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[@giaholmed2626]

We have created too many safe spaces for the ill-intentioned and the misinformed. You don’t get to vote away my daughter’s rights and be coddled. The baseline of conversation is being able to state your idea and support it with fact 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@user-zz4wr2hm1y]

This!🎉😂❤

[@user-qu2gp8mw9u]

It's incredible how willing people are to support their own oppression🤦‍♀️🤷‍♀️

[@aaydrian]

Ms Tennessee: What about policy? Nobody wants to talk about Policies Themis: Name some of these policies? Ms Tennessee: ¿Que? No hable ingles. 😂

[@teal1010]

People that are voting for Trump think the same! As long as he does something that benefits them they won’t acknowledge the policies that will hurt them and others! That’s exactly how he gets their vote!

[@teal1010]

Even if an underage or any age victim of incest or grape got an “ubortshun”, NOTHING alleviates her pain and suffering! Being forced to carry the child is a living nightmare!

[@janinegodsdaughter9020]

I hope to engage in a respectful dialogue. Let me clearly state that if the victimized child's health or life is being threatened I do support "medical emergency abortion" as a lifesaving procedure. My other thought when I'm considering both victims (the impregnated child and the unborn growing one) is there a way to save both lives and cause the least amount of discomfort possible to the victimized child. The method that would cause this child the least amount of pain and impact even if that was considering the child being born at an earlier time for the sake of the victimized child's physical and mental health. I understand that carrying the growing child in the womb may be too much for the mental and physical well being to the child and a "medical emegency abortion" may be the only option. I agree that the Perpetrator violation of this child has cause unspeakable pain and a domino effect that will impact her entire life whether she has an abortion or carries the child. Ultimately, prevention needs to be added to both parties agenda as a way to help reduce these heinous and repulsive crimes against children. There is an organization called "Futures without Violence" that seems like a resource to work towards prevention.

[@teal1010]

@@janinegodsdaughter9020 Preventions and options! The decision, regardless of her age, to have an abortion, regardless of the circumstances, is also an option. It’s called a choice!

[@janinegodsdaughter9020]

@@teal1010 Choice is limited when it comes to a person hurting themselves i.e "cutting their own body" to harm themselves OR when the woman is carrying Now another human life. Once a Life begins, the growing human has a right to live. We also wouldn't allow a person to hurt their own bodies. There are exceptions for medical and health reasons and for r*p* cases where "medical emergency" abortion may need to be done. But people having "consensual sex" and using Abortion like birth control should NEVER be an option since ANOTHER GROWING Human Life is being murdered. **P.S. I'm glad that we agree about the need to use more PREVENTIVE METHODS as that is one of my main focus on how to help in this fight to protect ALL innocent lives as much as possible.**

[@keyakokopop]

@@janinegodsdaughter9020I have to respectfully disagree. The mental pain that the child will have to go through by having to give birth and raise the child will far outweigh the physical pain of childbirth. It is a choice. If she chooses to terminate the pregnancy, there needs to be services to assist her. It’s as if you’re ok with punishing the victim for what the abuser did to her.

[@zebibtekle4889]

​@janinegodsdaughter9020 I don't believe you understand or care what the victim would be dealing with. It's cruel to force a child to carry because of your belief. It actually makes sense given that God is vengeful.

[@Carameldoll85]

That lady talking about changing her vote based on black male issues that then spiraled into the abortion issues, was pitiful. She sounds TOO OLD to be so uneducated. You can tell she’s the EXACT kind of person who only thinks what she thinks because of what she was taught growing up. It sounds like she has NEVER and I mean NEVER, given any real thought based on facts and logic as to why she believes what she believes and that’s terrifying.

[@BMWF2023]

BMW is dangerous.

[@CheekyLovesCheeseCake.]

