Big Ben is the best QB in Steelers history, not Terry Bradshaw - Ryan Clark | First Take

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@Hollowsmith
@Hollowsmith 2 жыл бұрын
Stephen A. Smith says "Big Ben stayed two years too long." / For that to be true, whoever replaced him would have had to do better than 21 wins, 11 losses, 2 for 2 in playoff berths, an 11-game winning streak, and an AFC North crown. About 90% of NFL QB's would have been hard pressed to do any better with that offensive line.
@kenjaminhookes9536
@kenjaminhookes9536 2 жыл бұрын
Ben should’ve retired a long time ago. We had that streak because of good defense. Same reason Mason was 5-3 as a starter.
@nba2kfanman21
@nba2kfanman21 2 жыл бұрын
If there was an all-time Steelers team. Both QBs should be on it and I wouldn't care who would be the starter.
@nicolaslatorre810
@nicolaslatorre810 2 жыл бұрын
@@kenjaminhookes9536 still masón and duck didn't put up more than 17 points at times.
@sportsbooklab7147
@sportsbooklab7147 6 ай бұрын
The Kenny Pickett era should have been Big Ben’s years
@kylermichael3972
@kylermichael3972 2 жыл бұрын
Finally someone else is saying Stephen A is a fair weather fan besides me
@zach1389
@zach1389 2 жыл бұрын
I mean I’ve been saying he’s racially prejudiced for years
@harryskywalker6814
@harryskywalker6814 2 жыл бұрын
@@zach1389 Bruh
@QT-173
@QT-173 2 жыл бұрын
@@zach1389 You may think that but he's right about Ben being around 2 seasons too many. You don't want someone's greatness to disappear when they play.
@patriotskingnation8084
@patriotskingnation8084 2 жыл бұрын
Part timers are scared to confront SAS since a word from Sas will get them remove from their jobs
@jamesanthony5681
@jamesanthony5681 2 жыл бұрын
He's great on *General Hospital* .
@montre6381
@montre6381 2 жыл бұрын
Ryan Clark def spoke facts wit the “Bias” word ‼️
@Poop-qu2pk
@Poop-qu2pk 2 жыл бұрын
Big Ben is an absolute legend! 2 Super Bowls 6 pro bowls 2 sexual assault cases dismissed 64085 yards 418 touchdowns First ballot hall of famer!
@greggreg6886
@greggreg6886 2 жыл бұрын
Lol The cases dismissed differently make him 1st 🥇 ballot
@Jay3cars
@Jay3cars 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂🔥🔥
@pineapplefresh4752
@pineapplefresh4752 2 жыл бұрын
Weird people keep this energy with Big Ben yet its wrong when you bring up the Kobe stuff...
@robertdecourcey6400
@robertdecourcey6400 2 жыл бұрын
@@pineapplefresh4752 Which one is alive bro?
@acesiegel4467
@acesiegel4467 2 жыл бұрын
@@pineapplefresh4752 it’s not weird at all. Ones dead the other isn’t, not that hard to understand
@Q__tube
@Q__tube 2 жыл бұрын
I didn’t even think this was a debate honestly. Terry Bradshaw has 212 TD passes and 210 Interceptions
@80steen44
@80steen44 2 жыл бұрын
Regardless of who's better you're showing your lack of NFL history knowledge. Bradshaw played in an era where you could chuck the reciever past 5 yds and there were no defenseless reciever rules. Ben was drafted by a team that had plenty of pieces, Bradshaw was drafted by the worst team in NFL history and thrown to the wolves with zero talent and those early years is the bulk of his interceptions. Once he had talent he called his own plays, won a league MVP, 2 Super Bowl MVPs and 4 Super Bowls in 6 years, back to back twice. He has a whopping 112.8 Super Bowl passer rating.
@OB-xf3jz
@OB-xf3jz 2 жыл бұрын
@@80steen44 bradshaw played with 8 hof players, ben played with 3 in a more competitive era. what's that about lack of knowledge?! regardless of how you want to spin it, bradshaw was a mediocre qb
@demetriusjohnson2240
@demetriusjohnson2240 2 жыл бұрын
Can't compare stats different Era if you at the stats of quarterback from Bradshaw Era you'll that most of the quarterback inentercepion touchdown ratios are high cause back then you can actually play defense unlike today pass happy lead I still think big ben was the better quarterback just saying comparing stats doesn't tell whole story
@veganhippie8498
@veganhippie8498 2 жыл бұрын
I think Ben is better but Bradshaw had a cannon. you can’t compare stats in a run first, very physical era where you could jam way past 5 yards and recievers would get killed
@jackdamenace13
@jackdamenace13 2 жыл бұрын
@@80steen44 Fran Tarkenton, Johnny Unitas, and Roger Staubach weren’t chucking ints like Fred Flintstone Bradshaw.
@richboyprado
@richboyprado 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! Ryan Clark nailed this take! SAS ain’t a real Pittsburgh fan. He could care less if they lose. Only supports them when they’re super bowl contenders.
@Terror832
@Terror832 2 жыл бұрын
I know it’s a different era. But look at Terry Bradshaws ridiculous rookie season 83/218 (38.1%), 1,410 Yards, 6 TDs, 24 INTs, 38.1 Passer Rating. These are not typos. He was #1 overall pick that year.
