Big Daddy Deluxe Swag Easy Pack Up

[@Josh83ization]

Mate, I can't thank you enough!!!! My swag has been sitting in my loungeroom for 6 months and my wife isn't happy. First time putting my swag away and into its bag, only used twice and I had absolutely no hassle at all!!!! Your a bloody legend! Thank you so much!

[@gavinswanson666]

To easy Josh....... happy wife, happy life !😂

[@markandkim66]

My son knows an even easier way, he gets me to do it.🤨🇦🇺

[@gavinswanson666]

I hope he is old enough to shout his old man a few beers !!

[@crtney]

Came back to this video just to say THANK YOU!!! I’ve fought with my swag for years. Had to dry it out from my wknd trip and watched this earlier. Wow - best method! Thanks so much mate! You’re a lifesaver

[@gavinswanson666]

Thanks for the kind words and glad to of helped👍👍

[@marcpgl]

I just bought one of these and have never done it so this is a great help thanks mate!

[@gavinswanson666]

Glad to help.

[@StephenCastelino]

Great video thanks mate. Had just bought 2 and was getting nervous about the packup until I saw this! Thanks again

[@gavinswanson666]

Glad to help Steve 👍👍

[@paulwilberforce9659]

Good video , probably makes more sense to have the straps laying flat under the swag so they're ready to go when you roll it up

[@TeknacoolMarketing]

You da man Gavin. Great teaching style mate. Leave one end for air to escape the "Roll Knee Roll Knee Roll Knee ... Roll Knee. Strap up. Put Canvas bag over ... Too easy!!! Well done.

[@gavinswanson666]

Thanks Chris . Much appreciated.

[@daphsteve]

Both ends open for air to escape

[@jpcbrother]

Very helpful, just packed my one up for the first time !

[@gavinswanson666]

Glad to help 👍👍

[@TheHairyhunter]

Thanks, very helpful. Looks like I got an older version. I don't have the straps attached to the swag. I always pulled the mattress out first and struggled trying to fit it into the bag separately.

[@gavinswanson666]

Hi, mine's pretty old, maybe you got a faulty one from new. Glad I could help though, happy camping👍👍

[@31kiw]

When I see a pair of beachcombers I know I'm about to learn something. Great vid, thanks mate

[@gavinswanson666]

The good old 4wd of thongs !!! Thinking about doing a clip with them in all sorts of scenarios 🤣🤣

[@Cicada4WD]

Thanks Gav. Worked a treat 👌🇦🇺

[@gavinswanson666]

Happy to help👍

[@stuartwatson3178]

just got my Big daddy swag haven't used it yet thanks for the demo

[@gavinswanson666]

To easy , once you get it right it's really easy.Cheers Gavin

[@noigala]

Thanks, mate! I've learned lesson 101 on swagging. 👌

[@gavinswanson666]

Happy to help, such an old vid now ! Still standing the test of time !!! Wish Kings would atleast send me a thankyou email.

[@mattholley3642]

That’s a proper Australian shed. Appreciate the how-to!

[@gavinswanson666]

Cheers Matt 👍👍

[@robmacgregor2190]

Thanks Gavin Took your advice. Made my pack up a lot less stressful cheers Rob

[@gavinswanson666]

Glad to help Rob 👍👍

[@subatomic10]

You're a good ol Aussie Legend mate ! Worked a treat ! Cheers

[@gavinswanson666]

Thanks for the kind words !!!👍👍

[@jessicapull9133]

Great vid! Made it look super easy.. taking mine out this weekend for the first time (it has been seasoned tho) cheers!!

[@gavinswanson666]

Too easy, glad to have helped. Have a great weekend away👍👍

[@RonByg]

Just bought the Dune 4wd King Titan Deluxe from Anaconda and taking it away for the first time this weekend. Managed to get it rolled up no worries but after watching gave me peace of mind I did it right :) Cheers!

[@gavinswanson666]

Cheers, have fun!

[@tokken1122]

I got a double darche dusk til dawn Similar design and I found this clip useful. Thank you for this

[@gavinswanson666]

Glad I could help .

[@roytherhodesian4029]

Love ya work ....my tip is pit the poles inside as you start the first roll .....gets it nice and stiff and tight 👍

[@gavinswanson666]

Bloody great idea Roy !

