Is Subterranean Subway The City Saver In Cities Skylines 2!

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

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[@hairlokk8672]

Whats the mod called that u could hover over sims to see what they do and such?

[@EcardEcardian]

For me I always build subway underground. Like it is the only transportation in my citites that does not have stop for other traffic. It helps a ton to have subway for a big city.

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

Good idea :-)

[@EcardEcardian]

@@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines Indeed.

[@biswajitpattanaik5800]

Same for me underground for subways!

[@blechtic]

I mean... it's in the name. If it is elevated, we should call it "superway" and I guess if it's ground level, it's just "way" ...though we can prefix it with "rail".

[@lg.studio]

how about merging the 2 subway lines into 1? I don't get why many Cities Skylines players make A->B connections only instead of the more realistic A>B>C> ... X>Y>Z many stop public transport systems. Just take a look at any big European city public structure infrastructure, and get isnpired. Nice build though. I love to follow along the build.

[@bobblebardsley]

Someone always says this and if he does it the other way, someone always says "Why make it A>B>C>X>Y>Z? Any big city has A>B connections."

[@stephenclark9917]

Also need Z>Y>X ... C>B>A. Many do not do this, especially for buses.

[@InsomniacDream88]

​@@bobblebardsley Nobody mentions elemenopy (LMNOP)

[@nicktecky55]

@@InsomniacDream88 I hear they can treat that these days, still painful though.

[@daniel1998729]

I asked the same question like a year before, and Biffa actually replied my comment, saying he played CS for over 1000 hours, and he just knew it works. That's why I unsubscribed him😂 (I just checked it, it's in the comment section of the video published on May 7, 2023🤭)

[@dalearends4216]

The underground electrical connection color is the black line. Blue and yellow are pipes, fresh water is blue and sewage is yellow.

[@SeregaKRYL]

The tram was too far from the station. If you moved the tram close to the station, the metro would not be needed.

[@marchutch]

I was today years old when Biffa showed me that dogs can ride the bus in CS2. That was a good moment that made me think of the many times I have ridden the bus with my dog. Thank you Biffa.

[@Aeonsoulful]

If the problem with the water being polluted persists you could just alter the amount of ground water on the map and eliminate it from the industry areas. Loving how the city is shaping up as well, looking Great!!!

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

Thank you @Aeonsoulful :-)

[@blechtic]

Isn't that cheating?

[@marcuskintz]

31:05 I DID talk about pedestrian access to that bus area... but about how it's so close to the school behind it, with no access. I think that would add some passengers/happy cims as well!

[@jespergaa]

You should merge the two subways. And, the subway and train should not travel between the same stops. The subway should go to another place on the other side of the river to give more coverage

[@CouchPotator]

this is Biffa we're talking about, he always runs multiple public transit trunk lines in parallel and uses lower capacity spurs to connect everything else, and wonders why his busses are overflowing and his trains are empty.

[@SeregaKRYL]

But subway between the railway stations is probably a good idea (volume wise). I'd suggest going on the ground also - it's empty space between the districts anyway

[@RyanBabic-wx3io]

Sadly you didn't show a final homeless count! Nice subway work!!

[@oiDani42]

I love getting to the point where I add subways to my cities. They always seem more efficient with the amount of space they take up and the number of people they help move around.

[@JDKempton]

Watching citizens moving about is mesmerizing 👍

[@sparkymarky68]

city looking great. two small points i think - i think you added two side walks to each side to your alley for the bus. Also - sure its been said - just remove the water or break it up so its not all connected underground....if that makes sense. Then you wont have mass poisoning :)

[@shadowhunter0]

if you put lights on the highway it not only helps with lowering traffic accidents at night I believe but also puts power lines under them so you can use them to help connect up your power in your city plus highways in cities usually have lights also you can connect underground path ways up to the underground subway stations fyi its where there traffic lights and stop signs are at if you don't know where it is at

[@MrSu]

Cims usually can use shoulders as sidewalks. There might be a comfort penalty that with the current walking distance to any destitaion from the bus station added up to the cims picking other modes of transport that have a higher comfort score and/or a shorter travel time

[@blechtic]

I like the way a bunch of dogs were riding the train apparently on their own.

[@MarcPi]

I think the alley with sidewealk you've done for the bus have the sidewalk and a shoulder each side, so double the needed lanes. You can delete the external shoulders and probably will be 1 unit wide and fit perfectly. Also, I'm a train man, always build train lines, subways almost never.

