Bicycle Descending Tips for Everyone Who’s NOT Tom Pidcock - Please excuse mansplaining (she asked)

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Phil Gaimon

Phil Gaimon

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@aethylwulfeiii6502
@aethylwulfeiii6502 26 күн бұрын
This is by far the best tutorial on descending I have ever heard. I do practice cornering in the empty parking lots and it does wonders for cornering on descending.
@worstretirementever
@worstretirementever 26 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@AppleJack76
@AppleJack76 3 ай бұрын
You mean to tell us, we shouldn't be descending like SAFA Brian?
@worstretirementever
@worstretirementever 3 ай бұрын
haha DEFINTELY NOT like him
@samyarabi9033
@samyarabi9033 3 ай бұрын
safa still alive ? maybe he just respawns
@hernanhernandez3861
@hernanhernandez3861 3 ай бұрын
He's crazy...
@BanacaNation
@BanacaNation 3 ай бұрын
Mess life for over a decade in the craziest city and then you can try descending like SAFA, but still don’t.
@mettflow2648
@mettflow2648 3 ай бұрын
Yeah defo not as slow as him, I am faster in the majority of segments he did in switzerland
@robertlight2370
@robertlight2370 3 ай бұрын
I've seen a lot of videos on how to descend, but you're the only person to suggest paying attention to the advisory speed signs. Well done!
@rubenm41
@rubenm41 3 ай бұрын
I feel critical advice is missing: if you're descending at speed, always be in the drops. If your hands are on the hoods, hitting a bump at speed will easily knock the handlebar out of your hands, in the drops this will likely not happen. I heard this is how many pros went down in the Basque crash, hitting a bump in a corner while being on the hoods.
@worstretirementever
@worstretirementever 3 ай бұрын
not sure about basque crash, but you're right i should have mentioned to be in the drops. helps to absorb impacts/bumps/g forces, better angle if you need to brake hard, and (I think most important) puts your weight lower
@davemoss6976
@davemoss6976 3 ай бұрын
On the drops you can also apply more force on the brakes in an emergency. Not relevant to to hydraulic discs.
@rcggijzen
@rcggijzen 3 ай бұрын
I've been riding for > 30 years and heard this a million times, but I've never been able to feel comfortable descending in the drops. My upper body and shoulders feel restricted, I can't look forward as well and it is generally uncomfortable all-round. I never ride in the drops on the flats either. And yes, I have been bike-fitted by a professional, multilple times. Nevertheless I consider myself a good recreational descender who can go reasonably fast yet safe. Braking power is a non-issue; even with rim-brakes I have plenty power when braking from the hoods. Enough to lock both tires. The 'always descend in the drops' is probably good general advice for most people, but if it feels uncomfortable, even after giving it a good try, it maybe just doesn't fit your flexibility. This is not a big thing, descending from the hoods fast & safe is definitely possible.
@JNorth87
@JNorth87 3 ай бұрын
@@worstretirementever Not a hard and fast rule about being in the drops depending on decline grade and weight distribution.
@yayilovesquares
@yayilovesquares 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video Phil, At 3:38, if you want to turn left you should actually push on the left handlebar. This is counter steering, they teach this technique when riding motor bikes because you're likely at higher speeds. This is also applicable for road bikes but at high speeds such as decents.
@peteracain
@peteracain 3 ай бұрын
100%. Best advice I ever received
@flukessevo
@flukessevo 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, weight on inside bar and outside foot.
@augustuskelley4170
@augustuskelley4170 3 ай бұрын
The way I always thought about it was to not use my body to lean the bike into the turn, but to keep my shoulders square to the road surface and lean the bike into the turn independent of my body. It’s not only good technique for descending, but essential for fast tight criterion corners. And frankly, that’s what got me at age 40 from cat 3 to cat 2 (at 5’11” and 175 lbs/ 80kg). I could go to the front late in the race, scream through the technical parts and no one could hold my wheel. I taught this to all of my teammates and we ended up with the number one amateur team in the region. Also, you’d be surprised how much resistance people have to this idea. I can’t tell you how many times people tried to convince me that I was dead wrong, and the body should be leaned *into* the corner, ‘just like on a motorcycle.’ And when you watch the pro -peloton you can tell that people can rise to the very highest levels of the sport without ever learning this. And my question always is- why haven’t the pro coaches taught them this?
