High Speed Disking at 10 MPH with a Degelman Pro-Till

Big Tractor Power is out in the field with a Degelman 33 Pro-Till. In this video BTP talk's with Jason Faulkner from Degelman about the advantages the Pro-Till overs in tillage. The high speed disk in this video is being pulled by a 620 hp John Deere 9620R at 10 mph.
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[@brianruane8505]

Excellent video - with a very informative and educational commentary! This is undoubtably the best site for displaying farm machinery..!! Keep it up..!!

[@bigtractorpower]

Thank you for watching. I enjoy getting to film and learn about farm machines. Degelman makes a great tillage tool.

[@d.j.ghetoswift1206]

Love the way it beats the ground up! Great looking seed bed

[@AlextheDutchDairyfarmer]

This machine does the best work I've ever seen on your channel. Pretty impresive

[@bigtractorpower]

The Pro-Till is a great fall and spring tillage machine.

[@markstengel7680]

Looks like its a very well made implement. Massive frame & large tires. Thanks again BTP

[@bigtractorpower]

It is a tough tillage machine. Well built and does a nice one pass tillage job in the fall and spring.

[@richardmcleod3577]

Wow that big rig gave me goosebumps

[@Military-Museum-LP]

Finally someone offering a tillage tool that will last generations! Thanks for listening to farmers..

[@bigtractorpower]

👍

[@Military-Museum-LP]

I don't often make comments but this tool works.

[@Ticky66MN]

Very impressive piece of machinery. Great review on it. Thank you

[@bigtractorpower]

Thank you for watching.

[@farmerjakebrake4520]

Another great detailed video thank you BTP

[@bigtractorpower]

Thank you for watching.

[@clayjones3755]

You always show some fine equipment.

[@bigtractorpower]

Thank you for watching.

[@derrickpeters2803]

Love it. These videos are so informative.

[@technomeister2913]

stfu

[@paytonmac5665]

Great job for one pass till ,great vid ty

[@fredivory4304]

Man that depth adjustment is slick!

[@bigtractorpower]

It’s a nice design.

[@jankotze1959]

Amazing tiller, I guess one pass with that machine and the field is ready, great video BTP

[@bigtractorpower]

Yes it is a one pass tillage machine. Less tillage time leads to faster seeding time.

[@SuperAliceleo]

Thank You for another great video Bigtractorpower

[@bigtractorpower]

Thank you for watching. Glad you liked it.

[@karllangner1579]

I like this Degelman disc. Strongly built and effisient

[@bigtractorpower]

Very effective tillage implement 👍👍

[@shawnfox8002]

Nice implement a little bit deeper maybe to really bring the stalks out of the ground sizing up the chaff looks good.

[@NorthViewModelShop]

Very cool video and really need to see the walk though of the machine

[@bigtractorpower]

Thank you for watching.

[@cameronkinnan6697]

Awesome video, interesting.

[@bigtractorpower]

Thank you for watching. The Pro-Till is a stand out tillage tool.

[@davidoden]

I pulled a 40 foot sunflower disk for Charles and Brian Sunday with their 9620RX. I was going 6 mph throttled back to 1790 rpm. The Degelman tool looks like a great way to disk the stalks quickly

[@bigtractorpower]

Very cool. I saw the 9620RX and 9460R parked on the By-pass across from Hutson around noon in Sunday around noon. I took pics of the 9620RX parked for a thumbnail pic. Are they not running the DMI crumbler on the Sunflower this year?

[@larry4082]

Dang, that's a far cry from when my Dad turned me loose on a Massey 44 with a 7' drag disk. I think it may have been 4 mph. Didn't even have an umbrella! Natural air conditioning!

[@bigtractorpower]

Those were the days. I grew up in the late 70’s and the early 80’s. I had a neighbor that still ran a pair Massey-Harris 44s along with two 970 Agri-Kings. They were neat to see in the field.

[@paulthomas2236]

Do something on the old tractors 1940 love your show

[@SebastianWarth]

Awesome Video Buddy!!

[@bigtractorpower]

Big John Deere Power

[@slpss2002]

Another great video. Love to see different manufactures implements in action. Love that big JD also!

[@bigtractorpower]

Thank you for watching. The 9620R and Pro-Till are impressive machines.

