Big 12 Power Rankings: BYU Fallout, Kansas Top-Three, Deion Sanders Dips, Arizona State, Texas Tech?

[@BrentNielsen]

BYU fan here thanks Drake another great podcast. Honestly we were originally only picked to win four games this year so I’m really happy that we’ve done so well and to see the blue BYU icon ranked ahead of the red Utah icon makes me extremely happy and I’m also a big 12 fan. I love the big 12 it’s so cool to see the Arizona state at the top when they were at the bottom of the beginning. It’s such a cool conference I’m really excited for basketball season. Keep up the good work thanks.

[@clanski1634]

Great perspective on the season.

[@leroywicks3277]

Drake Iowa State is an original Big 8 Member and is having a historic year. Please give them some shine. It's a great story.

[@stacers902]

You’re either misunderstanding some things or you just really hate Arizona State. The only way an ASU win over Arizona would not result in a B12 title game appearance is if Colorado, Iowa State, Baylor, Texas Tech and Cincinnati win their last game AND Houston beats BYU. That’s it. You also failed to mention that if all 4 teams tied at 2 conference loses win this weekend.. it’s Arizona State v. Iowa State.

[@gabrielyardley6063]

Asu wins tiebreaker with Colorado

[@turinturambar347]

The curse of KU. You return 20 starters from a 9 win team and the stars align for you to make a run, but half of your coaching staff gets poached and it takes half a season for the team to adjust to new schemes and for the QB to knock off the rust. Additionally, you’re told before the season that you have the easiest schedule in the Big XII because you avoid Utah and OSU and a couple others. But then it ends up you have the toughest conference schedule in the league YET AGAIN. I swear, the best hope you have as a fan for your program to turn its’ fortunes around is schedule KU. You will exceed expectations. The football gods have it out for KU.

[@BrentNielsen]

Honestly, I would rather be in the big 12 any day than the SEC. This is the best conference.

[@SvdSinner]

Baylor at 2 shows how much of a homer you are. Baylor played their best against Iowa State and got hammered. Baylor is not above the Cyclones

[@turinturambar347]

Power Rankings just says how they are now. Yes the whole season matters, but recent play matters too. Right now Baylor is playing much better. Maybe even better than KU. That should be a fun game.

[@jimreeves5212]

Iowa State fan and 25 year season ticket holder. Syd, have you actually watched our games? Utah deserved to win. I hate saying it, but it's true. I/we were at the ku game at Arrowhead. We were dominated. Texas Tech kept giving us chances to win. We said, "No thank you.". I love my beloved Cyclones, but we've been terrible the 2nd half of the season on both sides of the ball. Drake's rankings get no argument from me.

[@artax84z]

No he has been critical of his school and how they have played. But the fact is they have played better this season

[@Randy-j8q]

Baylor didn't play their best game vs Iowa st lol

[@ericoliver1972]

Baylor at 2? I seriously fell off my chair from laughing.

[@Drumwolf62]

LOVE THE PASSION DRAKE!!! GO BIG 12 !!! BOTH THE BIG 10 AND SEC ARE OVER RATED.

[@dalecash2236]

BYU's downfall is it's inability to show up for a whole game. They have talent, but just can't seem to turn it on consistently.

[@RohoSombrero]

It’s injuries, as it’s been every November (with minor exceptions in fortunate years. ) The reason BYU can’t “show up for a whole game” is because a lot of really good players are on the bench and we still don’t have enough depth. It’s getting better but we aren’t there yet. Obviously the coaches aren’t going to say anything and sound like Utah, but we just need more depth and it takes time. Think about all the injuries though: two linebackers (including our best tackler), at least two interior linemen on both sides, a bunch of receivers, and I’m sure a lot I’ve forgotten. I never understand why the fans don’t get this (many immediately start in on the coaches) but you just don’t lose players and not have it make any difference. We should have another upgrade to our depth again next year.

[@scotthickam904]

That makes sense. I don’t get Drakes power rankings

[@earnestpeeplesjr8948]

To prove a point.....why don't more Big 12 teams play against the SEC, Big 10 & ACC to clear up what conference is stronger?????? Easy fix

[@jeremims9044]

Or that can be done in the playoffs....oh wait, the "committee" decides who gets in

[@artax84z]

Because they would rather play Mercer or UMASS (Neal Brown has already turned that team around) for their non-conference games

[@sethstarr8323]

SEC refuses to play Big 12 teams and if they do will only play at home. BYU played last year at Arkansas and beat them, a BYU team that went 5-7, 2 or 3 years ago BYU went at Tennessee and won as well

[@gregjross852]

ASU played against Miss st. Although that’s Miss St. we had a home to home with LSU that also got cancelled.

[@jeremytpaul]

Also BYU against Texas all time is 4-1. We have Texas’ number!