@Frostbiker
@Frostbiker 3 ай бұрын
Thank goodness is not just me. It is counter steering, and you do that by leaning the bike more than your body, hence the cues of placing weight on the outside leg and the inside handlebar.
@Paksusuoli95
@Paksusuoli95 3 ай бұрын
Any steering is counter-steering. Normal steering does not exist. See the video on it by FortNine
@MitchBoyer
@MitchBoyer 3 ай бұрын
“I am not Tom Pidcock” a motto for us all 😂
@worstretirementever
@worstretirementever 3 ай бұрын
yet someone forgets, every ride
@JackMott
@JackMott 3 ай бұрын
Nah I got a cat 2 XC race this weekend with a guy more fit than me. I gotta summon my inner Pidcock
@davemoss6976
@davemoss6976 3 ай бұрын
It should be wieght on outside foot but inside hand on the bars.
@MrTommyP1
@MrTommyP1 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, I had to rewind to make sure I heard that right, counter to what I've always understood
@Sovole
@Sovole 3 ай бұрын
I tried outside hand yesterday in my normal descents and liked it. Less chance to oversteer. No idea if right or wrong, but I liked it
@pompeymonkey3271
@pompeymonkey3271 3 ай бұрын
Track riders do this too. I certainly feel more in control with my weight on the inside at the front too.
@billkallas1762
@billkallas1762 3 ай бұрын
If you've gone through a downhill turn 99 times, the 100th time, there might be some sand in the apex. Be aware.
@aethylwulfeiii6502
@aethylwulfeiii6502 26 күн бұрын
Or a salmon rider going up the wrong way.
@taff3935
@taff3935 3 ай бұрын
Loved this. Used it today in Mallorca to practice my descents (safely). I'd also add look round the corner as you turn , i'e face where you want to be, don't look ahead ...your wheels follow your head position. I learnt this doing off road mortorbike stuff. Changed how I turned. Just do it on a narrow flat path and you'll see what I mean. The strangest sensation
@SSorgears
@SSorgears 3 ай бұрын
I've been riding for decades - I used to be fast, but now I'm old and don't bounce as well as I used to. My tip for newer riders trying to 'get faster' going down the road or trail has always been "Focus on riding smoothly, not fast. Once you are smooth, the speed will come". This was a good video for folks to watch. I enjoy your content Phil! One other thing to consider if changing lines or crossing the middle of your lane is to watch out for the 'oil slick' in the middle of the lane - cars that leak oil tend to do it from the middle of the car between the wheels... Esp if the road is wet, the center of the lane can be quite slippery.
@worstretirementever
@worstretirementever 3 ай бұрын
thank you!
@lylewalker5681
@lylewalker5681 3 ай бұрын
A lot of what goes into bike descending really just is completely physically intuitive, and you just have to do it a lot and kind of trust yourself and the way your body moves. Helps if you’ve been riding a bike your whole life, but if you’re starting at an older age, just take it slow and pay attention to what works and do not go outside your comfort zone until you really have some time.
@evanharriman5352
@evanharriman5352 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for this! I’ve never been a racer so I’ve always put safety first in every ride. Descending is the one thing that has always made me push the boundaries on my own safety, since I’ve gotten really good at it over the years. It’s so easy to confuse confidence with security and I’ve had a couple close calls recently while descending. I needed this reminder that you can still have 90% of the fun at 80% of the speed (and arguably 50% increased safety)
@daveanolik8837
@daveanolik8837 3 ай бұрын
FWIW, if you’re in a car looking up the hill before turning onto the road, a blinking day torch is much easier to see than an accelerating bike without lights (especially if the rider has a low-viz kit). Also, that slippery white line thing is very real. Here in Eugene a few years back a (very lightweight & small) local legend was sucked under a truck while TT’ing down a wet white stripe (I think micro glass is added for reflectivity). Thx for the excellent vid for us normal folks 👏🏻👏🏻
@chrisbuttine6869
@chrisbuttine6869 3 ай бұрын
I set the screen of my head unit to maps so when I glance down I get a can get a sense of the curves coming up.
