Biggest Difference Between A Bad Movie And A Great Movie - Erick Weber

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[@opupfg]

This guy has no clue what a "stratospheric" movie is. Top gun.... hahahaha... it's an OK movie.

[@JrtheKing91]

This guy looks like Reed Richards and Tony Stark combined. Great info, btw.

[@Kwalk1989]

This is one of those times where the first comment I saw, was exactly what I was thinking.

[@scottmcmahon86]

With a bit of J Jonah Jameson in there too...

[@JGrittles]

"Every film has to be evaluated on its own. Not as part of a legacy". Very true, sir.

[@mikebasil4832]

I think that 2010: The Year We Make Contact was the first to give me the best appreciation for that.

[@larryshields2302]

He totally gets it. Top gun Maverick is 5X better than the original… and the original is a classic 0o.

[@CaptainAmaziiing]

"The difference is a good director" In case you are pressed for time.

[@shanequastunningbrave5376]

Which is a totally false premise!

[@snipelite94]

And a good Editor 🎞 Many great movies are polished to a brilliant shine by a "surgeon" editor There are examples where great and famous directors have lost their editor (who restrained the director's worst storytelling impulses) and because the new editor doesn't have the same reputation and standing, the movie turns into a mess, with the director insisting on his "vision", rather than hitting the right emotional beats and cutting back bloated dialogue and scenes

[@ethanbrunt7755]

Not true

[@GeneDarrTV]

This was a very interesting interview to listen to! 👍

[@filmcourage]

Glad you enjoyed it! More to come!

[@alexpollock6932]

The ending is the most important part of a movie when it comes to entertaining an audience. If you have a really good movie with a crappy ending people will say it was fine or not so great, but if you have an Ok movie with a great ending people will leave feeling like they just watched a good movie.

[@scottslotterbeck3796]

BUT...you must keep audiences in the seat. If they get bored and leave, filmmaker loses.

[@alexpollock6932]

@@scottslotterbeck3796 sure, you can’t give them total garbage but most people watch movies till the end.

[@Juliano_DJOL]

What about comedy? I feel like so many comedy films are funny and great til they try to be serious in Act 3, this is one thing Friday from Ice Cube did great! It was the perfect mix of funny and serious!

[@alexpollock6932]

@@Juliano_DJOL when I was in high school a teacher and I were talking about Superbad. He said that he saw it in theaters and that he was loving every second of it until the ending which ruined the whole movie for him. He explained why and I could see what he meant. I don’t think the ending is so bad, I understand what the directors point was but in the end he deflated the movie. A bad ending will always knock a good movie down a peg

[@BigDaddyJinx]

Like a book or a conversation, the human mind associates the beginning and the end. Everything in between is hit or miss. You can capture people with your opening and closing. How you start and end a thing are most important. You need to hook them early with your opening, then hit them hard to close it out and you'll make for a memory.

[@Zehahahaa]

He speaks so well. I agree with him about watching as many movies as you can to notice the broad spectrum of what’s good and what’s Godly. Blade Runner 1982 is one of the most influential movies of all times. Specially for the Cyberpunk genre

[@filmcourage]

More to come with Erick! New video going up tomorrow at 5pm PST.

[@RyanFagan_RealEstate]

I love these videos so much! ❤

[@jorava8768]

What he said at the end, about rare movies that start down and go up made me think of "Coherence". That's a movie that first seems like a string of pointless conversation scenes, but it goes in really interesting directions and by the end you begin to even appreciate those early scenes.

[@ThePremiumChicken]

With Top Gun, the F-14 was very much a character in they original and the fact that they were able to bring it back for one last hurrah was a feat in itself.

[@spawncampe]

10:32 I think so many people overlook this. When a movie's bad, average viewers usually blame it on the story, but most times the directing or engagement aspects that make a movie good or bad. Directing, pacing, dialogue, acting, music, action, etc. are what makes or breaks a movie. Most story ideas have potential to be great, but it's the execution that matters

[@darkpoetik5375]

I'm not above watching bad movies, just like i'm not above reading bad fiction or poetry...You should look at bad art, just to see what not to do as an artist..Some movies are so bad they're good :-)

[@elinannestad5320]

yes, I have heard that. But I can't. LightPoet56.

[@darkpoetik5375]

@@elinannestad5320 don't get your panties in a knot, babe...you're entitled to your opinion...

[@clintoreilly]

You've done it again, Karen. Great content. Erick said it well. :)

[@filmcourage]

More to come!

[@filmcourage]

Blade Runner 1982 or Blade Runner 2049?

[@Red-zh7vq]

2049 for me

[@scottslotterbeck3796]

Original, without question. It was unlike anything that came before.

[@carltonbauheimer]

Yes

[@batman5224]

I’m always skeptical when someone says they don’t have biases. In fact, many studies have shown that people who think they are unbiased are actually more biased.

[@CaptainAmaziiing]

But your skepticism is a bias. But you didn't deny it so you aren't biased. But skepticism is a bias. But you didn't deny it so you aren't biased. But.... error.....error....does not compute.....error....system failure in 3...2...