[@rezazafari59]

I love this video

[@agrospol3342]

green monster, nice work, thumb up, greetings

[@travissteinkraus6307]

My question is what kinda head did they used at harvest? Stalk master or really aggressive snapping rollers like precision or calmer?? That makes a big difference on how that thing will work. Looks like a nice machine. Should be able to quite a lot done at that speed. Might need a parachute to slower down on the end rows lol.

[@furukama5390]

Very interesting! Nice 🚜💪

[@bigtractorpower]

Thank you for watching.

[@paddypoolfc3579]

Great video. How much does the implement weight?

[@ontarioagguy2769]

Saw one of those just today!!!

[@bigtractorpower]

Very cool.

[@ampatriot]

They need to engineer a large caster set up for the wing wheels. They rut the ground pretty bad when turning. i would think that will lead to maintenance issues over the long term.

[@AlextheDutchDairyfarmer]

I totaly agree. A expensive machine like this shouldn't do that. But it makes great work on the field

[@MultiPowerlin]

If you skip every other pass it's not as bad

[@bigtractorpower]

A caster wheel would eliminate the burning. Although as the headlands are disked last so the burn is knocked out.

[@guillermoariasgallardo4148]

Good video

[@bigtractorpower]

Thank you for watching.

[@valentusslimroast6716]

great info

[@bigtractorpower]

Thank you for watching.

[@andresilveira4967]

Otimo video amigo 👍👏

[@bigtractorpower]

Thank you for watching.

[@robbass1521]

Just had breakfast .thank you.

[@chrisbghfinc.5445]

I own a 40 foot model. Works very well in fall for spring seedbed prep and to level out sprayer ruts. My typical working depth on canola or cereal stubble is 1" - 1.5" so horsepower requirements are actually quite reasonable. I pull the unit at 9.5mph with 500 HP no problems.

[@bigtractorpower]

Very cool.

[@helderhenoch3698]

Good espetacular parabéns 🇦🇫👍👍

[@Military-Museum-LP]

He's flying!

[@bigtractorpower]

The Pro-Till can cover a bunch of ground.

[@dougmiller9198]

I am always wondering how long it takes to pay for this equipment. Lots of "seat time" regardless. Folks eat bread and grains and have no clue what it takes to get it to the table

[@mikebonge7206]

Such great machine

[@bigtractorpower]

Degelman makes an impressive tillage machine 😁👍

[@mikebonge7206]

Looks like someone in the Oilfield built it.

[@paulyarek]

Each blade has its own independent bearing I wonder how that will hold up?

[@daspicsman]

I’d much rather take one apart than a whole gang at once. As he said there are three seals and sealed bearings.

[@ls_oldi_pics47]

Nice!

[@bigtractorpower]

Thank you for watching.

[@ls_oldi_pics47]

@@bigtractorpower i com from germany

[@adeereplowboy]

They look like they leave a great seedbed. It looks really even and there aren’t and clumps. They do also cause a lot of compaction. The guys around here use the in the spring to get the fields ready to plant. Their wet spots are getting bigger every year because the water can’t soak in. They don’t do any heavy tillage, just run the high speed disc.

[@bigtractorpower]

This is used here in Kentucky in the fall to work ground from corn to wheat. In June they cut the wheat and double crop beans into the wheat stubble. In October they cut the soybeans and the. Deep rip the ground 18 inches. See this video of tillage a year latter m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/m32Zm5WAjM2KbbM

[@interman7715]

One would wonder about transmission and drive line wear running at those speeds?

[@interman7715]

John W Cool.

[@germanburgos3829]

Q maravilla estas maquinas.,. Felicitaciones

[@nickprobst718]

Kinze actually bought out degelman and have there own models in kinze paint. We just demo'd one a week ago and actually had better luck running at 7.5 mph than 10 mph the packing wheels in back were not leaving those traces in the dirt and when we were finishing the field looked like a concrete floor. Awesome machine but I'd steer clear of the 33' models because of transport width the 26' model is a lot narrower in transport and better visability. Be a lot of country roads you couldn't get down with 33'.

