Bigger is not Better.

#loader #plowing #blizzard #equipment

[@PMTcommenter]

As an engineer this is a great example of how NOT to compare two different things. Change 20 variables and thinking you can draw a conclusion 😂😂

[@after-lifeadvice7067]

💯👌🏽 When they said "What you don't know can't kill you" they really meant it. I'm surprised how they made it through life if they had that brain and that mentality . Totally disregarding any logic that may involve basic physics.

[@jordanadams4360]

As an engineer 🤓

[@BDZ559]

Yeah you kinda made yourself look like an engineer… lol people who work a project and finish it through would see that, you should’ve came up with all the “variables” so take your degree back to your office and hang it back up to collect more dust. Let the real problem solvers do there work.

[@PMTcommenter]

@@BDZ559 buddy… comparing two things to each other you need to keep all variables constant. Changing 10 variables and saying “look at this a to b compression” and you’re saying that’s good problem solving 🤣🤣

[@Soso-db5gh]

Main variable is the operator.

[@toadis6949]

The snow consistency is completely different. One is fresh one is wet

[@masondevine4384]

It dose a little better with the softer snow but it still spins like crazy

[@1oldteck]

Well in my opinion if you grooved in psyched the tires on thebig one.... And filled with beet juice.... Then I want to see it. ;-)

[@Dirtmonkey]

One is during the day and one at night. Snow changes.

[@tt23abc]

Also seems like the operator of the large one was a bit heavy on the accelerometer making it spin more than need be. Arm chair operator checking in here. What say you?

[@joshjones5172]

and if you have a frozen layer on the ground, you need to leave an inch of snow to give yourself traction and not scrape the ground on the first pass.

[@Chris-zd8cs]

This man lost this argument with his wife and still won't let it go.

[@ghostwarhammer007]

🤣🤣🤣😂🙈🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤡🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Okararu]

💀🤣

[@lars-erikjohansson2435]

🤣🤣🤣

[@joelramdhan405]

He right tho

[@whenlizardsfly]

“The ‘small’ tractor is perfectly fine, Some might even say it’s actually too big”

[@bombwick6491]

This is what we folks in the business like to call "user error"

[@bradleydvorak494]

Haha this is exactly what I thought 😂 operator was biffing it hard

[@bradShank]

Skill issue

[@volvo09]

Yeah, I'm not an equipment operator but I can see how you can kill traction by putting too much weight on the pusher.

[@Yahooligan72]

no

[@shtprof2000]

Folx

[@herec0mestr0ble]

Hey Billy, make sure it’s in 4th gear when I’m recording. Gotta sell my opinion.

[@rusticrebuilds]

It's sped up

[@sumduma55]

It's actually a product of floatation. The tires on the wheel loader have a higher surface area contact with the pavement. This is because when fitted with a large bucket, the material on the bucket can weigh several tons depending on what it is and the size of the loader. The small loader supports a smaller bucket so it does not need as much contact area. If you measured the weight per square inch of surface contact with the boxes installed, the little loader would be heavier. This gives the tires more traction as it wants to sink to a hard surface. The bigger machine will want to float on top of soft surfaces when it doesn't have the extra weight a bucket could hold.

[@ExotiKreationzRVA]

​@@rusticrebuilds 0

[@braydenb828]

"See it's okay babe bigger isn't always better"

[@stuplays6632]

Not only is the snow a different consistency but the big one has a much wider bucket, requiring exponentially more force to move

[@surgemeister01]

And standard off road (for dirt) tires.

[@davidb9323]

The bucket is 6” wider as he stated in the video

[@ShootLuckGaming]

And the guy is dragging the back end of the digging bucket on the ground, If he tilted it down more it will be much better

[@fish7103]

Ah yes the good old apples to hand grenades comparison.

[@dallasbillet8273]

Thank you!!

[@esqueue]

Hahahahahahaha

[@the86125]

That is the definition of this guy’s content lol

[@phuriousstorm]

Father you came back!

[@fbi1307]

Cope

[@codymadore1317]

Also the lil loader is pushing during the night. Fluffy snow u can tell. The big loader is push wet snow. Totally diff

[@heartattackjack9349]

Tires too. Most loaders have tires made for construction sites, harder rubber so they don't puncture while moving earth, stone, or sharp material. Winter tires are softer so they stick to snow and icy roads.