[@FortunaFavored]

Anyone who says they don’t have biases doesn’t know what bias is, thinks they’ll be ridiculed for admitting it, or they just enjoy lying.

[@shafkatahmed5420]

@@FortunaFavored I try to be unbiased,but I know I am for a lot of things,especially films are subjective.How would you feel if ur favourite actor/director/composer made a bad film?Would u accept it?Would u tell other people how bad it really is or will u overrate it?

[@troyisfilming]

I enjoy listening to him talk, good stuff 👍 🎥

[@goldfishy]

Really like his perspective. But I think he is wrong about bladerunner 2049.

[@GingieV]

2 hr 45 min with overlong scenes? Yeah, no thanks

[@jakeausten9673]

I agree with you on this. I didn’t get that feeling at all from 2049-I thought the film was fantastic and the scene cuts felt exactly as they should have been. Two Towers the best of the theatrical trilogy? Extended Edition, certainly. But with the theatricals Two Towers fell short of the other two, IMO. I give it to Fellowship. However, the fact that he said Hereditary should have been best picture is great. Of horror and dark comedy suspense type films, Hereditary is my favourite outside of Silence of the Lambs, and probably my favourite in the last few years. There have been a lot of great horror films in recent years, I feel like a renaissance started with James Wan’s Insidious.

[@goldfishy]

@@jakeausten9673 I didn't know Insidious was before Conjuring. For me the cultural shift happened with Conjuring, like entering a new era. But maybe it was earlier with Insidious. Blade Runner 2049 is very rewatchable. Really enjoy that journey and the world and visuals and sound design. It's all top tier and has a lot of nice, subtle touches. Like the opening sequence, why is there a fresh yellow flower next to the tree? Because he knew he was going to die and paid his final respects.

[@LorenzoNW]

The problem with Dune (part 1) is that the director spoke of it as 75% art house / 25% blockbuster when it reality it was just the opposite - blasphemy and a huge let down as far as I’m concerned. Then again, the book is a hard act to follow. I'm surprised Erick didn't mention Everything Everywhere All At Once as one of the year's best. The directors did a masterful job of integrating different genres into one film. That's really hard to pull off. It was like a mash-up of The Matrix and Big Trouble In Little China. And the chemistry between characters was perfect.

[@slothlovechunk]

The second half of the book sucks big time. Hopefully the second movie corrects the huge pacing mistakes of the book's second half.

[@CATDHD]

Erick hasn't seen it. About part 1 i completely agree. Minimum story in 150 minutes. That's just becoming Villeneuve's trademark. Technically, it does a great job adapting the first half - considering fucking long ass monologues in the book. Also, it was pretty boring what Villeneuve did with it. It's truly epic looking movie, but again, the story needed some shake up. The characters are acted bland somehow, it's just Villeneuve and his documentary career coming out, I guess. Pretty toothless when it comes to his fucking one of the main jobs - directing actors.

[@WinstonWilliamsofficial]

Multiverse RDJ is right guys

[@zionleach3001]

Well I think Alan Moore said it best. You know it's bad if you think " Wow. I could've written this." Or the cons outweigh the pros. 🤷

[@chrisdell5679]

I love Alan Moore but I somewhat disagree with this notion. A lot of great comedians make stand up comedy just look like a one-sided conversation (which it is at the core, but there is more to it than that).

[@PhantomFilmAustralia]

Perfect analysis of what makes a great film. If you took out _Top Gun: Maverick_ and replaced it with _Cobra Kai,_ the principles are exactly the same. This discussion spoke of the very first thing taught in Film School. "When should a film end?" Is the answer, "Too Early? Too late? Or, Just the right time?"

[@MysterianFilmGroup]

I'll be surprised if another film will ever be made the likes of Top Gun: Maverick. Yes, it absolutely was that type of rare blockbuster including its fan base inside the theater creating deep excitement. A nearly once in a lifetime experience that has the hallmark of a believe it or not scenario.

[@JERSEYBOYPLAY2HARD]

The next mad max can definitely

[@nelisezpasce]

It's up to you Do you want your grandchildren to experience that? Or will you leave them a corrupt world full of insidious agenda?

[@aaronbenjamin2210]

this was a really good interview, blade runner really did change cinema, and top gun maverick really brought back the lost art of film making.

[@MrFakNo]

Blade Runner changed cinema how?

[@aaronbenjamin2210]

@@MrFakNo the cinematography, the visual effects, and many movies such minority report and total recall drew inspiration from the movie. Its still widely studied among film schools and film makers and It's one of Christopher Nolan's favorite movie

[@Juliano_DJOL]

@@MrFakNo the new blade runner def made cinema worse as a whole

[@cothinker680]

@@Juliano_DJOL nah...blade Runner sequel is also great

[@scottmcmahon86]

@@MrFakNo You're seriously asking that question...?

[@maraine0077]

really informative video folks

[@lonjohnson5161]

I'm looking forward to more of this interview.