@mzeier
@mzeier 3 ай бұрын
I crashed on a wet descent and earned myself a broken leg. The hardest thing for me was regaining confidence in stopping the bike. For most of last year, I'd ride the brakes all the way down, constantly afraid of speed. Wish I had this video last year. I could use a whole video on braking (please).
@davemoss6976
@davemoss6976 3 ай бұрын
@@mzeier feather the brakes. That is apply the break and release a bit .,apply,release,apply, release in quick succession, imitating car ABS braking to avoid skidding.
@classicturn
@classicturn 3 ай бұрын
What a great and simple common sense approach to approach descending. I am not Tom Piddock, but boy I do enjoy a great descent. I had lost a little of my edge and that is mainly to not being able to see the hazards. When I'm not comfortable I dial it down. Bombing down a descent with 10 hidden driveways is a great way to become a hood ornament. Thanks for the great content.
@aminostruth3494
@aminostruth3494 3 ай бұрын
I crashed descending on the Telegraph 10 years ago. Was very lucky indeed. Took a corner too fast, slid on some loose 'stuff' hidden in the shadows and went over the side wall which fortunately was not proceeded by a drop. Ripped my shorts, grazed my leg, hands and shoulder and tore some bar tape! Other than that just bruised pride for over cooking it. I remember feeling grateful as could have been so much worse. Great tips and advice as always Phil.
@thart6103
@thart6103 3 ай бұрын
Thank you, Phil and Emily ❤ I was just going to ask you to make a video about this! Perfect timing especially with Cookie Fondo coming up. Looking forward to updates on Emily’s race for City of Hope ❤
@worstretirementever
@worstretirementever 3 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@RyonBeachner
@RyonBeachner 3 ай бұрын
I’m not fast, and the only segment I’m faster than Phil on is the Palomar descent, so you can rest easy knowing he’s not lying about taking all the descents easy since he retired.
@worstretirementever
@worstretirementever 3 ай бұрын
hahaha
@rustyheyman214
@rustyheyman214 3 ай бұрын
@@worstretirementeverLooking forward to the upcoming Palomar descent video
@lylewalker5681
@lylewalker5681 3 ай бұрын
Also I would add… don’t try to snack by reaching into your back jersey while descending and riding temporarily with one hand, because if you hit any imperfection on the road, it’s not gonna be a fun time. Ask me how I know.
@hamishmaxa6509
@hamishmaxa6509 3 ай бұрын
Regarding hazards, on my regular training routes and on quiet descents I know well, I'll often challenge myself to take the outside line around 'safe' hazards like a leaf or stone on the road. Not super fast or crazy, but I find it useful to use this sort of practice to reinforce what your current limits are, have a think about how you approached and went round the target and what you might need to tweak. Did I spend too much time looking at the obstacle and not enough looking forward to where I wanted my wheels to go, did I move my weight over the front wheel etc? Keep up with this sort of practice and you have something to fall back on when you do come across a real surprise that you need to react to.
@RobertJWaid
@RobertJWaid 3 ай бұрын
Great tips. Being relaxed is very important. This way you won't get in the way of a right-sized bike descending for you.
@Djacob_
@Djacob_ 3 ай бұрын
One tip I use a lot is braking late in the corners. You said to finish braking before you hit the turn, but the fastest way to descend is to have a smooth line and brake late. That’s something I learned from mountain biking.
