Ducati Multistrada V4 vs. BMW R1250GS | Battle of the Giants (Parts 2+3)

[@BigRockMoto]

IMPORTANT: 7 Days after this video goes out, my technical in-depth review of the Multistrada V4 will be live, so stay tuned. Also, if you missed part 1 of this comparison road trip, here it is: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aZiboH6JmLl1a68 GEAR USED: ⚡ Klim Krios Pro Helmet(RevZilla): imp.i104546.net/WD9gOM ⚡ Klim Carlsbad Jacket/Pants: imp.i104546.net/BXGB5L ⚡ Mosko Moto Ectotherm: bit.ly/3GJUax6 ⚡ Mosko Moto Wildcat 8L Backpack: bit.ly/3OiE5Ss ⚡ Klim K Fifty 2 Jeans: imp.i104546.net/BXa310 ⚡ Klim Adventure GTX Gloves: imp.i104546.net/Eax204 ⚡ Sidi Adventure 2 Gore Tex Boots: imp.i104546.net/b3q5kx ⚡Puig Wind Visor: imp.i104546.net/ORazYN ⚡Mosko Moto BackCountry Panniers: bit.ly/3Q4PEgc ⚡www.lonerider-motorcycle.com/

[@Thelnferno]

Great vid!! Are you going to be reviewing the Multistrada V4 Rally when it comes out?

[@michaelstuart3650]

You and Brandon are a great complement to each other…should do more collaboration!

[@chevellless]

Great review. Love the way you go thru the bikes so thoroughly from a feature standpoint as well as actual in the seat observations.

[@BigRockMoto]

Glad you liked it!

[@JohnLaCroixRenaissanceMan]

Something else to consider, my brother in law was riding in a group off road with a guy who had a brand new multi-strada. When those go down, watch it. In small dumps that wouldn't do anything to a GS inevitably something would snap off the Ducati. I also observed that personally on a tour with someone who had a DesertX. A week with a lot of off pavement riding resulted in more damage than for any of the GS's. For example, the quick shifter on the GS is tucked behind the frame where on the Ducati it was exposed (the rider in our group broke his and we had to find someone to weld it together). BMW has done a really good job locating things where they are less likely to be damaged, in my opinion. That has helped me as a new rider since I dump my bike ALOT lol. Last summer I was on the fence between the Ducati and a GSA. Being new to the segment, I went with the BMW just because it has been around so long and I see so many of them out and about.

[@danielpalmberg3371]

Forgive me for repeating myself, but I would love to see and hear what you would say about the KTM 1290 SAS compared to theese two bikes! Nice to see a new face. You two worked really nice together! 👍

[@BigRockMoto]

Noted!

[@bearman515074]

I agree! Would love to see your review of the 1290 Super Adventure S and R

[@marekhlina74]

for me Ducati 1. / bmw 2. and Ktm 3. ....if money is no object...ended up with Tenere 700...kzbin.info/www/bejne/oF6kgKydpbmMr7c

[@beborodner930]

Ian, you just keep pumping out the very best motorcycle content out there! Thank you for your hard work. This is a really great and comparison review! I'd love to see more of you two do this with a Harley and Tiger, to round out the top of the heap adventurer touring bikes.

[@fallinginthed33p]

Bike World did a great review of the V4S under nasty British offroad conditions like cold, sticky mud. It looks like a capable performer if you're fine with dropping 25 grand of Italian machinery on a trail.

[@toddfarnham5572]

Some of the best motorcycle content out there, keep doing what you are doing!

[@BigRockMoto]

Thanks, will do!

[@challbekan6272]

Love your style of videos man. so weirdly fun. And so informative.

[@arstep2]

Thanks! I thoroughly enjoyed that. Admittedly, I liked the bottom line, but also the entertainment value, friendship, personalities, and humor were fun. I live in Sedona. I’ve been on those roads, on both bikes, and so it was a kick to watch. If only I had friends to show it to. That’s the first video of yours that I’ve watched. It won’t be the last. Cheers.

[@brucekendall52]

Comprehensive review.Nicely produced.Thanks.

[@BigRockMoto]

Thanks for watching!