As someone who was raised as what you just described, that's EXACTLY what it is. I had to do a *LOT* of reading, researching, soul searching, and distancing myself from my upbringing to break free from that pattern of "thinking". When you are raised in an environment where your thoughts and feelings are *given* to you (parents who "think" for you, tell you how you feel) versus being given healthy space to explore your own identity, what we heard from the bible thumping caller is the result. And yes, the elders in my family also used the bible to manipulate and control. Only their way, was the right way. Only what they knew, was the correct knowledge. It is a destructive and problematic way of thinking.

[@LAW-Nineteen]

She opened the convo with centering black males. It was over for me

[@TW-in4uv]

One of the women saying IDK a lot and then having very strong opinions

[@ElementalWitchn]

Girl... 🤦🏾‍♀️ She done heard somebody say something on that one show that one time. 🤣

[@respectfullyg5580]

Its like two of them

[@kyeshia207]

Last two ladies are really showing that most people who are voting for Trump are ignorant on a lot of things and they’re making a very ignorant choice, they made my head hurt

[@user-zz4wr2hm1y]

The one that kept referring to what she was told and spewing misinformation was so sad. She has the time to come up and argue but no time to read a single policy. Even the way she determined her voting locally shows she has no idea how it works when she is still voting for senators and congressman that are against her best interest casting a vote for her as a woman. She doesnt know about a straight ticket or split ticket and Themis won't call her out but I will. The way she couldn't explain a thing she was saying out of her own mouth is scary.

[@ElementalWitchn]

@@kyeshia207 they said they're not like other black girls 😆

[@sudanwelch4496]

"They're using science and not jesus" I love you Themis. I really admire your patience and your ability to reason with unthinking folks.

[@ElementalWitchn]

OMG I hollered!!! 😭🤣🤣🤣 Not Science V Jesus sandals 🤣

[@TheWildWahine]

Some of these callers (Christian lady and military woman for Tenn) are extremely LOW information voters. It’s sad.

[@catmouse2882]

Extremely low information is an understatement...The level of sheer ignorance was next level.

[@Carameldoll85]

It’s low intelligence as well. I’m just being honest. Both of them are the perfect examples of uneducated people deciding to stand 10 toes down in their uneducated being when confronted when the chance to engage in REAL thought theory and upgrade their mind. The majority of people are like this and that’s why shit is the way it is. That second lady was nothing but a Bible thumper with absolutely nothing else going on in her head. It’s DANGEROUS.

[@ElementalWitchn]

​@@catmouse2882and Ms military lady was the first one to say " we need to talk about policy"😂 She thought she was going to skate through this conversation bc she is not like other black girls. 🤣😂

[@JulyIzHere]

@@ElementalWitchn my parents are in the military and anti republican so i was super shocked with what she was sayin

[@ElementalWitchn]

@@JulyIzHere I was shocked that she had the nerve to accuse us of not knowing policy and she didn't even know it. Fix it Jesus. Gone are the days that you can be 'not like other black girls' just bc you vote Republican.

[@teal1010]

She wasn’t attempting to argue! She was trying to get her “solution narrative” out there!

[@ElementalWitchn]

@@teal1010 not a solution narrative 😆

[@teal1010]

@@ElementalWitchn 💯Exactly!

[@joeshmoe0136]

2:49 Its a shame that this important political conversation was derailed by an argument about God's will. It was "God's will" that anti democracy protests stormed a government building and threatened the lives of serving politicians. Have we all forgotten that?

[@alyssajchase]

I'm sad about Joe :( but will support Kamala all the way! She can do this.

[@Happymind-happyworld.]

Nah Joe had to go. He is a smart man but nature is forcing him into retirement. While Trump is somehow still healthy even with his terrible eating habits 😢

[@teal1010]

Saying “I’m open to learn” sounds good, but if you make decisions without gathering information about the topic YOU ABSOLUTELY ARE NOT OPEN TO LEARN! You’re open to repeat, like a parrot and follow like sheep!

[@shonab36]

I have learned so much today! Thank you Themis!!

[@CheekyLovesCheeseCake.]