@darnellwilliams8783
@darnellwilliams8783 2 жыл бұрын
thelegendsqb1 so is big ben I know it's a different era but he got away with different era but big ben had all them charges go away what about his victims
@tsar378
@tsar378 2 жыл бұрын
Terry Bradshaw made big plays in big games more often. Ben sometimes makes big plays against poor opponents. But more often than not didn't
@slothkng
@slothkng 2 жыл бұрын
Terry only passed for 3000 yards twice in his career and barely has more TDs than INT 212-210
@80steen44
@80steen44 2 жыл бұрын
Regardless of who's better you're showing your lack of NFL history knowledge. Bradshaw played in an era where you could chuck the reciever past 5 yds and there were no defenseless reciever rules. Ben was drafted by a team that had plenty of pieces, Bradshaw was drafted by the worst team in NFL history and thrown to the wolves with zero talent and those early years is the bulk of his interceptions. Once he had talent he called his own plays, won a league MVP, 2 Super Bowl MVPs and 4 Super Bowls in 6 years, back to back twice. He has a whopping 112.8 Super Bowl passer rating.
@80steen44
@80steen44 2 жыл бұрын
@@slothkng Regardless of who's better you're showing your lack of NFL history knowledge. Bradshaw played in an era where you could chuck the reciever past 5 yds and there were no defenseless reciever rules. Ben was drafted by a team that had plenty of pieces, Bradshaw was drafted by the worst team in NFL history and thrown to the wolves with zero talent and those early years is the bulk of his interceptions. Once he had talent he called his own plays, won a league MVP, 2 Super Bowl MVPs and 4 Super Bowls in 6 years, back to back twice. He has a whopping 112.8 Super Bowl passer rating.
@Hollowsmith
@Hollowsmith 2 жыл бұрын
You have to compare QB's WITHIN AN ERA. 95% of 2022 QB's "have better stats" than Terry Bradshaw because 99% of rule changes since the 1970's have weakened defenses and benefitted offenses. I think Big Ben was better also, but the reason isn't an unfair "statistical comparison" between eras. The reason is because Terry Bradshaw played for a team with about 10 Hall Of Famers on it and another 2 or 3 that probably should be. Ben's supporting cast was "good". Terry's was insane.
@whitewhale9012
@whitewhale9012 2 жыл бұрын
Funny thing... in 76 they nerfed defense to slow down the steel curtain. Instead it opened up the steelers pass game allowing strong armed bradshaw to bomb all over defenses to Swann and stallworth. 😅 They ended up winning 2 more titles after the infamous 76 nerf.
@jarodthomas3132
@jarodthomas3132 2 жыл бұрын
Ben had to play in an era with Peyton and Brady. Sure Bradshaw had to play against some HOF Qb's, but not nearly the same level as those guys. Bradshaw also got to play with an entire team of HOF's.
@TheHutchIsOn
@TheHutchIsOn 11 ай бұрын
And Tebow
@tonehealth6993
@tonehealth6993 2 жыл бұрын
Well said Ryan 👏🏾
@grownmentalkingsports6834
@grownmentalkingsports6834 2 жыл бұрын
Molly was tryna hit a high note tryna explain her point … That was Molly at her finest lol.
@Alpha-gj7rw
@Alpha-gj7rw 2 жыл бұрын
She just wouldn’t shut up
@masonr5677
@masonr5677 2 жыл бұрын
Terry Bradshaw is overrated !!!!! He was carried by the “steel curtain “
@jamesanthony5681
@jamesanthony5681 2 жыл бұрын
No.
@daggeringking100
@daggeringking100 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesanthony5681 yes
@DTun-yt1bz
@DTun-yt1bz 2 жыл бұрын
Bradshaw called his own plays. Was a gunslinger when it really mattered. 2x MVP. #12 did more when it mattered
@bigguccidrejones4183
@bigguccidrejones4183 2 жыл бұрын
12 had a better surrounding cast than Ben
@calvinlee2906
@calvinlee2906 2 жыл бұрын
Shut up Boomer
@popamalu2882
@popamalu2882 2 жыл бұрын
He did nothing, the steel curtain did it
@dewaynepatrick6794
@dewaynepatrick6794 2 жыл бұрын
Give me the steel Curtain I can win 1 sb.....
@skah80
@skah80 2 жыл бұрын
The Steel Curtain Defense did more when it matter.
@espectrodelayautja6320
@espectrodelayautja6320 2 жыл бұрын
Jalen retired Molly box and SAS went dumpster diving
@johnmoore4714
@johnmoore4714 2 жыл бұрын
Ryan Clark speaking facts. Stephen A smith got in his feelings Ryan Clark called him out for his fakeness of being a steelers fan. I thought it was disrespectful what he said of big Ben.
@jhacedomantay5837
@jhacedomantay5837 2 жыл бұрын
He's also an eagles fan An Aaron Rodgers fan Whoever is great at the moment fan
@genetallen7130
@genetallen7130 2 жыл бұрын
SAS doesn't know what legacy means its not what he did 2 years ago,its about a 18 years career worth of accomplishments.
@nothingspecial8114
@nothingspecial8114 2 жыл бұрын
18 years is the longest a QB has been with 1 team? I thought Brady was with the Pats for 20
@kingkai_187
@kingkai_187 2 жыл бұрын
I think they disqualified brady because he went to the Bucs instead of retiring with the pats
@curtish.6900
@curtish.6900 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone born in 1960 will say Terry, anyone born in 1980 will say Ben. For me playing in an era where no one can touch you will never compare to an era where breaking bones was legal, not to mention 4 SB's. Bradshaw is the Mt Rushmore of Steeler QB's.