@mettflow2648
@mettflow2648 3 ай бұрын
The fastest way is to not brake
@Djacob_
@Djacob_ 3 ай бұрын
@@mettflow2648 that’s the fastest way to a hospital bill, for sure.
@BillDeanCycle
@BillDeanCycle 3 ай бұрын
terrific info team! You both did a great job teaching some great technique with awesome descending video to drive home weight placement!
@georanma
@georanma 3 ай бұрын
Great multi colored design and shape Emily! Phil, your nails a great too 😊. Thanks for the tips.
@johnschmidt2766
@johnschmidt2766 3 ай бұрын
I shake my elbows a bit, especially while braking (as mentioned, preferably prior to the corner) because: gripping brakes = tight muscles = arms locked=oops not counter steering = straight off the road (hopefully not into a tree, even relatively low speed, this killed a cyclist here in Oregon a decade ago or so.) so I always hake my elbows as a reminder to stay loose. I’ll sometimes deliberately countersteer to lean the bike…. In a motorcycle class I was taught that in a corner speed is not a concern; the bike will stick as long as you look into the corner properly. We practiced and they were not happy with my technique until I finally cranked my head so far over I felt like I was looking backwards. “There you finally got it!” Hell,that class was mostly them emphasizing to look into the corner. Finally the other thing I do is come out of the saddle a bit ( transfers weight to bottom bracket, thus more balanced front to rear) this is the same thing as putting weight on outside leg as mentioned in the video, just easier and more deliberate.
@stevedouglas3975
@stevedouglas3975 3 ай бұрын
Interesting you say you rear brake for slowing and front for moderating. I was always told front is more effective due to weight distribution so main stopping power from front not rear. Obviously a front lock up to be avoided at all costs(!).
@nerigarcia7116
@nerigarcia7116 3 ай бұрын
Yeah but you're not trying to come to a stop, you're just scrubbing speed. Back brake is sufficient and is powerful enough to slow you down. Plus, you don't want to grab a full amount of front brake going into the turn because you're using it to feather to control the front end. Frankly, it's both brakes to slow before the turn but more back than front. If you lock it up or really have to pull on them, you can control the back wheel drifting off over the front.
@danielakerman8241
@danielakerman8241 3 ай бұрын
I like the rear brake advice. Using the rear brake is still going to shift weight towards the front of the bike and load the front tire, especially in a descent, but in a more controllable way by keeping the front tire rotating smoothly. Descending already biases weight distribution towards the front wheel, so using that front brake can put too much load on the front of the bike and really upset handling and just make the rider far more uneasy. It’s also a good insurance policy for road imperfections. If you’ve got that front wheel loaded up from descending AND a fistful of front brake, any road imperfections could mean you’re losing the front wheel and hitting the deck HARD.
@daveatutube
@daveatutube 3 ай бұрын
If you're trying to stay safe (or even to wring the absolute most out of linked turns) then aim to hit the apex maybe 2/3 of the way through the corner so you're in a good position on the road to start the next turn. A race driver once told me to aim through the apex at the turn in of the next corner (not quite their words, but the general idea), and that's given me time and space to recover a few times when odd stuff happened. Gravel in the middle of the road can still catch you out though, and I've still got a few Italian wound dressings in my first aid kit from re-learning that lesson,
@JamieSmith-fz2mz
@JamieSmith-fz2mz 3 ай бұрын
I really wish you had mentioned counter-steering. It’s the most important aspect of cornering. Tiny changes in pressure on the inside bar will either tighten your turn or loosen it up. Those micro adjustments give you direct control over your turn. You don’t turn a bike by leaning, the bike leans when you tell it to.
@worstretirementever
@worstretirementever 3 ай бұрын
I think countersteering is a bit more advanced that I needed to go in this one. I'm not looking to help folks maximize speed. 90% of it is having your weight and your eyes in the same place
@JamieSmith-fz2mz
@JamieSmith-fz2mz 3 ай бұрын
​@@worstretirementever Yeah, you're right. It's best saved for your 200 level course. Speaking of courses, I miss seeing you out on the ATOC and TOU routes. Those were halcyon days, man.