[@JonJohnson-fv8jp]

Drake explained something I’ve always wondered, which is: how does the SEC play non-conference easy games late in the season? Apparently, SEC teams only play 8 conference teams whereas the other power conferences play 9. Did I understand that right? If true, that is unfair to teams in other conferences because the SEC basically gives its best teams another bye week just prior to conference championships or the CFP; therefore, giving its team a chance to heal up injured players and the best chance to win those big end-of-the-season games. Devious. Why doesn’t the Big12 imitate that scheduling?

[@dayrider86]

You are honestly correct about how they blow up SEC teams!!! Facts

[@justinclement2707]

Recency bias creeping in calling ASU a perennial bottom dweller in the PAC12. Those two 3-9 seasons following the Herm Edwards/Ray Anderson train wreck were ASU's worst finishes since World War 2. Massive outliers. In fact, ASU entered the Big 12 with the highest all-time winning percentage out of the 16 current teams in the league. The upswing is way ahead of schedule with what they're doing this year; but a stable ASU program should at least be in the mix in the Big 12 more often than not.

[@RohoSombrero]

Seriously? I don’t remember ASU making a run in the PAC12 ever. If they did it was years ago. The win/loss record over the last century doesn’t really tell us much. Weren’t they in the WAC for decades?

[@justinclement2707]

@RohoSombrero The Arizona schools moved up from the WAC to the PAC 10 in 1978. ASU went on to win 3 PAC 10 titles: -1986: beat Jim Harbaugh's Michigan in the Rose Bowl -1996: led by Jake Plummer & Pat Tillman, narrowly missed out on a national title falling to Ohio St in the final minute of the Rose Bowl -2007: *shared with USC. They also won the PAC 12 South division title in 2013 and had numerous other seasons where they were solidly in contention late into the season. In ASU's 45 non-COVID seasons in the PAC 10/12 they posted the following splits: 10+ wins: 13% 8-9 wins: 20% 6-7 wins: 42% 4-5 wins: 18% 3 wins: 7% I'm not saying ASU is a powerhouse, but they have clearly not been a bottom-dweller either. And in a league with no clear-cut football powerhouses, they should have as good of a shot as anyone to be in the mix in the Big 12 with decent regularity.

[@ian4040]

If KU held onto leads late in the 4th quarter and won games they should have won, they would likely be 10-1 right now.

[@jeremims9044]

Sure.. but they didn't. I don't know what point this is. If BYU could have just scored on that last drive they would have won.. they were right there. But they didn't.

[@ian4040]

@@jeremims9044 The point is KU legit gave away five games this season. Not a couple. They literally should have won all five of those games, if not for stupid mental mistakes. In other words, they're the most underperforming team in college football this year, as well as the unluckiest.

[@DavidParrishSly]

BYU fan! I agree with you 100 percent

[@ljhlax]

Entering Week 14, nine teams are still in contention for the Dr Pepper Big 12 Football Championship. The following details tiebreaking scenarios for ties among teams with 7-2 Big 12 records: Two-team tie scenarios: The two tied teams at 7-2 will be the Championship game participants. Three-team tie scenarios: Colorado loss: Arizona State vs. Iowa State Arizona State loss: Iowa State vs. BYU Iowa State loss: Arizona State vs. BYU BYU loss: If Texas Tech defeats West Virginia, then If Baylor beats Kansas and Cincinnati beats TCU: Colorado vs. Iowa State Otherwise: Colorado vs. Arizona State If West Virginia defeats Texas Tech: Arizona State vs. Iowa State Four-team tie scenario: Arizona State vs. Iowa State For teams who are 5-3 entering the week, they must win and see at least three of the four 6-2 teams take a loss.

[@H3AVYDUTY78]

Tech fan: I think if you undo the total fumbling of a final stretch that was the TCU game and we end with nine wins then I would definitely call it a success. I think last season The expectation was eight wins and it fell short due to horrible WR and OL play. This year the defense is substantially worse but we got an increase in talent at the wide receiver position. We're going to need some personnel change if we want to take the next step next season.

[@Thisisrandomlol]

Great power rankings, I agree

[@turinturambar347]

As a Kansas fan, it would be funny if KState gets into the Big XII title game because we put them there. I wouldn’t have it any other way though. So….you’re welcome in advance KState fans.

[@CameronMurray-x6u]

The baylor idea is incorrect. Like opponent record would be 3-1 KSU and 2-2 BU if they beat Kansas

[@RohoSombrero]

BYU has a perennial problem every November as injuries pile up and depth rears its ugly head. It’s getting better though. A lot of players who weren’t really ready to play had to play anyway last year and got some experience that helped this year. Not quite there yet though.