[@bigtractorpower]

Degelman was having allot of growth with Pro-Till sales that the Degelman factory could not keep up with. Degelman has partnered with Kinze to have Kinze manufacture the Pro-Till. The Kinze Mach-Till offers expanded sales through the wide range of Kinze dealers. It is a win win for both companies. Kinze did not by Degelman.

[@MultiPowerlin]

Kinda intresting the difference between this and our vertical tillage tool like our Salford but how they both are pulled about the same speed but work completely different styles

[@bigtractorpower]

I would like to film a Salford. They make interesting tillage machines.

[@user-xn8hj3xo9y]

Is it verti till?Or just discing?

[@albertafarmer894]

We have one of these machines they are very nice and also popular here where we have lots of irrigated land.

[@bigtractorpower]

Very cool. What size do you run?

[@albertafarmer894]

We have the 26 footer,you cover a LOT of acers fast so we don't have the widest model.It has cut down the times and number of passes it takes to make a good seed bed by a lot. When we have a very wet year and have lots of straw we use it on the dryland too and set it to 1 inch depth so we don't disturb the soil too much.

[@bigtractorpower]

👍👍👍

[@felixvelasquez4473]

Fantantik

[@jrice1091]

I like it.

[@bigtractorpower]

It is a well built machine.

[@treeman8881]

Man I wish I had one of those when I was discing stocks looks like it does a great job how much are they

[@bigtractorpower]

It does a great job. It’s heavy duty and leaves a nice seed bed.

[@buddymartin7923]

I would love to see a head to head between a good high speed disc an a minimum tillage tool like a Great Plains turbo-till

[@bigtractorpower]

It would be neat to show. If I have that opportunity, I will film it.

[@michamatthias]

THE BEST !

[@bigtractorpower]

👍. Thank you for watching.

[@4gauge10]

Very impressive B.T.P.,but what about fuel consumption per hour running the Degelman with this 9620R?.

[@bigtractorpower]

About 18 gal an hour.

[@arthurmiller9434]

Hello BTP. How does the Pro-Till compare with the Wishek? Aside from speed of operation, what are the advantages / disadvantages? Thank you!

[@bigtractorpower]

The Pro-Till advantage is speed, individual blades that flex over stones and that it is one pass. The Wishek advantage is it really plows up the ground deep. It depends on what you need on your farm to decide which fits the operation best.

[@arthurmiller9434]

bigtractorpower Thank you.

[@sharpshooter7127]

Wonder what kind of h.p. you would need in our sandy type soil mixtures we have down in the southeast?

[@bigtractorpower]

I am not sure. If you would like to contact Jason at Degelman I am sure he can answer. You can email me at [e-mail]

[@sharpshooter7127]

@@bigtractorpower Great I'll be in touch soon

[@ubu760]

The standard answer is 15hp/ft @ 2 to 2.5" deep. As you go deeper the more hp you need. Wheat Ground (2") 15hp/ft, Corn Ground (3.5-4")18-20hp/ft, Potato Ground (Sandy) (4") 20+hp/ft.

[@sharpshooter7127]

@@ubu760 Ok thank you for the info.

[@muscletractorfan2441]

Interesting to see this disc. That thing can cover some ground.

[@bigtractorpower]

It is built for speed.

[@JohnDeere8370r]

Is that an air deflation system on the tractor

[@bigtractorpower]

Yes each tire has a gauge built in.

[@Parents_of_Twins]

So the 40 foot model must be working that 620hp tractor pretty hard. Guess you almost need one of 700+hp Big Buds to truly get that bad boy a serious workout.

[@davidmoore6167]

I love that. Quote. Made by a company overseas.lol

[@johndeereman65279]

Is that Garrett farms . Are they replacing the disk?

[@bigtractorpower]

Yes. They tried out the Pro-Till on this field. Allot of farms here treat out a machine on limited acres and judge it after the following harvest.

[@andrewwerle899]

BTP, does the 9RX ride smoother than the rival 4 track tractors?

[@bigtractorpower]

Triples do run smoothly. Much smoother than metric sized duals. They turn smoother on headland than a 9RX. Tracks will pull faster than tires.

[@andrewwerle899]

bigtractorpower, but does the John Deere Quad track ride smoother than the case or versatile, because a bunch of people in Saskatchewan are switching their cases for deeres

[@pointbreak9850]

Awesome video 👍. 9620R when you need to get the job done quickly and effectively.🚜🇺🇸🚜

[@bigtractorpower]

Thank you for watching.