[@damienfrizzell9394]

then u can just ditch the pole bag away

[@badlordboris6238]

Never had a problem, I have the wife helping squash out the air as we roll it up so it works nice and quick :)

[@UsoUnknown]

This is exactly what I was looking for, cheers 🙏🏾💯

[@gavinswanson666]

Not a problem, glad to help!

[@purge98]

Can you show us how to pack up the 100mm self inflating mattress and put it in the same bag as the swag?

[@gavinswanson666]

Hi purge98, I did this vid years ago when the swags were first coming out. I would say pull out the self inflating mattress and deflate then put back into the swag and roll as usual. I`m no expert what so ever but I have rolled my brothers with the original 70mm standard mattress with a big W eggshell mattress topper and fitted sheets with no problems. Hope this helps.

[@jayde7904]

Cheers. Just bought one (my first swag) this is a great help especially for lone camping!!

[@gavinswanson666]

To easy Jayde, glad to help.

[@rogerpope8449]

Very helpful video, seeing as they don't come with pack down advice..wish I'd watched this earlier..cheers

[@gavinswanson666]

To easy Roger👍👍

[@weedoman1971]

Just rolled mine for the first time. Thanks for the tips. Still a prick of a job :)

[@jackgluis1111]

thanks mate that help so much im just a kid and i had no clue how to do it love yah THANKS FROM JACK

[@gavinswanson666]

Glad to help Jack 👍👍

[@stevej.6674]

I thought there was going to be some special trick shown that I didn’t know about, but this just shows how to pack a swag. Seems like “common sense” isn’t so common by going though the comments 🤣

[@poyntz55]

Cheers Gav, worked a treat

[@Tony-fg4rf]

Thanks bro you improved my life

[@jenniferspear6436]

ive just bought one,thanx for the video,will help alot

[@gavinswanson666]

Glad I could help, happy camping Jennifer 👍👍

[@richnegs5828]

Thanks mate, good to see a bloke not pissin in the wind with it. Waiting for mine to show up today. 👍

[@gavinswanson666]

Thanks Rich, glad I could help. !

[@hypehoops]

Cheers gav, very helpful mate.

[@gavinswanson666]

Cheers David, filmed this years ago, still glad this is still helping people !! Over 40000 views showing how to roll up a kings swag ! Thanks for the feedback mate👍👍

[@garymitchell4592]

Thanks for the video, haven't got mine yet but this is a big help👍

[@gavinswanson666]

To easy Gary, enjoy your camping!👍👍

[@irazranazeren2234]

This is so helpful especially for a newbie like me thank you

[@gavinswanson666]

Not a problem, glad to be of help.

[@marksessions5179]

Been putting off doing it with the mattress in for ages. Great video made. Was hard work but in the bag and looks like it was never opened. Cheers 🍻

[@gavinswanson666]

Thanks Mark , happy to help.👍

[@rhysabela7003]

That’s how I pack mine I was figuring out another way I can pack it plus fit in the kings sleeping bags in the one bag

[@gavinswanson666]

Cheers for the comment Rhys, I pack mine with a fitted bottom sheet, a sheet and a doona. I do have an older version so it has plenty of stretch but the canvas bag they sell separately has heaps of room. Happy camping 👍👍

[@michellesmith8512]

Hmmm I’ve seen you do it, now I wonder if I can do it. Usually ask my male friends to do it for me, but now it’s covered in mud/sand from the last trip so I need to unroll it, clean it up before packup and prep for next trip

[@gavinswanson666]

Hi Michelle, cheers for the comment. You'll be right, once those first few rolls are tight, keep it going with your knees (I say that a few times🤣🤣🤣, had a few beers) and it will go together! Happy camping👍👍🍺

[@johnbirch3759]

Great video saved me a lot of mucking around thanks a lot!

[@TasHikingAdventures]

i seen you had a video at 6mins im like wtf then i realized how fkn simple you make it look done well, just about to try mine after seasoning it and got my first swag, adventure kings need to hire you for future vids mate haha

[@gavinswanson666]

Cheers Tas, I'd love to do a vid for them and also let them know that the original canvas bags should be standard as mine was years ago not an added extra. Cheers Gav

[@TasHikingAdventures]

@@gavinswanson666 well i wrtapped her up with no breeze mate with matress in it so done well the tip is to undo those end flap doors so all the air escapes, should do a video on the buckle bits where you tie that rope bit up i just get confused and fkn tie it up after going threw the first loop haha great vid thanks for the future advice paid off well boys haha like my xbox video got like 16 thousand views on how to beat a bossfight lol people dont know untill ya try and it paid off done well

[@gavinswanson666]

@@TasHikingAdventures cheers for the great comments. I`ll do a little clip for the buckle just for you buddy!! Shouted myself a gopro so it`ll be good for the practice. Glad the advice worked, cheers again mate.

