The science behind ‘us vs. them’ | Dan Shapiro, Robert Sapolsky & more | Big Think

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@bigthink
@bigthink 3 жыл бұрын
Do you recognize your own biases?
@yumnaapta
@yumnaapta 3 жыл бұрын
us vs them: ppl who not watching this channel
@KillerOfCereal1
@KillerOfCereal1 3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes.
@timofeymistral4496
@timofeymistral4496 3 жыл бұрын
Getting better every day thanks to mindfulness
@PedanticNo1
@PedanticNo1 3 жыл бұрын
Of course I do! (/s)
@gavinbamber6082
@gavinbamber6082 3 жыл бұрын
It is easier to recognize other people's biases.
@timeisup3094
@timeisup3094 3 жыл бұрын
Robert Sapolsky touches on this topic extensively in his lectures at Stanford and various interviews.
@hifibrony
@hifibrony 3 жыл бұрын
The Stanford lectures are fascinating and very enlightening.
@michaeljohnson6752
@michaeljohnson6752 3 жыл бұрын
And his book behave
@I-0-0-I
@I-0-0-I 3 жыл бұрын
Sean Carrol’s Mindscape has a great interview.
@timeisup3094
@timeisup3094 3 жыл бұрын
@Mike Kane It think the “new book” will focus mostly on the absurdities within the justice system.
@radhikayadav1409
@radhikayadav1409 3 жыл бұрын
@Mike Kane really glad to know, I am looking forward too could you please tell me the relevance between Kahneman and sapolsky do they share something in common? thank you
@felonious_c
@felonious_c 3 жыл бұрын
All these videos on cognitive bias are really making an impact on my day to day interactions. It's hard to be unbiased, much harder in practice than on paper.
@AceofDlamonds
@AceofDlamonds 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. Even Dr. Sapolsky says he has violent fantasies and then he tries to talk himself out of it for a short time but they keep coming back. Part of being a typical human...
@squamish4244
@squamish4244 3 жыл бұрын
WAY harder. That's the job of applied neuroscience. I do neurofeedback, brainwave entrainment and vagus nerve stimulation in what started as an attempt to get off benzos but has evolved into an effort to get my nervous system to calm the fuck down in general.
@KootFloris
@KootFloris 3 жыл бұрын
Did you also include the bias/assumptions of the speakers and your own in your conclusion?
@jdavis7993
@jdavis7993 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it actually is pretty difficult. Even dealing with bigots, I understand that their biases TRIGGER a bias in me, and it can be hard not to hold it against them and remember that they can change.
@sweetbunny6198
@sweetbunny6198 3 жыл бұрын
@J Davis Are you red pilled?
@LDP00011
@LDP00011 3 жыл бұрын
Sapolski explains things really well!
@Ddub1083
@Ddub1083 3 жыл бұрын
Just a heads up, you can find his entire Biology and Human behavior course on youtube as well as other courses of his.
@middearuna6163
@middearuna6163 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ddub1083 in my to all î,
@peetsnort
@peetsnort 3 жыл бұрын
During my younger years I have been arrogant. Now 61 i realise that we all need each other whether we want it or not. Every scew pot has a lid and we're all cogs in the clock of life
@KootFloris
@KootFloris 3 жыл бұрын
I think you could be an example for many (Americans?) caught in the Us vs Them trap, either by cultural bias or by design through political players who manipulate their audience.
@KootFloris
@KootFloris 3 жыл бұрын
@wisdom niko Great addition! Sadly the political leaders still haven't learned from global heroes like Nelson Mandela, that integrity and the will to solve huge issues for many, including 'the other side' should rank above super PAC funding.
@KootFloris
@KootFloris 3 жыл бұрын
@wisdom niko I know. One fun idea would be if our leaders couldn't step up to be candidates, but they could only be forwarded by the people, like each neighborhood choosing the wisest (wo)man among them, and they choosing after a year from among them the best to lead the city, etc. This council would be yearly elected with hidden votes, so even your favorite smart aunt could suddenly be a leader, because many people sensed her integrity, and we could collectively ignore the loudmouths shouting choose me. ;)
@Matrinique
@Matrinique 3 жыл бұрын
Heheh stealing this quote from you. Well said.
