SPEED 400 vs GUERRILLA 450 | Which is for you? | BBB Podcast

[@bigbearbangalore]

Update : The Guerrilla 450 TFT instrument cluster costs Rs.20,000/- while the standard cluster costs Rs.6,280/- .

[@9441602572]

I'm getting a second hand 2022 model Suzuki vstrom 650xt for 5.2 lakh 26,000 km ridden loading with some accessories and my budget is also near around . Should I go for it or wait for 1 year or few months for new bikes to get launched. Sir pls suggest

[@bigbearbangalore]

That’s a personal call you’d need to take. Sorry, we are unable to suggest. Enjoy your rides.

[@LazyRider44]

I have a speed 400. So I am obviously a bit biased. But speed is also a very good tourer. In fact I have done 30k kilometres on my speed already taking it to all over the country. It is very nice and pleasant. I have ridden the Himalayan and Scrambler 400 for a good bit too (friend's bike). While obviously those are better for long distance touring, I didn't feel like I am missing out. It's a very good all around bike

[@jaswanthh__]

Bro, what is the milage on both city and highway you got on speed @LazyRider44

[@LazyRider44]

@jaswanthh__ In city 23-25. On highway around 30

[@ZaidAnsari-un5pu]

Tell me how often do you prefer to change the engine oil?

[@LazyRider44]

@@ZaidAnsari-un5pu 8000 km or so. Usually you can feel it in terms of engine smoothness. For example after coming back from Ladakh I had to change it even though it was around 5000km.

[@9441602572]

I'm getting a second hand 2022 model Suzuki vstrom 650xt for 5.2 lakh 26,000 km ridden loading with some accessories and my budget is also near around . Should I go for it or wait for 1 year or few months for new bikes to get launched. Pls suggest

[@sudhansuranjanmohapatra6429]

There can't be any better comparison than this . Both of you have eloquently unfolded the attributes of each mobike which can help any prospective buyer to make the right choice . Thanks and Kudos to Bosky and CK .❤❤

[@bigbearbangalore]

Thank you!

[@sharatchandra9332]

Great format of reviewing machines, pls don't stop

[@kithara_pragma]

The start was really fun to watch. Loved it!! Waiting to see more in future😄

[@HitenMistry10]

The million dollar video wherein big bears suggested to go for midsized instead of 200’s. I am reaping the benefits of it & i am mighty happy with the decision i made - I am loving every bit of my25 Speed 400. 60kms of daily commute with first service yet to be done getting 30kmpl mileage and it is very well suited my driving style. You guys rock and kudos to your diligent efforts for getting such reliable content for us - 3 cheers 🎉

[@akashmudgal3718]

really bro? 30kmpl consistent?

[@SreeramMedarametla]

i'm getting 17 average

[@HitenMistry10]

@@akashmudgal3718 Yes, took delivery on 1st Jan. It’s been 3 weeks i am commuting to office in Mumbai city. The overall mileage shows 30kmpl on info console, completed ~550kms. I am less aggressive on throttle & switched to Speed 400 from Ntorq 125😜 Additionally following the instructions given - not to exceed 6K rpm before 1st service! 6th gear - cruising @65-70km speed

[@akashmudgal3718]

@@HitenMistry10 Thanks! This helps, I am planning to get one next month

[@akashmudgal3718]

And Congratulations on your new bike!!

[@manojkumarbehera8676]

It is the best "comparison" made yet anywhere . I appreciate the way it has been done. Next point is, worth comparing between the most closest in the segment.

[@Amory98]

Oh this is golden!😂 Especially because I'd been so confused between the two, and because I love this channel and you guys.❤

[@RJ-yp2ew]

Guerrilla fuel tank is a deal breaker for long touring purposes. Should have been atleast 13.5 to 15 litres.

[@bigbearbangalore]

Yes, the fuel tank could be bigger.

[@Sayandip]

I completed North Sikkim trip to yamthung valley and i didn't have a problem with the 11L tank... I carried 4L of extra fuel with me just in case... But i didn't need it. Went up to katao and zero point. It gave me a really high mileage of around 30-32kmpl...

