IFK World Kyokushin Full Contact Karate Tournament 2005. HW FINAL- Travers (GBR) vs Gateshev (RUS)

[@topeteperez]

I'm pretty sure that if these sport allowed punches to the head, there would've been a lot of casualties. These athletes are strong as a rock and very well conditioned, so please people stop the trash talk.

[@tchance65]

SamShine TV you should get on the mat and find out for yourself why they fight like that.

[@hevy6]

With headstrikes allowed it would turn into lethwei.

[@tannergoodman945]

Norberto Topete Being kicked in the face is more devastating than a punch. If punches where allowed to the face it'd be similar to bare knuckle boixng. A lot of facial damage but no brain injuries like with gloves. You can't throw a powerful punch without breaking your hand. So punches bare knuckle wouldn't be a drastic change other than bloody noses and facial swelling. The bigger problem would be guys breaking there hands and fingers hitting the head. The other footnote, kicks to the head cause more damage than a punch. I'd rather take a couple punches to the face than get clipped with a heel or shin to the chin.

[@ferrozm]

That's bullshit though just put on some fucking gloves. It's not real fighting if you can't punch the head

[@dickbison]

@@ferrozm it's not real fighting if you're wearing gloves, are you wearing gloves walking down the street?

[@normanoro206]

Kyokushin is a good striking art. The lack of blows to the head is unrealistic, but this is a competition, not a brawl; and compromises have to be made. Like others have noted, punches to the head are forbidden to minimize injuries to the fighters' hands. At the risk of sounding like an armchair quarterback (sitting on my butt in front of a computer is very different from actually being in the ring fighting someone), I felt like Travers didn't execute his game plan as well as Gateshev did his. Gateshev seemed focused on hurting his opponent's ribs, which is a good idea. Travers maybe was trying to destroy Gateshev's thighs (what Muay Thai fighters call "chopping down the tree"). This is also a really good idea. However, he didn't seem to implement his game plan as energetically as Gateshev implemented his.

[@Tuberculosispulmonarcronica]

Más que para evitar lesiones en las manos es más para que la pelea no dure 5 segundos, ya que de un golpe a la cara sin guantes ya basta para noquear a alguien

[@FreekyDeeky21]

Some people do get the misconception about Kyokushin. It does teaches defense but it also hardens the body so that when you do get hit you won't be "knocked" off your game"

[@ripntear8487]

Russian was a beast in this fight. The brit has heart took a beating but didnt back down. A true karateka. In the end they both showed respect. Love it.

[@jacksoaresjr5718]

For all those saying this isn't real karate, I'll remind you all that movies set unreal expectations for you guys. No, you can't knock 50 people out just by throwing 2 punches like in Ip man, 3 fit adults armed with a glass bottle or knife could easily take down even a professional and experienced martial artist. So please, remind yourself that martial arts doesn't always have to look brutal to be effective. Thanks, I am a black belt my self and I do not look like I'm in Bruce lee movies when I'm sparring.

[@robschanaynay3500]

its not real karate. real karate doesnt teach to exchange weak hits to the mid section until someone wins.

[@danielpantli2969]

Rob Scha Nay Nay Could not agree more. It is like very bad kickboxing. And very far away from proper karate. No kime no maai just weak punches to the body..

[@robschanaynay3500]

Daniel Pantli To be honest Im surprised these are supposedly black belts. Maybe they are just adjusting to compete like this and not what they learned but it is actually making them worse at their art. The range is completely wrong. They stand there in the pocket with hands only covering their mid body and just trade shots to the stomach apparently missing solar plexus or liver targets. These dudes are kind of training themselves to get knocked out if they ever get in a no holds fight. Definitely not good karate.

[@tchance65]

until you get on the mat, you'll keep talking like that. but get on the mat and you'll see. then we'll see who the real blackbelt is.

[@nerdygameraddicts861]

and your not really in bruce lee movies.

[@udelkuda984]

i love kyokushin kaikan os!!!

[@roelsmasterpiece9986]

trading punches.. i hit you you hit me too.. we hit each other in the body..they aretough but this is not effetive when they go against a muay thai fighter who block, dodge and do boxing counter punches.

[@thechamp7513]

@The Greatman You are mad. Thai boxers have the most conditioned body's.

[@josuasaputrasianturi7826]

Anyone in 2022?