[@grizzbullet8010]

There pushing on same ice same town his point is if u equip the smaller loader right it'll work just as good as one cost 3 times size and cheaper to

[@tinkerne-round4079]

heavy wet slushy snow on a sloping grade vs dry fluff downhill the night before. a couple hours make a difference. would have been nice to see the comparison at the same time of day.

[@edward8930]

@@heartattackjack9349 wondering if you’d know how they make tires softer or harder, I always thought rubber is rubber.

[@shannonp4037]

@@edward8930 Chemical makup changes the tire wear. That's how they make snow tires vs all season vs mud vs summer etc.

[@bh8066]

Ah yes. Different tires Different conditions. Such a great comparison lol

[@mushstash7660]

Ikr this really annoys me so im blocking this dumb account

[@billbixby3863]

The push blades are attached differently to. Small one is attached to the boom and the big one is attached to the bucket. Weight is much farther forward on the big one vs. more centered on the small one.

[@yt-rustconsole1065]

Both still doing same thing though 😂

[@Rocker-1234]

thats literally the point hes trying to make tho..... the point is it doesnt matter how big your equipment is, if you dont maintain it properly a tiny piece of equipments gonna outperform your big thing 10 fold

[@eliwithey5509]

@@Rocker-1234 he said “bigger is not better” nothing about how you attach it. Don’t groom these guys… they run you for views bc you’re gullible

[@junkworks1]

The small loader was pushing colder dry night snow and the other was pushing wet daytime snow. Slippery and 10 times heavier lol 😂

[@anunnakimenagerie]

Now we know what Dwight Schrute was doing with all of those beats

[@trinitywitthuhn756]

Exactly. The little loader is pushing dry, fluffy snow, and the large loader is pushing heavy wet snow got a love these videos.

[@MrJug0327]

And getting it, do way better not trying to slide everywhere he goes.

[@toadsage]

Anyone else getting hung up on the BEET JUICE part? 😂😭

[@wayneegli8379]

Beet Juice (Molasses(Sugar) Water) is now preferred over the old method of tire loading which used Calcium Chloride (CaCl2) The CaCl2 has a very slightly lower, in solution, freezing point (-25 to -51C [-13 to -60 F]) than Beet Juice (-15 to -37C [5 to -35F]), but CaCl2 is a notoriously corrosive salt. As for weight, both Beet Juice and CaCl2 are roughly 130% the weight of water. From experience, Beet Juice is sticky if it gets on you, CaCl2 is slimy and gross. I much rather work with Beet Juice.

[@kevinnixon7997]

@@wayneegli8379 I used wheel weights instead of fluid for ballast in my farm tractors. Adding weight inside tire is not very economical and useless when encountering soft,muddy conditions. By the way,if you get a flat, fluid has to be removed before tire can be removed. At $150 per hour for tire repairs,it doesn't take a genius to see this flawed system!

[@dirtbeard108]

@@kevinnixon7997 steel weights cost far more than liquid filled tires and the added maint cost involved.

[@Basslicks82]

@@wayneegli8379 Our shop fills with washer fluid. About the same freezing point as beet juice due to the alcohol content... but I have no idea what the weight is (and of course, it's flammable)... but it's a lot less messy. Non-corrosive, and not sticky or slimy.

[@7kortos7]

@@wayneegli8379 thank you. i was so darn confused. thinking "that's a lot of vegetables"

[@brandonjerome]

"I've been trying tell her this! Beet juice honey, it's full of beet juice!"

[@MiTreeHugger11]

Put snow tires on the big loader, it WILL out push ALL your junk, Stan!!!

[@terrycormier5492]

The guy is on bad weed

[@jamescaneda9515]

Put spikes on the tires of the big loader and the let’s compare.

[@hubes96]

Not sure why you have to call all of Stan’s equipment Junk?! Doesn’t seem very Christian… Stan is a good guy! Real nice guy. Yea this comparison might of been off… not sure why they didn’t do same equipment at the same place the same time?!🤷 I’m guessing one of those is not his and he did a video on both, so he did the best he could. But its really obvious two different situations going on there. He shouldn’t blatantly insult our intelligence like that… But he is trying to do good and educate the uneducated on different things. For the most of the time his videos are really good! So I don’t see why you have to attack Stan and his equipment like that?!