@KidFury27
@KidFury27 3 ай бұрын
I promise I I'm not lying: I rode down Fremont pass in Colorado with a significant tailwind once on my Tarmac SL3. I truly hit 64 MPH. YES. That number is real. Here are my tips: 1. Yes. Look way way ahead and not directly in front of you. 2. The formula is 1 part weight x two parts crazy. The easiest way to put this is you must not think about crashing. If you do you will. Just like in a crit, if you think you will get crashed out, you will. Falling should never enter your mind. 3. Lastly, just like in war. If you fall (die) at that speed you are already dead and will not have the reaction time to deal with it. Stay positive, ride smart, be crazy, and don't hesitate. 4. Extra tip. Don't listen to me. I got lucky with the tailwind on a basically straight decent. I also weighed over 230 LBS at the time and I was so young. I did not have even the slightest worry about what could happen if I hit even the smallest pebble. To summarize don't do this, don't listen to me and pay all of your attention to Phil. 64 mph is fun to brag about... Getting ragdoled down a pass is not. Do not try this at home!!!!
@Nicoya
@Nicoya 2 ай бұрын
One change I'd make is actually the apex thing. When I'm riding on the open road, I actually push the apex way late, so that I'm basically just going outside-inside instead of outside-inside-outside. I can't necessarily see the exit of the corner when I'm coming into it, and having the extra space to potentially run wide into to avoid some kind of unseen hazard gives me lots of options vs already heading for the outside of the turn after hitting the apex in the middle of the corner and not having any option but to hold on for dear life. Is it slower? Yeah. But to rephrase the advice in this video: it's better to be slow and alive than fast and dead.
@Nova-dy6fq
@Nova-dy6fq 3 ай бұрын
I had a nasty crash on a descent last year(another rider crashed into me on RAGBRAI) and I've had the descending yips ever since. Appreciate the tips as I try to work my way out of it.
@endcensorship874
@endcensorship874 3 ай бұрын
"a small bit of water can be more slippery than you think" I hear that. I was on a descent, and I hit was what I thought was a tiny bit of water, and I lost all control of my bike, breaking my pelvis.
@arthurmiller4650
@arthurmiller4650 3 ай бұрын
Great stuff. Don't forget your lane position can help maximize your line of sight.
@jaredlash5002
@jaredlash5002 3 ай бұрын
I was out in Colorado this summer doing some great climbs with fun descents. It was my first time out there and all of the roads were new to me. I played it very safe on the descents. I didn't swing out wide since some of the pavement was indistinguishable from the gravel shoulder. Also, I didn't want to hit any surprise gravel patches on the road.
@MrLuigiFercotti
@MrLuigiFercotti 3 ай бұрын
As a motorcyclist, it’s not the going fast downhill around corners part, it’s the going fast on skinny tires, no suspension and essentially naked.
@midrangemonroe1
@midrangemonroe1 3 ай бұрын
I'm still recovering from a broken collarbone after my tires washed out on a turn. Not sure how I'll ever get any confidence on turns like this.
@worstretirementever
@worstretirementever 3 ай бұрын
time
@brentperez4700
@brentperez4700 3 ай бұрын
I feel you. I’m in a very similar situation. Let’s see how it goes. Good luck! Let’s keep the rubber side down.
@brianwallace6566
@brianwallace6566 3 ай бұрын
@@worstretirementever and more collarbones
@brianwallace6566
@brianwallace6566 3 ай бұрын
I mean isn't that why they break? to save the other parts?
@BingoBangoBabyInc
@BingoBangoBabyInc 3 ай бұрын
I should send this video to my friend Primoz
@bee_whisper
@bee_whisper 3 ай бұрын
I remember doing track cycling and the coaches would say top two rules is always look through the person Infront eg look well ahead and the second rules was never treat two laps the same if you switch off mentally that's when crashes happen
@adamweb
@adamweb 3 ай бұрын
0:50 "That's some boomer shit" - Cookie Monster 3:16 😂
@michaelpolakowski7301
@michaelpolakowski7301 3 ай бұрын
Good video. Bike handling/technique is something all riders can practice and apply.