Seriously! This is 1 of the 3 YT channels that I watch where I feel like I actually grow intellectually ❤

[@636racer]

1:50:42 for someone who is rude & wont let the host run his show, & have very little knowledge on how IVF work she seems too ignorant to have a hard stance on this

[@Soy__Milk]

I’m so glad you did this live despite the hit to your algorithm

[@keyakokopop]

⁠again, it’s the woman/girl’s choice which you are ok with taking away. I’m not going to put my child through something she doesn’t want to go through, especially when she was taken advantage of. But you’re ok with letting your child suffer through that along with the years of mental anguish from the harm done, that’s on you.

[@karina-annen]

I'm voting blue, no matter who!💙

[@yazzy6860]

My pick is absolutely not Trump #kamalaforpres

[@lovinglisa3205]

Great Live Themis. Love hearing your point of view on politics. So here for it!

[@Sabledoux]

Themis was on 🔥🔥🔥🔥this live.

[@browneyesblackdragon7999]

I'm so happy kamala is running but i am sad about joe. So many ppl were dog piling on him. It was HORRIBLE. How could you expect someone with a stutter to talk about policy in only 1 minute or 2?? But yeah i am happy, nervous, and sad. A mixture of things but this lady would be the first black female president. This is incredible and i know she can win. HARRIS 2024 ❤ the clan is gonna CRASH OUT 😂

[@Kawkaw27]

What stutter do you speak about? I saw Biden perform live for the dsu graduation he was a lively stutter free speech. His current state is a severe health issue. Let’s hope he can spend time resting during his final moments

[@nightstarstar1]

@@Kawkaw27he has a documented stutter. People with stutters don’t always stutter. My daughter has a stutter, it’s not always present.

[@wfrencher80]

I think we need to really understand what potentially could happen this November. We're talking about potentially the FIRST woman president. AND the FIRST black and South asian woman president. Kamala becoming president, what would this mean for our future generation of black girls. This election is important, yall.

[@BMWF2023]

Some blk women are so brainwashed they don't see value in blk girls or their future.

[@BMWF2023]

They think blk girls value is to serve men. This is why BMW is anti BW

[@NothingForYou283]

That lady only claim to be black when it benefits her. She will not change any generation for black girls. Y’all really need to stop being delusional. No disrespect, but it’s the truth.

[@ra1nydr0ps]

what does it mean for black girls since kamala is biracial and not even african american biracial?

[@Miss_Cali]

It means nothing because she clearly stated she's NOT doing anything for black people. She lived a privileged life she CANNOT RELATE

[@rellie_90]

3:22:15 How was she in the military and not believe climate change is real when the U.S military has actively been preparing and anticipating climate change themselves. They’ve known about the climate issues for a while and been spending money to protect the U.S from “things” and I’ll leave it there. Chile…🙄

[@m9978]

Don’t believe all these so called ex military. I’m a Veteran big difference. I did years and been to Afghanistan as a Medic. Anyone who failed out of basic training can be ex military. As a Black Woman and my personal experience in the military. I would never vote for Trump. These BM and BMW are delusional. Criminals can go to jail for all I care. Religion needs to left out of politics. Look what happens in other countries. Many wars are fought, loss of human rights and humanity because people want to impose their religion and personal beliefs on others. If they so concerned about abortion and bc why don’t these people have 12 kids? Someone got an abortion or is using bc. I’m tired of the stupidity. These same broke people crying about they can’t afford food, bills and etc… make it make sense.

[@tinabe717]

How is she in the military and not have a problem with Jan 6th. Like your job is to defend the country and the constitution. An insurrection would be against the country and constitution you defend. Make it make sense.

[@Eva-yj2uj]

Vote blue please 🙏 and lady who explained her view on abor**** made my blood boil. She heartless after the baby is born she probably doesn’t care if it survives 😓

[@LArte30]

How do the Republicans feel about preventing pregnancy AKA contraceptives again?🤔🌚

[@CheekyLovesCheeseCake.]