[@filmcourage]

We're excited to share more Lon!

[@sztallone415]

Interesting what he said about screenplays and directors. While I fully agree that a top director will elevate a mediocre screenplay, what we also see today constantly is that a supposedly good movie is held back by a crap script and the 'good' director can't do anything about it.

[@jodytooke3938]

I'm just in awe that he's repping a Norwich City shirt 😂

[@Red-zh7vq]

I thought X was just ok too. I don’t think that movie knew what it wanted to say.

[@FlicksNFlavors]

i agree. i like that it was different and stuff but the ending was kinda underwhelming

[@yrasheddc]

Movies starting bad and ending great remind me of this one south park episode, "Cartman has to die" I think was the name, it started kinda meh, dragged on for a bit, and then the ending absolutely crushed it

[@stikbot101Official]

I wonder what he thinks about this year's All Quiet on the Weastern Front. I really loved that movie and think it was one of the best movies to come out this year. I haven't seen the origional or 1979 version and I have heard that those versions are better, so I'm interested on what his opinion is.

[@miguelfmyers]

One of my fav videos by you guys

[@filmcourage]

More to come!

[@SpuddMacgyver]

"Buys Hereditary having never heard of it"

[@Red-zh7vq]

Looper’s concept of time travel make absolutely no sense. Ruin Johnson is a terrible filmmaker.

[@scottslotterbeck3796]

Why? I liked the film

[@Red-zh7vq]

@@scottslotterbeck3796 how’d they kill his wife in the future if the whole point of the film is that you can only send people back in time to get them offed? Also the scene where that dude is losing body parts just does not work logistically with any form of reasonable time travel. He should just be dead and the future should be changed, not him falling apart like a muppet.

[@ThePrimith]

@@scottslotterbeck3796 If time travel is supposed to be about cause and effect, then you can't have a time traveler be immune from the effects of the past and also be affected by them at the same time. If the one character's past self was getting tortured, to the point that he was having limbs removed, how did he get as far as he did without said limbs in the present? I understand the narrative effect: they wanted to create a horrifying scene which implied horrific violence. However, having the injuries manifest in real time from something that should have take place years prior from that character's perspective was extremely immersion-breaking for me.

[@ktom5262]

Looper is a great sci-fi movie.

[@Red-zh7vq]

@@ktom5262 if the whole point is that you can’t kill people in the future you have to send them back in time to avoid being caught, then how was Bruce Willis’s wife able to be killed in the future and start this whole plot in the first place?

[@rickcleveland310]

A story teller needs to be aware of his or her intention and then he or she has to deliver on that intention. Having some awareness of what the audience will experience is also an important part of the mix.

[@filmcourage]

What is the best movie you have seen this year?

[@gvphdYT]

Hero (1992).

[@michaelprada7880]

TG: Maverick

[@g_s_subhash]

RRR (2022)

[@CaptainAmaziiing]

I'm too poor for movies in the theater, I just watch Film Courage clips about making movies instead. Now I can sound like an auteur when discussing movies I've never seen.

[@TeacherRaf]

Top Gun: Maverick = Best Big Screen film in 12 years since Inception.

[@eddyjuillerat835]

-- The way Erick avaluate a film seems "technical" to me. Not in a way "he reviews technical aspects of the film" but he's method is minded-driven. A film is to me a very organic thing to create and it can't be examined too much in this kind of logical way. I'm not saying he's only mind and no soul, but his method looks like this to me. -- Since two years, a rediscover the old classics like the films from Robert Wise, Sidney Lumet and the french filmmakers like Marcel Carné. Carné's films like «Daybreak», «Gates Of The Night» or «Children Of The Paradise» got the amazing and very unique abilty to transport you in the deepest places inside your soul. It's properly astonishing. Maybe I'm biaised because I'm swiss-french, but I grew up with american films. -- After watching these films, they took me to another way to evaluate all films I see. I don't know if Erick tell this in the rest of the interview but the most important and crucial aspect to examine is THE DEEP MEANING of the story. Some classics seems to have not so much to offer in a first glance but without many dramatic plot points, without music yelling at us "feel this!", some films can quietly bring you to your own soul, making you feel what's the deep intricate meanings of the human experience in this life. To experience this, we need to let the film do his job AND the film needs TO LET US live the film, not imposing huge brick walls of music and visuals. That's why many actuals films are very superficial. It's too often on the surface, not deep in the meaning. The deep meaning is not something we have to discover or to learn. We already have the tool to finds it, we just need FILMS THAT LET DEEP MEANING MANIFEST themselves. Thanks for all your work.

[@eastlynburkholder3559]

A way I know a film is good or great is that comes back to your mind when you are not consciously tryimg to recall it. That is my opinion.

[@gudduentertains]

Any good or great movie would be which has served its purpose i.e to entertain. If a comedy movie has made you laugh your heart out it will be a great movie for you. The same goes for other movie genre....there can't be a great action movie without great action scenes. Its just how a movie makes you feel on first watching and repeated watching.

[@RipeTimes]

Regarding pacing, how much is the editing compared to the directing?