@zandermickens4392
@zandermickens4392 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@joeljohnson6137
@joeljohnson6137 2 жыл бұрын
As a 80s baby I thought Ben was better actually but looking at Bradshaw resume it's Bradshaw. An it's not because of more SUPERBOWLS. It's having more MVP awards in Superbowl an Season
@theguy7380
@theguy7380 2 жыл бұрын
So Terry Bradshaw got 4 rings and he isn’t the best steeper QB. Because he had the steel curtain.! Brady has 6 rings not because of the kicker or his defense … Aite
@joeljohnson6137
@joeljohnson6137 2 жыл бұрын
Plus Ben never won any season MVPs or Superbowl MVPs
@JPSimen
@JPSimen Жыл бұрын
7 rings brady
@streetfamoustrojan1969
@streetfamoustrojan1969 2 жыл бұрын
Stephan A thought about his response all night after saying thank god 😂
@johnmoore4714
@johnmoore4714 2 жыл бұрын
Disrespectful saying that about big Ben
@lloydmorris9962
@lloydmorris9962 2 жыл бұрын
Before Bradshaw went to the Steelers they were one of the worst teams in the NFL and help turn the team into one of the greatest teams in the history of the NFL when ben went to the Steelers they were a qb away from being a great team
@veganhippie8498
@veganhippie8498 2 жыл бұрын
Bradshaw was great but what about all those hall of fame & pro bowl draft picks that the Steelers hit on in the early 70s?
@jamesanthony5681
@jamesanthony5681 2 жыл бұрын
@Kira Capalot He had 5 seasons (out of 14) where he threw >=20 picks a year.
@deucespades9416
@deucespades9416 2 жыл бұрын
I cant remember but wont it the same for big ben
@artificialintelligence0101
@artificialintelligence0101 2 жыл бұрын
Terry Bradshaw's TD to INT ratio pure 🚮🗑️
@redskinsxvii
@redskinsxvii 2 жыл бұрын
You cannot compared TD-INT ratios from the 1970s to the 2000s/2010s totally different sport/rules.
@StFigarlandGarling
@StFigarlandGarling Жыл бұрын
If you remove his dreadful rookie season it’s 206-186, which was pretty good for the era.
@RL-ww5ev
@RL-ww5ev 2 жыл бұрын
molly is hot but she talks to much
@Standgedicht
@Standgedicht 2 жыл бұрын
😂👌
@rawnbadillo9886
@rawnbadillo9886 2 жыл бұрын
Bradshaw won 4 Super Bowls to Big Ben's 2...and that matters. That being said, THE original TB12 was surrounded by great players whom stayed togethor before free agency. Harris, Bleier, Swann, Stallworth and the greatest defense of all time (take that 85 Bears). Big Ben also played with great players like Miller, Brown, Bettis, Ward, etc. And like Bradshaw he too had great defenses to back him up. The difference to me is Big Ben won with different players. Unfortunately Big Ben had to go head to head against Manning and Brady who are arguably the 2 best to ever play QB. And I know Bradshaw had wars with Stabler and the Raiders and the Dolphins were pretty good too as were the Oilers once they got Campbell. But those teams don't measure up to Brady's Patriots nor Manning's Colts in my opinion. The Ravens with that defense were also in the mix. And that's why I give the nod to Big Ben cuz I feel though he only won half the Super Bowls Bradshaw did he did more with less. As a die hard Steeler fan I am just glad they both played their entire careers with Pittsburgh...
@debking3064
@debking3064 2 жыл бұрын
Terry Bradshaw has 4 super bowl championship enough said
@lilqkb5746
@lilqkb5746 2 жыл бұрын
Using that argument, Tent Dilfer is a better QB than Dan Marino.
@Q__tube
@Q__tube 2 жыл бұрын
Those 4 SuperBowls were won because of the Steel Curtain
@debking3064
@debking3064 2 жыл бұрын
@@Q__tube no respect
@Jaybills84
@Jaybills84 2 жыл бұрын
@@Q__tube Agreed & I'm a Steelers fan
@OB-xf3jz
@OB-xf3jz 2 жыл бұрын
@@debking3064 terry bradshaw was a mediocre qb at best, just look at his stats. he greatly benefited by playing with 8 hall of famers and a hall of fame coach.
@montre6381
@montre6381 2 жыл бұрын
Big Ben the truth ‼️
@dylxnc1293
@dylxnc1293 2 жыл бұрын
Pat mcafee show>first take
@brandonsingh276
@brandonsingh276 2 жыл бұрын
So true
@lukebrown188
@lukebrown188 2 жыл бұрын
True
@D30-k9l
@D30-k9l 2 жыл бұрын
As a ravens fan w Ben n tomlin i nvr counted them out of a game.. always had my blood pressure up when we face yall 😭 enjoy your retirement 🤝
@nicholashughes7099
@nicholashughes7099 2 жыл бұрын
As a Steelers fan watching Ben play u guys always had me on the edge of my seat. So many great battles
@toddjacksonpoetry
@toddjacksonpoetry 2 жыл бұрын
Peak Bradshaw ('77-'80 or thereabouts) was flat-out better than Ben ever was. He was, for a brief period, the best QB in the NFL. Ben was never that. Then again, Ben was never as bad as Early Bradshaw.
@Brody-cx5vl
@Brody-cx5vl Жыл бұрын
I hate the Steelers. But Bradshaw was a much better quarterback. No knock on Big Ben he was great. But Bradshaw was significantly superior.
@whitewhale9012
@whitewhale9012 2 жыл бұрын
Completely different eras. It's not comparing apples and apples. Terry Bradshaw was a killer in late game situations, and had one of the NFL's great arms. All of these young guys are standing on the backs of giants like unitas, bradshaw,marino, montana. All with ever changing NFL rules designed to help offenses. Of course the new generation are 'better' in that regard. They had the luxury of witnessing so many past greats and pioneers and playing at a time the rules clearly benifit offenses.