[@jacobnelson1927]

Chains are cheap work better

[@scharpmeister]

@@hubes96don’t assume everyone is a christian bud

[@john050994]

Yep. I used to drive a mustang in the winter but no matter how hard I tried I couldn't get it to keep traction while I had the throttle all the way down. Now I drive a Camry and get perfect traction with snow tires, sand bags and small amounts of throttle. It's the same comparison, I swear.

[@jeep1987]

You should not need any sand bags in a Camry what are the sandbags for you know you're just adding extra weight because that's front wheel drive so it's not really doing anything to help you with traction unless you're bringing it just in case you need it

[@john050994]

@@jeep1987 the sand is for getting off of ice, and I was just making a joke.

[@asscheeseeverywhere]

@@jeep1987 you're gay

[@Smirk_Station]

​@@jeep1987 You put the sandbags on the hood strapped of course

[@GODZREAP3R]

What's wrong with a Camry

[@jonnekallu1627]

Wet snow is harder to push than fresh fluffy snow.

[@mntoaz8840]

“You can’t shovel sunshine.” -Arizonans

[@darenoon]

Arizona gang

[@poolboy1690]

MN > AZ

[@BHShaman]

Agree with a lot of points. But, pushing over fresh snow vs pushing over ice/slush is quite a difference too.

[@Stacked3403]

It also looks like the big loader was pushing on a slightly slanted parking lot which is why every time his tires spin he slides downhill. Not to mention the type of tires you have on makes all the difference on ice

[@TheXxxcodexxx]

Yea, this was not a fair comparison at all. Put good tires that are weighted properly like the small loader and on the same lot and the bigger one will be able to push more snow. If not, why is state wasting money on big plow trucks when they should be using an old jeep wrangler with a 5 ft plow?

[@somanynamesilltrythis0180]

Its like watching an infomercial, watching someone who's deliberately being clumsy.

[@rossmunro8559]

Intentionally steering out . First time in a loader ? Or

[@kramnull8962]

@@rossmunro8559 Heck they never backed the throttle below 1/2. Most of your raw controlled power is between idle and 1/4 throttle....

[@dlewis9760]

@@kramnull8962 Torque

[@FunInVa]

I found out my old Massey Ferguson tractor tires were filled with beet juice when I got a flat once. When I asked the tire guy why, he said it was an old farmers trick to add weight to the tires but used to keep them from freezing due to it's natural high sugar content.

[@nb6584]

It's the efficiency and how they were able to grip completed the process. Getting and keeping traction was a key thing.

[@jennifersprague8585]

Have the big loader set up properly and see the difference I wanna see a full video on comparing these 2👀

[@jasoncramer5091]

​@yamaszlofmcdurkin the ones that give af are the ones that are interested in actual comparisons not one thing rigged up properly and another not rigged up properly...

[@bradspencer28]

I run a 544e every winter on and we have the same Kubota loader . On top of the 544 being faster. Heavy wet snow is no match. Period

[@pspachraf]

Salt

[@-Nobody-1]

Proper set up = chains

[@archangel20031]

WHEN I had my 2 wheel drive Ford F-250 IDI diesel, it was considered unsafe and useless in the winter time because the front end was so heavy and the rear-end obviously was so lightweight, but it had a limited slip rear differential and I shoveled the entire driveway into the back of that truck. Two very important things happened. 1: the rear-end became heavier than the front and giving me more traction in the rear and with the limited slip differential it drove as well as a four-wheel drive 2: when the weather warmed up I did not have to remove 1,000 lb of sand out of the back of my truck because all the snow melted thereby emptying itself.

[@briankenny6822]

Dwight Schrute’s farm tractor. He split it with another farmer who keeps it.

[@peterlanum]

I don't know how many thousands of hours I've spent pushing snow but now I just push the cruise control button on my truck and head south for the winter.

[@keithalexander4267]

❤❤

[@awdeveau]

I grew up in Maine but have lived in Florida for last 5 years. Seems every year that goes by I miss the snow a little more. Florida has been ok but if it wasn't for family I'd move back up north. I miss having four seasons. Florida just has hot, hotter and too damn hot!

[@user-pm4zg2mw5b]

​@@awdeveau lol 5 minutes of winter and you won't miss it so much

[@jayhockley8841]

@SwampMonster440 I grew up in Western NY and moved to Texas for years . After a while , I missed the snow . So I moved back . Pretty soon , I hated the snow again but loved the other 9 months up North . My Solution ? Live up North until New Years .Then move south until April to avoid snow , the cold , the ice and the salt rusting out my vehicles ..