[@frankmlchaelglasscock6539]

The best video I have ever seen just so interesting and so true cheers 👌💯💯💯💯👍

[@MountainView21]

Great stuff. Review, Comparison, travel vlog, even some off road riding tips. 😊

[@sandistropnik6544]

I bought myself in december the new gs rallye 1250 2023. It will arrive at my dealer shop in Slovenia by april/may. You convinced me in your videos for my dream bike. Thanks for your honest reviews and work you put in. Stay awesome ❤ Greetings from Slovenia

[@BigRockMoto]

congrats!

[@davidherringgo]

You guys were great , thanks Brandon for helping out , amazing bike Multi Strata . Would be the GS for me . After my test ride yrs. ago my hands were numb from the Dukes . vibes. Great 👍 review. Those roads into Oatman AZ. were really picturesque .

[@mikemerrill175]

Fun & informative trip. Between your vlog & the SoCal weather headed into the 70’s this week the need for a road trip arises. 🏍️

[@BigRockMoto]

Have fun!

[@honeyforce996]

That was really helpful to watch (@5:00, the instruction). I'd watch videos of you following a newbie, with intercoms. The POV is really helpful to me (being able to "see" my own rookie mistakes from your perspective. And then have your verbal commands for correction (and just general advice), in real time). Sometimes, I know so little, that I can't understand when someone says something like, "back there you took the wrong path, you should've stuck to the shallower sand", etc. (Like, #1, I don't know what shallow/deep sand is. #2 I was so focused on doing 1 or 2 things, I didn't even realize there was shallower/deeper sand). Being able to see it, and hear the immediate correction, hugely shortens the learning curve for me. Thanks for the vids, as always

[@885wc]

The correct way to look at it is if you can run a 2+ bike garage. If you can, the GS with a sporty second bike makes a lot of sense. If you can’t, then there is the Tiger 1200, Multi V4, S1000XR and a few others worth considering.

[@emfl4437]

I really enjoyed this series and the interaction between the both of you. Cheers

[@marcusaurelius9736]

Great installment. The extensive postmortem was appreciated. And surprising. Both of you opting for the Duc if price were not a consideration? That is quite a change from the GS vibe I got at the start with both of you. Thanks for a great review.

[@Swedeonamotorcycle]

Both theese bikes are so good. The 1300GS will be uncovered in SEPTEMBER and start sale a bit later (atleast here in Europe), 10kg lighter, 10 hp more. more narrow engine, and i am pretty sure it will have adaptive cruice control and blind spot radar. It will be a complete new bike instead of a facelifted R1200/1250GS.. The 1400 is said to come the year after that but personally im not that interested in an even bigger engine. You have such nice roads over there on the other side of the Atlantic.. Both on and offroad..

[@ronsmith9251]

Great series on these two machines!

[@BigRockMoto]

Glad you like them!

[@silveriojohan]

Thank you Ian, amazing the patience and caring you give to Brandon. Amazing journey...

[@bmahler]

I don't comment on KZbin ever really, but the ending commentary was very helpful and insightful!

[@batuonver5495]

What a nice and informative video came out from two good people! Keep coming these work please. Well put and explored many points. Thank you

[@kc95gs]

I appreciated hearing both of your opinions on the video, I feel it added a lot of value. Also, I expect the new GS to give the Multistrade a run for it's money in the technology department. Hopefully we will hear a launch date soon!

[@ferociousfrankie]

I agree on the illuminated switchgear. I love that feature on my MTS. Triumph has it on their Tiger as well.

[@samsara3694]

Excellent series, really watchable, and I'd say that's easily the best real world comparison between these two bikes I've seen, Thank you both for a great job.

[@davereinhart9933]

Thank you guys! I love the adventure content you put out and especially like bike reviews. I hurts my ears to hear someone liking a Ducati vs the beloved GS, but fair is fair. I'm keeping my GSA.

[@revilok8698]

They make many different flavors of ice cream and I can't believe how many do not like Chocolate! Nothing wrong with liking something other people don't. I almost bought the GS but ended up with the Ducati. I've had the Ducati for a year and a half and right at 18k miles. There are times when I see a GS and say to myself I should make the trade and get one. I have even gone and done the BMW Demo days and test out the GS's just to see if I would really be happier. Whenever I get back on my Duc I'm still happy with it so I've come to the conclusion that I would be happy with either bike but there would be times that I wished I had the other bike depending on what type of riding I'm doing. I would even be happy with the HD Pan America as that is a great machine as well. I guess my point is that it shouldn't hurt your ears that someone likes another bike over the beloved GS. It's a great motorcycle and sometimes people prefer Dulce de Leche flavored ice cream over Chocolate, and some just like ice cream as long as it just taste good. I seem to be that guy. Iam no longer a one flavor kind of guy and have no real brand loyalty. Just ride what you like until the next bike tickles you fancy even more.