[@bigbearbangalore]

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[@shaarodmahanta2473]

Woah that's great fuel efficiency considering it's performance. Do you ride on eco mode?​@@Sayandip

[@Sayandip]

​@@shaarodmahanta2473 Nah i rode in performance mode

[@apexpredator2277]

i switched from ADV 390 to speed 400, mainly it's pretty good for city and also for that commuter kind of feel.

[@BigNinja777]

"your bike is so noisy that police officers dont give chellans, they give you ear plusgs" 🤣😂

[@parthasahu7297]

Man keep this format and keep these videos coming!

[@nururkhan]

The base model (smoke grey) does comes with the power mode (performance & eco). There is a M button just above the ignition. You need to hold that button down for 5 seconds to enable the eco mode. It does tend to switch back performance mode after you turn off the motorcycle. Btw, this is a really useful video. Keep up the good work 👏👏

[@bigbearbangalore]

Thanks for this information. Cheers!

[@ekoren6116]

Thank you for the awesome video! It was really fun to watch, and by the end, I was actually a little sad that it was over. I’ll be getting the Speed 400 soon! I've had a few instances in the past where I dropped my bike in slippery conditions (uphill, muddy broken road, in the rain). Though it was years ago, and I’m now much more mindful of the throttle in such situations and haven’t dropped my bike since (fingers crossed) I still want the added safety net of traction control. I love riding motorcycles and commute on one daily. Occasionally, I go on weekend rides, but I never tour and don’t plan to. I find long-distance travel far more comfortable in my car.

[@bigbearbangalore]

Enjoy your rides! Best wishes.

[@uchu_ujin9957]

The Motorinc format, I love it.

[@JoaquimGonsalves]

I want more of such comparos! And thank you for riding in full gear!

[@Manoj-dg6pv]

first one hour long video on yt which i saw without skipping a sec!

[@shyamg28]

Great point on the Maruti LX/VX/ZX analogy. I remember reading about Pepsi doing the same thing at cinema halls. Small & Large options meant more people chose small because of the price difference. Introducing a medium meant nobody wanted the small anymore. That was intentional. Wonder if manufacturers do the same thing today as well.

[@JayanandSupali]

This was the most honest ride review I have watched till date. Would slightly disagree on some points but 98% agree with everything said about both bikes. Double thumbs up for that. After having used my last bike for 15 years, I was clear about the use case of the bike. It's was going to be 95% city and 5% out of Mumbai long distance travel. So ilnew I wanted a bike that would be city traffic friendly. I really wanted to go for the Guerrilla cos I loved the all Digital Console. It mimicked the analogue gauge too well. This Console should have been on The Speed 400,it's that good. I was invited for the unveiling of the bike at the Prabhadevi showroom. I got to do a test ride too. And did the slow speed maneuverability and all important, how easy it is to was put it up on the center stand. Then straight away rode 10km to the triumph show room at ballerd estate for Speed 400 test ride. Same procedure of show maneuverability. And after the test ride I was absolutely sold that this was the bike to have. Now 5½ months with the bike and after 6500 km on odo, I can say with authority that Speed 400 is and absolute ease to handle in atrocious traffic in Mumbai. The radiator fan blasts the air in exactly perpendicular to the radiator away. I can only feel the heat on my shin n calfs. That's quite well managed. I'll add one point that sitting position wise and handling wise and even power delivery wise it's literally on par with my Yamaha FZ16. It feels like a 40bhp bike made by Yamaha, not Bajaj. A bike that Yamaha should have really made.

[@bigbearbangalore]

Hey Jayanand, much appreciate you sharing your detailed experience. Enjoy your rides.

[@shaarodmahanta2473]

And here I'm coming from 3yamahas upgrading to a RE(either Guerrilla or GT650) as i didn't quite like the speed400 coming from a v3 r15 rn. R3's price hike due to CBU has scattered Yamaha fans imho.

[@tusharkantisen1592]

Simple, ease of use - Speed Brutish, characterful - Guerrilla By the way amazing video and I now know which one to choose 😅

[@bigbearbangalore]

Well said!

[@amoghpatwardhan8590]

On the ownership cost front rear view mirrors is a huge deal on the Speed! Replaced 2 for 1K each 😥 Got the Pulsar NS Mirrors for 180 bucks each on the next crash, bonus gain-easier to manage in traffic!

[@digvijaypowar9016]

Amazing video! Great work, sir. This is just a glimpse of your talent, and I'm eager to see more.