[@TylerBoespflug]

On today's episode of "Let's compare apples to bananas"...

[@clark5486]

Oranges not banana

[@TylerBoespflug]

@@clark5486 I meant bananas. It was purposely obtuse to further illustrate the level of ludicrous this short went to.

[@PunkIAm]

Why can't you compare fruit? Let's compare Cats to Bricks

[@Tonyplat98]

lol

[@justin_watson1]

@@TylerBoespflugsometimes you can just tell when people have miserable personalities. Aka Clark

[@jamess.931]

yea thats like comparing a car driving on a frozen lake or a freshly plowed parking lot. The heavy loader was on wet frozen snow, the lite one was on new, dry fluffy snow. It is a massive difference, if you showed them side by side in the same lot I would agree.

[@smiffersmaffer]

Just make sure the guy in the articulated loader does everything he can to spin his tires out for the video

[@keltonwright7]

Snow is different and looks like an experienced operator vs guys first day in a loader

[@jonathanbell5570]

I am thinking exactly the same thing. Professional driver in the first clip rookie driver in the second

[@wayneegli8379]

Or just a plain "Hot Shot" driver.

[@westernstar9121]

the big loader was struggling because it's not meant for snow like that or snow in general it's meant for mining, however if you get a tractor of the same size as the one in the second video and put it on tracks instead of big wheels you will get a much better result

[@ferretwithagun9886]

Operator makes a huge difference to. You can have the right tool but without the right person to use it , it may as well be an ear of corn.

[@Teerezs]

Meanwhile I’m at sams club clearing the roads with a forklift and a pallet of water

[@logansanders817]

Funny AF...

[@Theupstateidiots]

I've seen this done. Lol.

[@SayGahTaah]

Gotcha beat. At Home Depot using a pallet of salt to plow and salt at the same time.

[@justinsherman1069]

Lmfao. Well said 👏

[@screamingwarhog]

I use a forklift and a box of jonathan apples up here at a fruit factory in north michigan lol

[@ericsteele1678]

Tires are everything in the winter

[@pieterwillemse981]

Not a thing.

[@awdriven]

Traction is the name of the game. The extra hp does nothing if the power can't be transferred to the ground.

[@GFlinn]

​@@pieterwillemse981 yes a thing. moronic statement. traction guy, traction.

[@markkaminski2416]

AMEN!

[@blackhawks1870]

And driving too…

[@chrisnelson3691]

I concur, this is universal, we use a Ditch Witch mini skid loader more than our big skid loader, we use a mini excavator opposed to a large excavator and a mini front end loader, the big machines have their place and all but the small machines are absolutely awesome in the majority of applications.

[@wirefeed3419]

The big loader is also on wider harder compound tires with large full width traction lugs designed for high wear life. The tread design pound per square inch ground pressure is reduced making for traction barely different than it being on full slicks. Some form of a knob or turf style tread would make a big difference in traction.

[@FishFind3000]

It’s not an apples to apples comparison if the little loader has better tires and they are filled. Plus the larger loader is pushing with a bucket where the little machine isn’t. That’s extra weight that’s not helping

[@benargee]

Yeah it doesn't have slack so the machine is actually taking weight off the tires to push the blade down. Snow plows should let the blade float so that it has no effect on tire loading or unloading.

[@andrewpuckett6157]

@@benargeetheir also street tires. Not winter tires

[@Doctors_TARDIS]

Yeah, the lesson here is that the loader that was better prepared for the task at hand did the better job.

[@VOODOOphg]

Okay, I’ll admit it 🙋🏼‍♂️- I had to google the damn beet juice thing: Beet Juice? Yes :). Beet juice is a recent addition to liquid ballast choices. Advantages of beet juice are it is nontoxic and non-corrosive to wheels. It is freeze resistant down to minus 35 F. Weighs about 11.0 pounds per gallon. Like the calcium chloride choice, it is better at adding weight to your tractor than many other liquid ballast choices. The downside - it is more expensive than some other liquid ballast options.

[@benjamin.schreiber]

@@VOODOOphg I’ve seen tractors with filled tires about 40 years ago! 👍 And I’m living in the southwest of Germany 🇩🇪

[@dgoodinground]

huge difference in the boxes as well.

[@ChristopherGrey1327]

Exactly! I pulled up on my bicycle at the corner store the other day and folk came out saying they thought it was a car with a sound system pulling up.