@peetsnort
@peetsnort 3 жыл бұрын
@Macho Sancho I brought you into the world and I can take you out. Don't worry. You will grow old and hopefully up
@FutureMindset
@FutureMindset 3 жыл бұрын
This is really important to understand, especially during our age where the political divide is absolutely insane. So much of what we do and think is determined by our primitive instincts that evolved to historically aid in our survival. Humans have survived in small tribes and groups and been hostile to members of opposing tribes because it was essential to our survival and while these conditions don't necessarily apply to our world, the instincts have remained.
@gontlemanggeneral-segolodi5222
@gontlemanggeneral-segolodi5222 3 жыл бұрын
Humans were genetically engineered by aliens.
@AceofDlamonds
@AceofDlamonds 3 жыл бұрын
@@gontlemanggeneral-segolodi5222 Stop with the pseudoscience. No we weren't.
@afriedrich1452
@afriedrich1452 3 жыл бұрын
All I want to know is how to weaponize the coronavirus. Oh wait, there was a book written about that about 5 years ago. It is so nice when knowledge is shared in our world.
@AceofDlamonds
@AceofDlamonds 3 жыл бұрын
@@afriedrich1452 Are you claiming bioweaponry was introduced in that book? You're 100 years late. Are you claiming pathogenic human coronaviruses weren't known until recently? You're 19 years late. Are you claiming scientists and activists didn't warn about a pandemic until "5 years ago"? Then you're several decades late. Silly conspiracy theory claptrap isn't "knowledge". lmaoooo...
@afriedrich1452
@afriedrich1452 3 жыл бұрын
@@AceofDlamonds Why are you claiming I made claims? Anyway, the head of that silly conspiracy theory claptrap is highly honored and well paid by a well known government.
@arthurwieczorek4894
@arthurwieczorek4894 3 жыл бұрын
"Nothing interesting begins with knowing, it begins with not knowing", that is, a question or query line.
@I-0-0-I
@I-0-0-I 3 жыл бұрын
This was by far the best piece that I’ve seen from this channel.
@PBAmygdala2021
@PBAmygdala2021 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, it's DAN Shapiro. Dan. The alternative would've been too ironic.
@cassieoz1702
@cassieoz1702 3 жыл бұрын
As soon as you label someone 'other', your brain sees 'lesser', and that justifies your bad behaviour to them.
@terrillmel
@terrillmel 3 жыл бұрын
Woah.! That's profound. I've tried to describe this, but have never been able to do so in such few words
@heavymeddle28
@heavymeddle28 3 жыл бұрын
I have a story about racism. I'm Swedish, 49, so it's safe to say that I've had my fair share of immigrants and racism around me. Now I live in Thailand since 8-9 years and now I'm the different one. I'm not a person. I am the "farang". People stare and talk when they think I don't see. Some don't even give a rats about that. Maybe you think that I'm full of shit but I'm not making it up. I experience that every day. Its not easy. Drives me insane sometimes. And I have the choice to go back. The immigrants in Sweden don't have that option. Long story slightly shorter... I'm going to think twice when I look down upon people from different parts of the world from the day I get back home. Really eye opening. And I've never been intentionally racist. Everyone should get a dose of racism before they look down upon any other brother or sister. That's what we are. No matter religion or colour. Sounds clicheish... I know. But... 😊
@justbe1451
@justbe1451 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, great share, thanks. 👍
@naejin
@naejin 3 жыл бұрын
No, it's true. I've heard similar stories when foreigners try to live in China or Japan or such. Looking from another person's perspective is hard to imagine accurately, but seeing is easier when you walk in that perspective.
@angelinarobert622
@angelinarobert622 3 жыл бұрын
i'm genetically Swedish, Dane, English, and Finnish. i was born in California. But i've been living in Japan for 20 years. i'm just a white man in an Asian world. i like it here, can i stay in Japan?
@irishhi8333
@irishhi8333 3 жыл бұрын
Isn't a certain proportion of who are "us or them" based on early socialization? Wouldn't folks who grow up with more social heterogeneity potentially have a greater "us" than "them"? And, doesn't social indoctrination, propaganda and spiritual inculcation influence humans' perception of these elements as well?