@capcitymediagroup831
@capcitymediagroup831 2 жыл бұрын
Terry Bradshaw.....won 4 super bowls in 6 years....him and joe greene were drafted before the Steelers started winning. So he is important to the teams success. He to me was better than Ben.....the teams they had to beat back then especially the raiders and dolphins.....nah
@rdjcisneros6708
@rdjcisneros6708 2 жыл бұрын
*TERRY BRADSHAW IS THE BEST QUARTERBACK IN PITTSBURGH STEELERS HISTORY, BEST DEFENCE IN 70S YES BUT THEY STILL NEEDED THE OFFENSE TO SCORE, BIG BEN IS SECOND BEST QUARTERBACK IN PITTSBURGH STEELERS HISTORY AND THAT IS NOT A BAD PLACE TO BE*
@joeljohnson6137
@joeljohnson6137 2 жыл бұрын
Agree an Big Ben is the 2nd greatest Steelers QB
@williamharris5598
@williamharris5598 2 жыл бұрын
Once upon a time, Johnny Unitas was a Steeler.
@rudolphpickett5103
@rudolphpickett5103 2 жыл бұрын
Got cut
@apbafootballclub411
@apbafootballclub411 Жыл бұрын
As was Len Dawson.
@montre6381
@montre6381 2 жыл бұрын
Man if Big Ben won tht super bowl against Rodgers wouldn’t even be spoken about 🤦🏽‍♂️
@perryellis1423
@perryellis1423 2 жыл бұрын
Rashard Mendenhall lost that game with that MF 🤬 fumble
@80steen44
@80steen44 2 жыл бұрын
Well Ben kept forcing the ball to Wallace on the final drive instead of going underneath. Regardless of who's better you're showing your lack of NFL history knowledge. Bradshaw played in an era where you could chuck the reciever past 5 yds and there were no defenseless reciever rules. Ben was drafted by a team that had plenty of pieces, Bradshaw was drafted by the worst team in NFL history and thrown to the wolves with zero talent and those early years is the bulk of his interceptions. Once he had talent he called his own plays, won a league MVP, 2 Super Bowl MVPs and 4 Super Bowls in 6 years, back to back twice. He has a whopping 112.8 Super Bowl passer rating.
@steelerman5830
@steelerman5830 Жыл бұрын
Number 7 will never ever be forgotten. Thank you BIG BEN !!!
@williefufu2985
@williefufu2985 2 жыл бұрын
I like Terry Bradshaw and Big Ben. I really don’t see the need to pick one over the other.
@alleyoop66
@alleyoop66 2 жыл бұрын
Terry was a great big game QB Ben was not....The eras were way different Brad would kill in this flag football era of the NFL,just imagine surviving one game getting slammed on astro-turf
@darkblueismyfavoritecolor.4082
@darkblueismyfavoritecolor.4082 2 жыл бұрын
YAWN.
@goodreverend2k1
@goodreverend2k1 2 жыл бұрын
No it's Terry Bradshaw. Bradshaw was the MVP in 1978. And a 2 time SB MVP. Ben maybe got 3 MVP votes his entire career.
@endcorruptio
@endcorruptio 2 жыл бұрын
Ben held the franchise back? With a terrible Oline in 2020, Ben led them to a 12-3 record, in 2021 with a historically bad oline and a bad defense Ben led them to a 9-7 record. Stephen A is a serious blowhard
@shioriryukaze
@shioriryukaze 2 жыл бұрын
Around the time that it came time for him to retire, he had terrible offensive lines. It just now started picking up as of last year but that's not really saying anything when you had a defense that would destroy a lead. Yes he's the quarterback so he gets some kind of blame but a lot of times, I don't care how many points you throw up on the board, if the defense bleeds whatever lead you have, there's only so much one man can do.
@DAcrisure
@DAcrisure 2 жыл бұрын
Its not just the oline. Even when Ben had time, he was just dumping the ball off to his recievers or running backs. He lost his greatest skills as a player. Thats why Pittsburgh had to change the offense that would fit Ben the finest.
@endcorruptio
@endcorruptio 2 жыл бұрын
@@DAcrisure and by the way. The quik release offense was formed because of the terrible O-line couldn't protect Ben, not because of Bens inability to throw. Of course his arm isn't what is was, before the elbow surgery. But this false narritive that Ben can't push the ball down field is laughable. ie see the Minnisota game. For some reason, they opened up the down field passing game, even though the Oline couldn't give Ben time(Ben got pummbled) but his down field ability was on display.
@duskthunder9274
@duskthunder9274 2 жыл бұрын
@@shioriryukaze defense is good
@culturisklounge3791
@culturisklounge3791 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for calling out Stephen A. Ryan Clark.
@BobbyDick22785
@BobbyDick22785 2 жыл бұрын
Then Favre is also greater than Rodgers and Starr
@JPSimen
@JPSimen Жыл бұрын
He is.
@ARAwtry
@ARAwtry 2 жыл бұрын
its not that stephenA is wrong, it just seems disrespectful that his FIRST comment was "Thank God"
@GT-mj3uj
@GT-mj3uj 2 жыл бұрын
If Ben played in 1976 it’s 10 straight Super Bowls
@redskinsxvii
@redskinsxvii 2 жыл бұрын
If he lasted that long.
@lumbergerb12
@lumbergerb12 2 жыл бұрын
Thx u Ryan he's not a true Steelers fan. He doesn't know any better. Appreciate u Big Ben!!