[@Cities-By-Maps]

I hope we can have the ability to build elevated metro station's and tack above the road along the full length of the road because that would be a game changer and it would look great in a Chicago inspired city and any down town area in any city. 😊

[@StefanTucker]

You can already build elevated tracks above roads, but they do have to veer off to connect to an elevated station. So, it's **almost** like Chicago. ;-)

[@Cities-By-Maps]

@@StefanTucker yeah its a shame we can't build elevated metro station's above road's yet but I hope we can soon.😊

[@SortieCat]

Why is the subway line split at the central station? That would be super annoying as a commuter going between the two city centers. The line could just be extended with extra trains. Most of the traffic issues here were due to the transits being super inconvenient for people :)

Dear Biffa - just wanted to say that I've been watching your CS vids for years now and always enjoy them very much, despite being lazy about likes and all that. I also love City Planner Plays, two dollars twenty, and Infrastructurist, but for different reasons. I bet they all do a scream emoji at some of your cities (lol), but I really like (and appreciate) the way you engage with the mechanics of transport and economy in a very practical and pragmatic way. Typically British perhaps?

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

Glad you like them, thanks for the feedback. I watch them all too! :-)

[@SiqueScarface]

I usually don't use subways - for aesthetic reasons. You can't watch subways the way you can watch trains and trams and busses.

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

You can if you put them above ground! ;-)

[@kaltaron1284]

@@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines Then they aren't really subways though but above ground metro.

[@CouchPotator]

@@kaltaron1284 no, they are still called subways even above ground

[@kaltaron1284]

@@CouchPotator In some cases they are called that but stricly speaking both are a category of Rapid transit or mass rapid transit (MRT), commonly referred to as metro.

[@jespergaa]

You should edit the busrute from the train station to the city. Not a need for that route when you have the metro

[@unkl115]

The reason for your horkey borkey sidewalks on your alley is because you also have shoulders on the road. I ran into the same problem just today. Did the same thing.

[@thecozies]

Check out the All Abord mod! its a bug fix that helps when too many people get clogged up at a transportation stop and the train/subway/etc can't leave

[@JailbreakTips]

the underground station having a fence on half of the sides is pretty dumb. it should be open on all sides!

[@renekorner1791]

I always put underground entrances for subways and additional underground pathways on the other roadside. Lesser people blocking traffic by crossing the roads.

[@Lilianne8]

Biffa & CS2 content, yes please! Please show us what you ended up doing at the bus station/roundabout. I think there should be a more direct connection for the cims coming from each side, too. Maybe behind it too?

[@ptterz]

Can we please give a shoutout to Biffa's sponsor ads? Generally I am heavily annoyed by any ads within videos but somehow Biffa manages to make them tolerable and entertaining! Kudos

[@giulgazza]

The problem with overloaded electrical lines is easy to solve by adding a transformer in the new area and connecting it to the high voltage system

[@noidea7695]

Adding a train station and a metro station going to the exact same pIace is the definition of redundancy. Both perform the exact same thing, so you shouId decide to remove one and Ieave the other. In my opinion, remove the newest metro station and Ieave the train Iine as it was.

[@danielaltmann8493]

Hahaha.... Tipical Biffa.... "Lets build a metro" then a minute later "let's extend the metro" so what's logical? Extend the line? No! Get a new one in! 😅😅

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

Well.... you need two or you ain't going anywhere.... 😅

[@RedBullishTrading]

At 9:10 you can hover your mouse over the visual display of the route and it will show how many people are waiting at that stop. You can visually see the white circle get filled in to a dark blue (line color) if people are waiting at that stop.

[@RedBullishTrading]

Example at 15:24 look at the left side the yellow route. Too and bottom circles. The top one is pretty yellow, hover your mouse over it to see how many people are waiting at that stop.

[@RedBullishTrading]

Also at 28:01 you max out trains for that route. There is a mod that allows more per line!!! (Forgot the name lol)

[@andrewmay9927]

I think the reason for the cims choosing subway is the ticket price

[@wilkoufert8758]

The metro station in woodland cold be changed to an overground in the place of the pedestrian bridge. This would give you an excuse for a light rail bridge over the river, going underground only next to autumn industrial park, which irl would make for a very scenic ride

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

Nice idea :-)

[@AshRuv]

I love how they do it in London, some tube station ate underground, some on the ground and some above. Its a nice mix that makes a city unique IMHO. An all under sub like NYC's is probably the easiest to build but it gives less historic feel.