[@hrushikeshpentewad1254]

No connectivity is a big plus for the base model, silver looks great and the new bronze colour is just another level 🔥

[@shaarodmahanta2473]

That bronze shade looks weird and makes it look way cheaper than its price. It seems like only I want a premium paint scheme like Goan Classic else people are happy with polarizing weird paint schemes on Guerrilla

[@subhasismajumdar-c3v]

Best comparison till date between this 2 bikes..great conversation..thanks sir for this video

[@vishnurs1683]

Great job boys… had fun watching this👏👏👏

[@nikhileshmaiya8900]

For a short rider transitioning from a moped (Activa 5G BS4) to a 400CC bike, the speed felt very less intimidating and it is easy to learn too. Loving my experience so far with the new MY25 Speed 400. There are a few changes to the previous iteration though like adjustable clutch and front brake, Ride by wire (Not too sure) and i think the blacked out exhaust is optional (can opt for the chrome variant too). Regarding the heating, it is not unbearable but noticeable, although i have to see how it heats up in the summers

[@bigbearbangalore]

Thanks for sharing your experiences. Regards.

[@nikhileshmaiya8900]

@bigbearbangalore do you think the speed 400 can handle off-roading on a K2K ride? (Without any performance enhancements be it tyres, air filters etc)

[@bigbearbangalore]

@nikhileshmaiya8900 yes it can as is. Tyre choices are based on the terrain. Kanyakumari to Kashmir 95% of the roads are tarmac, so it’s the 5% you’d need to manage. Perhaps a slightly medium block pattern can be useful in that 5% but the other 95% it would be ok too but not as good as the stock tyres. It’s a balance.

[@ZeroFrostNinja]

I test drove both these motorcycles and decided to go with the Guerrilla, do not regret my decision, 1000km in and it's still so much fun to drive every time. I got the bench seat as well since my legs are quite long for my height and it's probably the best investment I made for this motorcycle. The only negative I have about this motorcycle is that while the suspension is compliant for small bumps and you don't feel any harshness, the moment you run into a bad patch with multiple bumps at a slightly higher speed, the bike does not isolate anything and you feel every bump, it almost throws you off if you're not careful. Maybe 5%-10% softer suspension would have fixed this problem. But I will say the more I ride the bike, the softer the suspension has gotten and it does feel better than when I first got it.

[@bigbearbangalore]

Super! Great information. Enjoy your rides. Thanks.

[@brianalisterlobow4260]

Great, also make sure you maintain 32 and 36 tyre pressure front and back

[@axxa3667]

Papa bear.. loved this a lot. It is as informative as fun. Very detailed and lot in not at all boring manner. Keep rocking U2!

[@bigbearbangalore]

Many thanks for the kind words. We will do our best.

[@rushikeshbahir3365]

With all due respect to all opinions out ther about tue looks, here's what I want to say. It's been a year that I'm riding the speed 400 in Mumbai and still the bike is eye catcher. I often notice, people looking at my bike when stopped at red signal or at any public places. Still many ask about the bike and I believe this happens because of its looks. It clearly stand out of many. This is experience.❤

[@bigbearbangalore]

Well done and good to hear. Enjoy the ride. 👍

[@anuvabsaha5317]

I have thoroughly enjoyed the podcast. Learnt a lot from the 2 Maestro!!! Interesting and honest comparison of the Speed 400 and Guerilla 450.

[@rahulbend]

Brilliantly made video... Hats off to you both.. Love you

[@renjithjacob3989]

Triumph has a service interval of 16K kms / 1 Yr. Where as Gurella is 5K kms / 6 mnts. That's very significant difference.

[@bigbearbangalore]

Indeed 👍

[@virupakshawalla5734]

You leaving oil in that long and not changing air fikter in disty India, good luck ❤😂.

[@nukexplays]

Overall costs similar

[@nikhileshmartin4306]

More of these please !! Great job guys ❤

[@bigbearbangalore]

Glad you enjoyed it! 👍

[@KushalKumar-qo7uo]

The video of the decade ✅

[@easternprestige]

MY25 speed 400 specs are slightly different. Like for example, the seat height is now 803mm, weight is 179kg. Rake angle is changed as well. Suspension travel is minimized in the new edition.

