Big Brother Law comes into force on 1st October 2024 - Mallorca - Majorca

[@hazels27]

Thanks for the information. This system is going to be a hacker’s paradise!

[@Sean-h4l]

Yes that was my first thought! Haven't these decision makers heard of the old expression, "It's never a good idea to put all your eggs in one basket!" Or perhaps they don't care! Maybe this will be how the first half of Herr Schwab's prediction [You will own Nothing, but will be 'happy'] comes about?!!!

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

It is concerning.

[@vivabielsamot5828]

Won't affect me as 1) I never holiday in Spain 2) I would never give so much information in any case. Spain really are doing their damndest to obliterate their tourism trade with the protests and now this. In fact when the EES comes into force I won't be going anywhere in the EU cos I'm not a criminal so they don't need my fingerprints and biometrics , stuff them I'll go to holiday in places that welcome you without wanting yo know all the ins and outs of your life . Cyprus is not taking part so as I like greece it seems the logical place to go . This is all about control and people should push back and when their economy goes down the pan we can all have a good laugh!

[@NeaFrea]

"We decide on something, leave it lying around and wait and see what happens. If no one kicks up a fuss, because most people don't understand what has been decided, we continue step by step until there is no turning back." - J-C Juncker

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

Well, there's a lot of fuss being kicked up!!!

[@NeaFrea]

@@SteveandAnitainMallorca By whom? It's the same situation, which increasingly reminds me of governmental anarchism, in all European countries and from my literal point of view especially in the FR of Germany and the FR of Austria.

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

@@NeaFrea Here it is the hotel association, travel agents and car rental companies who are lobbying the government, and with some, small, success in that the implementation has been delayed until December.

[@fredretteketet]

Thats what they are doing indeed!😮

[@NeaFrea]

@@SteveandAnitainMallorca "... we continue step by step until there is no turning back." J-C J - Whereas Thomas Jefferson said: "I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies."

[@chrissansom2188]

The hackers must be rubbing their hands together. Don’t like the sound of this. Cheers 🍻

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

Security will be key.

[@davidwoodrow6634]

Thanks Steve , this is very concerning imagine being at the back of the queue whilst all the information is gathered 🙄 hackers will be rubbing their hands!

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

It's on hold for the moment.

[@dianeleahy3345]

I’ve just read that this has been cancelled until at least December. I personally don’t think they can enforce it.

[@pw4271]

I am coming over 5 october and emailed the hotel (santa lucia in palma nova) and they know nothing about it

[@Sean-h4l]

@dianeleahy3345 Where did you read about this being cancelled? Many thanks in advance!

[@dianeleahy3345]

@@Sean-h4l I read it in the Mallorca bulletin.

[@Eduardo-vd8kk]

Saludos Diane.

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

I have seen the article in the Majorca Bulletin. More wait and see!!!

[@martinbaker6532]

I wasn’t surprised to see ‘our safety’ would be the public justification for this. Perhaps my last visit to Barcelona in July will be my last…

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

I hope it doesn't put you off travelling.

[@stephenholmes1036]

Portugal is just as good.

[@englaso54]

Love Majorca but this sort of thing puts me off. There is plenty of other countries I can go without this hassle. Thanks for the info...👍🏻 information information

[@CasaMaryParadise]

Please do

[@billpugh58]

Good.

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

Hope it doesn't put you off coming.

[@simonch5140]

It does sound a vast amount of data but I think most, if not all, is provided when you book. I’ve just booked my apartment for next year and paid by credit card so they have those details, I’ve had to send a copy of my passport, I filled in a form with my home address, telephone number and the details of my party members. I’ve also booked my flight and passed on those details as requested by the apartment management company so they have arrival details. We also have the new visa system coming in next year so won’t that collect all this information? I must confess that the security of the information collected is a bit of a worry especially being Spain!

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

I think you are right, it is how the data gets passed on to the authorities and stored that is the issue.