[@MisterPawigaly]

DISRESPECT AND PLAY DOWN TO YOUR OPPONENT AT YOUR PERIL!!! We see this happen, in every sport. We all saw this happen with much more than one team on Saturday. One of a coach's great challenges is getting their players to NOT to DISRESPECT AND PLAY DOWN TO THEIR OPPONENT. .

[@earnestpeeplesjr8948]

NIL has changed the narrative of that 1 Super Elite Team that rises above All. NIL has eliminated that issue.

[@sundevilscott]

At least you weren't afraid to say it out loud that right now ASU is the best team in the big 12.

[@TXM33]

The Big 12 champion and Boise St. deserve to receive an invitation to the college football playoff but neither team should be given a first round bye. The winner of the Big 12 championship game should be declared the Big 12 champion. We don’t need any more embarassments as when TCU was humiliated in the National Title game. The writing was on the wall when Kansas St beat TCU in the Big 12 championship game that season.

[@MrJara1018]

Kansas fumbled their season, it was weird considering they didn’t have a home stadium.

[@Cahigginbotham]

Arizona State wasn't a perennial bottom dweller, just had a bad the worst stretch in program history.

[@donnwilliams9996]

Kansas is way better than Baylor at the power ranking, AROD is the reason BYU cannot be consistant. NEED TO FIRE AROD for the past 3 years.

[@artax84z]

Now that UCF is out the only reason to watch the next game is to see if RJ Harvey can break Kevin Smiths total Career Touchdowns (They are tied at 46 which includes RJ'S 1 passing TD) They said on the Charge on Live watch along that maybe FOX should sell the game to the CW. since that's where it belongs. Looking at what is best for the conference on the whole we need Kansas to beat Baylor and Cincinnati to beat TCU giving us 11 bowl teams (up 2 from 2023) Yes for the good of the conference Drake needs to root for Baylor to lose. 7-5 is an improvement for them and 8-5 if they win is respectable. Kansas being 7-6 is also a positive going into next season.

[@mountain0382]

I thought the one good thing about Colorado moving to the Big 12, would be escaping so many bad calls by the Pac 12 officials, but man was I wrong. The Big 12 officiating is by far the worst I have ever seen. That hit on Shedeur's knee by a Kansas player right in front of an official was the worst non-call I have ever seen in my entire 50 years of watching football.Oh and Baylor at number 2 in the power rankings? LMAO, they are only the 5th best team in Texas.

[@jaymcclanahan353]

Doce Grande!!

[@calvinskinner2010]

At this point, I'm waiting to hear that there is a way for Oklahoma State to get to the big 12 championship lol

[@NOTSUREABOUT]

KSU best in BIGXII Sagarin computer rankings

[@israelmorales9921]

Colorado is going to ruin Oklahoma State’s perfect conference record… Mike Gundy will pull one off.

[@TheChipilicious]

I noticed that a lot of teams in the big 12 are gonna want arizona to beat arizona state. As an Arizona fan, I'll say this. Your screwed. Short of an actual miracle, I just don't see it happening. This is not the arizona from last year.

[@artax84z]

True but Rivalry games are a bit different.

[@elche1976]

I've seen games in this rivalry where ASU was 20 point favs.... and lost. Do I think Arizona will win? No but I've seen some incredibly wacky things happen. Anything that can happen seems to happen.

[@TheChipilicious]

@elche1976 I'm sorry, but you're gonna have to do better than, "It could happen." A meteorite could enter our atmosphere, burn up just enough to leave a small pebble, and strike me in the head. Killing me instantly. But I'm not gonna start wearing an army helmet out in public, just in case. Like I said, and actual Miracle.

[@elche1976]

@TheChipilicious you must be very young or just don't pay attention. A little recap. 1982- #6 ASU was 9-1 and UofA was 5-4-1. ASU Heavy favorites and going to rose bowl with a win. UofA won 28-18. No rose bowl. 1986- #4 ASU 9-0-1 vs #14 UofA 7-2 and faves and UofA wins 34-17 and knocks ASU out of Rose. 1997- year after our 96 season, #17 ASU 8-2 vs UofA 5-5 and UofA wins 28-16. 2004- #18 ASU 8-2 vs 2-8 UofA and we were like 23 point favorites. UofA won 34-27 with ASU having 5 turnovers. I mean, those are just the simple ones where we were heavl favorites. We're only -9 point favorites this time. Don't get me wrong, we should win easy. But any ASU fan that actually pays attention and isn't a bandwagon fan knows history. Which tells me which group you fall into if you don't know our history.

[@TheChipilicious]

@elche1976 i don't have to be too old to remember 70-7. I was there. I watched it with my own eyes, LIVE. And we were bad that year too. What reassurance do I have that i won't have to watch something like that again? Do I honestly have to put up with the billboards again? Sigh Also, just know that I'm just contractroly obligated to hate you. Rivalry and all. Otherwise, you sound like a nice and reasonable person. I'm sorry. Between my cats and the Dallas cowboys, football has not been nice to me. And I may have taken some of that frustration out on you. For that I apologize.