@FoxinTaiwan
@FoxinTaiwan 3 жыл бұрын
You don't have to think twice about it. People are people.
@hifibrony
@hifibrony 3 жыл бұрын
Seventeen astonishingly brilliant and informative minutes.
@Lhorez
@Lhorez 3 жыл бұрын
I thought one of the speakers was Ben Shapiro. That would have blown my mind... and broken the irony meter.
@Ikbeneengeit
@Ikbeneengeit 3 жыл бұрын
Same here
@JarodM
@JarodM 3 жыл бұрын
Likewise, we all fell for that last name...
@unknownethnicity
@unknownethnicity 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Ben really is a “them” isn’t he?
@Ikbeneengeit
@Ikbeneengeit 3 жыл бұрын
@@unknownethnicity Ben S is not someone known for well reasoned science based education.
@unknownethnicity
@unknownethnicity 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ikbeneengeit man, those “others” really make no sense to us!
@Mussetrussen
@Mussetrussen 3 жыл бұрын
Well we might be very quick to judge based on first impressions, but as Daniel Kahneman showed us in Thinking fast and slow, knowing that this is how we work, we can be skeptical of our own first judgements, and think again. We can choose to ignore our first impulses, get more frontal lobe involved, and make more well though through decisions and actions. Acting like this, and continuing to get better at this, for me, feels like a sort of will-driven personal evolution.
@Messi10947
@Messi10947 3 жыл бұрын
that makes sense and sounds really cool
@cassieoz1702
@cassieoz1702 3 жыл бұрын
Great book
@BlueInk912
@BlueInk912 3 жыл бұрын
🙌 That is how positive change starts it long and vigilent road💪.
@timkemmerling9037
@timkemmerling9037 2 жыл бұрын
What a great compilation of great thinkers. Awesome lecture on social organisation! So much to read up on.
@AceofDlamonds
@AceofDlamonds 3 жыл бұрын
Possibly the most important topic or set of topics on Big Think. The ability to recognize your own biases and innate tendencies is something no other living being does, and it is key to creating a better world.
@Calligraphybooster
@Calligraphybooster 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t conclude that too soon. Dolphins can make detailed 3d images of underwater objects via sonar. But... they can also ‘say’ the sound of the reflected pulses to other dolphins, thus planting an image directly into their brains. I tell you this just to make aware of levels of sophistication that exist elsewere, and that suggest wider possibilities.
@stheday1
@stheday1 3 жыл бұрын
Modern world requires different tribes to get along. Peace and prosperity depend on it. The ideas in this video are probably more important than anything else at this point in human history.
@jaq3405
@jaq3405 2 жыл бұрын
This actually emphasises the importance of representation and mindful portrayal of others, particularly in the media or in books etc which some people are actually fighting against.
@medhachakraborty7474
@medhachakraborty7474 3 жыл бұрын
We criticise others of being evil while we nourish devils within ourselves .
@JarodM
@JarodM 3 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed everyone's insight, thanks~
@coop3814
@coop3814 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Great explanation of a topic that is especially important for as many people as possible to understand in today's social climate.
@SquizzMe
@SquizzMe 3 жыл бұрын
While none of this seems particularly new, it is wonderful to have it articulated so clearly. In the end, we are all slaves to our egos. What flatters the self and pleases the senses is good; what hurts the self and causes pain is bad.
@SK-tk6bi
@SK-tk6bi Жыл бұрын
True
@pc3822
@pc3822 3 жыл бұрын
Always great to listen to Dr. Robert Sapolsky speak!