[@panchopuskas1]

Why "especially being Spain"?

[@jennyjohnson9012]

Very informative Steve thankyou. However I find this very off putting. We didn't come to Mallorca this Summer and had a wonderful holiday in Corfu. I do miss Mallorca, but this hasnt made me want to return at all. I don't like my personal details being stored in this way. Very worrying! Far too risky in this day and age. Shame!

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

It does seem over the top!

[@primafacie6442]

@@SteveandAnitainMallorcathe administration overhead will be significant for each business, but certainly enormous at central government…….so there is clearly a return on this investment for somebody (it’s just not you or I)

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

@@primafacie6442 True

[@stephenholmes1036]

Portugal is just as good

[@AlfPane]

George Orwells 1984 is here bit by bit our freedom's are going to be taken away, if you think i am mad that is ok you keep on sleep walking

[@steveinstamford]

I totally agree with you and this isn't the only thing that is eating away at our freedoms

[@AlfPane]

@@steveinstamford I know what these psychopaths want to do to humanity and its truly frightening

[@buzzukfiftythree]

I think you’re right but there are reasons for the imposition of these new rules (and they don’t just apply to UK holidaymakers). The World is in a potentially dangerous conflict scenario, so I predict that other governments will impose more restrictions - some already have been doing so for years). But the reaction of tourists and travellers will be key here. If people stop travelling to an area, that will have an enormous negative impact on the economy. My guess is that the new rules will either be ignored by hotels etc. or they’ll be revoked in time.

[@primafacie6442]

Digital ID and Social Credit by stealth

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

I must read it again.

[@RandomlyAdventuring]

Thank you Steve for explaining this! I just watched (briefly) another KZbin video who clearly did it for the ‘views’. We can all sit back and watch how this rolls out, or, follow their demands. However, the Island will unfortunately suffer. Many people have already said that’s it no more Mallorca/ Spain for me. Apparently it will be rolled out across the whole of the EU. I saw Spanish people commenting “good riddance tourists” . I totally blame the You Tuber for their angle of starting arguments to monetise that video. Yet you, you did it for us. Thank you 😁

[@Esemptius]

Haughty English"man". Why don't you stay in Stinkapore-on-Thames if you don't like it?

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

Thank you

[@Jo-yt8vp]

I've just come back from Mallorca and hated it. Will gladly not go back.

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

I guess it doesn't suit everyone.

[@egyptianlotus4179]

Will never be going to Spain again

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

The law has been delayed.

[@panchopuskas1]

You will be sorely missed......

[@batcollins3714]

I'm sure the Spanish will be delighted.

[@steveg4334]

They are pushing this absurd rubbish throughout the west. Better off ditching your papers, and claiming asylum. Don't need to show them anything.

[@stephenholmes1036]

​@@panchopuskas1who are you to say what others think?

[@MalcolmCarden]

We arrive in palmanova 2nd October staying at the Sol palmanova, I just hope there is not a lot of people checking in at the same time as us.

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

It has been delayed, so it should be the same as usual.

[@carolinegoode9564]

Really is big brother watching us! Thanks for explaining it & hope you trip goes smoothly & you can tell us all about it 🙂

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

We are looking forward to our trip.

[@mrboutandabout]

Very useful information steve. We go to Spain 3 or 4 times a year so that's a lot of information they will have on us over a 3 year period. If your paying for accommodation at the hotel b&b ect if you pay by Google wallet on your phone I belive it makes up a one off card number so maybe that's one way of protecting your bank details . I'm taking my dad to salou on the 8th of October so I'll see if they ask for any more details Thanks for the information and have a nice trip both of you

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

Interesting about the Google wallet.

[@malachy1847]

@@SteveandAnitainMallorca One could also pay with generating those 'Disposable' Revolut Cards ... It's a great idea so that you're NOT charged later on that card by a Vendor.