[@bigbearbangalore]

Points well noted.

[@prabhu9189]

Any difference in engine refinement and other such things?

[@easternprestige]

@@prabhu9189 No they remain the same. Speedo error may have been corrected a little due to the larger profile tyres.

[@SureshBelur]

Beautifully done. Very detailed coverage

[@pravinmurthy]

Just change the rear sprocket of 2023-24 Speed 400.. I have put 40 teeth rear instead of 43 teeth stock.. Additionally have changed the stock Apollo Alpha H1 150/60 R17 with Vredestein Centauro ST 150/70 R17.. Have flushed the stupid stock Hindustan Petroleum Engine Oil & have Motul 7100 instead.. My bike is 1.5 yrs old & performs like a gem!!.. A highway cruise at even over 130 kmph is so enjoyable if you find the roads for it.. 100kmph on the meter in the top gear comes at 4800 rpm!.. The gearing now feels perfect!.. I suggest all of the above ☝️ changes for 2023-24 Speed 400 owners esp..

[@bigbearbangalore]

Thanks for this great information. Enjoy your rides.

[@harsharayala]

Hi ,can you explain why you have changed the rear sprocket and how did you source it

[@flesz_]

You don't want to do anything like that when buying new bike

[@harsharayala]

@@flesz_ its already been a year since i got my speed 400

[@prabhu9189]

@pravinmurthy That's a great information you have shared. I'm looking for similar rear sprocket change? Is it the Speed T4's smaller rear sprocket you are running?

[@woody_vlogs]

I was waiting for this. A podcast yes. If you want, you can rename as B3 (Cube) podcast😊

[@ajaynagpal9842]

Hi big bears , You guys helped me alot in making a decision to buy harley x440. Which I m throughly enjoying . Love bike and amazing feel free experience, amazing thump feels like music . Me 57 years young returned to biking after 28 years .

[@bigbearbangalore]

Enjoy your rides.

[@directgunjan]

At last finally some real information about them... Thank you.

[@bigbearbangalore]

Thanks for watching.

[@akashw664]

Great format sir. Keep going and keep posting👍👍

[@sanatpai1086]

Great conversation! Will be getting my Scooter 400 next week!! 😅

[@bigbearbangalore]

😀🙌

[@JourneyOfLife2025]

Few points to highlight here after long test drives of both bikes including T4 - here is my perspective Speed 400 has better weight distribution which feels when driving. Its shorter wheel base and agility can be felt as bike responds to your commands without putting lot of efforts. That's where the USD forks comes in picture. I have ridden Speed T4 and then Speed 400 - maneuverability is better in latter one. Its also better in tractability - in 3rd gear you can drive from as low as 25 kmph to 80 kmph - without engine lugging - ride by wire(throttle body) is tuned perfectly here. T4 lags, similar case with Guerrilla. Now coming to Guerrilla - because of wider handle bar, it gives that big bike feel. The engine lacks refinement and suspension is better suited for American roads. You get that sense of speed when you hit 80 kmph and feels you needs to slow down. I feel this is unfinished product launched by RE ( needs 10% improvement in suspension, fit & finish) Lets not forget the famous tilted swing arms as reported by many users. RE seriously needs to up their game if they want to compete with new gen machines. The only fly in the ointment for Speed 400 was the engine heat and Radiator fan throwing that hot air on my legs and it was reaching till thighs.

[@bigbearbangalore]

Thanks for sharing so much detail. 👍

[@aswinkrishna]

Most awaited video

[@ksa2199]

Proud owner of the speed 400 ❤

[@SeleniumGlow]

The Venomous one liner from CK are amazing 🤣🤣

[@villavan]

Production is quality 🎉

[@warewolf7509]

I am at the opinion of that the guerilla is a half backed designed where it takes some ques from Royal Enfield design language(looks like a hunter + imo) and some completely new. I feel they had a blank canvas and could have gotten in a completely different design language and expanded the brand image more like triumph lineup or honda

[@bigbearbangalore]

Yes, that design is a bit polarising. And RE has several other models that reflect their history and design ethos. And this GRR is in my opinion a welcome departure from that.