Exactly! They want to *BAN* birth control pills, IUD's, and Plan B. All which are *prevention* methods. They don't women to have *any* control over their bodies whatsoever.

[@user-zz4wr2hm1y]

This is the topic I wish he brought up with the Ex military uninformed voter

[@denewashington5983]

If Trump brings about the end of the world would a good Christian vote for him whether it’s against their interests?

[@lyah_lilac25]

Here’s the thing: that’s exactly what they want in a roundabout way. I think most are subconsciously (or consciously, depending on the person) trying to speed run the second coming of Christ 🤔🤔

[@TititoDeBologay]

​@@lyah_lilac25 yep with the the war in Palestine the Rapture Christians are frothing at the mouth.

[@TititoDeBologay]

​Yep the Rapture Christian are waiting with bated breath. Thats why they're supporting Israel in the current ethnic cleansing of Palestinians. So the mortiferous prophecy they believe in, can come quickly.

[@Army_Brat1980]

Im voting blue. I wouldnt gaf who it was.

[@ElementalWitchn]

They're using science instead of Jesus 😂😂

[@favegirl13]

America has truly failed its people when it comes to education. The lack of critical thinking, the lack of interrogating ideas, the lack of research. To have strong opinions backed by nothingness is embarrassing. If you cannot stand to have someone interrogate your beliefs and be able to explain and stand in those very beliefs, how can that truly be your belief.

[@CheekyLovesCheeseCake.]

Her whole "we need better laws" talk is useless. We have laws in place for theft, drugs, SA, and just about anything under the sun yet people still commit crimes. Laws don't make people behave nor does it change ones criminal *intent* . We literally have jails and prisons all over the country because people readily break the law. Heck, we even already have *capital punishment* on the books and that *STILL* doesn't deter some people. Saying we need harsher laws to stop R-worders is insulting. That's like telling a DV victim to "just go get a restraining order" when we KNOW restraining orders do virtually nothing if the abuser decides to violate it. At 13 years old, I was alert and cognitively aware. I would NOT have wanted someone else making such a decision *for* me. The young girl in the scenario already lost her innocence, lost her trust, lost her sense of safety, lost her right to say no and NOW you want to strip her of her right to choose? I think TF not! The other flawed part of her arguement is that she is operating from a space of misogyny (she couldn't WAIT to accuse women of being "loose" and wanting absmortion for "inconvenience") and from the belief that everyone believes *her* God.

[@denewashington5983]

Chile

[@ruffledfeatherss719]

How can you claim to be all about intellectual discussions but then get defensive when asked for some backup to your views? What show are you tuning into, sis? 😐 A black republican echoing podcast bros doesn't really cut it in real intellectual debates. Let's keep it real and back up our ideas with some solid evidence, right?

[@MonaMi8]

That caller didn’t know (one of) the shadiest stories in the Bible….It was the story that made me look at the Bible sideways.

[@nmhoskins]

A person's OPINION is not truth!!

[@lkpeace911]

I’ll be voting for Harris. But unfortunately, bm will vote for a ray-cist before they will vote for a woman especially a woman of color so Trump will probably win just like when Hilary ran.

[@catmouse2882]

Bm don't buy homes and they don't vote. No one can rely upon their "vote" 😂 Hell...1/3 of them can't any vote due to their felon status.😂 DeMarcus and Tyrone are a non-mothaf**** factor!!!❤ Harris will win💙 Especially if she picks a yt man as her VP.

[@LArte30]

It definitely seems as though the sector of BM that dislike Kamala actually specifically dislike BW and project their misogynoir to her because of her perceived proximity to BW. Her history as a prosecutor is just a thinly veiled excuse to justify the misogynoir. It's ironic because Kamala is the exact woman that that sector typically elevates above BW.