[@dianeleahy3345]

Thanks for the information. I will be very interested to hear how you get on with this on your next trip, as soon we are off to Granada. Please keep us updated. I too don’t like the idea of my card details being spread around the internet, there is always a hacker. Anyway thanks Steve and enjoy your trip to Malaga.

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

Thanks Diane, will do.

[@melwhite6151]

Informative as always Steve. Lodge tonight so straight back into it.

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

We have our Installation next week.

[@steveg5003]

I wonder how many other countries are going to be busier because of this new law!!!

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

It has been delayed.

[@stephenholmes1036]

One of my sisters knew this was coming 3 years ago. Sold her place then and bought in Portugal and they will not be returning to Spain.

[@jamieopulence]

Brexit bro

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

The law does date back to 2021. It will become mandatory in December unless there is another delay. Portugal will have the EES next month and ETIAS next year, like the rest of the Schengen area,

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

Brexit doesn't help!!!

[@stephenholmes1036]

I don't visit mainland Europe bar Switzerland who don't have this EU nonsense. This will not be used in Portugal it is a Spanish decree. Brexit has precious little to do with it in all honesty. I also pay in cash so Spain is useless to some people, You do have my sympathy

[@stephenholmes1036]

Might I suggest you learn how to spell

[@fatboyslim3550]

Thanks for the news always informative 👍

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

No problem 👍

[@seanbreslin8225]

Adios Spain, will not be visiting again 😮

[@bradcobb3418]

we're devastated 😅😊

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

The law has been delayed.

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

Nothing to be too bothered about at the moment.

[@stephenholmes1036]

​@@bradcobb3418 really who are you to judge others?

[@thecritic81]

You voted for it. You got it,

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

And some are not going to like it!

[@stephenholmes1036]

Brexit has nothing to do with this, Have you read the documentation? It effects ALL visitors regardless of country.

[@chrisfinch3019]

WOW that's a lot of information

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

In the case of car rental it will be 69 items of information!

[@thornbottle]

Funny that next time I visit I think the below might apply I dont have a mobile phone or landline I dont use email so dont have an email address I live on a narrowboat so dont have a physical address wonder how they will deal with that

[@NeaFrea]

As far as we know socialist-communist govs always used to first dispossess non-compliant subjects ....

[@BigPaul3122]

They will probably make it an offence to withhold information or provide false data.

[@NeaFrea]

@@BigPaul3122 That could be the next step. Mandatory smartphones.

[@antonijaume8498]

Don’t fulfill the conditions to enter, don’t enter.

[@Sandra-r1l]

Your boat , easy .

[@puzzlering1]

Hi Steve, thank you for this, like yourself I have been following this story for a while now and have done a bit of research, yesterday I found an article published in the Sur in English, it is reporting on an a press release (24/09/24) from the Spanish interior ministry regarding this Royal decree, maybe you could have a look at it and tell what you think, as I am in the same predicament as yourself and going on holiday shortly. Thank you again Sam Ps I managed to find the Son Bougadelles car boot sale in October last year, thanks to your advice👍

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

It has now been delayed so we will have to see what the next move is.

[@pedrothewise2584]

glad i live hear, i dont think id bother.

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

We often say how lucky we are to live in Mallorca.

[@davidlarkham8954]

Stay away from Majorca folks. Island depends on tourists! Plenty of places in the Med to stay. See what happens to the islands economy!!

[@billpugh58]

Please stay away.

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

It's a choice some will make and the protesters will have succeeded in their aim.

[@cindyvillagechick514]

Those that give up freedom for security deserve neither.

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

Better safe than sorry comes to mind.

[@davidmorse1228]

We come 3rd Oct. Been coming twice a year for 26 years but it will be our last time

[@davidmorse1228]

@BobelSilencioso-g2i don't think our friends will agree with you.

[@Ingridfransson]

Why?