[@vilgotelvingsson1403]

Punches to the head being forbidden doesn’t have anything to do with minimizing injuries to the hands. Kyukiahin fighters condition their knuckles to an incredible high extent. It’s simply because the fights would be too short if they allowed punches to the head since punches are easier to land than kicks and bare knuckles as hard a kyukushin fighter’s would simply make the matches way to short due to how quickly faces would get cut up. It’s basically to make the matches linger and the sport more enjoyable to watch. It also motivates the fighters to land more kicks to the head in order to knock the opponent out, which creates an elevated level of suspense and a more enjoyable sport from a spectator perspective.

[@THOMAZ565]

otimo video gostei muito bom

[@FreeportAaron]

I punch brick walls to condition my hands. I ain't got nothing on these guys.

[@Thecabbieintheyyj]

why do the guys just stand there and not circle the opponent? they just stand there and get beat on? doesn't seem logical?

[@eugenebell83]

I believe putting gloves on and allowing punches to the face would enhance a traditional style karate like this and there would not be casualties from it. I have been involved in this style as well as another. JMPO

[@MoiLoif]

If you look at boxing as an example, in the transition from bare fists to gloves a lot more people have died or had serious injuries after the introduction, due to more head shots

[@MoiLoif]

***** Basically, when you hit someone in the head bare fist you are likely to do some damage to yourself so people don't do as many head punches, the introduction of gloves meant that people were free to hit the head with no repercussion often leading to brain damage and death

[@erinslearningchannel]

tough fight!

[@jajausa3997]

No defence.most meanest style

[@imustbeemo1985]

прекрасный бой. англичанин только и умеет что держать руки и толкаться.. А наш красавчик, технарь, чудненько!

[@MrMicheledi]

Is there any karate in this match?

[@johnhud0079]

Karate is a self defense discipline In real life they are punching to the head if in a real fight

[@benjackson1506]

Where are the knees? If a Thai fighter was in this situation he would throw hard knees, and clinch if it was allowed. Why don't they throw knees that would fuck someone up at that range

[@Thecabbieintheyyj]

why would you fight like this?

[@kross777rlsh9]

By 12:00 their fighting looked drunk LMAO They must have been tired

[@FaridYM]

because its bareknuckle fighting....punches to the head would be too dangerous

[@Monna7777777]

But getting kicked in the head is less dangerous then getting hit in the head, okay buddy.

[@Monna7777777]

@Million Dollar Man what do you mean?

[@Monna7777777]

@Million Dollar Man ye i was just pocking fun of getting kicked in the head (very hard) is fine. but when it comes to punching it´s not allowed. so it´s not about it being harder to pull off.

[@Monna7777777]

@Million Dollar Man ye ofc i agree that it is easier to land a jab then a headkick. but why limit the danger level so that you can´t hit the head. but you can kick as hard as you can at the head.

[@iancook1506]

All that training. And for what? To just stand there and trade Blows?

[@-_--_-9109]

Isnt that the case for any fighting type sport?

[@dickbison]

Yes. If you don't do it there's no "trading", you just go down after one or two of these.

[@CrimsonTrace72]

@@-_--_-9109 absolutely not... I wouldn't let someone get that close. In BJJ, we don't trade strikes. We establish ground control and submit.

[@lelandmacdonald3443]

Can someone tell me why they aren't punching the face but will kick the face? Just rules or what?

[@rastadoge3539]

kyokushin rules

[@-_--_-9109]

Because a kick to the face is harder to achieve, and if you are good enough it shows balance and strength. A punch to the face would be an easy hit, but a kick is harder. Only a good fighter can achieve that and knock someone out with strong technique.

[@yumsentaipodia7860]

No direct hit to the face.

[@lovelyladynation]

These fighters do not get paid. They work regular jobs. Would anyone be a bareknuckle fighter for free?

[@noghaituvgan9598]

Timur Gatashev and Shamsudin Abdurashidov are from the Caucasian region. They are from Dagestan and aren`t slavic - russians. They have a Turkic - Tribe background ! Osu.

[@heresjonny666]

'Full contact'. Yeah, sure, maybe face hits would result in injuries, but that would teach them to not just stand in front of each other exchanging punches.

[@dickbison]

Well then boxing is "no contact" since there's a glove between your fist and their body.

[@Tdwoodcrafts]

Anyone who comments on this video negatively would get their ass beat by the last place finisher in this competition. Kyokushin Karate isnt playing yoga in a dance studio against fictitious attackers. Lolol

[@Oldhandlewasabitcringe]

Unless they do an actually legit martial art? This sport is good for conditioning in sure but fighting like this will get you killed against someone who knows how to fight

[@capolean2902]

@@Oldhandlewasabitcringe bruh in a real fight ofc u not gon jus punch at the body u gon aim for the face its ur fault if u dont hit the face

[@Oldhandlewasabitcringe]

@@capolean2902 Yea but if you get someone who practiced to only punch the body and not block/slip their head. Vs someone who does practice this the result is obvious no?