[@TasHikingAdventures]

@@gavinswanson666 keep eye on my channel heaps of camping and hiking vids to come! all good mate best of luck and if you come down hit me up for a beer cheers love hobart

[@pcwallybower]

Thanks a heap Gavin, saved me a lot time and effort!

[@gavinswanson666]

To easy, glad to help.

[@elysian95]

I think these particular 'swags' are more along the lines of a tent .

[@gavinswanson666]

I agree mate, old school swags were on the ground and in ya face! If rain came in 38 degree night time heat, they were a pain! BUT, our pioneers lived in them and survived. At the end of the day, they are canvas, like the original ones, just not in ya face. Whatever anyone wants to call them, as long as we are enjoying our wonderful country, who cares!! It was never my intent to glamorise these things, just thought I'd help out a little.👍

[@Maxiakt]

I have one that i haven't used yet ..thanks for the tips on packing it away

[@gavinswanson666]

To easy, I've just recently found out that the new swags come in a lighter bag with the heavy duty bag like mine sold for extra. Same principle but I haven't seen the new bags. Cheers Gavin

[@WatchmanDownunder]

Cheers... appreciate your effort and simple instructions :)

[@daphsteve]

WOW Thankyou,just bought one, you make it look so easy

[@gavinswanson666]

Hopefully the new bags they come with work the same, they should. Glad to help !

[@d4n94bris]

Great video. Thank you 👍

[@Psychopsam]

Awesome video. Thank you.:)

[@BillandSue]

We have just bought one.... thanks for the great tips mate, excellent video

[@gavinswanson666]

Thanks for the great review. When I originally did the vid, Kings had the heavy duty canvas bag as standard but I have rolled one up for a mate with the thinner bag. My kids laughed at me when I said I want to do the you tube thing to show how to roll up a swag.... after 20000 views, they are now swallowing their words !! I have purchased a hero 7 about 6 months ago to try and put a little more content on but I am struggling to keep up with technology, and I`m only 48 !!!!!! Just remember KNEES, KNEES , KNEES LOL.

[@BillandSue]

@@gavinswanson666 Im 61, and me and the wife can roll it on our knees haha

[@daverieck6352]

yes just got mine in the mail. Thanks for the tips

[@josephbloggs580]

Thanks for that.

[@thejrippleffect]

Hi Gavin thanks very much. That was very helpful. Have you ever experienced a dud swag. My first one got all wet inside from the rain even after I seasoned it😔

[@gavinswanson666]

Hi Joanne, I`ve only ever had my 2 swags so I cant really comment BUT in saying that, as a mass produced product there may be some that will fail. Just make sure that when you close up your swag if it is raining, that you make sure all those zip flaps are folded over Cheers for the response.

[@HazzCraft]

Video shot in every second aussie evers garage

[@gavinswanson666]

I know right!! Just enough room too roll a swag 🤣🤣🤣

[@davidsmith-ws4bz]

Good video. Thanks

[@gavinswanson666]

Glad to of helped👍👍

[@yindyamarra]

Exactly how I do mine, love my swag

[@gavinswanson666]

Love mine to, chuck it in the boat or the 4wd and sleep where ever !

[@yindyamarra]

Gavin Swanson best swag I think I’ve owned, the sagging is a minor problem

[@Damien487]

did that just have the mattress in it? The website states it can be packed away with two sleeping bags and 2 pillows. Managed to wrestle it in the bag, decent workout but does fit. Wish they'd make the tie down straps a little longer though.

[@gavinswanson666]

Hi Damien, Yes mine has the mattress and a fitted sheet and sheet on top. Mine is years old now and fits well,but I have rolled my brothers swag with the newer bag and I believe it has more room. I will say but, the new straps are shit compared to the older ones like mine. He purchased 2 basic straps from bunnings and uses those after snapping his. Cheers for the response and glad to help.

[@lilianabaker206]

Thanks for this, champion.