@bharatapat
@bharatapat 3 жыл бұрын
The summary: Technically we are always associating people like us (in-groups) and them (outgroups). This division that we create in the brain is enhanced by Oxytocin in the brain. We become closer to our people and away from others because of it. It's classically seen in many movies where the heroes are always someone like us, living with us and villains are them, the aliens, the non-English speakers, etc. We tend to like people who look like people around us. Most Indians will like Indian faces more than American faces. Here also we create a sense of us and them while trusting people. We can be easily manipulated to change who is us and who is them. Example: In general you will likely say Indians are us and Americans are they. Now let's say you like Chennai Super Kings. Then the Americans and Indians who support CSK are us and those who don't are they. The dividing line is extremely malleable, the good thing is we can have empathy for 'them' because of this, while the bad thing is we can be manipulated to believe who is us and who is them easily. We are hardwired to judge people at the first look. In absence of information, we make assumptions about things in a fraction of seconds. We can not wait to know if a reptile with sharp teeth has the intention to hurt us or not, we assume it hurts and we act accordingly. But this hardwiring is malleable. We can change our mind when we are safe and have more information about the reptile. In the first instance, Batman's Joker seems evil, but as we learn more about him, we can empathise with him.
@fretnesbutke3233
@fretnesbutke3233 3 жыл бұрын
A commitment to self-honesty and the awareness of subconscious impulses and abandoned falsehoods that science affords us is the best we can do. It took me over 5 decades of life experiences and scientific literacy,and deep soul searching,to become aware of the fearful truth of how un-self-aware a huge portion of humanity is.
@justinkarlin
@justinkarlin 3 жыл бұрын
Superb video. Oxytocin is not a panacea. Beware the dangers of careless compassion.
@cass8330
@cass8330 3 жыл бұрын
What do you mean by careless?.. also, what should ppl do instead?
@donolsen7634
@donolsen7634 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating! Thank you .
@JuanAntonio-wj2rv
@JuanAntonio-wj2rv 3 жыл бұрын
"Subjectivity is the only certainty" Kierkegaard "Hell is other people" Sartre
@vethopefully8535
@vethopefully8535 2 жыл бұрын
by far my fav vid by big think!! This answers a lot of things on my mind!
@Calligraphybooster
@Calligraphybooster 3 жыл бұрын
The point Prof. Amy Chua brings up is very simple, but significant because branding and algorithems are aiming at molding us into identities we did not even choose ourselves, but seperate us from others.
@Ddub1083
@Ddub1083 3 жыл бұрын
No they are aiming to show you a piece of content that you are most likely going to keep watching. An effect of this process is that the topics recommended get smaller and smaller as they get more and more accurate. But that is not their "aim"
@zerola5154
@zerola5154 3 жыл бұрын
For more I recommend "Survival of the Friendliest," "Blueprint: The Evolutionary Origins of a Good Society," and "Enlightenment Now: The Case for Reason, Science, Humanism, and Progress."
@Messi10947
@Messi10947 3 жыл бұрын
thanks will check out. i think i will like survival of the friendliest
@JarodM
@JarodM 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the recommendations~
@cass8330
@cass8330 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙏
@drbelanger73
@drbelanger73 3 жыл бұрын
I love what you are doing here. There is an enormous lack of education, poverty, and equity that will prevent folks who need to hear this from watching. I'm a grad student too. Take this to the streets
@urbanwarchief
@urbanwarchief 3 жыл бұрын
Pfft you go to the streets
@marthamryglod291
@marthamryglod291 2 жыл бұрын
In my experience, it's a lack of interest in the topic preventing people from learning. It seems that most people just want to keep what they "know" consistent. It brings a feeling of security.
@MrBannnaHead
@MrBannnaHead 3 жыл бұрын
Engage in the process of creating perception .... well said
@hamza3065
@hamza3065 3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking about these issues and Big Think drops a video. Love this content. Keep stimulating my mind.
@farizanroslan
@farizanroslan 3 жыл бұрын
Easy. Get to know 'them' better and scrutinized 'us' more than usual. The more we do this, the more refined assumptions we can think of.
@charlesdp
@charlesdp 3 жыл бұрын
So interesting and well explained.
@karinak09
@karinak09 3 жыл бұрын
THIS. IS. SO. IMPORTANT.
@jonhil33
@jonhil33 3 жыл бұрын
Covid has really demonstrated to me the truth of this - in-group/out-group biases are hard wired into everyone, everywhere. It's as instinctive as it gets. Thankfully, as Sapolsky explains, it can be easily overcome by people who understand it.