[@ChristopherGrey1327]

I mean, I have to use a Burley Bee to carry my system, but whatever.

[@wesleymorris1]

The driver makes the biggest difference. If you're used to using the smaller one, u get good at it. The bigger one will outlast the smaller, snow is heavy, that's why plow trucks break often.

[@davidwagner9644]

Having a pusher on a bucket gotta suck big time

[@youdontknowmyname6956]

Yea who ever does that is cheap and doesnt deserve the work.

[@wiley1421]

Not at all it works great

[@youdontknowmyname6956]

@wiley1421 lol, it looks like they're missing a few braincells. Just sell the loader and get something that can mount a bucket and a pusher.

[@wiley1421]

@YouDontKnowMyName why is it stupid all it takes is unhook a chain and you can use the bucket for the tight areas

[@elijahclark2409]

Just curious, if the tires on the big tractor were enhanced like the small one would it not perform better?

[@paulrevere2379]

Good question. I think however, it would do more to re-inforce the point rather than to minimize it. That stated, the broader issue is which machine is more cost effective over the course of years and varied seasons. The big one might still be less cost efficient in winter but maybe makes up for it and then some when it's muddy or dry and dusty.

[@Hidihidihidiho]

Yes. The part of the vehicle that touches the earth is absolutely crucial and can be optimized for different conditions. It’s a very good question and my answer is weak, but any amount of power can look stupid with the wrong tread.

[@spyder000069]

First pass looked like the big loader dragged his bucket. Also conditions were totally different. Big loader was on a lot where traffic had packed in the snow making it icy and slippery where the small loader had a fresh pass. Tires make a big different but the weight of the big loader would have more than made up for that under the same conditions and a better operator.

[@leosypher9993]

I've done this kind of stuff since I was a kid, yes, exponentially better, you really notice when you have more horse power, the bigger the loader the better, snow requires power

[@reelfishingtradition1655]

Not much dif if ties were the same, big machine is cutting all the way to the pavement picking up heavy wet snow and riding on a layer of slushy ice spinning making it harder to push the much heavier load. The smaller unit is pushing only dry light snow because its not cutting to the pavement to get the wet slush and ice, therefore its riding on a layer of campactable snow giving it traction to keep pushing its lighter load, have it been pushing heavy ice and slush and riding on the pavement where its slushy and icy layer is it would spin and not push its load. You have a great evening, im gonna go shot my 12 gauge bb gun. Lol. But ya i dont think it would make any difference in better tires, all in the weight its pushing and what the tires are running on.

[@jesusortiz8666]

don't forget it always comes down to the operator

[@jonniessink1]

Had the same / similar problem at my last job. But instead of snow it was mud/cow poo cleaning out cattle pens. Running construction dirt tires instead of AG style tires that better deal with slippery/ mudding conditions. Tires are everything. You put the right tire in the right job and it will pay off in less time and fuel burned, be more efficient.

[@Hogwarts-Dropout]

This ad brought to you by Schrute Farms. 😁

[@norbertdx]

As an American, you must insist on bigger regardless of the outcome! Remember the movie Moving, at the end when the neighbor came out with the riding mower?

[@jcdahippie]

Bigger one is actually clearing down to the asphalt better. If de-icer is being used, the lot will be cleared up faster.

[@cleancutslawncare]

I’m sure the snow (wet slush vs fluffy) makes a big difference as well. That smaller one was very impressive.

[@wayneegli8379]

Yes, wet snow is easier to plow. Dry, fluffy snow is a PITA. The issue is the driver. The 2nd driver has clear compensation issues.

[@davidbrowe8409]

I'm pretty sure there's ice underneath the big loader and it push a lot farther than that little loader I assure you that it look like the guy don't know what he's doing in the big loader

[@shorbshib3218]

The "Don't recommend this channel" option is alive and well

[@allgoodnamesaregone0]

Much appreciated

[@miahzzeebest701]

Yup I use that button a lot 😂

[@Roger_Ramjet]

Beet juice

[@Nightmare10311]

I use that more than the like button

[@user-ue9ks2zc2l]

That’s what I be using haha

[@philc5499]

Dwight Schrute has entered the chat.

[@vergessen5971]

North Dakotan here, can confirm that bigger is always better when it comes to snow removal.

[@mowerjeff8990]

Half the problem is the kumotsu needs an artic pusher and it’s on ice.