[@arjun_iyengar]

Throughout the video, i found CK sir a bit biased towards Guerilla. Found it evident in all points just favouring the RE even when there were the inconsistencies pointed

[@bigbearbangalore]

Yes he prefers the GRR and he’s open about it. He enjoyed riding it more than the Speed.

[@adityafuke9439]

I am looking forward to when Bosky and Shumi do a collab

[@bhargavabhs]

Friendship goals 😍

[@97910466xx]

13:57 let me correct you. I have silver and it has mode and i have to hold for 5 second with clutch and it changes to eco and feel difference and normally it will start in performance but no indication on console

[@bigbearbangalore]

Point noted. Will check on this and update ourselves. Many thanks!

[@rajashriashwin1425]

First of all congrats both of you, very passionate ck and bosky sirs simple,clear and loud, raja ramachandran here need to switch out from unicorn to bigger ones, earlier i was driving rx 100 89 model about 18 + years enjoying, at 44 of age what will you suggest my choice was cb 350rs,himalayan 450,himalayan scram 440, but i dont want any pain in back 😂

[@bigbearbangalore]

Thanks sir. The best suspension is on the H450, the smoothest engine is on the CB and the proven jack or all trades in the S440. What’s your taste?

[@rajashriashwin1425]

@@bigbearbangalore That was costly cocktail,,I will go with cb 350 rs ,,thank you sir

[@ashoksakee]

Appreciate for the great comparison 👏 👍

[@Shiva-jj6vb]

Good job on the "ownership cost" section. I got an idea of how much it'd cost me to take my Scrambler on a "hardcore" offroading session😄

[@kamalraj5544]

Speed 400 the best

[@zaheerahmed4901]

😂😂Yea be careful with the Swing arm bc they may break anytime

[@jeswanthpavithran3668]

Good and sensible comparison!... Appreciate if you could do a review in sub 400cc category. Been a biker up until 2010. Had to part ways owing to certain health issues. Now that being sorted, wanted to get back and considering the age factor was looking at a sub 400. Honda (350 RS), RE being the options. I have got my hands on a classic 500 - a decade old one. Still getting used to the ride. However, for ownership, I know for certain - I would prefer a sub 400.

[@bigbearbangalore]

Welcome back. Enjoy your rides.

[@trinzania]

Is the guerilla a good tourer keeping in mind the smaller tank?

[@bigbearbangalore]

On can tour on it. It’s got a range of about 250 kms from fill to fill which is well beyond what most ride at one stretch, so manageable.

[@swadhinsamanta]

12:10 - Silver Arrow

[@Nayan-ic3ig]

now that's some real bike stuff going on here👍 14:28 btw don't u 2 feel the need for gear indicators or u just used to not having that?

[@bigbearbangalore]

👍We don’t need the gear indicator. After a while we get a feel and know the gear we are in.

[@saswatmeher05]

Tank and seat on the Gurrilla looks weird. Triumph looks more polished. When I saw Speed 400 the first thing that came to my mind was: 'Upgraded Hunter"

[@hariprasanth6608]

Currently owning ths guerrilla 450 smoke grey . Which is actually good. And i felt like I've actually made a good choice 😊

[@hariprasanth6608]

And i have eco mode, and performance mode. U can change it. No problem with it

[@bigbearbangalore]

Enjoy the ride 👍

[@plk884]

​@@hariprasanth6608 Can we set ECO mode as default mode ?

[@hariprasanth6608]

@@plk884 no ,u have to reset it again and again. Its a tiresome

[@jagtejvirdee8418]

having listened to you podcast few time over, i understand that the choice is not clear but the inclination towards guerilla seems apparent. What I want to know is how would a comparison between scrambler 400x and guerilla play out in your opinion. Lastly, the big buzz around semi -scrambler bikes in India seems to be around Bear 650 and scrambler 400x. If one were planning to buy a bike this year, would you suggest to pick between these 2 or wait for BSA BS65?.... A big fan of your channel and I absolutely love the banter and casual approach to the reviews.

[@bigbearbangalore]

Hello. Between the GRR and 400X if I didn’t have the H450 in my garage, I’d pick the 400X. Now that I have the H450 the choice changes. Choices are influenced by the dynamic situations that surround us. The Bear vs 400X is an inappropriate comparisons. It’s being done for the sake of doing something that draws attention. There is no logical reason to compare a 2.6 lakh 180kg single to a 3.4 lakh 220kg 650 twin. If budget is not a concern then I’ll pick the Ducati Scrambler if I wanted a Scrambler. 😀 Some appropriate baseline is needed to make a comparison. And many thanks for your support.