[@bradcobb3418]

😂

[@majorminor3367]

​@BobelSilencioso-g2i well done, what a stupid thing to say

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

The law has been delayed.

[@jackiecarlin9725]

Don’t sound good to me but thanks for the information ❤xx

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

It is concerning.

[@camfree1076]

This is everyone’s chance to pick which kind of world they want to live in. While some people are comforted by not owning anything and having government control their every move many are not willing to go quietly into more enslavement then we already have. Yes, Orwellian for sure. But for those who don’t like living under a nanny state you must resist. Even if it means your travel plans are thwarted. In my country after lockdown the mind control elite decided to make gyms, restaurants, entertainment venues and many types of shops off limits to those without vaccine passports. We were also told we could not leave our country without them. So, while some found ways around in order to partake of these things many others opted out and did not travel as well. Of course the ridiculousness ensued with travellers coming into the country having to pay to stay for a week at a Covid hotel selected by the government which triple charged them and gave them bread and water basically. Look, the majority just goes along to get along they will see their information sold on the dark web, have their property taken over while they are gone on trip, have their ID and bank accounts stolen and eventually be subject to the social credit score that almost nobody will win at. Stand up now or fall down later. Remember the elite have had a mission for decades to cull back the herd…us. How do you think they will get rid of 13 our 14 people after all. The belt will tighten until there is no more you. So take heed and say no to the corporate government and any of their dastardly deeds for they never have loved you…they just made it seem that way so you would comply.

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

We all have choices.

[@gedtierney374]

I agree I’m a bit uncomfortable with this. It’s not just Mallorca, it’s all Spain. It’s not just Brits. Although a lot of people who go to Spain who don’t like it, would like the same information being collected by the government of people entering the UK. We’ll have to see how this hits the Spanish tourism market. If it doesn’t impact them too badly I can see other countries adopting this model including the UK.

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

I think you are right.

[@debbiegarza1287]

Oh good grief!! This was exhausting!! Now I would need a break from vacation!!

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

Time to plan your next trip!

[@theforbiddenexplorerswitha2796]

Have they not exstened it now untill December 2nd but they will be asking for your full phone number credit and bank card details full name date of birth how load of personal info that you would not normal have to give any one and they are saying it's to help with terrorism

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

Yes, it is delayed until December.

[@theforbiddenexplorerswitha2796]

@@SteveandAnitainMallorca thank god for that I'm flying on Monday untill the 1st going ro playa del ingles definitely won't be booking Spain again as won't be comfortable giving personal info like that lol

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

@@theforbiddenexplorerswitha2796 We'll have to see what happens in December.

[@Hotelechomike]

European law trumps everything within the EU - but Spain could ignore that for some time at least. Others do so (there is an example in Germany which affects private pilots where Germany requires extra "security checks" which goes against EU regulations).

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

We'll see what happens in December.

[@Jeff-ub4lr]

In France, when we land with our plane in airport with security and scanners, we are obliged to pass through them before take off. Totally stupid as we can fly freely from any field.

[@johnbussey2979]

I will never go on holiday to Spain again. I’m not giving all my bank details over to be stored for three years if that’s true why do the government need all this information?

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

The law has now been delayed until December.

[@jonniesantos]

Thanks for this Steve. So this sounds to be in addition to ETIAS? This is a lot more than marketing data. Hmmm…

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

This is completely separate to ETIAS and is only in Spain, as far as I know.

[@pippass9005]

They know all this already. My guess is it's another level of inconvenience to convince folk to beg for/ adapt digital ID, for safety and convenience.

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

They have some of this, they will be asking for a lot more personal data.

[@maryrosed8475]

Is this just for British tourists or all tourists? We are Irish. We love Spain but this sounds like hassle and as you say private information stored for 3 years.

[@yellowdotje6278]

All tourists.

[@maryrosed8475]

@@yellowdotje6278 Thank you

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

All tourist, including Spanish residents, but it has been delayed to December, then we'll see.