[@G360LIVE]

A whole lot. There are really three storytellers that make a film: the writer, the director, and the editor. If you want to see the difference even small edits can make, look up a channel called Reel Busy Editing. The video on Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen shows how pacing can be made better just by getting rid of bad, unnecessary humor.

[@RipeTimes]

@@G360LIVE thanks for the reply. I'll have a look.

[@leonoradompor8706]

I am a saintly person,my personal experience when i am planting in my garden the rain follows,so during harvest of rice and corn, i stop planting in my garden so that sunny days will appear*** I am unstructured molecular physicist and a chemist ****I am the Goddess of Vegetation

[@CorpeningMedia]

This is the logic that leads us to conclude Sharknado was a masterpiece. Wait… Was Sharknado a masterpiece?

[@phinsfan92]

For what it wanted to be, technically, yes lol

[@jnapier3998]

he favors a film like spiderman no way home over the northman which is all i need to know

[@preciouslittlediamond9097]

I think the pacing of blade runner added to a bit of surrealism .

[@SillyWillyFan47]

10:30 Good Bad direction & choices. So what happened to Ridley Scott on The Councilor?

[@slamtilt01]

This is a great 👌 discussion. As a life long movie goer. I feel the best movies are those who've really thought out their marketing properly. Even the ones that are low budget. I go see movies to be entertained. Sure, if the movie 🍿🎥 had been made by one of my favorite directors. That may sway me to watch it. But I will need to know what it's about before I will buy a ticket. That's where the marketing team come in.

[@marving5668]

Erick's channel "Midnight Movie Talk" is awesome!! Check it out!

[@jeffherringa4709]

At one point, it was hard to imagine anybody other than Toby Maguire being Spider-Man. But, Tom Holland nailed the teenage angst angle a little better. For the record, in the Marvel Comic Books, Spider-Man actually came several years before Iron Man in the 1960's. The "Homecoming" Spider-Man movies have it flipped as the opposite in the the newer movies in the MCU movies for stage 3 or 4.

[@shanequastunningbrave5376]

Sigh, yet another 'critic' who has absolutely no idea of what the screenwriter does and their importance on a film and just attributes everything to the director followed by the cast!

[@zionleach3001]

Yeah look at how many shows and movies that audience loves but critics hated it. Critics called Firefly's space western setting as "too strange." But during the 90's a anime called Cowboy Bebop did the exact same thing and we saw how bad Hollywood screwed up. It also doesn't help that most modern Hollywood can't take any criticism.

[@Red-zh7vq]

Yeah if the script isn’t write then you’re off to a horrible start. That’s the backbone of a film. All respect to the actors, composer, cgi artists, etc. but it doesn’t matter how pretty the film looks or sounds. If the script is bad the movie is a mess.

[@scottslotterbeck3796]

Film starts with story. But production value is SO IMPORTANT. Separates an amateur film from a professional one. Believe me.

[@shanequastunningbrave5376]

@@scottslotterbeck3796 Nope, production value has never saved a bad script, a bad script is amateur filmmaking as the purpose of the medium is story telling.

[@G360LIVE]

@@shanequastunningbrave5376 Exactly. Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker has amazing production value, the best that money can buy, but that script is a horrible mess, and it absolutely shows.

[@usernamenotvisibIe]

is there a full interview for Erick Weber?

[@filmcourage]

Not yet. More to come!

[@Hicks-g1m]

A movie like Top Gun Maverick is very rare these days

[@thefutureapocalypse]

I like this guy, more.

[@Engineersoldinterstingstuff]

Seven didn't make me feel good. But still one of the greatest thrillers ever.

[@michaelbledstein7515]

I say a great movie needs two things: The story keeps moving along and the filmmaking doesn't look aged.

[@TheJadedFilmMaker]

Exactly. Deliver what's expected, and more! Remember when Disney kept saying "subvert expectations". how did that work out ? I really hope they've stopped it. But, maybe it won't stop for a while longer, because lately they've been doing the 'bait and switch'.

[@FortunaFavored]

Bait and switch?

[@Valen-xu2wy]

Kenobi...ugghh

[@RekzaFS]

Can we get some directors talking about films from a non-americentrism perspective with appreciation and commentary of Bresson, Tarkovsky, Bergman etc.

[@filmcourage]

Here are a few videos - bit.ly/39guoUE

[@RekzaFS]

@@filmcourage thank you

[@calebdrew5684]

Was about to dislike but then he said a movie "made him feel like hell and maybe that was the point", something I've been trying to say for years. Okay, I'm intrigued by your opinion, thumbs up.

[@pockydoobles1767]

Films that go up and fail at the end? The Abyss every single time. That film was a solid ending off an all time great science fiction film for me.

[@willgenre]

I'm saying it. Top Gun Maverick should be getting Oscar buzz.

[@botz77]

I like Blade Runner 2049 more than the original. At least story wise. He right about The Two Towers being the best Lord of The Rings film though.