[@matsrekdal3065]

You don't like the Multi V4? I've had 5 GS / GSA's (1200 & 1250), and now a Multi V4. I have not ridden much off road with any of them, but on road, the Multi really shines.

[@nicholasshaw7672]

So funny you guys, made me laugh out loud so much while being really interesting about bikes and loads of other stuff too. You are obviously good friends and very tolerant of each other in fun way - for the greater good...great review lads! Love both bikes hard to choose- as you prove.

[@BigRockMoto]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@sebastianacosta7116]

Hi Ian, very nice music on this video, goes really good with the footage. 👍👍🤘🤘

[@BigRockMoto]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@fasteddy3661]

Thanks, really excellent review!

[@localrouteadv]

Great video as always Ian. I'm sure I am in the minority, but the 360 cameras seem so unnatural. I understand it's an easy way to get the shot. I guess it makes me think about the camera instead of the shot. Just a little feedback. Keep up the great work.

[@CampHikeSki]

Awesome series Ian. I’m coming off a ‘22 Suzuki GSX GT+ for a Multistrada V4S and your videos have been very helpful in my comparisons and decision

[@stevanantic3019]

really awesome episode, cool guest! Really nice.. Wish you best guys

[@bgorrell]

Just for clarity - my 2023 Multistrada V4S DOES have linked brakes...The Ducati manual doesn't really go into much detail about it honestly - and I only see a few comments like "Attention: Although combined braking is available (rear brake activation when rider uses only the front brake), using the two brake controls separately reduces the motorcycle braking power." LOVED these videos also!

[@GediminasZakarauskas]

Do You have problems with maintenance?

[@bgorrell]

@@GediminasZakarauskas Not a thing so far! I purchased mine in October 2022 and now have 5600 trouble free miles.

[@Hogdriver88]

Good comparison and Brandon’s a funny guy. I wish my bikes had adaptive cruise - my wife’s new car has it and it is a game changer for long highway use. Maybe it’s time to go to an RT?

[@kramr7012]

Excellent comparison. Thank you- Exceptional depth offered from real time riding! Looking forward to the 100th anniversary GS Motorrad

[@hughess004]

Great ride review guys. The chain thing comes up a lot and here's my take on it (and I own a Multistrada) it takes me less than 10 minutes to clean and lube my chain which I do every 500 miles. It's much lighter and very inexpensive to replace.

[@b33gft67]

Even though I couldn't afford either bike, truly enjoyed the video. Great job!

[@BigRockMoto]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@cliftonsr]

I want to see more of this Ian and Brandon on adventure bike comparison!

[@mattkalin3139]

So I was cross shopping both of these bikes and finally decided to make a purchase.. I ended up buying the Multi V4 Pikes Peak… Yes I know its not and ADV Bike… But for me If I am honest I was really looking for a Sport Touring Bike. I think the raw Horsepower and the Italian Sexyness of the single sided swing arm pulled me to the Darkside. Great Video and can’t wait to watch the V4S Review!

[@rsm4091]

Brandon is gold! Have him on more. Luv his wit.

[@michaeldobson8859]

Very good real ride evaluation between the two bikes. It would have been nice to do the same comparison between the V4s Multistrada and the old 1260 Multistrada on the same trip.

[@user-bl4sh4oh5q]

great discussion & review!!!!

[@matsrekdal3065]

Interesting... So, you actually went from, before the trip, being more of a GS guy, to leaning over to the Multi? As a former GS owner, and now a Multi v4, i will say this: Welcome to the dark side! 😅

[@GediminasZakarauskas]

It has more problems with engine? After couple years 😊?

[@benkelly2190]

Fuel range definitely matters, irrespective of cost. If I’m touring I would take comfort in mileage range. the multistrada is too poor on fuel range, for me. A very good solid comparison.👍🏻

[@81722Les]

Range is the key when touring.

[@benkelly2190]

Having said this, and having owned several GS’s I would still have the Ducati…if it wasn’t for my new KTM SAS.👍🏻

[@larsholst6216]

You pay 30G for a bike, chance is you can afford the gaz.....

