point about fomo on rerolls isn't correct. Since you have a finite amount of rerolls per game (4), if everyone is rolling for the same hero, you have an equal chance no matter when you roll. For a simple example that works the same, imagine 4 people drawing from a bag of 4 rocks with one winning rock. All players have a 1/4 chance of the winning rock no matter the draw order - the first has 1/4 obviously, then the second will draw 3/4 times with a 1/3 chance = 3/12 = 1/4, third person will draw 1/2 the time but will have a 1/2 shot = 1/4, and the forth will win every time they draw, but will only draw 1 in 4 times

[@Voidy123]

If Hearthstone is becoming pay to win then I'm leaving it, been playing it casually since it came out, it's so sad that greed always spoils a good thing.

[@obviousbear1289]

Escape - concede - next game. There. Free reroll for all heroes.

[@xefficient1948]

It seems you need to purchase the Pass+ to get the first one free, which means you'd STILL have to pay to do that. (See: 7:28 under "Season Pass+" is "Reroll Perk (1 per game)")

[@CentralTokyo]

There should be an mmr penalty for rerolling. -25 points, or whatever is equivalent to a 5th place finish. They can’t let the leaderboards be determined by who is playing $1 a game to reroll their heroes to maximize their advantage.

[@robbyw.8616]

It's nice that they improve the DMG-cap but the fact that you can pay for your reroll is such a slippery slope. Even if it's unlikely I hope it stops there.

[@professional.commentator]

So Kripp's Hearthstone content is officially done now? Damn. RIP Hearthstone. I stopped playing the game back in January of this year.

[@gigos2]

The death of Battle Grounds Part 1 - The Movie.

[@Jotoneee]

I only play BG because its on mobile. If bazar is free to play and Mobile i will leave BGs Sad to see how Blizzard keeps killing their reputation. I started Hearthstone by watching your streams. I will leave it with you.

[@adamforbes8652]

Given how well the bazaar seems to be doing this seems like the nail in the coffin for HS BG

[@willymaxwell2160]

Hate the fact Krip was so close to a million but fell off slowly, still the OG arena king tho

[@madmike2279]

Still rewatching his older videos from 2015-2018, such a good HS era

[@iriswaldenburger2315]

He lost many subs because he kept insisting on publishing “new” videos with old patch content for WEEKS. Like “I’m showingcasing with this 4 weeks old game why the change to XX was warranted” … and the other videos he just kept pushing games from old patches because? He just did it and people called him out on this many times but the YT just continued that. THATS when he lost most of the subs he lost

[@Miss_Dis]

I really thought they were in a bit of a rut and so they'd bring out something big like a new minion type but this sucks

[@AshleyArbelos]

11:40 I think kripp is wrong here. I think the champions are already prechosen behind the reroll section and not pulling from a pool of "open" characters left, which btw, is even worse

[@affielyx]

Expected from blizzard, money sucking company but worst. BG was the only game that i play from blizzard. Now its time to end.

[@stellans.2146]

LOL... and I was thinking of getting back into HS after 5 years... I will dodge it now. Thanks for the heads up :)

[@THMCTerracraft2]

Yes Blizzard, now make a ton of money, introduce mulligan tokens for the base game, have other card games see how well it worked out and copy the system. Make tabletop the only option again.

[@_Adobo]

Eww BG content. Back to the Bazaar please

[@DjSaifa]

Our prophet reynoodle requests more Bazaar content

[@xicy133x]

Ew bazaar cringe

[@christopherlee9026]

True that 👍

[@mathias8013]

Bazaar is amazing

[@jaden344]

He needs bg income

[@Calphurnious]

My very first initial reaction to rerolling heroes in battlegrounds was good because then that may help solve the issue of people leaving in hero select do to getting some lame hero. It sucks when most matches you have a few people leave to crap selection. But you have to pay for it, no thank you.

[@dd7896]

I'd argue it's either been p2w since they've made the change that you can't buy the battle pass with gold anymore, or nothing has changed. Getting to see 4 heroes instead of 2 is just as much pay 2 win as it is to see 8 instead of 4. So basically, nothing's changed. Battlegrounds has been pay 2 win for quite some time, it's now even more pay 2 win.

[@johnnyboy4ever]

When you reroll a hero, does the hero go back in the pool? Can others then reroll into the heroes you ejected? Can you get them back if you keep rolling? 😂 I'm so happy that I don't care.

[@galkanftw]

Battle pass =buy the same game over and over and over on top of cash shop items lol.

[@DecayedPony]

I wish instead of adding p2w things, they would just add skins for cards, (Like 2.99 and all your bran bronzebeards have a different card art or are signature / diamond cards)

[@jamesarclight544]

It makes me sad that Kripp doesn’t like trinkets as I don’t think they’re going away yet so he probably won’t play BGs. Personally I love trinkets.

[@Veaeate]

Been confirmed that you have 8 heroes in your pool and its static. On reddit by devs

[@StrawberryJesuss]

Goodbye BGs

[@viewerdescretionisadvised474]

you sound very pissed off. I get you