@glennsimpson_aka_bobbysaccaro
@glennsimpson_aka_bobbysaccaro 3 жыл бұрын
I particularly take to the "loyalty to the tribe" issue. It's so frustrating when I see someone come to the correct conclusion for the wrong reason, whether it is factually off or just a reasoning I don't agree with. Out of fairness, I feel like the logical problem has to be pointed out, but then I get accused of not being supportive of the overall position. Very frustrating.
@kalyanib4046
@kalyanib4046 3 жыл бұрын
💖I always like these videos...
@thebeamerdreamer
@thebeamerdreamer 3 жыл бұрын
(I know its out of place but) Hey fellow army 👋
@kalyanib4046
@kalyanib4046 3 жыл бұрын
@@thebeamerdreamer heyy💜
@eihwazz12
@eihwazz12 3 жыл бұрын
finally someone breaks the taboo. Guys? We are not godlike beings, we are just an animals. That's the hardest to swallow pill for humanity.
@malihealizadeh2720
@malihealizadeh2720 2 жыл бұрын
this video is wonderful and helpful. thank you very much
@SuperRicky1974
@SuperRicky1974 3 жыл бұрын
Marshal Rosenberg dedicated his life to understanding this and found another way to understand the us and them.
@jannetteberends8730
@jannetteberends8730 3 жыл бұрын
Here is a nice anecdote. I live in a neighborhood where most people are not European white. I am. One day I was walking my dog and there was a group of four European white young man on the corner of the street. Immediately I was very suspicious, what where they doing there. Didn’t trusted it at all. Apparently my brains started to consider people of my ethnically they group as “the others”
@kenlevi6630
@kenlevi6630 3 жыл бұрын
Very good video. Question everything we believe.
@pantherenebuleuse
@pantherenebuleuse 2 жыл бұрын
Magnifique - very useful
@ginrummy3996
@ginrummy3996 3 жыл бұрын
The infamous prejudices. Can we approach every situations without tension?
@crazkurtz
@crazkurtz 3 жыл бұрын
I believe looks are huge subliminally, but I think language is the biggest barrier between “peoples”. I find it easier to get along with some who speaks similar to me, regardless of that they look like. If you cannot communicate properly with someone, you mis trust them.
@innerlocus
@innerlocus 3 жыл бұрын
From the book, 'The Four Agreements' Don't act on your assumptions as if they were facts.
@quanty30
@quanty30 3 жыл бұрын
The only us vs them that matters is class.
@theaspiringthinker5548
@theaspiringthinker5548 3 жыл бұрын
Objectivity is a goal to strive for, not an end state.
@HamletsMill25920
@HamletsMill25920 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, always knew about Robert Sapolsky, but Beau Lotto is a revelation. Almost a younger version. So rare to have a neuroscientist who is so eloquent and yet explains it simply with great power.
@blessedveteran
@blessedveteran 2 жыл бұрын
🤯 Thank you
@iosaccoleman
@iosaccoleman 3 жыл бұрын
What we've been waiting for 🙌
@84knucks05
@84knucks05 2 жыл бұрын
Everything you do is grounded in your assumptions Favorite quote of this video!
@LOGICZOMBIE
@LOGICZOMBIE 3 жыл бұрын
GREAT WORK
@zumbull9170
@zumbull9170 3 жыл бұрын
Robert Sapolsky is one of us he is right! O_O
@evacope1718
@evacope1718 3 жыл бұрын
This makes me think of that black man (can't remember his name) that became friends with KKK members and made over 200 of them turn in their robes. He appealed to their commonality by talking about shared interests like jazz and it broke down barriers, and racism. Shared commonality needs to be encouraged more often.
@NicholasDunbar
@NicholasDunbar 2 жыл бұрын
that's always been the challenge
@johnnycomelately6341
@johnnycomelately6341 3 ай бұрын
Voted the best video of our times 👍
@bdouble3585
@bdouble3585 Жыл бұрын
We're a constitutional republic not a democracy love the show👍
@1-Sir-
@1-Sir- 3 жыл бұрын
We should change us and them to make a better world
@PierceArner
@PierceArner 3 жыл бұрын
This is also why you have antagonists in visual media being portrayed possessing a number of attractive, trustworthy, or sympathetic features in a narrative whenever the audience is meant to be more inclined to listen to both sides of the conflict between them and the protagonist. This is utilizing those inherent reflexes of ours by making intentional design choices, in order to make it so that the audience is more likely to have to individually determine which position is morally justified and aligns with their "us" group - rather than outright rejecting the person in the position of the enemy in the narrative structure _just_ because they're in a "them" group and not in the "us" group that you're aligned to via the story's initially structured perspective.