[@Hallnadventure]

Thanks guys… I ride a 2021 GSA 1250. I don’t have saddle time on a Ducati, but you nailed the good and marginal traits of the GSA. Ride on!

[@Redneck_On_A_Wheel]

Think it would be awesome for which bike is most comfortable for the passenger 😍 review!!!

[@kamenslaveev1821]

A VERY good video. I also watched part 1. Would you be able to make a video reviewing the 2023 Ducati Multistrada Rally when they arrive to dealers this May? I personally think that the Rally would be even closer to the GS in terms of adventure capabilities compared to the Multistrada V4. Thank you, Big Rock Moto!

[@Hoshi_Toranaga]

You really should try the SuperAdventure S. No need for a shaft, just mount a Scottoiler, my chain lasts 25k to 30k miles.

[@fugi9604]

I'm probably one of the few who likes the look of the GS better than the MS. However, the MS is a good mix of sports and touring motorcycle, which also does well on unpaved roads. I had a 1200 gs lc and now I have a 1200 gsa lc and I'm not an off road rider. But sometimes I ride on solid gravel roads, and it happened to me both with the GS and the GSA that I almost fell when I got into slightly softer gravel with the front wheel. Both times I managed to bounce with the help of my leg. Although I'm only 5'11 with slightly longer legs, the standing position forces me forward, but handlebar risers are out of the question for me. With lower foot pegs I have improved the matter, but I still have an unpleasant feeling when riding on gravel roads and sometimes find myself "resting" on the handlebar when standing. So it was very very interesting for me to watch your video, especially the explanation about wobble.

[@RChuge]

usually I don’t comment videos but now I say that you are right at least 95% 👍 I rode 32k km on a 2021 GSA and 2022 V4S full last year. Some weeks ago I sold the GSA :) Anyway believe me the MTS has some annoying issues you missed 😅 Thanks for the video, it’s the best comparison of these bikes ever 🤟

[@BigRockMoto]

thanks!

[@matsrekdal3065]

I came from a 1250 GSA to a 2022 Multi V4s as well. What are your biggest con's about the Duc? 🙂

[@mattkalin3139]

I just bought a Multi v4 PP.. What are the annoyances?

[@RChuge]

@@matsrekdal3065 3 its a butt burner (BTW the rear seat mesh of GSA fits the front seat of MTS) 2 the adaptive tempomat works till 160kmh only. 1 throttle leg. The power comes instantly, that is a problem below 60kmh in small corners. The Alps full with these :) The BMW accelerates smoothly out of the tight corners. The MTS slower in hairpin, even with road 6 tires. Maybe the new software helps… +1 you have to use the key for the pannier in all cases

[@RChuge]

@@mattkalin3139 below… Congrats to PP That’s the best bike on earth now:)

[@John-motolistit]

After riding the 22 KTM 1290 Adventure, 22 BMW R1250GS and the Ducati Multi V4S, my choice is the Duc. The only con I found on the bike was fuel mileage.

[@wikstrom777]

Great review Ian and beautiful scenery! Seems like the road tires did a decent job on the gravel. What tires are you using? Keep up the good work and ride safe!

[@BigRockMoto]

GS had motoz GPS, ducati had road tires

[@anxiousappliance]

The Duc has the scorpion 2s Theoretically a 90/10 tire.

[@81722Les]

Very interesting observation with the illuminated switches and you will think it should be default on adv bikes given they sport more switches and buttons. It should be standard given it makes night riding more palatable.

[@richis65]

Ian, you made me buy a lightly used 2022 BMW GS1250 and I like it. I actually bought it down the hill from you in Beaumont. I have a 2015 KTM 1290 Super Adventure, which I will be selling shortly. I really enjoy your videos.

[@peterasztalos281]

Do we get a rematch including the ktm 1290 SAS?!😊. Nice video overall, thanks for the good work!

[@philedwards5703]

Your buddy has a hilarious sense of comedic timing in his delivery.