[@ShogunOrta]

Is it just me or did Top Gun not feel that complicated? I mean, it was good...but a masterpiece? Hes got it up there with Godfather practically.

[@jonjuko8859]

Doesn’t always have to be complicated but what it sets out to achieve it does at the highest level

[@G360LIVE]

@@jonjuko8859 That's where I disagree with the interviewee. A film achieving what the filmmakers set out to achieve doesn't make it a great film. I mean, the makers of the film Ninja Cheerleaders set out to make a cheesy B movie. They achieved that. So, does that make Ninja Cheerleaders a great movie? No. That's just nonsense. A great movie must be great from start to finish, from the writing to the directing to the editing to every other aspect of what makes a movie, and those things can be objectively measured. When you ask, "Did this movie achieve what it wanted?" that feels more on the subjective side of things, because you can argue for or against.

[@dbsommers1]

It succeeded despite the simplicity of it. That's what makes it great. "All of these elements shouldn't have produced this level of success." yet it did.

[@ShogunOrta]

@@dbsommers1 Yeah, i guess sometimes the planets align just right. I think a lot of it has to do with nostalgia plus it is an alright movie. Cough - but not Godfather - Cough!

[@pahbert]

Context is everything. We have been in stuck in an era of cash grabs at best and propaganda at worst ... movies are so bad. So when something great is released (for the first time in a long time) it seems INCREDIBLE.

[@penhdog2207]

My bet is for most people watching film courage (myself included), what the filmmaker is trying to achieve is to get the thing finished. Let's leave the Top Guns to other people for now. Uncle Kent is more of a realistic and positive hope. "A great film is an unfinished one".said someone who has actually made films.

[@djn1822]

Theatrical release of Warner Brothers Cut of Justice League was a movie that just embodies a movie that you know is terrible from the first shot

[@Red-zh7vq]

I thought Hereditary was very underwhelming

[@southlondon86]

Same. Superb acting but it wasn’t tense/scary and the king paigmon ending was just rushed.

[@masonb316]

Hey, it’s RDJ’s long lost twin!

[@VinceLyle2161]

His criticism of Blade Runner 2049 is odd to me, because most filmed entertainment I watch has scenes that end too early, everything seems so rushed. I get how 2049 could feel even more ponderous because of it. There is a balance, I guess.

[@erickaufmancustomguitars1351]

My advice... Never never never listen to anyone who needs confirmation the entire time they talk.

[@jamesferry1523]

Getting an iciness from this guy that I don't get from, say, Chris Gore.

[@newworldsound]

Couldn’t disagree more on 2049. Every scene is perfect. One of the greatest movies ever made. I wish there were more like it!

[@scottslotterbeck3796]

The original Blade Runner was groundbreaking. Never seen anything like it before. The story was fine, too. 2049 was good. I prefer the original.

[@dbsommers1]

I found it too slow myself. I was never a huge fan of the original, but I did think they tried hard to make a good sequel rather than a cash grab. It was a visually beautiful movie, but I needed a little more than that. But that's just me.

[@BionicDance]

*BAD MOVIE VS GREAT MOVIE:* Did they make me give a damn? Did the success or failure of the characters matter to me? Are they fun people to watch? It's amazing how much I can forgive, how far outside my comfort zone I will step if the characters keep me coming back. Or if the main premise is one in which I can be invested. There is a movie from 1989 called "Catch Me...If You Can" (no relation to the Lenny di Caprio movie) about a girl trying to save her high school who gets convinced by the school bad boy to start betting on his illegal car races. It is a _goofy_ premise, and the execution comes off like discount John Hughes...and yet, I've watched it many times because the characters are so much fun. Bad movie vs great movie: whether or not I'm invested.

[@oobrocks]

Hitchcock doesn’t agree with him. When asked what makes a great movie he replied “script, script and script “

[@Deinorius]

There one argument to be made, why a whole trilogy or coherent set of movies or series should be valued as a whole! Imagine watching something that's great, it's awesome, wonderful... and then it ends terribly wrong! Of course I'm thinking of Game of Thrones! Naturally you should value a movie by its own but it's still a part of something bigger, especially Lord of the Rings. The story begins with 1 and ends with 3. It's not like Gremlins, where it doesn't matter if you watched the first movie. They stand by its own. Even Blade Runner 2049 could work without the first part, even though not that well but still. If the whole damn thing doesn't end well where's the merit? I can't watch Game of Thrones again just because of the end.

[@djnary2896]

Interesting that he was down on Looper and liked the ending. I had the totally OPPOSITE reaction! I was really enjoying Looper...until the end. The ending killed Looper for me. Same with LOTR. Don't get me wrong...I totally agree The Two Towers was great, but I did think Return of the King was that much better. So much about film (and ANY art for that matter) is subjective.

[@Juliano_DJOL]

Same

[@ThePrimith]

Personally, I don't know what's there to love about Looper. If time travel is supposed to have causality as a theme, Looper broke causality long before the end, when a character was being tortured in the past, and he manifested scars and maiming injuries in real time. Interesting concept, but in practice, it undermines causality. The past didn't affect the characters until the narrative wanted it to affect them, which does not make sense and completely broke my immersion.