[@davin6256]

Do any teams control their own destiny?

[@SvdSinner]

Iowa State and ASU

[@heartbreak25]

Nebraska dogwalked Colorado and Illinois beat Kansas but the B1G lacks depth? Okay. This is a reminder that the Big 12's notable wins were SMU, Iowa, Arkansas, and Mississippi State. That's it. You don't get credit for winning and losing against bottom feeders within the Big 12.

[@tpatrickl9539]

You need to judge Kansas on the complete body of their work, not just what have you done for me lately. This is where you lose viewers, when you don’t assess things logically. They aren’t even a 500 team, they should be in the bottom, half of the rankings.DRINK DRAKE DRUNK is back

[@SonicBoomC98]

BYU should be before CU. Imagine if KU and Baylor were playing better earlier, we wouldn't even be talking about CU. I still think KSU is a better team than CU. The SEC has underperformed in some games, but I still think the SEC is the superior conference. No way CU is beating GA. They likely lose to any team that's good in the trenches. CU is favored in some games because of how the media portrays them

[@elche1976]

Byu has lost 2 straight and are praying others lose to get in. Sorry, they don't deserve to be higher.

[@BoomGoesTheDynamit]

Big 12 looks real bad. The top teams need to head tot he ACC

[@Drumwolf62]

HEY YOU CAN'T SAY THE BIG 12 IS BORING

[@wetblanket1977]

Putting ur alma matter ahead of ku is playing favorite lol. Cmon man, ku has beaten ranked teams bud

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[@clee4619]

Arizona State, who is in position to win the Big 12, had to hang on to defeat Mississippi State by 7 earlier this season. Mississippi State is currently 0-7 in SEC play and by far the worst team in the SEC.

[@elche1976]

Week 2. And they've only gotten better. They also lost to Cincy without their starting qb, Leavitt. Better hold them accountable. But igniter teams like Boise who don't have anything andstruggle to beat Wyoming who is awful. Teams like byu and ASU handled them easily. Forget Alabama, and Ole Miss who have 3 losses. Georgia who struggled vs UMass this week. Focus on week 2. Lol. Move along, chica.

[@michaelfasano8291]

ASU didn't need to hang on if you watched the game...they took a huge early lead and then ran the clock out. Thats what ASU does

[@clee4619]

​@@elche1976 Not a good look when you beat a glorified JUCO team by 7.

[@m.a.c.9739]

I was at this game and everyone left at halftime because ASU was destroying MSU. They did close the gap like the Dallas Cowboys in the 2nd half. Also Cam ran for 250+ on that SEC defense.

[@elche1976]

@@clee4619 oh, I know. Georgia best then buy 10. A&M beatthem by 10. Definitely not a good look for those powerhouse. Great point, junior.

[@clanski1634]

Vendy probably is also 9-2 with byu schedule. Just based on the information you gave.

[@turinturambar347]

The Big XII suffers from the issue it’s suffered for a long time. No elite teams. They don’t have as much talent at the top as other teams. But the bottom teams are better than other conferences. There’s so much parity. Kansas and Colorado though are the only two teams from the Big XII that I think would have a chance to be competitive in the playoffs. Colorado because of their skill position players, and Kansas because of their OL and run game. Those elite teams dominate the trenches, and Kansas has an OL that might actually be able to hold their own in the trenches and Sanders/Hunter are a combo that can ruin somebody’s day any given day. ASU I just don’t think has the power in the trenches and KState while a formidable team, they don’t have the strength in the trenches they normally do. They’re doing it with good coaching and schemes, but when somebody comes with a good gameplan, they struggle.

[@Michael-y2m9s]

Anyone confident the Big 12 gets any playoff wins?The ACC is a better conference and they’re a distant 3rd.

[@John-ne4fq]

Acc is not even close to the big 12

[@Michael-y2m9s]

@ I disagree. The ACC recruits better, sends more players to the NFL, and they also have teams that could actually win a national championship. Florida State and Clemson have more national championships in the last 15 years than all Big 12 teams combined have in their history. They also have 2 teams currently ranked ahead of the Big 12’s highest ranked team.

[@John-ne4fq]

@ we are talking about this season the entire league has switched up the acc and big 12 are completely different conferences today. Big 12 has won over acc frontrunner and other than Miami Clemson smu the conference is trash. No depth like the big 12 has

[@CameronMurray-x6u]

Baylor winning or losing does not play into KSU to Arlington. KSU against like teams is 2-1 and Baylor would be 1-2. After KU game even with a win it would be 3-1 and 2-2. @Drakectoll

[@b_rodskin4834]

Go after the SEC! Love to hear it. 🙌🫡