[@stevesites1975]

Beet juice? Sounds interesting. I am gonna have to look into that.

[@kevinintheusa8984]

That's what I thought when I heard it too. Beet juice? WTF?

[@K.V.P14]

Hahaha yep , was gunna say the same. guys a freakin bafoon

[@DC-ez8ts]

@@kevinintheusa8984 BJ has the lowest freezing point and it can be better substitute than salting roads. Any other liquid would turn into ice inside the wheels.

[@tsm688]

imagine the smell in that tire in 3 years

[@daffyduck9901]

No he said Beetlejuice Beetlejuice Beetlejuice

[@SM_zzz]

Scientific experiment consistency...love it

[@Goldenstu]

This is a guerrilla fighter, he knows his home turf and is very clever, hes been hunting these grounds since childhood hes tiny but deadly This is a high school teen soldier, after 1.5 years of training he is expected to be proficient in guerrilla warfare, he joined for the college money and is regretting this life choice, hes overburdened by rules of engagement and sh tty leaders, he cant wait to get out Whos gonna win? 🤷‍♂️

[@stoneyash3707]

This is literally the most uncontrolled test 💀

[@goldeneyedra]

Having winter tires on the big loader makes it better but the one you show have Summer dirt tires witch make it spin on snow

[@goldeneyedra]

@Kw #1 I know what I am talking about I have and are still working as loader operator and tires do a lot for grip

[@pedrogunner9750]

I don’t disagree, but to be fair the snow was lighter and the traction was different for the smaller loader. The bigger loader was being run later in the day when it has warmed up and there was that ice/slush sheen on the asphalt which is really tough to get traction on

[@spcpitts]

the loader that was driving on fresh powder snow without solid ice underneath is the one that won.

[@josephparsons4340]

I'm sorry did you say beet juice? Dwight shrute has entered the chat

[@Gamer-mk4nr]

Thanks for this.... I guess I'll just go back to my old habit

[@jeffk3370]

Komatsu loader was not using float function, you can see the operator trying to get the position of the arms correct with adjustments. Float would follow the contour of the ground. This affects weight distribution. Snow tires exist for loaders, but in my time as a mechanic, I've only seen one set up with them as a set of tires is very expensive, and it is not a simple matter of swapping them in an hour once the snow flies. Was traction control selected? What gear was the transmission in? Was the tire pressure set correctly for the job? Was calcium or other tractive effort aids used? What about counter-weight? Yes, bigger is not always better. But correct use and setup play a big role in getting the most out of equipment.

[@quadsman11]

Weighted tires and an extremely low center of gravity, with a great balance of horsepower, and gearing can make an incredible little snow pushing beast ! We are using a 31hp Turbocharged all wheel drive Ventrac compact utility tractor with filled knobby ( factory ) tires, additional Versa-Loader ( factory ) weight kit, and a 72 inch blade, and 12 inch blade extensions, which gives us an 8ft. Blade, and it's a snow pushing beast ! Takes on bigger, and heavier tractors on a regular basis !

[@EdgyShooter]

Glad to see Dwight has expanded his market!

[@Jaq365]

I thought the same reference, but I'll bet no one else gets it.

[@mherrmann81687]

​@@Jaq365 bc no one watched The Office... there definitely isn't a cult following... and there aren't a bazillion The Office clips online on everyone's feed... yup, you're totally right, no one will get it.

[@themechanic4953]

It's proper is better try changing the tires on the front end loader to the proper ones and see how it does

[@diandykoolman4769]

Was about to say that i have seen videos off a cat 980 push snow

[@dawsonSTT]

It's not about the tools, it's about the experience 🤟

[@floatingshoppinglist5193]

Dwight is making a killing now at his farm

[@UrMomGoes2College]

I need to show my wife this video

[@unitedstatessc]

She'll tell you that your little loader couldn't and she needs to find some good tires for you.

[@joshrhoades7034]

😂 And that you need to drink up on the beet juice

[@nataspihsrow4076]

"It's not the plane, it's the pilot ". -Maverick

[@cjones1693]

Same thing I thought

[@greasycheese8095]

​@@cjones1693it's neither, one is on dry snow, the other one is on slippery ice.

[@eatshiy]

Ok...no one is going to comment on the BEET JUICE IN THE TIRES??

[@mlindholm]

Comment how? It’s ballast for extra weight down low, that doesn’t freeze. Do you think it’s weird, or it made the comparison unfair?