[@MrRiddicules]

Great comparison Ian, loved it. :) For me it's fairly simple: the head says the GS for its dealer network, ease of use and shaft drive, but the heart wants something more from a motorcycle. Something that makes you smile, when you see it, when you drive it, when you hear it, something with that X factor ... GS is perfect, but boring AF. Money no object, I think I would squint my butt cheeks and try to look past the chain (which I hate) and take a chance on the Duc. Red one though,l. But since we live in the real world, where money, reliability and rationale still matters... I'll be riding my Moto Guzzi Stelvio for a while yet 😂

[@axelfiraxa]

The KTM1290 exists too and is less expensive than the Duc and is just as much of a hoot to drive

[@rs8197-dms]

About vibration. My multistrada is a V2, so I can't be sure that this translates completely, but my suspicion is that it does. My bike as bought had various rev regions of vibration which, to be honest, really used to annoy me. I bought and installed an ECU programmer, and I spent many months learning how to tune the fuel maps to get the engine to do what I wanted it to. One of the things I found (pretty much by accident) is that the fuel balance between the front cylinder and the rear cylinder is quite critical. To smooth out the vibration, one has to up the fuel map for the rear cylinder by a small (and changing) percentage as the throttle opening and revs increase. It took me many months to find a good balance, but now my engine has negligible vibration at any throttle / rev point that I actually use. There is still some vibration at very high rpm, which I haven't bothered to address because I seldom if ever go beyond 8000 rpm. I am sure that I could solve that too if I wanted to, I just can't be bothered with it. I suspect that the same will be true about the V4, because like with the V2, the rear cylinders are going to run hotter, and that changes the behavior of the cylinder including power output. Unfortunately this is probably a theoretical issue, because as far as I know there is no commercial programmer for the V4 ECU yet (feel free to correct me if I am wrong about this). The last time I checked, the Alientech programmer could do anything up to and including the 2018, but nothing beyond that

[@idratherberiding3456]

As a multistrada owner of the old style, the 1200S, Ducati seems to be playing the “sporty” role on this comparo. But I think, having ridden a few GS’s, the BMW is a more complete and mature motorcycle. But I haven’t ridden the V4 yet. If I were to have only one motorcycle it would be the BMW.

[@jscottlebeau1229]

Great Job guys, I'm still torn between the two but since the Gas mileage is sort of comparable im leaning toward the Ducati. From what i read to begin with i thought the Ducati was getting 36 mpg and the BMW was getting 50 mpg. But if there is only a 3 to 4 mpg difference i think the Ducati it has the Wow factor...

[@Moto_Steve_Adventures]

Let’s face it, the GS has had a great run. But, they are no longer on top. Both the Multi and the Tiger 1200 Rally Explorer are next level machines compared to the antiquated BMW GS. I recently bought a new “big” adventure bike, and the choice, for me, came down to the Multi and the Tiger. I chose the Tiger Rally Explorer based on less maintenance and insurance cost. But, both are excellent choices.

[@robertwittman9227]

Love the road trip videos.

[@TallyHoTech]

You should cut out the conclusion at the end in the garage.and upload that for more people to enjoy

[@ksheehan330]

Amazing job guys! I really loved the content and the dynamic of the two of you on this video. Big thank you! As a Ducati V4S owner, I will add: In my opinion, Ducati is a performance motorcycle company. Their customers, like me (this is my 3rd Ducati) are going to want a high rev’ing, chain drive bike. It’s part of the character and DNA of their bikes. I would love to not have to maintain the chain, but that is the price I pay for the bike I want to ride. Compared with other Ducati’s, this bike is incredibly smooth, even at low revs. I usually ride at higher revs, so it never stutters, for me. On the price factor, it has been my experience that if you are a loyal Ducati customer, your dealer will cut you a deal. And the bags do come with, so when I considered the GSA, the bags were extra, making it about equal. On the brakes, they are in fact linked on the MV4S. It states that in the manual. The back brake on Ducatis are really for fine tuning in the corners, I guess, and they are always soft feeling. I’m used to it and like it. On mileage, I get between 28 mpg and 31 mpg on the V4S. I ride it hard. I ride my Hypermotard just as hard, and get 43 MPG. The V4 is thirsty and I stop for gas, a lot. Thanks!

[@BigRockMoto]

great info, thank you

[@ksheehan330]

Also I understand the BMW has a great ride touring. The Ducati can be adjusted. I change the suspension front and back to soft. This gives a great ride on bumpy roads. Yes, you do have to set it up in advance and it takes some practice working with the software. There are some tight bumpy roads on my routes, and having this setting works great. The softer throttle response in urban makes the bike so smooth and you still have plenty of power in tight turns. So I have sport to rip, touring to ride regular, and urban to either chill or handle the poorly maintained roads.