[@gavinswanson666]

Glad to help 👍👍👍

[@molewil7557]

"This could be done with 6 stubbies' Cheers mate never thought i'd be giggling watching a swag packup video, theres a first for everything

[@gavinswanson666]

Cheers, I'm a bit of clown.... better than walking around sad hey !!

[@mathewsmith8073]

Great video mate! 👍 Helped alot!!

[@gavinswanson666]

Cheers for the feedback Mathew.

[@jorisvanimhoff9722]

Djeez they are big when in the bag - not sure if they will fit in the car ok - i got boards on the roof

[@jeremiahsimbiken9827]

Really helpful thanks mate !!

[@KR7PT]

How's the quality years on? Hard to beat the price but the Darche Dusk To Dawn looks awesome.

[@gavinswanson666]

Hi Nathan, the swag itself is in great condition. The poles at both ends have been replaced with their new ally ones. I've had a bit of run in with kings in relation to the price of the poles and their lack of correspondence with complaint emails. I might sorce the poles and make some coin myself and still be cheaper than them.

[@safekraka]

Nice one mate. I have one on the way. Prob saved me a few swear words :)

[@noodlesmetal]

Yeah cheers man. Fuck I was taking the mattress out and rolling them separately. Bought separate straps for the mattress. If only I used my brain ha ha.

[@gavinswanson666]

Glad to of helped👍👍

[@noodlesmetal]

@@gavinswanson666 Even the part about only unclipping half the rail and then sliding it out. So helpful. Cheers. We just got another one for the kids to share. Great tips.

[@ipsy6170]

The knees are important

[@ryanfollett2698]

Great video, thanks mate!

[@gavinswanson666]

Cheers Ryan, been years since I filmed that on my old phone but it is still helping people out an that is satisfying to me.

[@damienfrizzell9394]

aw yeh made that looks so easy lol

[@philhaizelden3362]

bloody handy. thanks mate

[@gavinswanson666]

Glad to help !

[@kelly-annebrowne4445]

Hi, I brought one recently and struggling to roll it up :( its hard for me not very strong. Your video does make it look very easy :)

[@gavinswanson666]

Hi Kelly-Anne, if you can, do the same thing as I do but get someone beside you as well. Make sure someone holds it while the other person tightens up the 2 straps. Hope this helps and cheers for the comment.

[@idoshorts9402]

Thanks Very helpful!?!

[@Jamie-McD]

I just bought one mate. Is there anything i need to do to 'season' it for waterproofing or mould etc? Cheers.

[@jeffallard9430]

Hey Mate. Did you say you never season the bag? If so, may I ask why not? Thanks.

[@fromunderthebridge5274]

Did you have you sleeping gear in then when you rolled it up? Pillows.and sleeping bag?

[@gavinswanson666]

Hi, I have a bottom fitted sheet , a top sheet and a light blanket. I carry my boomerang pillow and a heavier blanket in the car.

[@fromunderthebridge5274]

@@gavinswanson666 ok thanks. A mate told me to just leave my bedding in there and roll it up, pillow sleeping bag and all, but it's pretty chunky

[@VirtualOz]

Thanks 😁

[@drew5763]

I think too many try to put it in the bag rather than putting the bag over it and in

[@gavinswanson666]

They do the same with gazebos.

[@daphsteve]

LOL Guilty

[@TasHikingAdventures]

@@gavinswanson666 do it with matress in it mate or is it lol?

[@gavinswanson666]

@@TasHikingAdventures that roll up is with the mattress in and a fitted sheet and cover sheet. I made that vid a few years ago now and my boys said that no one will watch it...... proved them wrong !!! now they are telling me to get a gopro and take things more serious. Can`t wait to get with the crowd !!! LOL

[@TasHikingAdventures]

@@gavinswanson666 that 4wd supercentre is a scam fuck them dogs mate haha your video was good, yeah come to tassie for a mission hit me up, im going camping tomoz il try do it by myself after ive used it and setup etc ill let ya know how i go as the fiancee aint coming this time round! cheers m8

[@2yourhome]

Where can I get those thongs!!! Haven’t seen them in years

[@gavinswanson666]

Hi Matt, there is an old shoe shop here in Maryborough QLD called Langers Broadway Shoe Store, they sell the proper "Surfer Joe's ". I moved here 11 years ago and go through a pair about every 3 years. I love em mate, they go anywhere!!! I was thinking of doing a comical review of them called " the 4x4 of thongs". I'm 49 and had these when I was a teenager. Kids these days have no idea how good these are !!! Cheers for noticing the footwear 👍👍🍺🤣🤣

[@doopyz]

You the man! Cheers for this mate

[@gavinswanson666]

To easy mate, glad to help.