[@dennisfraser6896]

Havent they realised you are now classified as third world.But you cant do that to us we are English and we are privliged.

[@greattobeadub]

All Italian hotels get a copy of your ID or passport card and have done for years.

[@hilarybramley7529]

Exactly, along with several other countries, especially the U.S.

[@stephenholmes1036]

How about your bank details, telephone number, telephone numbers?

[@stephenholmes1036]

​@@hilarybramley7529I've never been asked for it in Alabama or Missouri?

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

And in Spain too.

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

and a lot more data too.

[@simonbarnes9600]

Just open up a Starling bank account and use it purely for your holiday payments, if there is no money in the account there is nothing to take.

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

That could be one answer.

[@annemariebell8082]

They making anything easy lots of people cannot use Internet

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

From next year you will have to, or get someone to do it for you. Travel agents will be able to help.

[@bluestreak2701]

A good reason to change your holiday destinations. There is plenty of places to visit.

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

It has been delayed until December.

[@Turnthatbiglightoff]

Everyone is being monitored at some level.. this has been going on for years.

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

Indeed

[@antondrake4794]

TOTAL CONTROL

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

It is going that way

[@marianrussell6089]

Well if we hand over this stuff our banks should protect us against fraud if this is a law. We were asked for credit details in a hotel in portals nous in april , we had no trouble. Its all invasion of privacy and a ploy to stop us going to spain on holiday, maybe to cut tbe number of tourists, i dont know. But nothing will stop me from coming to majorca we love it here. We are here now for 10 days its a great place to visit❤.❤❤❤

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

Hope you had a lovely time.

[@TonyMcGreal]

Very interesting 👍👍

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

Thank you

[@stephenholmes1036]

Switzerland is a far nicer country to visit and these EU regulations obviously have no effect. No limit on how much money you can spend on items. No anti tourist protests and its very clean and friendly

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

This isn't and EU law, it's a Spanish law. Switzerland is part of the Schengen area so they will be part of the the EES in November and the ETIAS next year. There seems to be no escape! www.euronews.com/travel/2024/05/24/overcrowded-swiss-village-considers-venice-style-entry-fee-for-visitors-who-arrive-by-car

[@stephenholmes1036]

Then I won't be affected I'm quite happy in the UK as a farmer I'll simply stay here. I have great sympathy for you though

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

@@stephenholmes1036 Thank you.

[@alcord2540]

Thats going to take a lot of civil servants to process the information.What happens if the system gets hacked?.

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

I think it will be an automated system that the police can search as, and when they need to for an investigation.

[@thecycle2worker152]

Great article Steve, very informative but nothing they don’t or can’t do ate home, at least the Spanish are being upfront about it.

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

Thank you

[@geraldgambatesa6497]

Hi Wonder if that applies to the likes of us,who have holiday homes here as non resident who have family and friends who stay over?? Bit off putting I guess

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

No, only people who charge and are registered for tourist stays (B&Bs, Hotels, Camps, etc).

[@davidpring9108]

Do they really want tourists?

[@bradcobb3418]

nope

[@aliengrey6052]

No

[@stephenholmes1036]

​@BobelSilencioso-g2icorrect

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

It makes you wonder.

[@buzzukfiftythree]

It will negatively impact on tourism (perhaps that’s what is wanted, who knows), but my bet is that the decree will be withdrawn within a few months if it does appear to be having negative economic impact. Is it an infringement of civil liberty? That’s debatable. I guess one could argue that a country is entitled to impose whatever rules that it likes to aid government control. The amount of, and the detailed nature of the information, appears excessive. It’s important to remember that they’re not singling out the UK or discriminating against us - the rules will apply to anyone staying in the country (not clear if it also applies to other EU member state’s citizens, I’m assuming not). It would certainly put me off travelling there. What appears to be happening here (and in some other countries too) is a gradual rowing back of personal freedoms and freedom of movement towards ‘authoritarian’ type control. The World is a dangerous place right now, and in many areas on a pseudo wartime footing. It is inevitable that impacts on personal freedoms and increases government controls.