[@lindenstromberg6859]

Yeah, that was weird. While I did enjoy all three, I felt The Two Towers was the weakest of the three in its theatrical release. Extended Editions are a different story, I definitely enjoyed it a lot more and I think Two Towers by far benefitted the most from the new content.

[@Senpaiaproves]

Objectivity.

[@Juliano_DJOL]

X? What's that?

[@JahirSanchez1998]

A pretentious horror movie.

[@Juliano_DJOL]

A24 been batting some great numbers IMO!

[@ittoakimbo]

I wanted to like Top Gun: Maverick but I didn’t, and I watch a lot films for the Past 45 years… art is subjective

[@filmcrew5848]

This guy had my attention until he said Dune was the best movie he saw last year. That movie sucked. lol

[@____uncompetative]

True.

[@pahbert]

The set designer just wanted to do what was cool. Practicality did NOT cross his/her mind lol

[@rupertsmith5815]

It is called having a different opinion

[@matthewdavid9039]

“He brings almost everybody back”….? He brought one character back mate maybe you should watch the film.

[@Texastentialist-ls9kz]

Monty grab…cough, cough Rings of Power….cough .

[@july713x3]

I lover her tone...Top gun Maverick...? Translation - you have got to be kidding me.

[@notbloodylikely4817]

Context is important. The movie going public have been desperately crying out for a Top Gun Maverick-like movie for a long time and Hollywood, in its infinite wisdom, has been ignoring them. In the 90s this would be one of many great movies. Now great movies are outnumbered by politically charged movies, because Hollywood thinks Twitter is the benchmark for what people want and it isn't. Twitter is the benchmark for what people on Twitter want. People want what they've always wanted from movies, to be thoroughly entertained, taken away from their own lives and inserted into a rip roaring fantasy world. Hopefully the success of Maverick will open the eyes of those stunted execs who think people want to be preached to about politically correct issues when they go to the movies. The latest Netflix announcement seems to support this notion.

[@filmcourage]

CODA or Dune?

[@JahirSanchez1998]

Both are shit.

[@shanequastunningbrave5376]

For a film to really work the writer, director, DOP, lead cast, editor, sound designer need to absolutely nail it, one of them is off and the film will be average at best.

[@civilwarfare101]

More people should view media on their own merits lol.

[@kingpalpy1468]

This guy's channel is very underrated. Check him out!

[@phrike7588]

I do not understand the love for the Dune remake. Part 1 is a setup for part 2. And then you watch part 2 and it's a setup for part 3. Neither 1 or 2 have a real climax or anything really exhilarating happening and that's not good filmmaking i.m.o. It's not good planning for a trilogy at least. Compare that to The Lord of the Rings trilogy that felt like full movies with more awesomeness to come.

[@tolvfen]

bad also means, bad special fx, not have that deep feeling, and boring

[@____uncompetative]