@kezzyhko
@kezzyhko 3 жыл бұрын
Does this also apply to audio, like voices and familiar accents?
@perpetualgrimace
@perpetualgrimace 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@Ddub1083
@Ddub1083 3 жыл бұрын
It applies to ANY input to your brain because it is your brain that is doing the processing.
@charlesrobinson9881
@charlesrobinson9881 3 жыл бұрын
It is a universal trait of human nature the people prefer to deal with their own kind, their own language ,their own values ,their own traditions. They trust their own kind more. It probably it became an innate feature of human nature during the long millennia when they were in living in tribes. People learn to depend upon and trust their own kind is a trait which holds society together. When immigrants come they universally prefer their own kind.
@lumbratile4174
@lumbratile4174 3 жыл бұрын
Beau lotto has caused me both a crush and a serious mental breakdown
@Wastingsometimehere
@Wastingsometimehere 3 жыл бұрын
Good video, but I don't mind "theming" someone for their own destructive behaviors and opinions. What I can't defend is theming someone over things they can't help physically and mentally. There is no justification for being rotten to a person over those things.
@billyLego4855
@billyLego4855 Жыл бұрын
What you said there is contrast difference. Becouse one is associated with who thry know and other doing and being the same thing is considered different of understanding. Disconnecting it is.
@tonirenee3161
@tonirenee3161 2 жыл бұрын
Alex🥰 wish American men could express themselves as beautifully as you do. ☺️
@colinlee1237
@colinlee1237 3 жыл бұрын
Great compilation. Y’all need Joshua Greene on to talk about this topic
@sistajoseph
@sistajoseph 3 жыл бұрын
If it's hard wired, why not just accept it and learn to live with it.
@ScienceFTW
@ScienceFTW 3 жыл бұрын
"We aren't going to make it, are we? Humans I mean." - John Connor
@whatrtheodds
@whatrtheodds 2 жыл бұрын
CALLING ALL SCIENTISTS When I first met my now partner I found his face repulsive. I would look him in the eye and I would scrunch my face up because I just wasn't attracted physically at all. funnily he thought it was a cute quirky thing I did when we first met. I'll never tell him why I actually did it, but I was thinking to myself- " this is some weird bias" (was it a childhood trauma with someone who looked like him, was it a preconceived idea I had of who I'd fall in love with? I don't know) but I kept saying to myself " his a good person, I really like his personality, his values " maybe I'll get used to his face. And after 4 months of dating I did. I now find him very cute🤕🥺💕. Which still blows my mind. I see his face and i see a man of beauty (probably because he actually is on the inside 🥰) . Soooo point is challenge your bias.
@TheStreetLiftingStrongman
@TheStreetLiftingStrongman 3 жыл бұрын
Once you start to realize that all things are one in the same energy, these primitive mindsets start to fall away. It takes effort and retraining ourselves. But I have seen it happening in myself.
@hughallbrooks8369
@hughallbrooks8369 3 жыл бұрын
Right primate mindset that is what these experts are reinforcing Humans don't interact on a wild animal level. If this debate was totally true How would they explain interracial couples Ppl just override one biological impulse over another This science is shady
@felipejr.deleon9741
@felipejr.deleon9741 3 жыл бұрын
You are correct. We just have to make people more self-aware to recognize that they have a higher self that does not fragment us into "us and them."
@hughallbrooks8369
@hughallbrooks8369 3 жыл бұрын
@@felipejr.deleon9741 RT the World Corporations promote divisiveness among different races and ethnicities. Amazon purposely hires people not inclined to unify together so as not to be able to unionize against exploitation. Its always the have against the have nots everything else is distraction
@felipejr.deleon9741
@felipejr.deleon9741 3 жыл бұрын
@@hughallbrooks8369 Definitely. Politicians also like to see people fragmented into left and right, Democrats and Republicans, and white and blue collar workers to keep them distracted and not be able to unify to demand from their leaders to work for the common good.