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

It applies to all, but it has now been delayed until December.

[@bradcobb3418]

pretty sure it is Eu law for all our 27 countries.😊

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

@@bradcobb3418 It comes from the decreto 633/2021, which is a Spanish law and only applies to Spain. It has now been delayed until December, but there is bound to be more lobbying from all concerned.

[@bernidaml8774]

Wonder if my Monzo card details would suffice for their purposes?

[@antonijaume8498]

If you are a Briton, you would need a passport to enter any Schengen country.

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

We will have to wait and see.

[@nf5416]

one word ... sovereignty ... second word security ....

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

Interesting that Brexit was all about sovereignty. Spain seems to have sovereignty within the EU.

[@traceystones5876]

Enough said I won’t be going back to Spain.There’s plenty of places to go

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

Sounds like the protestors are getting their way.

[@charlytaylor1748]

I wonder if they have all those details for the north african and syrian squatters in cerezo, agustina, san Pablo etc. in Zaragoza. The ones that openly deal drugs.

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

I wonder

[@st.george007]

Spain has a rite to defend itself.

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

Agreed.

[@stephenholmes1036]

Right

[@happyhermit2022]

If Spain wants tourists this is a major deterrent...people will just go somewhere else..

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

I'm sure that some will go elsewhere.

[@Sandra-r1l]

​@@SteveandAnitainMallorcaWhy don't you go with them if you hate It so much.

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

@@Sandra-r1l We live in Spain!!!

[@Sandra-r1l]

@@SteveandAnitainMallorca Stick Up for us then.

[@raefmole4309]

Been in and out of Spain for the last 40 years lived there for 6 years won’t ever be coming again as long as these rules exist looking to further afield out of Europe their loss not mine

[@jamieopulence]

We shall miss you sorely, when spain sets yet another record for visitor numbers next year ❤

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

The rules have not been implemented yet, postponed until December.

[@markpink1729]

Looks like the Spanish tourist industry is going to take a big hit.

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

We will see.

[@stuwhite2337]

What if you refuse and what about the right to be forgotten in GDPR?

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

GDPR could be an issue. There may be a breach in EU law, particularly for minors. The implementation has been delayed until December, but once implemented if you refuse to give your data then no keys!!!

[@stuwhite2337]

@@SteveandAnitainMallorca I travel a lot for work and name, email, mobile and home address are all I ever get asked for all across Europe, the US and the middle east.

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

@@stuwhite2337 Spain are trying to introduce more details.

[@stuwhite2337]

@@SteveandAnitainMallorca it won't be popular.

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

@@stuwhite2337 I'm sure it won't.

[@finbarrdolan]

Pretty straightforward problem-reaction-solution ploy, text book. Problem- burdened by having to give and collect this data, reaction- must be an easier way to do this, solution-digital ID. The solution is already prepared but how to get people to accept this infringement of privacy?

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

A valid point.

[@Easternborders]

been thinking about returning to Majorca, that will no longer be the case.

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

Mallorca is still a great place to visit.

[@onewheel9961]

The only additionally new data is dte of birth. You are already giving up all the rest

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

Your date of birth is on your passport/ID

[@jaywalker3087]

I am not a number, sheep and I think critically...... I play the System at their own game.... Over the years dealing with ' The Man's , I've learned some tricks..... There are other places to go to.... Too many Brits in Spain. I'd rather holiday away from them....

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

It's hard not to be a number in the modern world!

[@JohnWayne-w2g]

Don't they already have our names, DOBs and photos, from our passports?

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

Yes, but they will be asking, and storing, a lot more questions.

[@JohnWayne-w2g]

@@SteveandAnitainMallorca presumably something to do with the louts that frequent those pristine shores?