[@mikkokarkkainen1924]

Thank you for an interesting ride and comparison video. It would be fantastic to get to ride in those same places. I got to test ride the V4S in a test ride event here in Finland and it was pretty amazing. First time riding a Ducati and also by far the most powerful bike I've ever ridden. But it felt very manageable. The prices in Finland are something else though. The V4S starts at 32 980 and R1250GS starts at 25 550 (with zero optional packages). These are _euros_!

[@The_combat-nurse]

Your videos are fantastic. Do you have any plans on reviewing the ktm 1290 super adventure R?

[@BigRockMoto]

Ktm doesn't respond to my requests for test bikes

[@The_combat-nurse]

@@BigRockMoto well that's unfortunate

[@ERUtheWINDRIDER]

Very nice vid, I like that Multistrada vs GS, but I will be even more interested to see an 1290 vs 1250 vid.

[@BigRockMoto]

You and me both!

[@brucedavis41]

Excellent revue, Just sold my GSA but still have my 18 RT which I will not part with. Now I want to add a Multi.

[@Ian-bq7gp]

You can feel what traction there is through the handlebars and when you relax the bike will feel much better. You are right about gripping to bars too much.keeping the power on will help stop speed wobbles too. I believe that learning to ride in the 60s 70s and 80s the handling, tyres, brakes with springy frames that handled awfully taught us the hard way. No traction control, ABS or rider aids. You had to feel through the bars and ride it loose especially in the wet. I remember in the late 80s having a Honda cb250 rs with a Thailand made front tyre that never wore out. The rubber was hard and even worse than Avon square section sidecar tyre I had on a BSA A10. In the wet I remember going from Sloane sq up towards Victoria and the Thai tyre was so vague aquaplaning for several hundred metres. I also went down a hill past Wimbledon park station in snow and ice and wouldn't touch the front brake as I could feel the awful slides and lack of any grip. It was like BSB in the wet on slicks. Motocross in the mud teaches riders so much. It's incredible how good bikes are now and how they handle and give feedback. I'm lucky as the only accidents I've ever had have had have been being knocked off or hit and runs by drunk drivers or people cutting me up or pulling out of side turnings without looking. That's why the lifesaver and defensive riding is so important and anticipation of drivers overtaking on the inside for example. So many despatch riders had accidents and if they went 6 months accident free they were doing great. Oil slicks on roundabouts or diesel on the road is lethal especially in the wet .

[@SpaceCitizenFaye]

Can't wait to see an update to this with like the V4 Rally and the new 1300GS

[@lukefish7562]

Alright! Here we go🏍💨

[@johnhansson8646]

As an owner of a 2024 Multistrada V4 Rally I would warn anyone against thinking of the as a "Best bike". The chassis is great (really great). The engine is nice for agressive driving - not so for more relasex driving (as in adventure touring). After 1600km the engine sounds as if someone has poured gravel into it. It was ok from the beginning but has suffered from increasing noise from valves and/or timing chains. The Desmo Ducatis have always been noisy but the V4 has no desmo valves. You need earplugs when you drive this one. At 3500 rpm, the noise is so bad that you find yourself prepared to push the clutch in case of a seizure… Below 3000 rpm, the bike is practically un-driveable. Don’t bother to drive in slow traffic - even if you can bear the enormous amount of heat emitted from the engine. The quickshifter, that was supposed to be really smooth on these bikes, is really a hit and miss. It’s great when it works, but it rarely does. When the engine is warming up, it works ok. When warm…not so much. Less than 50% hit rare. But when it does work, it’s really smooth - at least the up-shifts. When it doesn’t, and you never know beforehand, the gears will bang in, leaving you wondering how much abuse the gearbox can take. The dealerships (at least in Sweden) leaves a lot to wish for. Any problem I had, the response was that "a Ducati should be like that". The service person in my case, seemed to believe that the V4s have desmo valves and blamed the noise on that. That doesn’t give you much confidense. I got zero help with any problem with the bike. Clearly the warranty isn’t worth anything. But they charge crazy amounts for mainrenance (4000 Euro for 1000 km oil change). Eventually I contacted Ducati support, as I got nowhere with the dealership. However, they showed little interest as well. This is the most expensive bike I have bought, but unfortunately also the worst bike experience. Don’t make the misrake I made, believing that this is a GSA-competitive. This is nowhere near the BMW experience. It has a better chassis than the Bmw, and is really fun on twisty roads. It’s also better offroad. But that’s it. The Bmw’s engine is light years ahead in the adventure bike context. Bmw’s customer service isn’t always the best, but compared to Ducati’s, it’s golden.