@afriedrich1452
@afriedrich1452 3 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, my energy is ultraviolet. Compare that to your measly infrared.
@patmoran5339
@patmoran5339 3 жыл бұрын
I noticed that Sapolsky said many times "oh my God". That seems to be an example of "us versus them" phenomena. Also, this information is extremely important. However there's another whole set of information that was completely disregarded. That is information on cultural evolution instead of biological evolution. Biological evolution has very little reach. Cultural evolution can have unlimited reach. We are not automatons like all the other animal species. We are very different. We are the only species that can create new knowledge. Also, I believe that we can create unlimited improvements in moral and political philosophy if we choose to do so. The focus on biological evolution should be replaced by a focus on cultural evolution. Specifically, we need to develop ways of eliminating errors, like religions, without violence.
@Adhil_parammel
@Adhil_parammel 3 жыл бұрын
Only fools trust stranger.
@VokeVideo
@VokeVideo 2 жыл бұрын
2:27 if you gave it to everyone, it might have a very interesting, unexpected effect. Question, when you're in a belligerent and hostile mindset, is Oxytocin coursing through you at that precise moment, or is it that the oxytocin bond you have with the "Usses" is the catalyst for division which then would invite adrenaline and cortisol and the like? And do those chemicals displace Oxytocin or can they coexist? Genuinely asking.
@24CarrotCake
@24CarrotCake 3 жыл бұрын
Fabulous!
@tomschneider7555
@tomschneider7555 3 жыл бұрын
So it looks like the Us vs Them bias has been extensively researched and understood but somehow it has not yet reached the mainstream discussion about racial behavior in our societies
@TheComedyGeek
@TheComedyGeek 2 жыл бұрын
About typicality : I think we are more likely to trust the faces we can read best. That will be the ones we have seen the most examples of, and that tends to be whatever in-group we are part of. I'm not saying prejudicial biases play no part. After all., prejudice blocks empathy. But I think readability is often key, especially in those moments of racism perpetrated by people who are not otherwise racist at all
@williampassavant2027
@williampassavant2027 2 жыл бұрын
We have to work at overcoming the us vs. them predisposition every day. It takes effort and vigilance. And while we're working on our own behavior and beliefs, we should also strive to help others begin to see what's behind some of the beliefs and biases that they have. Of course, this can be very frustrating, but it's worth the effort.
@tomato1040
@tomato1040 3 жыл бұрын
YOUR FACE=mc2 IS YORE FAITH IN THE OTHER SIDE=mc2 OF THE MIRROR CALL MIRACLE=mc2 of, "Is IT ME=mc2 or is IT memory? "
@aster5031
@aster5031 3 жыл бұрын
10/10
@gabrieljordan8015
@gabrieljordan8015 3 жыл бұрын
One cure to this us vs them disease we are currently dealing with is limit your time on social media and spend more time reading books or going for a walk.
@senantiasa
@senantiasa 3 жыл бұрын
6:53 "Once you attach to a tribe... no longer is content important... at the end of the day the most important element in terms of being part of a tribe is loyalty" I disagree. I feel so attached to my ethnicity culturally, linguistically and in terms mindset. There's just a special bond when I meet someone from my ethnic group. However, I would automatically abandon them if I feel that they have bad character or are selfish or unjust to other people and I would rather defend people from other ethnicity who weren't treated well by that person.
@Calligraphybooster
@Calligraphybooster 3 жыл бұрын
I like your attitude. All it takes to be a gentleman is the wish to be one and act that. But I think your loyalty to your group was foremost in your mind, less so your group demanding your loyalty.
@dharmatycoon
@dharmatycoon 3 жыл бұрын
Sapolsky is so great man
@ApPersonaNonGrata
@ApPersonaNonGrata 2 жыл бұрын
CORE to religious and political ideologues. But it's not obvious to the person caught up in it; due to all the justifications and the personal assumption of a supremely correct narrative. So then, as a common example, religion-minded people (aka: people of authoritarian principals) can be heard saying things like "whoever doesn't agree with this narrative of values and truth ... is "rebelling" against truth, and against goodness (or against "God")." So they reason/feel that "it serves them right, if the enemies of righteousness end up suffering or destroyed." . So then they effectively exempt themselves from fair reasoning, ethical behavior, and from compassion; in the name of a fictional and perverse "greater good".