@joel5677
@joel5677 2 жыл бұрын
Not true terry has 4 Super Bowls… I will take Bradshaw
@jecoral9467
@jecoral9467 2 жыл бұрын
Super Bowls don’t mean everything
@Lets_Go_UW
@Lets_Go_UW 2 жыл бұрын
Team achievement not a QB one
@Q__tube
@Q__tube 2 жыл бұрын
So by that logic Nick Foles is a better quarterback than Dan Marino right? Those superbowls were won by defense
@markjackson6431
@markjackson6431 2 жыл бұрын
@@Q__tube no, stop being stupid. the point is that Bradshaw and Big Ben are similar in achievements and caliber of player thus the ring count matters. rings matter no matter the sport, your top 10 lists include players with multiple championships. don’t be that guy that says Horry is better than Jordan because 7 beats 6 by your logic. you can’t compare something like. some players get their rings by riding in the car, not driving it. yes rings are a team accomplishment, but it’s the ultimate goal. nobody plays to not win championships. some players are more impactful than others….come on bro.
@80steen44
@80steen44 2 жыл бұрын
@@Q__tube Wrong. Bradshaw was the Super Bowl MVP twice and had a whopping 112.8 Super Bowl rating. Ben's Super Bowls were won on defense but for 1 drive
@worldtree2027
@worldtree2027 2 жыл бұрын
It’s easy to say comparing them directly. Era for era however it’s really really tough. But Ben would definitely be picked first in a fantasy draft. Skill Level: Ben Impact: Terry Resume: Terry Stats: Ben
@toddjacksonpoetry
@toddjacksonpoetry 2 жыл бұрын
Bradshaw was picked first in the REAL draft. And no, Ben just doesn't have Bradshaw's skill level.
@whitewhale9012
@whitewhale9012 2 жыл бұрын
@@toddjacksonpoetry Terry had a cannon.
@jayu7141
@jayu7141 2 жыл бұрын
Clutch: Ben
@duskthunder9274
@duskthunder9274 2 жыл бұрын
@@toddjacksonpoetry Bradshaw literally said if he got picked today he would be a third round pick
@StFigarlandGarling
@StFigarlandGarling Жыл бұрын
@@jayu7141 clutch: Bradshaw. Bradshaw is the definition of clutch.
@curtismonk9524
@curtismonk9524 7 ай бұрын
Strictly from a fan perspective, and with my tongue FIRMLY in my cheek .....🙂 Having watched the entire careers of both Bradshaw and Big Ben, it's Terry Bradshaw. Trying to determine the "BEST" of anything MUST come down to pure numbers. Mainly, the Number of Championships won. Period, and done. Maybe Ben had a different demeanor in the locker room, dressed "cooler", could throw the ball farther, more accurate, or had LAZERBEAMS coming our of his eyes. Even if he had better stats in every category than Terry Bradshaw, .. how many super bowls were won? Is this not the ULTIMATE MEASURE of Greatness? Especially in Professional Sports? There is a tendency in this modern, hi tech, instant information age to DISCOUNT the great athletes of bygone days, especially by a generation of 20, 30 or 40 - something year olds who never saw a Bill Russell play basketball, or Pele' even kick a soccer ball. Never saw Pistol Pete Maravich do things with a basketball that the Globetrotters could only DREAM of doing. So, of COURSE the fresh, modern Stars MUST be the BEST at their crafts. Nikola Jokic MUST BE "light years" better than Wilt Chamberlain. REALLY? REALLY??? Perhaps. But Perhaps NOT. So .... who is better; Kyrie Irving or Pete Maravich?????? :-) OF course it's Maravich. Right????? It will always be subjective. And that's fine. But if Ryan Clark (whom I LOVE to hear his commentaries and greatly respect his opinions) thinks that Big Ben is the best Steeler ever, he has a right to his opinion. But that's all it will ever be, is his opinion. In fact, if Ben and Terry's time in the NFL were "Flipped" so that Ben played during Terry's time, and vice versa, I strongly believe Ryan's opinion would be that Bradshaw was the best. Now I obviously can't ACTUALLY control Ryan's choices, but my OPINION is that he would flip his choice. ESPECIALLY IF Bradshaw's 4 Super Bowl victories were newer and more recent ... "Fresh in the minds" of people. And replayed a Gazillion times on social media!!! I Love it. These kind of things - Wholesome Bantering back and forth, is what makes it all Extremely Entertaining, Enjoyable ... and LUCRATIVE for everyone who makes money from it all.. As well as every Sports fan from EVERY GENERATION. In closing, a question for R.C. ...... Word Association ..... If I say "Cowboys", who pops into your head first? Staubach or Aikman. Or maybe "Bullet" Bob Hayes?? Tom Landry or Jimmy Johnson? Ha ha. Dorsett or Smith????? Charlie Waters or Deion?????? On and on we go! (Oooops .... Robert Horry won 7 Rings, and M.J. only 6. So of COURSE that means ..... Bill Russell is the best EVER (Played 13 years, 12 Championship games; Won 11 of them) ............................................. 🙂
@marilyncatterall402
@marilyncatterall402 2 жыл бұрын
I can think of at least 4 reasons why Bradshaw is the best QB in Steelers history.
@adammcnabb5167
@adammcnabb5167 2 жыл бұрын
Name them then
@jeffhowell5312
@jeffhowell5312 2 жыл бұрын
Am still.trying to get over 43. Who left us. But 90 and 39 are here
@bryanjones4444
@bryanjones4444 2 ай бұрын
Ryan is right. Ben is head and shoulders better than Terry. Bradshaw had 4 great seasons and 5 or more poor ones. Terry was the worst quarterback in the league from 1970-74
@THEAdmiralXizor
@THEAdmiralXizor 2 жыл бұрын
Ben was great. Terry was better. Terry went to four Super Bowls, and never lost any.