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

@@JohnWayne-w2g maybe

[@pennybaxter4]

the Spanish economy is doing very well “ possibly the most growth than anywhere in Europe .

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

Mallorca does seem to be doing well, for the most part.

[@lffit]

To do with illegal immigrants living there, Trump in the US claims they are voting in the next election, which I doubt so without proof? Tax evasion seems imo to be the principal reason! As far as I am concerned I met my French wife in Majorca a long time ago, we have been now married for 50 years, after living many years in Australia in 2002 we settled in the South of France, fond memories of Majorca!

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

Congratulations on your 50 years. We are catching you up.

[@hilarybramley7529]

What's the fuss about? This is standard information that you hand over when booking into a hotel in many countries, especially the States. Why do the British feel that this shouldn't apply to them?

[@billpugh58]

Coz “special”😂

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

It is more the fact that the information is then going to be shared.

[@hs964]

Not good but every time we post, so much information is taken about us. Not just physical things like where you live and age ( which many people here share ), it also shares your personal, political and psycholgical data! This can be collated to build up even more knowledge about us. "If you haven't paid for the product, YOU are the product " 😮

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

Very true.

[@Ja.getamoveon]

I won't be giving my bank details out. Most info's on your passport which they look at anyway.

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

They get your bank/card details when you pay I guess.

[@kathleenkeane4364]

What happens after the three years?

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

Supposedly your details are erased!!!

[@AnnabelleJARankin]

O spit it out!

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

Trying my best!!!

[@AnnabelleJARankin]

@@SteveandAnitainMallorca Don't worry, I was being impatient and humorous at the same time!

[@steveinstamford]

So Spain thinks it can just override all international agreements on the use amd validity of Passports.

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

It would seem so.

[@dorcasbass5585]

Watch tourism plummet like a stone . But isn't that just whay they want?

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

Maybe they will have achieved their aim.

[@roberthoward9100]

Reading some of these comments people really need to calm down … 99% of the list of details are already known by the Spanish government because it’s all linked to your passport… the only thing that’s not is your bank account details… so use your heads and just take a pre paid currency card simple

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

That seems to be one solution.

[@hs964]

Good idea!

[@mehriravel5619]

Thanks for the info. so is this for European countries?

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

Only Spain

[@janepearson5802]

Powers that be dont want us travelling.

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

It certainly looks as though they want to keep their eyes on us.

[@RickyAllen-j8u]

Been coming to Mallorca for 30 years but this year was the last and that goes for most of the ppl I know who go ,, the airport will be a absolute nitemare next year with crazy ques to get out the airport.. and then when u get to your hotel will be the same nothing but ques as there is no automatic way of doing it ,, when you arrive at your hotel they want your passport credit card details phone number email address,and photo ,, it’s a joke it will ruin tourism on the island ,, oh well there of lots of other places that will gladly take my money without the hassle

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

I don't think the airport will be much different. The electronic scanners are already in use and seem to work well. Next year we will have ETIAS (no date fixed yet), but that is all done before you get to the airport, so that shouldn't be a problem. This new law about collecting data could be an issue, if it comes into force. It has now been delay to December. We'll have to wait and see, but most of that data could be collected before you travel.

[@RickyAllen-j8u]

@@SteveandAnitainMallorca the airport scanners will be like when u go to the states they take forever 3 hours sometimes to get through depending on volume of ppl .. those machines are not great fingerprints and photos will cause loads of queuing for brits ,, they will just stop going I lived on the island for 7 years I’ve still got loads of friends out there they are all worried about how this will affect ppls decision to come to the island

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

@@RickyAllen-j8u The scanners are already in use in Mallorca and cause few delays. The finger print will be introduced in November, when it is quieter, so shouldn't be too much of a problem. It does, however seem to be putting some people coming to the island, but it will be the same in other EU countries.