[@Loiczzr]

I love Oatman. I live in Vegas and often with my 13 years old son we ride to Oatman for brunch. We then just hang there for a couple of hours relaxing and then go back home

[@kuhndj67]

Rear brakes have always been soft on the Multi's... and Ducati's in general. The Multi brakes ARE linked and overall work very well but the rear is very soft. IMO if you really are looking for the most refined ADV bike you can get then the GS is the way to go, it's just THAT good... but I'm more than 50% hooligan at heart and the Ducati fills that need for me (for tarmac/sport focused ADV). For dirt focused ADV I bought a 701 Enduro... and there's really no contest there.

[@MikesProjectsandHobbiesMC]

Oatman was cool. Funny we sat at that exact table waiting on a thunderstorm in October in Vidal.

[@jgtaylor2201]

I love that I always learn new things from watching your channel. This video taught me two things I did not previously know- 1. Jackasses prefer a Ducati over a BMW and 2. There actually is a person under the age of 90 that eats a PayDay.

[@BSC610]

I've basically been 73 years old since I was a kid, so just barely.

[@jgtaylor2201]

@@BSC610 😆 touché

[@RamblingRuters]

I actually found a 2021 Multi V4S brand new and in 2022 and was considerably less than a GS or GSA, and the V4S comes standard with the luggage, the V4 model does not as well as the Pikes Peak edition, (no travel package options come standard), although most dealers in the States never ordered them.

[@Thelnferno]

Great comparison!

[@BigRockMoto]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@charlybravo]

Great video but I'd love to watch a comparative between Multistrada and the Africa Twin. Thanks in advance ! P.D. The position of the intermittent in the multistrada should moved more to the rightside because it is always hindering contact with the joystick. IMHO

[@Cashmore1671]

Great videos guys! I’m just about ready to put my first set of tyres on my 21GS, and I think I’ll go with Michelin Pilots since the vast majority of riding this big twin is primarily on the street. I road B class Enduro for many years in my yute and I’m quite comfortable in all sorts of terrain, however as you pointed out this is a 600 lb bike which is nearly twice the weight of my old dirt rocket YZ 490. I also ride long distances solo and at 76 years young the last thing I want to do is to dump this beast in the middle Timbuktu. Thanks again for the fun video.

[@ryanmalone2681]

I’d take the MS for touring all day every day, but as soon as I want to go off-road I want the GS, and since I always want to go off-road, it’d have to be the GS for touring.

[@tereyzheng8869]

excellent review! Would you be doing a Ktm 1290 super adventure S review soon? It has adaptive cruise control option too

[@CPUspeed]

Great series! I think the Ducati suffers the same $4000 US tariff that the GS does. You know to try to get you to buy an American bike that’s even more expensive! BUT if you want to go fast on a motorcycle an adventure bike is the WRONG form factor. Fundamentally Ducati blew it I want range not hp on an adventure bike, especially when riding out into the middle of a desert 😂

[@kbelue2176]

Great review! I'd like to see these reviewed along with the 1290 Super Adventure S if you get one....

[@petemarckmann3389]

I've had a couple GSAs and KTMs and as much as I like the engine and final drive of the GS, I couldn't get over the ergos of the GSA. I always felt I was reaching which caused me some shoulder pain over time. Now owning the Multi, I'm not going back.

[@enriquelopez2527]

Greetings from Guatemala, the comparison you make between those two beautiful machines seems very accurate and useful to me, I have always used GS, the last one I had was the GS ADVENTURE, and last week I changed to the DUCATI V4s, and My first impressions about it are simply fantastic, and I will tell you in these 7 days that I have had it, not my technical opinion, but how I see them in a mythical world, the GS as the beast, the Ducati as the Bella, the GS with that alpha masculine personality, and the Ducati with that warrior but delicate feminine personality, with superlative capabilities, like an Amazon Queen, that is where I have baptized her, “Amazon Queen”

[@johnsaxton503]

Would love to get your take on the 1290 Super Adventure S versus the other big bore adventure touring bikes. I absolutely love mine.