@DDDD22244
@DDDD22244 2 жыл бұрын
Terry Bradshaw was CARRIED to all his super bowls by the greatest defenses of all time and had the greatest wrs of all time. It’s clear Ben was always better
@darnellwilliams8783
@darnellwilliams8783 2 жыл бұрын
Daniel Darden so was big ben
@yengvang8737
@yengvang8737 2 жыл бұрын
Um 2008 Steelers had the top defense in the League what are you talking about? lol
@hueyfreeman7184
@hueyfreeman7184 2 жыл бұрын
@@yengvang8737 he said of all time and you bring up 1 season that’s hilarious js.
@DDDD22244
@DDDD22244 2 жыл бұрын
@@hueyfreeman7184 Lol he’s a 🤡 definition of loud and wrong
@80steen44
@80steen44 2 жыл бұрын
Lol Bradshaw was a 2 time Super Bowl MVP, 2 time team MVP and league MVP. He called his own plays and had a whopping 112.8 Super Bowl passer rating. What does any of that have to do with defense? Go to school and watch a Bradshaw highlight film
@stansova3138
@stansova3138 9 ай бұрын
Big Ben was good, but Terry Bradshaw was the king with help from Noll, Noll knew how to pick people who would help Terry win games, Terry had an arm like a Cannon with the same accuracy. Big Ben could get you down to the red zone but half of his attempts to get in where fails. While with Terry's arm he didn't have to get into the red zone, he got down to the 40 and that was all it took with his arm. I would take Terry Bradshaw any day of the week then Big Ben. (how many Super Bowls did Terry and Noll have in how long, now that is football with a team playing football) .
@MorningDew85
@MorningDew85 2 жыл бұрын
Big Ben is top 5 all time easy, and has become such a great guy and family man, Pittsburgh loves Big Ben
@shanerobinson925
@shanerobinson925 2 жыл бұрын
Top 5. Stop
@yourenotfunny2905
@yourenotfunny2905 2 жыл бұрын
Top 5 Steelers QB’s
@clinteastwood6875
@clinteastwood6875 2 жыл бұрын
Not even top 15
@DAcrisure
@DAcrisure 2 жыл бұрын
Top 5 is a little questionable, but hes a 1st ballot hall of famer. I just hope now he lives a great life with his family.
@ChaoticMisfit
@ChaoticMisfit 2 жыл бұрын
@@clinteastwood6875 He for sure isn't top 5 but I would like to hear your list of 15 QBs better. You may be right I just can't think of 15 off the top of my head.
@muttmizzle
@muttmizzle 6 ай бұрын
That was really crazy Stephen A
@JohnSmith-nm4zd
@JohnSmith-nm4zd 2 жыл бұрын
Bradshaw won 4 Super Bowls so he's the better winner, but Ben has better stats Take your pick: Rings or stats?
@bigoj7917
@bigoj7917 2 жыл бұрын
Stats because Bradshaw didn’t win those rings solely by himself. Put another other elite QB of that era on the 70s Steelers and you’d get the same result.
@billviola7884
@billviola7884 2 жыл бұрын
Big Ben never called his own plays. And Tomlison is not Chuck Knolls either.
@JasonGuinto73
@JasonGuinto73 2 жыл бұрын
Stat wise ....Big Ben..!
@mikehelak8874
@mikehelak8874 2 жыл бұрын
Respectfully disagree. 4 Superbowls, 4 wins. Ben has gone 11 years with 3 playoff wins. Bradshaw 8 straight playoff appearances, 6 AFC championship appearances 4 Superbowls appearances 4WINS. Bradshaw also called his own plays!!! Not even close. Bradshaw could also run the ball very effectively. Ben trying the run the ball was very painful to watch. There is a reason Bradshaw was drafted 1st in the whole draft!!!
@bigoj7917
@bigoj7917 2 жыл бұрын
Bradshaw had like 8 other HOFers on his team. Any QB from that era could’ve won with that.
@mikehelak8874
@mikehelak8874 2 жыл бұрын
We had Hall of Famers in the Green Bay/ Steeler Superbowl and we still lost. Whenever we played the Patriots we sucked. Bradshaw beat a loaded Dallas team that had as many All Stars as we did. He also beat a loaded All Star Raiders and Oilers team twice to go to the Superbowl. Bradshaw was money in big games.
@bigoj7917
@bigoj7917 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikehelak8874 we had 2-3 HOFers in 2011. Not 9.
@mikehelak8874
@mikehelak8874 2 жыл бұрын
@@bigoj7917 give you a tip, when your quarterback isn't playing well, your number of HOF's go way down. Let's be real. We should have won the Green Bay Superbowl, but as usual we sleepwalked thru the whole first halve and fell way behind. (Something still happening in 2021-22) I like Ben, but Bradshaw was money. Our teams in the early 80's showed when Bradshaw retired the whole team fell apart. When he did play we usual won.
@JPSimen
@JPSimen Жыл бұрын
His defence got him there. Terrible quarterbavj
@black2black2.07
@black2black2.07 2 жыл бұрын
I totally disagree.. Bradshaw played in a tougher league when it was legal to hit the quarterback up top.. Terry called his own plays..