@christosphilippou1693
@christosphilippou1693 3 жыл бұрын
Hello, can you please recommend me some books on this topic
@jim67z
@jim67z 3 жыл бұрын
Sebastian Junger - Tribe
@christosphilippou1693
@christosphilippou1693 3 жыл бұрын
@@jim67z thanks
@SmokinOak
@SmokinOak 3 жыл бұрын
I think this is especially true of the United States. No country on earth loves to villainize other people and other countries as we do.
@atulpj
@atulpj 3 жыл бұрын
Tribalism seems quite sensible evolutionarily but we need to find a space to collaborate with other tribes too, though different from us. Evolution cannot have a specific direction.
@timeisup3094
@timeisup3094 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, there are cognitive and biological advantages to getting along with people from other cultures.
@atulpj
@atulpj 3 жыл бұрын
@@timeisup3094 By tribe I meant social and mental groups not reduced to culture. With the kind of global interaction we have today, it's harder to tolerate people who differ from us ideologically, ethically or culturally.
@user-rb7ns9yj5y
@user-rb7ns9yj5y 3 жыл бұрын
Psilocybin does wonders on this
@atulpj
@atulpj 3 жыл бұрын
@Shimmy Shai As we move into the information age we see the emergence of intellectual tribalism which creates groups like Greenpeace etc which span cultures and continents. It is the very narrow regional forms of tribalism that leads to xenophobia and racial discrimination. People do work well together in like minded groups.We do need to realize that diversity and localisation inevitably lead to the formation of culture. If everyone behaved homogenously world wide there wouldn't be any individuality left.
@atulpj
@atulpj 3 жыл бұрын
@Shimmy Shai But then again all these things tend to play out naturally. Maybe many of these behaviours are a consequence of a colonial past and subsequent globalization. I'm just irked by the fact that many nations and people were able to get away with the damage they wrought on the world. Maybe tribalism is perpetually prevalent and may continue to be so. We should incessantly enquire into the reality of what's going on and try and educate our respective tribes.
@alicecoppers8980
@alicecoppers8980 3 жыл бұрын
You forget to mention culture and how difficult it is to get out of that? Take for example Indonesian islands that do not want foreigners to visit. Their resources are very limited and they cannot share.
@aHarzoo
@aHarzoo 3 жыл бұрын
Bill Hicks - Its just a ride
@illuminationgoddess3
@illuminationgoddess3 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting.
@mequable
@mequable Жыл бұрын
I looked at the screen, saw Todorov's face and found it attractive. Only now at the end of the video I look again at the screen and see the name - assuming he's of Bulgarian descend, it comes to no surprise that I can relate to his face features.
@a.randomjack6661
@a.randomjack6661 2 жыл бұрын
The us's are always exceptional. I know, because I'm one of them.
@tarikmounih3559
@tarikmounih3559 2 жыл бұрын
That guy with big long curly hair teaches in the Stanford University. Awsm💯
@maksimatic
@maksimatic 3 жыл бұрын
Never underestimate a homeless person’s cognitive adroitness, many of them are actually quite smart and have some pretty good things to say if you just listen. Thank you big think for giving one a chance😆 (You have to know me personally to understand my sense of humor🤦🏽‍♂️)
@Englishcomprendsive_input
@Englishcomprendsive_input 6 ай бұрын
So when you travel to a new country if you speak English(not the local language), the locals may not treat you well. However if you can speak the native language no matter how bad it is, they will turn into hospitable immediately. That's always fascinating to me.
@juliusfishman7222
@juliusfishman7222 2 жыл бұрын
All we need is a new them, Aliens. Humanity will unite immediately
@likklej8
@likklej8 3 жыл бұрын
My thems are conservatives and I’ve realised that by thinking that way I’m the same as them so I’m them too. Peace and honour Earth
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