[@jagtejvirdee8418]

@@bigbearbangalore A big thank you for the logical and prompt reply. I have no counter to the point you made about unfair comparison between 400x and Bear 650.. . I am planning to make a purchase this year after not riding for 8 years and am looking to ride it over weekends . My budget is around 4L. and looks are an important factor as well as some future customization and mods. keeping the usage in mind, i would love to know your take on it ..

[@bigbearbangalore]

@jagtejvirdee8418 the Bear is a bit intimidating because of its height and weight. Takes a little getting used to and takes some skill to derive joy from it. Test ride multiple times to know more about each machine. That said, the usability window and future proofing is better with the Bear. As your riding evolves and you become better and travel further and longer, you may run out of motorcycle on the 400X and the chances of that happening on the Bear is less. That’s a factor to keep in mind if you think your riding will evolve that way.

[@jagtejvirdee8418]

@@bigbearbangalore Perfect..Evolution of my own riding habit is something i hadn't considered but seems a very important criteria, specially considering my usage.. Thanks for helping me make an thought out decision. Cheers..

[@pareekshith.b.vashishta4506]

Which one fares better when standing up on the pegs and riding? Feel it's quite important on the pothole filled roads

[@bigbearbangalore]

Either is equally good or bad. And possible to raise butt off the seat on both and perhaps a tad easier on the speed.

[@algOslave]

I Love ❤️ Kerkodi road 😂😂😂😂😂 , it was such a innocent road. Now it’s unnecessary getting a upgrade

[@yashroy8326]

55:24 sir you haven't added the cost of tyre replacement for both bikes , as guerrilla is equipped with a relatively odd set of tyres that's generally not for the mass market compared to speed.

[@bigbearbangalore]

Noted. Will check on this. And the odd will become not odd over time like most new things.

[@aaanji]

You could try and include some ownership inputs, not necessarily long term ones, which will give some different perspective. For example Speed owners report an annoying Shim noise.

[@bigbearbangalore]

Will check on adding this information too. Thanks.

[@rohithneeraje5247]

Could you please do a comparison with the Harley X440 and what you feel is the closest bike in the segment, cause i own one right now, and I would really like to hear your extended thoughts on it.. Great video btw

[@bigbearbangalore]

Will check on this possibility.

[@christybob4503]

@@bigbearbangalore Yes please

[@rohithneeraje5247]

@@bigbearbangalore Looking forward to that video(eagerly) and i genuinely love the content you put out, either on instagram or here. I mean I was always a petrol head and loved bikes and cars, but your technical expertise and just a simple and fun approach to things really got me hooked onto bikes.. So thanks a lot and please keep doing what your doing.. (also as a guy who doesnt have too many people near him who ride bikes for longer trips, would love it if you could organise some meet and greet ride trips once in a while. Just a suggestion)

[@bharatkiran643]

Definately guerrilla is the more feature loaded and stylish bike here, speed has it's own perks though

[@narendrasingh7488]

Sir ,I always love your conversation . But today bangon the comparison sir.. I am surprised hear about to Bangalore city has 8 Triumph showroom, but Delhi has only one.

[@aquaops8445]

The 'i' in their variants was for their electronic power steering.

[@bigbearbangalore]

👍

[@vijeshkm3981]

I liked this video for introduction/tea break jokes. :)

[@vishalsharma-bw2go]

I was considering scrambler 400 x but service station is 250 km away.thus ended up booking Guerrilla 450.i think service network is the biggest difference.triyumph is not the bike for tier 2 and 3 cities.

[@_s2700]

Can't triumph 400s be serviced at bajaj shops ?

[@bigbearbangalore]

@_s2700 as far as I know, only at Triumph workshops.

[@virupakshawalla5734]

​@@_s2700lol they can't even service Dominar here properly

[@CineCricPoli]

Guys, Can we have guerilla 450 vs X-440 comparison review ? Thanks for making professional content. Big fan of big bear.!!.. PS : I'm a new X-440 owner

[@bigbearbangalore]

That comparison may not be appropriate. They are quite different to each other. The X440 is a nice thumper. Enjoy your rides.