[@christopherjunkins]

Well, in the UK at least, People LOVE the Tube, right? 🤣

[@EdwardM-t8p]

Biffa, it is always advantageous to extend subways to high density areas or areas designated for future high density.

[@anthonyewell3470]

Biffa you forgot to check homelessness at the end to see if your changes had an impact

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

I was judging it mote by yhe visuals of thousands of homeless stood at train stations 👍

[@christopherjunkins]

@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines There's a mod that lets you assign train numbers I think, if I recall correctly...(more than allowed... but it may have been just how many on each train)

[@ryancomfy]

Hey KZbin, I want to see more vids like this. Get it sorted! Thanks Biffa :)

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

:-)

[@carriegarrisonvos4433]

I love the subway. I think it's rather underated myself!! It does it's job brilliantly!! Super good work Biffa!! I couldn't believe the numbers riding the subway 😲🤩

[@WhiskeyHunterVAT69]

transport updates make for a fun build. Ty for the VOD. 🥃🥃

[@cooper3064]

might need to get the "All aboard" mod. It caps public transport dwell time and is great for a busy service.

[@JailbreakTips]

I usually wait to build a subway once I have well over 100,000 people. usually past the 200,000 people mark. I feel like any cities smaller than 100K realistically would not get a subway

[@Suunn_shine]

"Let's find a homeless person that we can check out.." I was using this video as background audio while getting some things done, but this suddenly pulled me back to watching haha.

[@Nico2708.]

A sip of tea and a new video from Biffa.... Wonderful 😌🍵

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

Hope you enjoy! :-)

[@bobblebardsley]

Not a complaint because I love your vids but I also love watching you detail an area so when it's compressed into a 10-second 'detailing timelapse' (even if it's just a few tables and chairs) I feel like I've missed out. Maybe it's just me but I've always enjoyed the creativity of bringing an area to life more than the admin of balancing the transit. I think you do a really good job of having vids that do both though so this is really just to say that I love the "let's build a thing" vids.

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

Thanks for the feedback 👍

[@skylar4678]

I love subways. Always nice and busy 🤩

[@MonkeyOnFleek]

Im the kind of player who likes to see things in action so i almost always use the above ground subway stations xD

[@mertbegzati62]

I did not know what to comment but ofc i want to see more videos so here i am typing this during the VPN part

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

Thanks for the comment 👍

[@CallMeInfinite0000]

My gripe with the metro tracks is that you can't have level crossings.

[@aaronpaul5990]

.. i really dislike that they have to walk the full length of the parking lot to just get anywhere from the bus ... the bustop design is lovely but the placement is a usage nightmare :p

[@netkitten]

I will forever be asking Colossal Order to give us combination above and below ground subways on the same line until we actually get them. :( Here in Boston we have them and they work great. Some lines start above ground, go along the roads, and then go underground in the city... with others start underground and go above ground as they leave the city.

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

You can do that already, unless I'm not understanding you?

[@highlorddarkstar]

@@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylinesI think he means using railroad right of way to run the subways as well. In the older American systems they all tend to be the same gauge and they’ll run freight during off hours through the subway rails and run subway cars out to suburban train stations. It’s a different conceptual attitude than CS2 is using, a sort of “universal” rail system.

[@SmRndm]

Loving the CS2 content. Keep up the videos. Looking forward to the next one 😊😊

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

Thanks :-)

[@macaidwin]

I think you can add an extra platform to the trainstation

[@DrakeGamer85]

I have a suggestion, Biffa - give the people of New Brewburgh a Tea Garden! It is time they had a place of peace and tranquility for having a lovely cuppa, sipping it down while enjoying the sway of the trees and chirping of the birds. Or possibly near the railway lines, so if they are avid trainspotters who love teas as well, its a perfect place to see trains and a nice brew! In anycase, loving the new subway network. Only one thing to say about it, and you know what it is, Biffa! I've said it many times: FAN-SIPPING-TASTIC!!! 🫖

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

Thank you @DrakeGamer85 and great idea :-)

[@MuhammadNurulIslam]

although it makes sense for realism, these subway and train depots are really a pain :D

[@senffabrik4903]

Water Blue Sewer Yellow Cable Black in the middle. Seems like an update.

[@Shwafta]

For your power surge problem, I see you're not really building any transformers!! You need to build a transformer for various zones and that way the high voltage can take the brunt of the power transfer and then the low voltage power lines you can use to distribute to the various zones within.