[@brandond1947]

@lkpeace911 u do realize that a majority of blk male voters don't vote republican right?? Even with this manosphere stuff our numbers of voting republican r less than 15%

[@brandond1947]

@lkpeace911 it's just so weird that wen elections happen and a candidate doesn't win yall will always find away to blame blk men for it

[@spac1289]

Their fight for misogyny is stronger than their fight against racism.

[@BMWF2023]

Those 2 women showed me Christianity leads to BMW which leads to supporting your own oppression but I knew this over 10 years ago smdh.

[@deee3950]

This comment doesn’t help anything. Insulting people doesn’t win vote and it is low vibration

[@BMWF2023]

@@deee3950 You don't understand the difference between an observation and an insult?

[@catmouse2882]

​@deee3950 Those 2 women insulted everyone's intelligence with their babble MAGA nonsense.

[@ra1nydr0ps]

chrisitianity is male worship at least in its king james iteration

[@Miss_Cali]

I'm not voting top of the ticket unless reparations and a black agenda is agreed to. Both parties have no good intentions for us.

[@jamcalpin]

❤

[@BlackNerdist]

Not voting is a vote. Not to mention that it sends the message to the winner that you are not needed and you are not reliable to the loser

[@teal1010]

I would vote for the democratic policies as opposed to republican policies even if the candidates were blind crippled and crazy!

[@Happymind-happyworld.]

This is how I vote nowadays. Anything to keep bigots out of the parliament.

[@brandond1947]

Idk if somebody said it earlier or not but If im not mistaken i think the discourse with "kamala and blk people" came from wen she had her back and forth with Tulsi. Tulsi was stating how Kamala jailed over 300 people with w33d charges had held back info that couldve saved this man from d3ath row. Maybe other stuff cant really remember. I remember that after that debate alot of people weren't sold on her anymore

[@spac1289]

And when Tulsi was asked for her data sources she said it was confidential. Don’t forget that part.

[@brandond1947]

@spac1289 I mean that is true but I'm talkin about the damage in what her statements had done. If I'm not mistaken after that debate her approval rate was lower than what it was going into that debate Tulsi manipulated stats about Harris but it did do damage to her rep

[@ChakaKhanian]

This was a good live. Very politically informative.

[@lgibs666]

Responding to the caller who spoke about conditions in NYC. Yes, there are issues with migrants in SOME neighborhoods - particularly those with existing populations that mirror where recent migrants are coming from. Look up the Right To Shelter Law to understand how they are getting housing. Look up NYC Human Resources Administration to understand what social services they (and others) may be eligible for. I can’t speak for all of NYC but there’s been an uptick in quality of life issues in my neighborhood. There are more street vendors selling everything, people setting up “restaurants” on sidewalks everywhere, and just more activity day and night. I would not use Cash Jordan’s channel as an authority on what’s happening throughout the city. He focuses on Manhattan, which is a whole different animal from the other four boroughs. I would like to see improvements but it’s going to take changes at the local elected officials level.

[@teal1010]

@1:25:42 “You can choose to be a f…..” I thought you were going to say you can choose to be a fool!

[@SteStarI718]

2 FORMER Attorney Generals in POTUS & VPotus seats would be a priblem for anti-establishment ppl

[@ladyofspa]

Kamala my friend 😂

[@636racer]

2:04:26 themis about to release his inner kevin samuels on this woman 😂

[@636racer]

3:42 facts!!!!!!

[@somebodycomelistentothispo7217]

Kamala is picking Jasmine Crockett or AOC for VP 😆

[@636racer]

22:13 i cant see Harris beating Trump, i could be wrong, i just dont see battle ground states & independents swaying the vote in her favor, but hey the landscape may change in the next few months

[@PoliticallyIncorrect-rq2nn]

Trump.

[@browneyesblackdragon7999]

And please stop saying he has a mental decline. He does not. 🙁 he has a stutter. He's very sharp. If you watch unedited videos of him talking to the press, you'd be able to see that.