[@loisgustafson4522]

How deep does the frost go in this part of the U.S.? Ron

[@bigtractorpower]

No very deep. The ground rarely freezes for more than a day or two. Some years I can mow my lawn 12 months a year.

[@jhuck8166]

I guess my ProTill question on the Wishek disk video was timely. (;

[@bigtractorpower]

Yes it was. You never know what I might be filming. 👍

[@nickkercheval2704]

Sim a JD guy but I’d like to see a quadtrack hooked to this

[@bigtractorpower]

It would be neat to see a Quadtrac with a Pro-Till.

[@wesleyhofer3141]

Im running one

[@kreed1004]

@@wesleyhofer3141 let's see it!

[@strangerdanger1271]

In my experience more speed always equals much more wear and tear.

[@matrix6241]

We're hitting a limit as to how wide we can get so the next step is to up the working speed.

[@MMID303]

Hey BTP I saw a Claas Xerion with a mower traveling down the road today. It was so bizzare looking. The cab was rotated around. No idea who it belongs to. Was seen near Shippensburg Pa off Rt.11

[@bigtractorpower]

Neat sighting. The Xerion can run frontward and backward. I would like to film one mowing like that.

[@grandpajim329]

👍 What is "Ballpark" cost of this machine....???? Will it eliminate chisel plowing??? NICE UPDATE ..😎 😍😍😍😍😍

[@bigtractorpower]

The 26ft will run $130,000 list. I have a video on the way this weekend featuring a Pro Till 26.

[@robertnaberhaus5319]

What happens to the blades when you hit a big rock @ ten miles per hour??

[@bigtractorpower]

The blades are independent so they roll over the rock or obstruction.

[@robbass1521]

At least with independent disks you don't break the whole gang been there done that CT rocks would love to break this rig

[@andrewwerle899]

How much does those 9620r s cost in Canadian dollars.

[@bigtractorpower]

Deere.com should have that info. I am not sure. It’s the biggest tractor John Deere offers so it will be $$$.

[@scruffy6151]

Thank you BTP. I would not like to be the one that has to change a broken disk not alot of room to work on them.

[@bigtractorpower]

The Pro-Till lifts up pretty high and each disk is separate so they just pop off. Most disks have a 7 to 12 inch spacing between blades.

[@daddio7249]

@@bigtractorpower They are not stacked on a long axel?

[@v3124]

Scruffy prefect punctuation!

[@justincase2830]

I wonder how the blades take stony and rocky ground.

[@bigtractorpower]

They do a good job. I tried to show that with the clip of the stone in the video where the disk cruises over it. Each of the blades is mounted separately so when they encounter rock just that blade, pops up and rolls over the stone and then reengage the ground you don’t have something like an entire axle were all the blades, pop up and jab back down the soil.

[@justincase2830]

thanks!

[@wilsonandrade2220]

👍👍👍

[@bigtractorpower]

👍😀

[@wesleyhofer3141]

Is that the fastest that u can go with that protill

[@bigtractorpower]

10 mph is the recommend speed for the best results.

[@wesleyhofer3141]

bigtractorpower ok my book just says for best results go 10 to 12 i find 11 works very good one more question wat about putting ridged disks on the back too?

[@bigtractorpower]

I am not sure on the Ridged disk. That would be a good question for Degelman if that type of set up would work well.

[@jackwilliams8786]

One of the disc ain't turning in the beginning

[@jackwilliams8786]

0:24

[@remi.3920]

👍👍👍😉

[@curtweatherbee2523]

👍🏻🇺🇸

[@hanaareacaroline7428]

maquinario ta ai bruto 💪💪💪✌

[@20RM02]

Is this better than the European Horsch Joker?

[@bigtractorpower]

I have not had a chance to film a Joker. From what i read about them they are a good tillage tool. A key difference I have seen between a Joker and Pro-Till is the Joker can not work wet soil. You can see in this video the Pro-Till can blast through a muddy spot to help dry it out and keep rolling. I saw a Joker in New York that was parked that had tried to work a wet spot and it was completely plugged with mud.