@fingernailsonwindow
@fingernailsonwindow 3 ай бұрын
Be more conservative on right hand turns (non-British traffic rules) than left hand. Overcooking the former can put you in the path of oncoming traffic, which is usually more serious than going off the right shoulder in an overcooked left turn.
@inthesPhila
@inthesPhila 3 ай бұрын
I like the idea for 1/2 or so of your weight onto the front tire, not on the seat, by putting weight on the pedal or crank and putting some on the handlebars. From bicycle and motorcycle experience on pavement and dirt and grass.
@offthefront7537
@offthefront7537 3 ай бұрын
I just came back from the pro race in Montréal. I was at the bottom of the 50mph hill at the hard right. Tadej pogacar was alone and he looked like he was going straight. They are a different breed.
@DEAR7340
@DEAR7340 3 ай бұрын
The whole, "weight on the outside of the curve," thing is a big deal; I discovered/realized/adopted it after many years of cycling. This is probably because few of my routes had serious descents, much less curves. In retirement, I now live/ride in the mountains. I descend faster and in a more relaxed state than I did thirty years ago.
@Outsideville
@Outsideville 3 ай бұрын
Remember that in big events, there will be other riders not following any of this advice.
@nerigarcia7116
@nerigarcia7116 3 ай бұрын
If you have to adjust for something in the turn, take the straightest line possible to clear it and the turn, and don't lean into it or swerve dramatically. It will take you off your line more, if not down.
@jemsmay2167
@jemsmay2167 3 ай бұрын
Best downhill I ever got was lean the bike not the rider, and everything smooth (no abrupt speed or course or pace or anything changes…)
@gamecat1923
@gamecat1923 3 ай бұрын
Getting your butt off the saddle is also a good idea, lowers c of g, gives you better human powered suspension.
@starlitshadows
@starlitshadows 3 ай бұрын
One thing I always tell people is if you happen to be descending the same road you are climbing. Look for rocks, dirt patches, potholes etc on the way up. Especially if you are going to rip it. I wouldn't recommend doing so without surveying it first and without knowing the corners well. You might be fine most of the time or you might end up looking like Phil's fake fall on the side of the road 😂 I've had a few sketchy moments. Most recent was pushing Yerba a month ago my first time descending it on a bike and I overshot a decreasing radius corner a bit. Better to just not take chances.
@andrewstringer5836
@andrewstringer5836 3 ай бұрын
You know you're doing it right when Phil compliments your descending at the Oregon Gran Fondo. Ask me how I know. Cheers!
@x0xc19
@x0xc19 3 ай бұрын
If you really want to master descending, take up downhill mountain biking! Some tips: - Get your butt off the saddle when cornering. Sitting on the saddle mid corner is terrible technique (most roadies do this). - Eyes up at all times. Fast eyes = fast cornering. Hands on the drops. - Do NOT push on the inside handlebar when cornering! You will lose traction on the front tires. Neutral weight on the bars. - Lean the bike but do NOT lean with it. This is not a motorcycle! Most of the weight transfer should be straight down from your hips to the bottom bracket and pedals. - Trail braking mid corner is perfectly fine once you become an advanced descender.
@cadumgarcia
@cadumgarcia 3 ай бұрын
How will you lean the bike if you don´t lightly steer with the inside. All the weight on the pedal will probably keep back and front tires loaded.
@x0xc19
@x0xc19 3 ай бұрын
You lean using your hips. You want the tires to be loaded at the right angle.
@chuckhunter77
@chuckhunter77 3 ай бұрын
There's a beautiful little hill in my town that's perfect for descending. It's 12%, it's straight, there's no driveways, and the asphalt is in beautiful condition. Unfortunately it's only about a mile long. We do what we can here in Ohio.