[@Kawkaw27]

Unfortunately it is more severe than a stutter. He has major health issues more than most suspect. He is in fact not sharp and quickly losing his mental faculties.

[@gipit33]

Themis I watch you and support your channel, you don't know that most of what you speak on as far as relationships go is basically politics (women's rights) You need a SERIOUS conversation with your viewers

[@nmhoskins]

WE ARE DOOM!!!

[@janinegodsdaughter9020]

PREVENTION RESOURCES to prevent violent crimes. Let's be apart of the solution. The name of the organization is: **Futures Without Violence.** I don't believe youtube will let me share the link.

[@paul_III]

If kamala choose a Republican vp i think she would improve her ratings

[@cmac40]

Those trump supporting calls were scary, not because they support trump necessarily bc honestly if I was protestant WM making at least 400,000 a year I would probably vote for trump also bc it would be in my interest. But it was scary bc she didn't know the "BASICS" of a lot of points she tried to make like how pregnancy works or the difference between voting in a PRIMARY ( where they do ask what party you rep bc you are in sense voting for who will be your QB that will start in the real game(the actual election in NOV). The division of powers why justices are APPOINTED, or not needed the FDA(scary haven't read or heard of "The Jungle". They also sounded at least 35++ (being generous) but too damn old not to find out how this process ACTUALLY works!

[@alyshamorris6275]

Trump voter not Trump “supporter”

[@deee3950]

1:42:39 - saying that oregnancy is a punishment is the issue to your argument. Pro life people WANT there to be programs that support new mothers, no matter the circumstances. Perhaps therapy. Perhaps offering the service of giving the kid up for adoption. So, while I am pro Choice, I believe we should properly represent to argument. - And to the frozen embryos- Sunni Hostin - also said that she would have been fine implanting all of her embryos. So again… start from a place of understanding or leave the topic and thank the lady for voting democrat DESPITE her pro life views.

[@janinegodsdaughter9020]

I have to reply because your comments illustrate how to properly Agree to disagree respectfully. We as a nation must master this skill or as Dr. King stated "get along as brothers or die as fools." While I am Pro Rights for the unborn growing child, you are so right that creating a respectful space for communication is the way to increase your chances of gaining a new supporter.

[@deee3950]

1:29:48 Answer to the question: the mother is at risk and the baby is at risk, WHO SHOULD LIVE? Logic says the baby. A frequent question is this: there is a tsunami, you are a mother of 2 children. One child is 5 years old and the other is 2 years old. You are all getting swept up. You have the chance to grab onto a tree with one hand. You have to let go of one child, who do you pick? The answer is let go of the 5 year old. The 5 yr old if saved will remember. The 2 year old will not remember the loss of a sibling. Same thing. You are a mother and your fetus being born can kill you, you go. The baby won’t remember you. Your partner can remarry. Ultimately, leave it up to the doctors and to the mother IMO

[@nightstarstar1]

Logic says the baby? Who’s logic? That’s not at all logical. As a mother if the fetus can kill me the fetus should go.

[@Carameldoll85]

Absolutely the fuck not.

[@joeshmoe0136]

Who will raise the baby?

[@BMWF2023]

The baby cannot live without the mother until at least 5 months....that's why science doesn't consider it a human until it can live without the mother.

[@hisghettopointofview]

Would love to debate you Themis.... Any day

[@ThemisThoth]

@@hisghettopointofview about what? We can set something up for Wednesday

[@hisghettopointofview]

@@ThemisThoth has the tradition of black ppl predominantly voting for the Democratic party been a net negative or net positive for the national black community based on the results of said voting for several decades....

[@ThemisThoth]

@@hisghettopointofview let’s do it on Wednesday at 7:30pm est. please confirm and email me at [e-mail] for the link

[@NothingForYou283]

I’m not voting for Kamala at all. I don’t care.

[@Flowers4YourMind]

I hope you're happy now and can finally get off Biden's back. Your favorite political Pookie is free to make the nation a single baby mama!