[@20RM02]

bigtractorpower Would you consider visiting Europe and make some farming videos there?Sorry for my english,and thanks for replying.

[@bigtractorpower]

I would like to do that. I enjoy seeing European farming on KZbin. It is just a matter of time to make a big trip.

[@brianbolton9389]

My question is why three tires, why don't you just put on a set of 50inches floating wheels. Want it be cheaper.

[@GunsmithLC]

Fine - as long as there's no rocks... 10 mph + basketball-sized or more rock and you'll be doing a LOT of blade changing..

[@bigtractorpower]

I tried to show in the video this disk can handle rocks because each blade is mounted independently and it can flex over a stone.

[@noahhill1377]

What is the point of having 12 tires on the tractor?

[@markgroth4380]

More traction and less compaction.

[@loganjohnson4584]

620 horse spins 8 tires pretty quick

[@bigtractorpower]

More traction, less compaction and smaller tire repair and replacement cost.

[@albertusmostert5418]

So it's more aggressive than a vt

[@bigtractorpower]

Yes it can be set to be more aggressive than a VT or to run light on the surface like a VT in the spring.

[@littlerougue]

Triples!!!!!!! that is all

[@bigtractorpower]

Plenty of traction.

[@bobsmith1814]

It definitely turns the soil over. The tractor wasn’t even wheezing as pulled the plow.

[@bigtractorpower]

It was moving right along.

[@blaneupshaw2152]

I figure you'd spend more time working on it then ploughing

[@genechronister7085]

Cheaper than a deere?

[@bigtractorpower]

I am not sure on prices. Deere’s high speed is built by Norwood. The Degelman is built heavier.

[@oldben1800]

yeup. thats how everyone should till. 1 pass

[@wagonerjared]

High speed is fine, but not too many fields are smooth enough on first pass to be able to roll that fast without throwing you out of the seat.

[@karennagy1360]

where is this thing manufactured

[@bigtractorpower]

They are built in Regina, Saskatchewan. Kinze is also building the Pro-Till for Degelman in Williamsburg, Iowa.

[@sunsetviewfarms9529]

I have gotten permission for you to come out and film, if I could get you’re email again, we could work something out.

[@bigtractorpower]

My email is [e-mail]

[@sunsetviewfarms9529]

bigtractorpower thank you sir

[@bigtractorpower]

Thank you.

[@tduffysd]

vertical tillage is the best way to destroy your yields and cause a bunch of compaction

[@bigtractorpower]

Going from corn to wheat they like to leave the field firmer for the sprayers and harvest. Then soybeans go in right after wheat. When the beans are cut they subsoil the field 18 inches deep. The Pro-Till is not vertical tillage. It is just a disk that moves fast.

[@tduffysd]

which is exactly vertical tillage.

[@hottlimited]

Maintenance free , lol !!

[@lfeco]

That's funny

[@juliotsuquiashi6352]

Muy encima solo rueda la rastra, debería de ser más profundo para tener mejores resultados

[@scoopyall2996]

Rocky land anyone

[@bigtractorpower]

The Pro-Till is built well to handle stones. Each blade is individual so they flex over rocks.

[@chrisbghfinc.5445]

No problems on rocky soil. But if you see a large rock sitting 12" on top of the ground I'd probably either pick the rock or go around it.

[@michamatthias]

JOHN DEERE IS THE BEST !!!

[@bigtractorpower]

👍

[@mackowen9337]

Why go so fast?

[@terrellfarms1]

@@starks1414 Acres/hr! Also you can cover twice the amount of acres. Standard disk at 5 mph verse high speed disk at 10 mph.

[@southlakelife]

It's all about soil flow with that machine.

[@bigtractorpower]

As others said the disk is designed to move fast to make a good seed bed and if rain is the forecast and you want to get the stalks plowed and field seeded it good to get more acres worked.

[@ronmcgill1522]

Because he's got a hundred thousand acres a plant

[@murraytownsing5662]

12 tires more traction

[@bigtractorpower]

More traction, less compaction and smaller tire repair and replacement cost.

[@teresamiserendino1793]

if someone has enough money to buy all this equipment, you have enough money to retire

[@bigtractorpower]

This farm has been farming since the 1800’s. It supports several families. The big equipment makes sure the crops are planted and harvested on time.