[@RickyAllen-j8u]

@@SteveandAnitainMallorca I can actually have 10 days in Dubai cheaper than 10 days in palma nova that’s something I don’t think I’d ever say

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

@@RickyAllen-j8u I guess some people will do exactly that.

[@goldgeologist5320]

I can see my credit cards being compromised.

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

It could be a problem.

[@mikeburton7077]

My family have a home in Spain and we could stay for free ,does thi stii apply?

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

No, only is you are being charged for your stay

[@alanpashley6396]

Will put a lit more people off from coming too much information wanted.

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

It probably will.

[@Lance_Arn]

A simple fix.. Dont go to Spain.

[@CasaMaryParadise]

Well said

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

And some will do that.

[@greattobeadub]

Spain is taking back control. You’ve a problem with that?

[@hilarybramley7529]

Well said

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

The problem is about the amount and security of the data that is being collected. It sounds a little uneasy to hear of a government taking control of its citizens.

[@TheBard56]

Taking back control 😂

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

Just control.

[@bh1529]

Well Spain is now off my bucket list along with Great Britain.

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

It is still a great place to visit and live.

[@yellowdotje6278]

They also want to know weather you can afford your holiday and weather you are not going to be overspending! This means they have access to look at your bankdata. This is just disgustingly implementing their agenda. All this with the excuse `security`and `terrorism`.... but the borders keep on to be widely open....This is how they will make people avoid travelling, bit by bit we are driven into staying at home, close to our homes (15 minute cities will come to live more rapidly than we think). I read yesterday that this rule has been postponed for the 3rd time... but for how long?

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

It is being delayed to December... for the moment.

[@michaelgray9603]

Work of the elites, control.

[@primafacie6442]

This is identity data gathering to facilitate Digital Identity, just add biometrics (which big tech hold) and voila!

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

The biometrics will be collected on entry to the Schengen area from November.

[@GTJ65]

Wow sounds like covid has come back regarding form filling in…..

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

It is a bit like that.

[@soapytowel1565]

Isn’t it a case of if you’ve got nothing to hide, you’ve got nothing to worry about? I’ve just visited a dentist in Spain & I had to provide a good deal of this same information before I got any treatment

[@kevo7258]

It's got nothing to do with that at all, the more people that have your private details such as bank details, D.O.B, name, address the more chance of these details being leaked or hacked.

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

I would like to think so. The thing that bothers me is the amount of personal data that is being shared and the security of that data.

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

That would be my concern.

[@juliawigger9796]

Don't know what your complaining about. You all wanted to stay in EU! This was in their plans 20 years ago! Its for everyone, not just British.,

[@Esemptius]

You don't even know how to write "you're". "Educated" in England no doubt. Glad you're out.

[@juliawigger9796]

@Esemptius oh gosh shock horror. I can't be bothered to correct so called spell check! Are you running around with your sanctimonious ego hanging out between your legs, screaming oh Look I've corrected someone whom I don't like their opinions ? Go back to playing video games dearie. Couldn't give a sh*t what you think.

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

This is not an EU law.

[@chris-non-voter]

Thanks for the info, I will not be going to Spain or any other country that requires this data. They have your home address and you are in Spain, you get home to find you have been burgled and you bank account has been emptied 😂

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

That's a thought.

[@jacqueline970]

The Spanish auth want to know everything its nothing new,you cant buy anything over 2k without paperwork from the local townhall When I bought my 2nd house I had to send proof were I had got the money from,but on the flip side the TIE ID card is brilliant use it everywhere esp the bank at least they know its me 😃

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

I like having an ID card.

[@niknoks7638]

Nothing to do with mass immigration then?

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

Not this particular law

[@Ingridfransson]

Dont panic😂

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

Exactly!

[@spartacusgorbash]

wont be going to Spain then 🙄🙄😏😏

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

The law has been delayed.

[@janettetaylor8760]

This is WEF want Ur information u might as well go home .

[@SteveandAnitainMallorca]

It will make life for criminals harder.