@wongdon5907
@wongdon5907 2 жыл бұрын
Also got carried by the steel curtain
@hooverredman5167
@hooverredman5167 2 жыл бұрын
So 2 SB beats 4 and MVP that’s crazy
@sgprince06
@sgprince06 2 жыл бұрын
nah Terry Bradshaw got 4 SBs, an MVP, and 2 SB MVPs...way more accomplished than Ben...yall need to respect Bradshaw man
@stanmarsh5030
@stanmarsh5030 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely the most fair-weather fan I've ever seen! I'll never forget this man was clamoring for Tomlin to be traded so he could be the Cowboys HC 🤡‼️
@andrewhernandez8772
@andrewhernandez8772 2 жыл бұрын
This dude was cheering for the Cowboys and saying good things about them. Then when they lose he clowns on them. He does that with every team.
@stanmarsh5030
@stanmarsh5030 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewhernandez8772 yep but u know if he could only watch one team it would be the Cowboys for the clout
@dabackgroundguy
@dabackgroundguy 6 ай бұрын
Terry Bradshaw so average him and his team won four superbowls. God dam, imagine if he was considered good?
@SoapBark
@SoapBark 2 жыл бұрын
Bradshaw was a complete beast...people seem to forget that he was the fastest player on the entire team, ran harder than anyone on the team, and played extremely well in high pressure games. Perfect 1970s QB imo.
@clintdiaz5604
@clintdiaz5604 Жыл бұрын
I loved watching Bradshaw winning 4 SB’s in my my youth. But if you look at the team around him, without free agency, he had it made. Big Ben won 2 SB’s and went to 3 in an era of free agency. Look at the current or future HOF QB’s like Bree’s and Favre. The each only won 1 SB. Big Ben is tied with Elway and Peyton on SB wins. Ben easily first ballot HOF.
@davidthomas7161
@davidthomas7161 2 жыл бұрын
Some people know football some don't Terry Bradshaw had better players around him but he wasn't the quarterback that Big Ben was if Big Ben had played with the Steelers 70 team he would have 6 or 7 💍
@80steen44
@80steen44 2 жыл бұрын
Regardless of who's better you're showing your lack of NFL history knowledge. Bradshaw played in an era where you could chuck the reciever past 5 yds and there were no defenseless reciever rules. Ben was drafted by a team that had plenty of pieces, Bradshaw was drafted by the worst team in NFL history and thrown to the wolves with zero talent and those early years is the bulk of his interceptions. Once he had talent he called his own plays, won a league MVP, 2 Super Bowl MVPs and 4 Super Bowls in 6 years, back to back twice. He has a whopping 112.8 Super Bowl passer rating. You've never watched Bradshaw's highlights.
@whitewhale9012
@whitewhale9012 2 жыл бұрын
Ben wouldn't have had the luxury of watching all the great QBs that influenced his development if he played in the 70s. Plus his play style likely would have caused him far more injury issues as savage as defenses were back then. "We all stand on the backs of giants". Do you understand what I mean? Ben wouldn't be ben without the giants of the game.
@jamesanthony5681
@jamesanthony5681 2 жыл бұрын
If it were possible to have just one QB on the 1970's Steelers, who do you have, Terry or Ben? I have Terry. What about the Steelers from 2004-2021, Terry or Ben? I give the edge to Terry because of his arm, in a pass-first era.
@duskthunder9274
@duskthunder9274 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesanthony5681 no lol
@NowTheEndBeginsMinistries
@NowTheEndBeginsMinistries 2 жыл бұрын
Ryan Clark tells truth about Stephen A, good job.
@johnmcduggle4032
@johnmcduggle4032 2 жыл бұрын
And it's not even CLOSE!!!!! Terry's the equivalent to McMahon and Brad Johnson....
@whitewhale9012
@whitewhale9012 2 жыл бұрын
You're an absolute clown. 😅😅😅
@wills1483
@wills1483 Жыл бұрын
Terry Bradshaw Won an NFL MVP. Ben may have received 3 votes his entire career for MVP. Bradshaw is a tad better.
@JPSimen
@JPSimen Жыл бұрын
Bradshaw tried to give the other teams wins. Most interceptions ever!
@RebelutionaryMusic
@RebelutionaryMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Bradshaw won 3 Super Bowls in the clutch 🤷🏾‍♂️
@JohnSmith-nm4zd
@JohnSmith-nm4zd 2 жыл бұрын
Terry Bradshaw's career highlights: 4x Super Bowl winner 2x Super Bowl MVP 1x regular season MVP Only quarterback in NFL history to win back to back Super Bowls twice
@joeljohnson6137
@joeljohnson6137 2 жыл бұрын
He is the greatest Steelers QB an Ben number 2#
@bobonotrhys
@bobonotrhys 2 жыл бұрын
He was very disrespectful to Ben yesterday. He said we won't be discussing Ben tomorrow (today) on top of saying Thank God in a self serving disrespectful manner. We see he ended up talking about him today and kinda reeling in his attitude towards Ben today. He gets beside his self often on this show like his opinion is bigger than the athletes themselves
@davidshaffer4664
@davidshaffer4664 9 ай бұрын
Bradshaw has 4 super bowl Ring. Ben has 2
@mrmaxxx94
@mrmaxxx94 2 жыл бұрын
Big Ben easily better than Bradshaw and if Big Ben had the talent Bradshaw for the duration of his career, he would have rings on both fingers easily
@yahyatacneau8694
@yahyatacneau8694 2 жыл бұрын
What is Ryan Clark talking about?....
@mordyoberstein
@mordyoberstein 2 жыл бұрын
I think Stephen A in general is absurdly annoying. The notion that people are stupid enough to think that his antics are his legit views is insulting. Dude, it doesn't need to be a spectacle. Just have substance (hence Dan P. and Rich E. have their market). But his whole "shpiel" on Big Ben (and Stephen's been in NY long enough to know what "shpiel" means) is so far gone and beyond ridiculous. I don't blame Stephen A. I blame the producer who thought this angle was smart. Literally, jumping the shark - Fonzi says hi BTW.