@ianriley2300
@ianriley2300 3 ай бұрын
You'll have to hit up PA or WV
@Jinisanickname
@Jinisanickname 3 ай бұрын
I could use some gravel descending tips. I presume a lot of the same applies but it’s much more difficult (for me) to judge how much grip there is and how fast is safe. Seems like it’s better to stay on hard packed dirt and avoid taking the same out-in-out style lines.
@johnschmidt2766
@johnschmidt2766 3 ай бұрын
Yeah tell me about it as the edge of the road is getting closer and closer! Loose gravel is a nightmare, and I am still practicing. So far what has seemed to help is to try to corner like a mountain biker. ( a dropper would be great) . So out of saddle, tilt the bike under you ( in the direction of corner) … like trying to engage your side knobs, then counter-steer to initiate, ride the front wheel maybe (more weight to the front if possible). Of course mountain bikes have like 65 deg head angle so … I don’t know.. practice…. Maybe two wheel slide until you’re off the loose stuff hopefully more firm on the road edge?
@johnfritzen4965
@johnfritzen4965 3 ай бұрын
Love these technique videos!
@clas683
@clas683 3 ай бұрын
Hitting apex after 2/3’s brings more safety margin and can create more speed out when you can start pedaling sooner.
@larrybryon9444
@larrybryon9444 3 ай бұрын
I’m constantly getting speed wobbles at around 38ish mph. Bike has been checked professionally so it’s definitely me. When it does start I grab the top tube with my knees Wich helps stop it but I feel like I just get nervous now knowing it’s going to happen. Any tips??
@JNorth87
@JNorth87 3 ай бұрын
Familiarity is probably what will make anyone the fastest down a descent. Having done it before is worth liek 10% speed.
@marcelmarkov3500
@marcelmarkov3500 3 ай бұрын
Nail compliment
@Mysiamesecatblue
@Mysiamesecatblue 2 ай бұрын
Gotta protect those rotors or disc breaks by not breaking on the turns
@rayF4rio
@rayF4rio 3 ай бұрын
Reducing tire pressure to 100 psi in the rain. Yeah, that was a real thing. Seems laughable now.
@davidsullivan7290
@davidsullivan7290 3 ай бұрын
I still remember a group ride from about 25 years ago. Other guy was pumping up his tires and one blew; it literally sounded like a gun shot. He was putting 140 psig in them!
@mettflow2648
@mettflow2648 3 ай бұрын
@@davidsullivan7290king
@Peter-Warton
@Peter-Warton 3 ай бұрын
I mean pinch flats were real! Tires have come a long, long way since those 120psi 20mm days.
@anthonylarsen2757
@anthonylarsen2757 3 ай бұрын
Phil. I recently wanted to re-listen to your great podcast interview with Peter Walker but all the episodes older than the Tour Unchained stuff don't appear on any platform I've tried. Anywhere I can listen to the please? Thank you
@titaniumterri9233
@titaniumterri9233 3 ай бұрын
Good stuff and very useful👍🏾
@jshwlff
@jshwlff 3 ай бұрын
Knee in or not knee in, that is the question. Which is nobler?
@barryrobbins7694
@barryrobbins7694 3 ай бұрын
Also, counterbalance by sticking the knee out on the inside of the turn.
@roadkill_toronto
@roadkill_toronto 3 ай бұрын
You also crashed that one time at the top of the hill. 😉
@pompeymonkey3271
@pompeymonkey3271 3 ай бұрын
Interesting that track riders put their weight on the inside bar, rather than the outside. Of course they can't chose which side to put their weight on the pedals though...
@julianallen515
@julianallen515 3 ай бұрын
Phil, what system weight did you base your 50 psi on?