[@Blakerobby18]

Does it still fit with 2 sleeping bags inside?

[@gavinswanson666]

I always have a bottom fitted sheet, a sheet and a light blanket in mine. I carry a doona in my car. Hope this helps, happy camping👍

[@alcstaticyt6647]

Does it have the matress in it or do I have to take it out

[@gavinswanson666]

Mattress , bottom sheet and top sheet are in mine.

[@ottz73]

That has the mattress in it right?

[@gavinswanson666]

Certainly does and a fitted and light top sheet.

[@Rayfooproductions]

Will this fit in the backseat of most sedans or not or is it way to big for sedans

[@gavinswanson666]

Hi , I think that you could squeeze it in the back seat from door to door completely rolled up... you might not have alot more room to put anything else though.

[@peternutt5646]

Too easy mate thanks very much

[@cooperbarron7228]

i got one can't seem to get it tight enough it always ends up huge and the straps wont fit

[@gavinswanson666]

Hi Cooper, you have just got to get that first little bit tight with your hands ( 2 people is even better until you get use to it) and keep pressure on it. My brother recently bought a new one and it does seem that the straps are not as good as the originals. He uses a couple of straps for his that he wraps around and tightens.

[@Lakshmen1234]

Cheers Gav

[@gavinswanson666]

Glad to help

[@dextermorgan750]

I’ve got a swag but waiting for the weather to improve before using it. What is seasoning?

[@gavinswanson666]

Hi Dexter, pick a nice sunny day and put up your swag. Close everything up as if it was going to rain. Get your hose and lightly wet down the whole swag, Let it dry then do it again. I did it about 4 times. Closes up the micro holes in the canvas, I think, works to make the product waterproof.👍

[@dextermorgan750]

@@gavinswanson666 thank you very very much 🙏🏼

[@Oly1435]

Thanks for the video!

[@gavinswanson666]

Cheers !

[@trudemacable]

Is the mattress in this swag? I'm 100 kilos and I couldn't get it small enough with the 70 mm foam mattress to go back in the bag it came with

[@gavinswanson666]

Yep , the 70mm is in it. The secret is the first part of the rolling up, Make sure it is tight and keep that consistent. Once you do it once you'll be amazed at how much room there is. Cheers for watching , I hope it helped a little. Cheers Gavin

[@natkoolkat7474]

Trudy McDonnell did you manage to roll your swag with the mattress in it? Annnnnd get it in the bag ....

[@user-iz8ts]

Thanks legend!

[@gavinswanson666]

To easy!! Glad to help

[@leewhatley7077]

Did that have the mattress inside it ?

[@gavinswanson666]

Yeh mate, with a top and bottom sheet. Cheers Gav

[@leewhatley7077]

@@gavinswanson666 cheers mate just got one my self having trouble rolling it up haven’t got the strength in my bloody hands

[@gavinswanson666]

@@leewhatley7077 definitely alot easier if you have 2 people when you haven't got strength in your hands. The new bags are actually bigger than the old ones. 👍

[@gozbil]

Is that the original bag that came with it or the extra $60 canvas bag you can buy, I hear the new ones that come with it are shit and rip

[@gavinswanson666]

Hi Gaz, yep it's the original bag. My swag is about 4 yr old now and the bag is still great.

[@gozbil]

Ahh ok, you bought it when they supplied that bag with the swag, now they sell it with a crappy tent material bag and canvas bags are now 60 bucks extra

[@gavinswanson666]

@@gozbil , cheeky buggers , I didnt know that. They are to big to be put in crap tent material.

[@OffshoreAdventures]

Did that have the mattress in it? Thanks

[@gavinswanson666]

Yep, and a bottom fitted sheet and a top sheet.

[@OffshoreAdventures]

Thanks so much mate this helped so much! Never thought i’d fit it into that bag haha. Does the mattress go funny shape if it’s left rolled up for too long in the bag?

[@gavinswanson666]

I haven't found any problem , seems to air itself out. Cheers for watching and glad I could help.

[@damienfrizzell9394]

i leave my hd sleeping bag in aswell

[@mikeyb6737]

where are they produced?