[@capolean2902]

@@Oldhandlewasabitcringe yea cause their both skilled fighters but if it’s a regular person on the streets then it’s different

[@Oldhandlewasabitcringe]

@@capolean2902 not necessarily, like the regular person vs mma fighter id say the odds are 10% vs 90%. These guys 60vs 40

[@lastninjaitachi]

Never understood this style no blocks nothing its just beat eachother up till someone stops

[@dickbison]

Try fighting a kyokushin veteran and you'll understand. It's like punching a brick wall.

[@thelastaramusha]

b i g o s u everyone got a plan until they get a punch in the face .

[@Monna7777777]

@@dickbison is that why we se none in the ufc? Or are there alot of them in the ufc?

[@Ch0obyHD]

@@Monna7777777 the top fighters in the ufc have kyokushin background like JSP

[@Monna7777777]

@@Ch0obyHD Do they use a lot of karate moves?

[@nurimansoetopo1391]

Russian athlete is more powerfull when delivering punching and kicking and he had more stamina than his opponent. We can see that from he did spinning back kick which consume lot of energy

[@Freeman_live]

Что это за каратэ, где нет защиты ?!...стиль "живая макевара"...

[@True_Blood_89]

Wait so you can't hit him in the face but you can kick him in the face? huh??

[@rastadoge3539]

results in less injuries

[@-_--_-9109]

Not just less injuries but it shows better balance. A kick is harder to do to the face, a punch is the lazy option. If you can kick someone to the face and knock them out without injuring yourself then it shows good conditioning as well as more strength in the legs and body.

[@killere2009]

full contact but not allow punching to the head? full contact?

[@dickbison]

Yes, they also don't kick the balls, it's still full contact.

[@psychedashell]

Judo, Wrestling and Grappling are full contact but they don't strike. Boxing and American Kickboxing are full contact but you wear gloves and aren’t allowed to elbow or strike below the belt. Kendo is full contact but you're wearing literal armour and only have to touch to score. Full Contact is a pretty vague term.

[@erickblack7016]

what a fuck !?

[@satchmoheckyeah4429]

@matt - the white guy comment is rather under handed. Race doesn't determine ability. The regulations pertaining to contact martial arts in a tournament setting are vastly compromising to the applicable mechanics of any given style. I guarantee those punches, kicks and knees hurt; their ability to continue sparring is testament to their conditioning.

[@TheFreddyEduard]

Chuck Norris got the name as Karate fighter, but is he realy so good as in his movies? NO...and i can proof that in two competition videos. One is with Chuck Norris and on with the 7 year girl (video 1 and 2) But watch also the last video (wirh photo's and video fragments) of the list where the girl is also 7 year old. VIDEOS Chuck Norris vs Jesse-Jane McParland

[@roybeute]

i know that russian guy whas like jeah aha you are hitting me but i don't care

[@adoabram]

Вобщето я думал русский его сразу убьет.

[@ferrozm]

Can't punch the face?! What's the fucking point then?

[@lovelyladynation]

They dont get paid. You try it

[@AdeeWuff]

I’m sure they are tough, strong but this is sure boring...

[@user-jz7pj9dk3h]

Que luta besta, n sai do mesmo golpe

[@TheFares94]

Russia win

[@smartcookie79]

WTF, if you can execute kicks like that why would you ever get close enough to your opponent for it to turn into a punching slug out...its like they took the best parts of karate and turned it into a shit version of boxing.

[@dylancox4978]

Not real karate

[@chabi.senpai]

+Vishal Naidu no, real karate is where you can kick your opponent in the testicles if you have to, no rules.

[@marcussierra1458]

+Andrés Aguayo anybody can kick someone in the nuts lol you don't need to learn a martial art to know how to do that.

[@Oldhandlewasabitcringe]

This is just really trash kickboxing, stand still with your hands down and swing for the midsection until one if them tires/outlasts the other, maybe throw a few mad kicks too that leave you on the floor No footwork, no head strikes, crappy defence, no grappling

[@MrSaiyan333]

Also no distance management, strategy, head movements etc. the're great, respectable sportmen but this style is fundamentally flawed.