[@david_7_7122]

Hi I've been riding an MT-15 for 3 years (45k km) and I'm looking to upgrade. I'm considering the Speed 400, but I was impressed by the 650 Twins' performance - although I found it hard to handle. I'm seeking a bike with similar performance, lower-end torque, ease of handling, and reliability (like my Yamaha) under ₹3.5 lakh. Any suggestions As a Scram 400X owner, what's your take on the Speed 400's engine reliability?

[@bigbearbangalore]

The Triumph 400s are one of the most user friendly mid size motorcycles available in India. And reliable too.

[@euginedaniel3443]

Let me know your choice bro I am stuck between speed 400 and grr 450 and I test ride both ..for me speed feels better and grr don't impress me..I am currently using mt15 for past 4 years

[@tharunkumar3418]

Hey team, Great comparison, gave granular details. But i feel scrambler 400x is better suited to be compared with guerilla, any thoughts on that which will fare well in the comparison.

[@bigbearbangalore]

Thanks. We understand your angle. The 400X is in a different segment and costs about 30,000/- more hence wasn’t paired with the GRR. The first base was to tick the price box and hence these two have been chosen.

[@jiviteshpandab6194]

the speed 400 doesn't really feel like a small bike, it sure looks like one, but its handlebars are decently wide, just 20mm less then what himalayan 450 has, the handlebar is a little lower compared to it. himalayan/guerrilla has smoother gear shifts, speed gear shifts are not good. engine drivability is excellent in speed, guerrilla hesitates below 3k and power delivery is more smoothed out compared to speed. suspension on speed, rear one is stiff and bouncy, not stable and hits in the back, haven't tried the guerrilla, but himalayan is god tier suspension. front suspension of speed is very good though. mapping is different for speed too 1st and 2nd gear different mapping, 3rd onwards ballistic mapping at 6k rpm sudden surge of power and linear there onwards. honestly about touring, its all about having good wind protection, the speed offers your a windscreen, and it may eliminate air till your chest level. both bikes will do 80-110, its not like one is ripping on the highway constantly. gearing on the speed is very short, i don't like it, engine really prefers taller gearing, next time ill swap it with t4 sprockets. edit: just rode the guerrilla, its more torquey, feels more powerful than the speed 400, probably is a little more powerful. sounds absolutely amazing, just the airbox sound made it amazing. suspension is quite stiff, not very compliant either, but stable.

[@bigbearbangalore]

Appreciate your detailed thoughts on this, thanks!

[@vikyvikas7206]

Love from Bengaluru ❤️

[@snehasishdev3296]

Ever since Bosky said the riders triangle on the S400 is like scooter,now when I sit on my S400 I feel like sitting on a Vespa 😑

[@bigbearbangalore]

Oh no! Am sorry 🙏😅

[@ratheesh7797]

There is difference sitting on my hornet 160 and my speed 400. It's never a close so ever. I have ntorq also. I cannot agree that point with bosky as i have all 3 side by side

[@snehasishdev3296]

@@ratheesh7797 Riders triangle will also depend on the height of the rider, a tall rider is most likely to sit more upright.

[@bigbearbangalore]

All right! 👍 I’ve shared how I feel and not necessary all would feel the same. Several other factors come into play like height, size, limb length, age, experience, background etc. That said, there is no right or wrong here, just differing perspectives. And many thanks for sharing yours. Cheers!

[@shaarodmahanta2473]

Bosky Guerrilla is a better option for ocassional trips and daily commute of 50km (14km city +12km highway) than the GT650 ? If ridden sanely?

[@bigbearbangalore]

The riding posture on the GT is committed and of aggressive nature and needs strength and dexterity to ride for longer duration. The GRR posture is more relaxed and easy on the body.

[@nageshg7]

Should I wait for the new Scram 440 or go for the Guerrilla? Can anyone please help?

[@shaarodmahanta2473]

If you want outright performance go for Guerrilla but if you're a sedate rider than go for scram440

[@bigbearbangalore]

The Scram 440 launching today. Test ride to know more.