If you rate the director's aptitude at bringing the story to the screen you completely ignore the quality of the story, which could be quite terrible. For example, the problem with _The Last Jedi_ isn't Rian Johnson's direction. J.J.Abrams did a reasonable job with _Star Trek._ Disney messed up by having these directors write their scripts, leading to 'auteur abuse' (i.e. putting things into the screenplay that will make for a cool visual). This became particularly bad when it came to _The Rise of Skywalker_ as J.J.Abrams was rewriting the screenplay during production, and editing the dailies on set, which led to that movie's incoherent character motivations (e.g. Why did Palpatine amass a huge armada and give up on the tactical advantage of a surprise invasion of the galaxy, by announcing his return from the dead in a message that was broadcast in the popular videogame _Fortnite_ but only referred to as a "threat of REVENGE in the sinister voice of the late EMPEROR PALPATINE." in the opening crawl of the movie, as if cinema audiences don't deserve to hear what he said for the price of their ticket?). By Erick Weber's rating system, _The Rise of Skywalker_ could get a high score because it was well directed (at least on a par with _The Force Awakens_ which a lot of people liked when it came out), despite having worse writing than _The Last Jedi_ most of whose problems lie with the characterisation of Luke Skywalker, who J.J.Abrams had already made a coward who vanished and allowed the First Order to rise from the ashes of the Empire in his absence. I was surprised his sister even wanted him back, and felt all the efforts expended on looking for him after he had uncharacteristically gone missing without telling his sister where he was going, like he did when he left Hoth for Dagobah in _The Empire Strikes Back,_ could have been better put into learning the lessons of _A New Hope_ where the Rebellion Base on Yavin IV was threatened by the Death Star, and not make that same mistake again by having another planetary base on D'Qar for Leia's Resistance, when she has a fully functional StarCruiser, at her disposal, named The Raddus, with a hangar large enough to take the whole of Commander Poe Dameron's Black Squadron of X-Wings. This time around Leia could have a mobile headquarters. Snoke has one in the form of the Supremacy, also the Resistance had a massive refuelling station called The Colossus (but somehow Leia let it slip into enemy hands, only to have it show up in the final battle with Palpatine's fleet in _The Rise of Skywalker,_ an example of auteur abuse). Neither side comes across as competent, taking all tension out of the _Star Wars_ and severely damaging Leia's reputation, that was established in _The Empire Strikes Back_ where she showed inspiring leadership qualities as she oversaw the evacuation of Hoth. The new Disney _Star Wars_ movies aren't badly directed, edited, computer animated composited, fight choreographed, acted, or orchestrally scored. People like _Rogue One_ because it actually has all of that AND a good story. So, Erick Weber is completely wrongheaded in assessing direction aside from the screenplay. When screenplays are of good standard, as they should be, as they are the cheapest thing about movie production, and the easiest thing to modify early on before the cost of making changes becomes prohibitively expensive, then direction can be compared to rate different movies against each other, in terms of what the story set out to achieve, and how well the director amplified that creative vision. However, as a general rating system for all movies, his method sucks. _Top Gun: Maverick_ is just a clone of the original that was clearly churned out to appeal to the Chinese market (with changes made to Tom Cruise's jacket so as to not offend the Chinese). I was bored watching it go through all the same story beats, and dumbfounded that they were trying to get me to feel the same chemistry that did genuinely exist the first time around. Jennifer Connelly is a fine actress, but that whole romantic subplot was barely fleshed out and I wouldn't say that there was zero sexual chemistry between her and Tom Cruise, I would say that there was negative sexual chemistry, so that it became cringe to see them in bed together, doing nothing. Then you have some stupid stuff about her telling him to sneak out of her bedroom window, like the old days, but this time so that her daughter doesn't see that she has gone to bed with him (when clearly no sex has taken place, just try to convince me otherwise), and Tom drops to the ground and what should have been a retake by the director as what was in the movie spoiled his characterisation, wasn't given due care, and we have a misjudged "big grin" from Tom at being seen by the girl in response to her warning him not to break her mother's heart. That is the wrong reaction. Tom needs more than one facial expression, something he was mocked for in _Mission Impossible: II_ by Dougray Scott. It has been so overused throughout his career that it has become a meme worthy of comment and self-parody. Here it made Maverick look like a shallow insincere playboy, when he ought to have taken the situation seriously for once and not made light, of what will be his step daughter's feelings, presumably. Oh, and the running the gauntlet, up the side of a volcano, down into it, and back up again, high-G blackout, next-gen dogfighters mission, was utterly contrived beyond the point of impossibility, full of plot holes, and basically an uninspired rip-off of the trench run in _A New Hope_ and its remake in _The Force Awakens._ What stops the AA missiles from firing on their jets as they ascend out of the valley up the side of the volcano? If your counter-argument is "They are pointing the other way" then I can ask "Why are the enemy so incompetent to not have further defences on the sides of the volcano? (Darth Vader comes after Luke only to get shot by Han Solo) "Are there no observers stationed along the valley, including anyone with ears to hear the jets scream past?" (in firing Tomahawk missiles ahead of their mission they announce they are coming, so there is no element of surprise). "Why are there no jets closer to what the enemy most want to defend?" (Why do they spend an hour and a half of the movie preparing for the mission and not use some of that time providing reasons why, so I don't have these questions, because I didn't have questions in the original _Top Gun_ or _A New Hope_ or _The Force Awakens_ for their "trench run" sections. _Top Gun: Maverick_ is a vapid money grab. If _Top Gun: Maverick_ had direction that was of an "otherworldly, stratospheric" beyond excellent quality then I would expect Joseph Kosinski to not drown out part of the iconic Kenny Loggins, _Danger Zone_ track with the heard-it-before sound of seen-it-before jets taking off from an aircraft carrier. In the original _Top Gun_ the riff has no competition from the sound of afterburners. Kosinski is inept and it is his ultimate responsibility to get the editing and sound mixing correct and not spoil this nostalgic moment. Check for yourself: _TOP GUN Intro Danger Zone HD 1080p_ by HSV Senator from 2:36 on. Tony Scott was a much better director. R.I.P. Tony Scott. He also picked a better time of day to film.

[@____uncompetative]