[@MKRM27]

And in the second clip, what had been recently fallen snow has now turned icy and compacted. That’s much more relevant than your filled tyres.

[@marycox2109]

hell, the big loader already cleared the lot

[@MJF40]

I say different conditions. If the bigger machines performed like that, you wouldn't see them all over the malls in the Northeast like we do. Sipped tires can mimic snow tire tread, beat juice is a great idea where it counts. I'd like to see a video on the same day or night. Because seeing a video of the following day or a different day and not the little one isn't exactly comparison, imo

[@martyk1156]

Always easier when it's colder out.

[@country8438]

Pusher on a bucket insane

[@wiley1421]

That setup works great still have the bucket with for the tight spots

[@dominator-tc8ik]

Fresh powder versus the slush of the next day. Even on a freshly plowed road, new powder gives you better traction.

[@ardigital8858]

One of these sent an Avenger to a hospital..

[@chrisoppor2042]

Tires and type of snow

[@ryanrj7500]

"Who do you think could? The one that could or the one that couldn't?" "Wheeeew....well this one really separates the men from the boys here"

[@EricTheRedWiseman]

Weight distribution and downward force on tires. Smaller MCV is nimble, less top heavy and low center of gravity, weight is distributed to the left and right axis, makes it ideal for small loads. The larger MCV has heavier tires, chassis, an even heavier plow making it both top heavy and front heavy which applies more weight on the central axis which makes it sink in snow. Iced roads are dangerous enough, the larger MCV just skids because the tremendous weight carries momentum, harder to stop. The small MCV is ideal for the multipurpose job of plowing snow and doing construction jobs for those factors alone.

[@kennyg5619]

One grooved tires, powered snow. Big one bald tires, wet heavy pack snow…

[@The_Racr1]

The guy in the second one was definitely giving it too much

[@deathtestedevil999]

Groove the tires on the big one lmao 🤣

[@Sn0wflake4385]

Small one: I move slow. Big one: I move fast. Me: ya great test, sales men.

[@Lansword]

The biggest difference is definitely the tires, the big one has much harder ones. That makes a huge difference in the snow, otherwise the big loader has the clearing blade on the shovel much further forward. In addition, the driver is much too hard on the gas pedal when the wheels spin, the traction is gone, it's fun but doesn't help.

[@mrstabby_2734]

Live in a pretty low popation density area, and was on a relatively active road for truckers and what not. Saw 3 of these big guys stuck in the ditch on a single 1 hour drive, 2 of them not even half a mile apart

[@ijgdjvjd2998]

As someone who has used both push boxes, you are not accounting for how good the artic box is. You don't have to put any downward pressure on it, so all the wight stays on the tractor tires.

[@edwardnigma2216]

The better driver obviously. One of those drivers knew how to ease on the gas, the other just floored it and let the tires spin....

[@SoftroadingWithSoftHands]

Lol whoever was driving the second loader was either drunk, never driven a loader before or this was infomercial style where they go " do u ever have troubles opening a pickle jar?" Then they throw is against a wall by accident

[@Js92415]

The second loader is also pushing old wet heavy snow versus fluffy fresh snow.

[@jantzen99]

The good ol apples to oranges comparison lol

[@allengeist5481]

Little feller was fully locked up no contest

[@LogicalNiko]

At the end of the day if you can’t produce friction with the road surface you cannot push much of anything. The large loader will have some significant advantages when lifting and piling snow. But setting a machine up properly for the conditions is a big advantage. And 50 horsepower is nothing to complain about. Geared properly you can do a lot with that (look at old 1920s tractors and heavy equipment with 10-20 horsepower at very low RPM and high torque).

[@leosypher9993]

There are so many variables to change the comparison More is more man, im a minnesota native and a logger, I've been pushing snow in conditions worse than you could even imagine since I was a kid, I've never regretted having more horse power, if your really suffering traction, just to the same that you did to that small machine, to the big machine, and now you'll have the weight and power to remove that big berm you left behind because that little loader had to lift the blade to keep going

[@miguelroman4742]

Two different snows and two different operators. 😮😮😮

[@jblps]

big loader looked like it scraped it cleaner.

[@jacobwilliams5836]

I try to tell my wife the same thing but she is convinced that bigger is better

[@Dirtmonkey]

Goodluck with that 🤣

[@repure1999]

Operators make a huge difference!