@VICTOR-py7hn
@VICTOR-py7hn 2 жыл бұрын
Terry Bradshaw 4X Super Champion!
@PhillyBoy1234
@PhillyBoy1234 Жыл бұрын
Terry Bradshaw played with 9 other Hall of Famers on offense and defense. Most overrated quarterback in nfl history. Take away half those guys and he is not even close to hof.
@isaiahwatkins1502
@isaiahwatkins1502 2 жыл бұрын
Ben is a better talent but Terry played in a harder era.
@GILLISH
@GILLISH 2 жыл бұрын
i am going to take Terry Bradshaw 1 reason never losing a SB
@timothym33
@timothym33 2 жыл бұрын
Umm Terry Bradshaw Will Always be the best till someone else breaks 4 super bowls for the STEELERS then you have the best QB!! As it stands now 4 super bowls back to back twice is the best in my book for the steelers!!
@TheUnDisputedDoc.G
@TheUnDisputedDoc.G 2 жыл бұрын
Terry is the best QB the steelers ever had. Period.
@terrybutler3502
@terrybutler3502 2 жыл бұрын
220td 214it no he not that legendary steel curtain defenses is
@zct1393
@zct1393 2 жыл бұрын
Being from Pittsburgh, everyone here is a fair weather fan like Stephen A
@usawrestling2842
@usawrestling2842 2 жыл бұрын
Big Ben 2 super bowl wins,,,, moral compass 0 wins
@juinxxviii624
@juinxxviii624 2 жыл бұрын
Ryan Clark has lost his freaking mind!
@joshuatigner9315
@joshuatigner9315 3 күн бұрын
Terry Bradshaw is better than Ben
@SoapBark
@SoapBark 2 жыл бұрын
"Being the greatest passer in the NFL, that could be great for the player individually, but still, it is what you can accomplish while you are doing these things that make you a top-notch football player." Terry Bradshaw was a better winner of the big game. Terry Bradshaw was tougher (slightly) than Ben and ran faster/harder. Ben was more consistent. Ben was better at making 4th quarter comebacks. I rather have Ben for the regular season. I rather have Terry for the super bowl.
@kiloox8
@kiloox8 2 жыл бұрын
everytime stephan A talks his hairline keeps going back
@heirsperry870
@heirsperry870 2 жыл бұрын
SAS, we get it. You are ESPN. Not only did you not answer the question, but OG... you don't have to poke the bear with your takes, and follow it up with an explanation of why you're right. This is one of those moments (along with the Kobe/Kyrie segment) where it just ain't the time or place. Give it up to a hall of fame career and call it a day.
@joehooker7522
@joehooker7522 2 жыл бұрын
S.A.S. is right saying thank God Ben has been terrible the last 3 years and they couldn't prepare for the future without upsetting him
@fantasynutz6531
@fantasynutz6531 2 жыл бұрын
Big Ben was way better then Bradshaw!
@jdolo4670
@jdolo4670 2 ай бұрын
The Steelers could have drafted Archie Manning and won just as much if not more than Overrated Bradshaw
@davebeckham9607
@davebeckham9607 2 жыл бұрын
Absurd. Terry Bradshaw beat HOF-loaded Defences (Cowboys Doomsday Defence, Raiders 70's Defence, Minnesota's Purple People eaters) and beat them all. Yes he had that great Defence but remember; Defence isn't on the field when the Offence is. Big Ben won it twice against now-you-see-me-now-you-don't flash-in-the-pan teams. Burrows may not win this SB, but like Bradshaw before him and also Brady (now Belichick knows) has leadership powers that rouse a team, makes them WANT to take risks and brings intangibles to the WHOLE team that don't show in the QB's game stats. Bradshaw belongs to the very small, very elite group of 3 men who have won 4 or more Super Bowls; Brady, Bradshaw and Montana. Top that or eat it.
@paultomanio539
@paultomanio539 Жыл бұрын
Big Ben way better than Bradshaw by a long shot
@ascendotuum9586
@ascendotuum9586 2 жыл бұрын
Wrong!!! TB is the best QB for the Steelers.
@potentialxp3283
@potentialxp3283 2 жыл бұрын
And u may be right . I thank big Ben is better then Terry
@tywanstrong7938
@tywanstrong7938 2 жыл бұрын
Clark smoking rocks or dope TB is the best player in Steelers history 💯💯
@Q__tube
@Q__tube 2 жыл бұрын
Are you being serious?
@Alyrricyst
@Alyrricyst 2 жыл бұрын
Big Ben is a HOF and a legend but he ain't the best Steelers QB, Bradshaw is. There's something about four rings that beats two.
@zandermickens4392
@zandermickens4392 2 жыл бұрын
Stupid logic. Try hardee
@zandermickens4392
@zandermickens4392 2 жыл бұрын
Harder
@abc_12333
@abc_12333 2 жыл бұрын
Then Eli Manning is better than Drew Brees. 2 rings beats 1. Bill Russell would be better than Michael Jordan. 11 rings beats 6. See how that works?
@jayu7141
@jayu7141 2 жыл бұрын
as if win or lose rests on one person's game
@briandegaugh7992
@briandegaugh7992 2 жыл бұрын
The whole points is. Your first word on national tv was thank God. Instead of thank you. It was poor choice of words.
@MojusPrime
@MojusPrime 2 жыл бұрын
I agree
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