[@Brettmotorcycles]

Triumph for maintenance, reliability, premium touches and smoothness. Guerilla just looks weird…looking forward to Thruxton 400

[@harshaokin8064]

"how one feels while going from A2B" Well Bosky, I feel great with a masala dosae in my stomach 😂

[@BrattyBiker]

I was in a similar dilemma until I rode the BSA Gold Star 650. It is a small step above the sub-3.5 lakh 400-450cc class bikes

[@bigbearbangalore]

That’s a great machine, yes it’s a step above.

[@Naps56]

How would you rate these bikes against the latest KTM Duke 390?

[@bigbearbangalore]

The new Duke is a bit more aggressive in rider stance and posture. And the engine is still a bit revvy in nature but it’s a rocket when revved hard.

[@TejasBhide83]

Glad you did this stuff and for these bikes . I am desperate to finalise a bike between a 250 cc or a 400 cc . And so far I have like Both the Huqavarnas (250 and 400) , Triumphs , Homda CB350RS , and last is Guerilla 450 . Can please do a comparison between Huqsvarnas and Honda CB 350rs

[@bigbearbangalore]

Thanks and will check on this possibility

[@umangmishra1869]

Which has better brakes ?

[@bigbearbangalore]

More or less the braking was similar.

[@prabhu9189]

Just a thought - Any idea, how Speed 400 will be to ride in highways with Speed T4's smaller rear sprocket? I think cruising speed will be much more comfortable and higher this way and the bike will be much more relaxed to ride with lower RPM's

[@bigbearbangalore]

It can be. But the engine mapping and tuning also need to match the changed sprocket.

[@sashidharsomanchi9028]

Bear Sir, Can you do a video on how much fitness is needed to do long tours and handling larger bikes.

[@bigbearbangalore]

General fitness and especially core fitness and adequate riding skills are of prime importance.

[@darkm20896]

Which is a better buy if we compare both with husqvarna svartpilen 401

[@bigbearbangalore]

The 401 is about 50,000 more and has tube type tyres

[@raghuramenterprises4512]

i dont care about the bikes i am happy with my access, i am here to watch them fight

[@bigbearbangalore]

😀

[@prabankumarbasumatary7809]

Waiting for Thruxton 400 vs GT 450 🤗

[@nidhins6349]

Interceptor bs4 low km or speed 400 which one do you suggest. 😀

[@bigbearbangalore]

That’s your choice. They are quite different to each other and depends on what you wish to do more with the motorcycle.

[@karnchaturvedi]

Amazing energy!😂

[@cruze86]

I guess they hired a good editor finally 😂😂

[@bigbearbangalore]

They had no editor before :-D apart form me, who doesn't know much about editing.

[@Nayan-ic3ig]

next speed t4 vs vitipilen 250 😍😍

[@amaldev.s9437]

Every comparison gets to a gray shade, neither black nor white.😅

[@bigbearbangalore]

Life itself is not simply black and white, good or evil, right or wrong. It's a complex tapestry of experiences, emotions, and situations that defy easy categorization.

[@mervinsilveira3522]

If i have to choose between a guerrilla 450, speed 400 and a svartpilen 401...which would be the better among them

[@prajwal_praju95]

Speed 400 bro

[@mervinsilveira3522]

@@prajwal_praju95 Its difficult to choose cause all three are closely contested......but would definitely consider the 400 for sure...

[@Sid_0016]

If u don't want to deal with tube tyres, Between the speed 400 n g450, Speed 400 is much better, (much more well-rounded, comfortable, well made, looks & is premium).

[@bigbearbangalore]

The 401 is about 50,000 more and is with tube type tyres

[@suryav2523]

Planning to by guerrilla i love the silver colour but i also loves the tft cluster can we fit the tft cluster to the silver colour guerrilla need clarity is it plug and play or it need technical work

[@bigbearbangalore]

Cannot fit that cluster.

[@pratikindia27]

Maybe it doesn't make very logical comparison, but what would you prefer Bosky.. Guerrilla or Scrambler 400X.. for what kind of use you have..

[@bigbearbangalore]

I’d pick the 400X since it’s got better suspension since a good pliant suspension which is important to me. And am not a street and highway rider and prefer a bit of off beat roads where a good suspension is necessary. But it costs 30,000 more so it’s got more kit.

[@pratikindia27]

@bigbearbangalore thanks