[@gavinswanson666]

Anything from kings is coming straight out of china, as is most of the stuff we buy in Australia. I am no way affiliated with Kings but all the gear I have personally purchased from them has been of great value and great build.

[@gavinswanson666]

Read my latest comment fuckwit

[@whonos]

What kind of mattress is in there. The inflatable one or the one that comes with it?

[@gavinswanson666]

Hi Amy, mine is the one that came with it.Cheers Gavin

[@whonos]

@@gavinswanson666 thanks for the reply.

[@liam452000]

Good swag?

[@gavinswanson666]

I like it mate, it's roomy ,comfortable and weather proof. Cheers.

[@ItsThatMilkshake]

Fuckin legend

[@JimmyBoi]

I did something wrong, it took me 12 stubbies not 6

[@gavinswanson666]

Sweet !!!! Probably started packing it at 9 stubbies😂😂. These things take time 🍻🍻

[@ramsesdizon9987]

Is there a cot you would recommend for this?

[@gavinswanson666]

By cot do you mean a stretcher or bed that the swag will fit on ???

[@ramsesdizon9987]

Gavin Swanson Yes; excuse me for my lack of experience. Been gathering info to see what direction of camping I want to do. thanks for any info you can give me.

[@gavinswanson666]

Hi Ramses, I've always used the swag as it is on the ground. I couldn't see a problem putting it on a large fold out stretcher but it would have to be a bit larger than the swag so the corners can sit in. Good luck on your camping endeavours, you'll love it. Cheers Gavin

[@adamwasserman1761]

Go check out Clint wassermans latest vid

[@gavinswanson666]

Who's he ????

[@adamwasserman1761]

@@gavinswanson666 He is my co worker/ farther. We have a new way to put 2 big daddy deluxe swags in one bag. And a new level floor system coming to stores soon. Head over to kzbin.info/www/bejne/n3iYhKZ3r5mjj9U To see the vid

[@gavinswanson666]

@@adamwasserman1761 not bad ! I'm getting a bit lazy in my middle age so I think I'll just stick to my one bag.Cheers Gavin

[@SLVBULL]

How do you deal with the saggy sides collapsing in on you when you have it erected?

[@stuartwatson3178]

there is another videobeen published about that just type big daddy swag in the search bar

[@gavinswanson666]

Stuart is on the money. I've done the stretchy thing but I'm liking the idea of the custom pvc pipe middle bow. I have another idea in mind but I have to try it first. If it works I'll share it with everyone. The wife gets claustrophobic so we have one each. (Maybe I snore to loud !!!)

[@damienfrizzell9394]

pull tight with occy straps and pegs

[@TOM.RANGER]

Yeah my oztent is faster both up and down

[@gavinswanson666]

Each to their own mate, long as we are out there enjoying ourselves, that's all that matters.

[@TOM.RANGER]

@@gavinswanson666 oh yeah for sure i was contemplating getting a swag or not just been watching a few swag videos 😅

[@gavinswanson666]

@@TOM.RANGER I actually did a little research on that oztent and I dont mind it. Would be great for my other half that hates the clostraphobic effect of the kings swag. I like how you can put them on a raised stretcher too. How do they go in heavy rain? I am so use to mine now that I love it but I am open for advice. They are a lot dearer but you get what you pay for. I have a little issue currently with kings over the replacement poles which is still pending. I won't say anything negative until I get some feedback from their management but least to say, if I get no feedback, I may change the way I speak about them.

[@TOM.RANGER]

@@gavinswanson666 yeah righto I've actually got the bigger oztent rv4 model which is awesome sets up the exact same way literally takes a minute wind depending i don't actually peg it down if im just doing a night stop but if im spending days/weeks in one spot I'll set it up fully still only takes 5 minutes I've done a 8 months solid stint in it last year as i work country rail and got suck out in narrandera because of the covid thing and couldn't come home there were some pretty solid rain wind sun hail and it still looks like the day i got it and never leaked once I've had it two years now and nothing has broken on it and i still use it regularly As for kings gear I've had a kings awning and qwick pop roof top tent a few years ago and with in 2 months everything was rusting out and falling apart and they wouldn't replace a thing so personally i won't buy kings gear again

[@Nevergiveup-du9jm]

Im more concerned about your paddle thongs

[@gavinswanson666]

The 4WD of thongs !!!