Continued... _Dune_ was dull and dirty and undifferentiated in its set design due to the consistent use of ugly brutalist architecture. Given the story had been split into two halves it had no excuse to overstay its welcome, or to omit so much dialogue that would explain everything. Timothee Chalamet mumbled his way through the movie, and Zendaya was an out of context cut-away rather than presented as being a vision Paul Atreides kept having. It was a mistake to compose the shots for IMAX as can be seen in the video on the Secrets of Dune channel _Dune: Part One IMAX® Screen vs. Standard Screen_ where the Carryalls (which look like balloons in the sky) are cut off by the top of the screen in the shot where Rabban is regarding the Spice Harvesters. You don't get his strong stance either as his legs are cut off. The head count of the soldiers isn't affected in the next shot by the cropping, but the troops seem a lot more ominous when you see their shadows in the foreground. The ornithopters wings cast a shadow that touches the corner of the frame, with plenty of sky showing to foreshadow where they are going next. Cropped these effects are killed. In flight the motion of their hummingbird wings is less apparent in regular cinemas or on streaming, which is where most people saw this film during the pandemic. A general loss of sky draws the oxygen out of the scenes, making them feel like interiors not exteriors. The location of Arrakeen city, with relation to the Shield Wall, desert wilderness beyond and mountains is redacted almost as bad as Mark Zuckerberg's email to Dr Fauci. Skipping ahead to 5 minute 50 sec and the composition of the ornithopter hangar bay into which Paul and Jessica make their escape lets the curves of the hole in the ceiling come together at a point defined by shadow at the top of frame in what was quite deliberate aesthetic choice. This is utterly ruined by the height reduction, which also obscures where they are exiting to, so that the hangar barely looks like a hangar as it isn't clear that it has a bay (in the ceiling). Scenes were cut that covered the machinations of the House's respective Mentat strategists. Indeed, there was barely any dialogue in the movie, almost as if it was an overreaction to David Lynch's _Dune_ (1984), where he was forced to restructure the script from what he had originally planned to be a much longer film as the studio entered bankruptcy. I don't know, but don't believe the use of voice over in that film was done to expedite the plot, as it is part of the novel. People in _Dune_ by Frank Herbert voice their thoughts in _italics_ a lot. Denis just didn't bother to show us much of this, so I think fanboys of this new version are supplementing the film with their deep knowledge of the novel and preferring it to be less cluttered and with a younger protagonist more fitting to the book. _Skyfall_ wasn't ruined compositionally because it got an IMAX release. It wasn't filmed on IMAX cameras, but the Arri Alexa digital cinema camera in RAW image mode to provide the highest possible resolution. The Alexa's aspect ratio is taller than a regular cinema camera, which meant that the director Sam Mendes was told he could have a bit more verticality when projecting onto IMAX screens, but his cinematographer Roger Deakins ensured that the important action wasn't clipped on regular cinema screens, IMAX just gave a bit extra. This is the opposite of Denis Villeneuve's and Christopher Nolan's IMAX first approach (note: comparisons of _The Dark Knight_ show how he spoiled his own movie by composing it for the format practically none of his audience have access to). DB Film Scenes has a clip entitled _Skyfall - Court Shootout_ in regular format. NEF Spring has a video comparison entitled _"The Dark Knight" IMAX® 70MM vs 35MM - Aspect Ratio Comparison - Prolouge_ (sic). The more of these comparisons you see, the more obvious it is that IMAX is an annoying gimmick, like 3D, or Smell-O-Vision, that adds nothing of significance. It isn't the improvement brought by THX sound for _Star Wars: Episode VI - Return of the Jedi._ People aren't about to go out and buy non-existent IMAX format TVs.

[@thekeikoprojectdocumentary]

Top Gun Maverick had great action and score, but the story was bad and predictable. We know in a Tom Cruise film, hes not going to die and that everything was going to be fine, which is why having an original character like Hangman or Bob should have been the main character and Mav as a side character would have been better and less predictable, Rooster we all know how his story starts and ends. It also ruins the ending of the original with Mav not staying with Charlie and ruining his award of being a Top Gun instructor and leaving saying it wasn't for him and still sad decades later about Goose when he had to learn in the original to let him go and then decades later still has a bad relationship with Rooster was just bad. Then going back with Penny and killing off Iceman was cheap. The story could have been better, oh and Rooster not knowing about the F14 Tomcat and calling it a Museum piece was stupid considering that every pilot knows about the Famous F14 Tomcat and would love to fly one since that plane and Top Gun made people want to become pilots and join the navy.

[@TartarosVods]

Talks about being objective then brings up how Blade Runner formed his personality. Then mentions how every scene is too long in 2049... let's not get started on the "enhance" scene of the original :D Many contradictions in a few minutes.

[@MF-ty2zn]

Maverick was bad. It was an unnecessary sequel. It felt like I was watching the original movie with all the best parts removed.

[@willgenre]

the first half of Dune is amazing... third act yikes, and spare me oh it's setting up part II naw.

[@gingetomassi8153]

So wrong about 2049

[@JoseRamirez-sq5ft]

In a nutshell: Bad movie; isn’t morbious 😒 Good movie: is morbious 😈 Awesome movie: it has the line “it’s morbin time” 🤩

[@bernie2990]

Who is the girl in the thumbnail?

[@filmcourage]

Mia Goth

[@leebrandt33]

I disagree with this guy. So many elite directors have had several duds in their catalog, especially as of late. And it always falls on one reason: a bad screenplay

[@DionysusJones]

#IStandWithTheNarrowAudience

[@ch355_]

obtrusive, pretentious, know-it-all…but, he seems to want to be a nice guy. of course that is just my opinion based on what i see on the screen. someone else’s truth might be different.

[@x1101126]

I like 2049 and I hate dune. Period.

[@JJMcgechan]

Boy loves top gun. It was ok. The original is terrible.