[@לוחמים_כלכליים-מבית_קלימבה]

Thanks for another amezing video.. Waiting for moto morini xcape review

[@loumanning9683]

That was a great video. I’m probably in the minority here but I have adaptive cruise control on my car and I don’t like it one bit. I’ll set it on 80 and be cruising down the highway not looking at the speedometer, just watching the cars in front of me and you look down and realize your doing 60. Where as without it you come up behind a car going slower you just go around them. It’s just really smooth as it is designed to be, but to me it’s just unnecessary. I liked the expression on your face when you guys were discussing gas mileage at the pump. I’m with you on that one.

[@billcurnew6020]

Great review and fun video! As a solo rider, I'm gonna have to disagree on the merits of Adaptive Cruise Control. Regular Cruise Control? Yes, absolutely love it. I can see how ACC would be a benefit for riding together with others, but for me, not so much. (my car came with it and I fiind no use there either). CC helps fight fatigue and allows me to set the pace I choose. If I catch up to someone, I'm not interested in adapting to their pace. I would rather control the situation. I suppose it boils down to individual riding styles and comfort, but to me, it's an unnecessary added expense. I do like the idea of the blind spot indicators, though. In an unfamiliar, busy area, any extra help like that could be really valuable. Anyway, no big deal.....just some thoughts. Thanks again for your usual good work!

[@revilok8698]

With the adaptive cruise control you can still control the situation. When I was shopping for an ADV bike and decided to look into the Ducati V4S, I thought about trying to just see if I could get it with just the regular cruise control to save a few bucks. My thoughts were right along with yours on the subject. After I made the decision to buy the V4S and it came with the ACC I started trying it out. It didn't take long for me to change my whole perspective. It is a real game changer as far as fatigue goes and with having to not fiddle with controlling your speed. I just set it to the fastest speed I want to go and get in a lane and go. Still ready to do whatever I need to do if something unexpected pops up. Now that I have used it on a bike, I will now want it again on my next one. May not be a deal breaker if it is the bike I really want, but I will certainly consider it as a very useful option to have.

[@BigRockMoto]

totally agree @Revilok86

[@manodehielo]

Very good video, as usual. What do you think about KTM 1290 Super Adventure S? It would be an interesting motorcycle comparison... Spain is so beautiful , but you have an incredible country, with incredible landscapes

[@BigRockMoto]

ktm doesn't respond to me requests for test bikes

[@BlueMarbleRider]

Really thought I was going for the Ducati, until the sub 4000rpm engine chatter/chug came up. Reminds me of the original multistrada L-twin which had very poor low end grunt. It seems to be a very well thought out and executed bike, if only they could get over the Ducati low end bucking. Perhaps Ducati could trade off a little of the free-revving nature of the bike with a slightly heavier fly wheel...

[@matsrekdal3065]

The Vibe / chatter is really not a big deal. I have the Multi V4 and have previous owned 5 big GS's, so i'm familiar with the benchmark. I have also tried several Ducati L - twins, i.e. the Multi 950, and they are absolutely not comparable to the V4. Try one!, i don't think you will be disappointed. 👍

[@dc26]

Two things: As far as mileage I'm not as concerned about actual mpg as I am range. Doesn't bother me if I'm not the mpg leader but I do like to cover as many miles as possible between fillups when traveling long distances, so fuel capacity becomes a big factor. Also, just wondering how tall the two of you are since you both seemed comfortable on both bikes. I'm 6'4" and usually feel a little cramped on most bikes. Wondering which bike you feel would be more comfortable for taller riders. Great review!

[@mikemills5144]

Excellent review, just wish you would have had a Tiger in there ;) Would be nice if you wrote out the cost of ownership for xx miles. I think you did a video on that years ago with the mid size bikes.

[@kirozahariev502]

How are you doing guys? Very nice video even the donkey he liked it Ducati multi-Strada before is the best one more time. Thank you so much for New York.🤝🔥💪🏻❤️🙏🏻🇧🇬

[@craigfoster294]

Street tires on a 500 pound adventure bike trying to navigate sand is a disaster waiting to happen (not to mention nerve-racking and absolutely no fun). I have a KTM 1290 SAS with a Dunlop Trailmax mission on the front and a Continental TKC 70 rocks on the back. This is a really good tire compromise for on/off road riding.

[@michaeldhansen]

Clutch control is a learned trait : )

[@jbean530]

I saw the multi had some recalls or replacements on that rear brake. Also, some replaced and bled the line and replaced the pads with improvement. Some air was in the line for some. Just observations.