[@SavageDiffguy]

the powerline color is your mod to change the color of your screen to dark. instead of the bright white that always happens.

[@cr4zynut]

Not one to comment much, just wanna say love your videos every time. Brings the urge with it to play C:S2 myself again each time :D

[@onieyoh9478]

Needs a Goodyear blimp.

[@WiltonMunchmeyer-x9x]

Klocko Expressway

[@owais221186]

Make a express bus service from train station to the bus terminal

[@alexandermieske797]

1m sidewalk. Yes, that sounds very safe in an area with high car traffic density. 😀

[@jameshg1900]

Realistic though, you should have a walk round my town.

[@alexandermieske797]

@@jameshg1900 I know. same here 😀

[@craigmoulton8268]

So now that you added those subway lines, can you now rebalance the bus lines to free up available vehicles?

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

👍

[@knochenkotzer2461]

So they remove unwanted people by train?! xD

[@jameshg1900]

Hahahahaaa.

[@stevengalloway8052]

"There are so many people wanting to leave the city." The homeless hate your city, Biffa... 😆

[@name1233]

Biffa make a town that looks odd from the city and unique

[@chrisdavid6892]

maybe remove the shoulders and keep or widen ur sidewalks. u can end up people blocking each other causing sin traffic jams

[@vincenthundt8502]

Stay on the path = lord of the rings

[@EternalGamingNet]

Loving life and transit!

It always was. I never understood why you and City Planner never used subways in both CS games.

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

I did, a lot :-)

[@simongeard4824]

He used them all the time. Just look at the many-tentacled abomination appearing in some of the New Tealand videos... ;-)

[@curtishustace]

I noticed that at the train station off Empire street, all the people stay on the sidewalk until the train arrives then bolt across the platform to get on the train, instead of waiting on the actual platform??

[@stevennoyes2684]

Nice Vid. 🙂

[@cern1999sb]

At the train station, why don't the citizens wait on the platform?

[@ErnestConlan-z8b]

Bailey Divide

[@sadbear101]

Why is nobody visiting this great city? Starting to think you need some tourist traps!

[@TheMikelleh]

That train station is buggy……everyone is waiting on the sidewalk instead of the platform.

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

🤔

[@jaker2542]

I guess streamers get special versions of the game or mods that dont cause crashes.

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

Nope, we put a lot of work in making sure we keep our PC's in top shape and all the mods and everything are the correct ones and bang up to date 👍

[@stephenclark9917]

Yes, because it is in CO interests to keep the good stuff away from paying customers! Some people.

[@rafjolie2198]

The powerlines 😭

[@jim99ful]

Great Video Biffa, thanks for all the tips and tricks

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

No problem 👍

[@Aliksander54]

There seems to be an inordinate number of dogs in your city.

[@ecybernard-com]

Mine has far more

[@hanselot76]

550 homeless people in a city with 55000 inhabitants is actually quite a lot... :D

[@fileupdates]

woohoo, a new episode :)

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

Enjoy :-)

[@rahulankola6960]

BUILD MORE HIGH DENSITY!!

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

WORKING ON IT 👍

[@paulgroen6902]

🎉

[@drworm73]

👍

[@DarkWoodsPresents]

Just like Real Life where Mayors and City officials want homeless people to LEAVE the city.

[@Cberk03]

Why do they wait for the train on the sidewalk when there's such a larger area

[@WillyLangley]

Nice Video!

[@brandonchat]

@biffa, at the intro you zoom in on a cross section. why did u close off the sidewalk for the pedestrians with a fence? :p :)

[@MrKristijanP]

Finaly subway

[@gwaeron8630]

Paying the dog tax to access the subway.

[@rileywhetstone1755]

Thanks you for another great video. 👍

[@mikehellert9099]

Well the homeless in my city of 700k I have 40k homeless. I let my game run for 8 hours and the homeless didn't change much.

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

They need lots of ways to leave the city 👍

[@mikehellert9099]

@@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines I have a bunch of ways for them to leave the city though. All my bus routes link up at the buss stop station . I have a line going to the airport and cruise ship. I have 4 lines going out of the city . Along with train lines. Hmmm....

[@jabcmw1]

Final homeless number?

[@14Penfold88]

Hi Biffo

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

Hi :-)

[@sheldonmayhew6053]

Which mods do you use Biffa?

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

Full list on discord 👍

[@sheldonmayhew6053]

@@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines Thanks 🙏