@Rocketogre
@Rocketogre 3 ай бұрын
Phil: you should probably run lower tire pressures. Me, excited headed to Silca's calculator. Nope, still a very large human. 98psi :(
@zikaperic2133
@zikaperic2133 3 ай бұрын
cool she keeps u in check
@AKandfriends-yt2yz
@AKandfriends-yt2yz 3 ай бұрын
put news paper in your vest and pull out on the descent keep you warm
@heyangst6159
@heyangst6159 3 ай бұрын
Great video
@TimR123
@TimR123 3 ай бұрын
Emily is a good sport putting up with this 🙂 But, I came here to say I'm not a fan of your brake use advice. It's not in the stupid category (actually had an announcer at a big event tell everyone to stay off the front brake on the hill so they don't OTB. Yikes, that's bad general advice in the hills) But, for anybody dexterous enough to think about their hands separately (I know some people aren't), I really think it is better to treat them as a paired system. Use both TOGETHER for braking as the baseline. Under various circumstances (sand, water, turns, etc.) one may prefer to use one over the other and that's fine. But by making synchronized use your practiced pattern, you have maximum braking available in the unfortunate case that you need it.
@dfbdf3324
@dfbdf3324 3 ай бұрын
Always take descending advice from a climber :)
@davezzzz172
@davezzzz172 3 ай бұрын
Excellent video -- thanks, guys! (Although, as a "Boomer," I do ride 23 mm tires at 120 psi -- but, then again, so does God . . .).
@worstretirementever
@worstretirementever 3 ай бұрын
if you're not on tubeless/wider tires as is the new trend/tech, that is correct! Every time I pump my bike and have to stop before 90 it feels weird
@ERIK31351
@ERIK31351 3 ай бұрын
Going as fast as possible downhill is single-handedly why I am a cyclist. But I assume that precludes me from being within the "normal" people category this video was targeted at.
@FrozenCarnitas
@FrozenCarnitas 3 ай бұрын
Hell yeah. Same. 🤙
@worstretirementever
@worstretirementever 3 ай бұрын
I'm glad I got that out of my system in bike races, but I completely understand
@sandrochiavaro7831
@sandrochiavaro7831 3 ай бұрын
She totally deserves a car!
@massimoserafini8115
@massimoserafini8115 3 ай бұрын
Did Emily really think you crashed? Asking for a friend.
@TarmacSkin
@TarmacSkin 3 ай бұрын
How many pairs of sunglasses Phil has? Possibly nobody will ever know…
@veritas1677
@veritas1677 3 ай бұрын
Bat out of hades technique. PR’s.
@Mysiamesecatblue
@Mysiamesecatblue 2 ай бұрын
From pro biker to avid KZbinr to actor?
@TimR123
@TimR123 3 ай бұрын
"That's some boomer shit. The answer to what pressure to run is 'less than you think'" ROFL (yeah gen-zers, ask your parents what that means)
@tonyjames5444
@tonyjames5444 3 ай бұрын
Unless you're a racer I really don't see the point in going flat out downhill, it's maximum risk for minimum gain. The risks far outweigh the benefits and for what? trying to copy pros who not only have the skill but the assurance that the road is closed to oncoming traffic and there are no potholes. Maximise your efforts going uphill and on the flat.
@EGregorio78
@EGregorio78 3 ай бұрын
I think Im not Tom Pidcock, but I gotta check my ID first
@worstretirementever
@worstretirementever 3 ай бұрын
you just never know honestly
@justliberty4072
@justliberty4072 3 ай бұрын
Check your bank account
@velocybirr
@velocybirr 2 ай бұрын
05:25 slept on the sofa that night, did you?
@joehopfield
@joehopfield 3 ай бұрын
Your everesting descents were ripped (if straight).
@worstretirementever
@worstretirementever 3 ай бұрын
the 2nd attempt was full speed but had some tight turns, which I think was part of why i fell apart...underestimated the physical and mental toll of driving the bike down that
@anneschalk652
@anneschalk652 3 ай бұрын
Wait, don’t we always ask?! Isn’t that why you all mansplain so much?!? 😜
@veritas1677
@veritas1677 3 ай бұрын
Chick kinda cute.
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