Bike Messenger Austin Horse - Streets & Avenues - Ep 2

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Austin Horse travels the streets as one of the premier bicycle messengers of New York City, a logistical institution only possible in the tight street grids of Manhattan.
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This urban environment full of pedestrians, cars and everyday traffic is an algorithm that Austin has perfected over the years. Austin Horse is a bike messenger 7 racer who started his career as a messenger in New York City back in 2005.
Bicycle messengers are people who work for companies carrying and delivering items by bicycle. Since bicycle travel is less subject to unexpected holdups in city traffic jams, and is not deterred by parking limitations, fees or fines in high density development that can hinder or prevent delivery by motor vehicle, it a method that offers a predictable delivery time.
From BMX riders and skaters to graffiti artists and club promoters, Streets & Avenues takes you behind the curtain of The Empire State through seven mini documentaries. Streets & Avenues is an original series following the glamour and grittiness that is New York City.
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@SmoothJohnson
@SmoothJohnson 9 жыл бұрын
as a city bus driver (with a background in firefighting, nursing, truck and taxi driving) and a longtime bike commuter, I deeply appreciate the skill set on display here. Using a soft visual focus over a wide field to calculate anticipated flow movements in heavy urban traffic is a phenomenal skill set...combine that with expert local navigational knowledge and tremendous fitness and riding skill and you have something very special on display. Awesome to see it recognized for what it is.
@KappaPappaInSync
@KappaPappaInSync 7 жыл бұрын
okay......................
@HeyJoeHUN81-PCRPGCommunity
@HeyJoeHUN81-PCRPGCommunity 7 жыл бұрын
Also we seen big luck here, so he wasn't hit by a car door, didn't hit a walker (03:29) or who just left his parked car (03:30) & so on. Nobody tell me he can see what can the future will bring it to him. He can't be sure about these walkers for example not changing their direction of their movement suddenly just exactly in the same time when he arrive behind them on his bike... For example the walker accidentally dropped sg & just turn back for that or forget sg in the parked car & turn back for that... This guy is good yeah, but also lucky if not injured seriously until now. But at least he is wear helmet & having some break on his bike but I'm still don't think his riding style is really cool, especially in a busy city such as NY.
@livingthroughtv
@livingthroughtv 6 жыл бұрын
Well, technically [if he were a real person], he wouldn't be an employee of the messenger service anyway. The job [courier] attracts people of different, sometimes difficult, backgrounds because of less than usual schedule, pay and employment terms. As it happens, I suggest that you yourself are probably Kinto, if anyone.
@thermodynamics1110
@thermodynamics1110 6 жыл бұрын
LOL, "phenomenal skills" haHaa
@shapitFS
@shapitFS 6 жыл бұрын
G
@aldrinclementina4297
@aldrinclementina4297 5 жыл бұрын
I'm a rider. former competitor. I'm not a messenger but I love watching these type of videos. I drive everyday to work or to courses I have to attend. But because of you.. guys like this one, made me build a single speed commuter from what I had sitting in the storage room. For just use to ride in between short distances and little by little to expand the km's to longer ones. It brings me back to my younger years. besides it's more healthier to ride a bike than sitting in a car. Thnkx for giving me that push and encouragement again. Blessings
@jokerseriously514
@jokerseriously514 4 жыл бұрын
I really miss the rush of this job! Winter or summer, I was in great shape and enjoyed life. I couriered in Edmonton for 5 years and was in the national championships and the worlds! Had an absolute blast being in traffic and surfing the flow...truly a unique experience!!
@brunomoreira5014
@brunomoreira5014 4 жыл бұрын
I worked for around a year in my city in Brazil. It's a nice thing to do. You can keep fit and healthy and free, but honestly, the money you make dont pay off. Sometimes the costs you have with your bike is higher than what you earn in one week. The mininmum per delivery is 6,00 reais which converted into dollars is 1,41 USD. It's been hard to be a young brazilian without even a bit of family's support.
@proudtobeautistic
@proudtobeautistic Жыл бұрын
Just curious what made you decide to give it up?
@IdeaBoxful
@IdeaBoxful 3 жыл бұрын
Watching this in pandemic times, more biking is better. Better health and beat the lockdown blues at the same time!
@barrie0211
@barrie0211 11 жыл бұрын
Did this in 85 to 1990. In Edmonton Alberta with snow and cold for four months.Quick Silver.Still crushing it.
@xXhunter47Xx
@xXhunter47Xx 10 жыл бұрын
Hey that's the stunt double for Gordon-Levitt in Premium Rush.
@dervonnebenan8232
@dervonnebenan8232 9 жыл бұрын
xXhunter47Xx you dont say
@dervonnebenan8232
@dervonnebenan8232 9 жыл бұрын
+Predator what ?
@MushroomPredator
@MushroomPredator 9 жыл бұрын
Der Von Nebenan ich dachte mir, ich begrüße einen deutschen landsmann auch mit einem deutschen gruß!
@MushroomPredator
@MushroomPredator 9 жыл бұрын
sorry
@dervonnebenan8232
@dervonnebenan8232 9 жыл бұрын
***** mach das nicht...Das wirft wieder nur ein schlechtes Licht auf uns deutsche 😫
@JBF086
@JBF086 7 жыл бұрын
Is really impresive what this guys do and is a job that atracts me so much but not many people is capable of doing it.
@abdullahsawai505
@abdullahsawai505 7 жыл бұрын
I've been a truck driver for 8 years, it's been my bread and butter. one thing I always told myself is that I would buy a bike to ride while out in different places like Vagas, Cali, Colorado, Utah, Wyoming, wherever a good ride could be experienced. I never bought a bike though because my uncle who's a big rider told me I needed some expensive ass bike like his in order to really enjoy the ride. I said fuck that, his bike is like 4k or some shit. Anyway, due to some straight up b.s. I can drive any longer. I bought a $220.00 schwinn from Academy that I absolutely love It. it seems like the perfect beginner bike. I now think that I'll ride as long as my limbs allow.
@Kleyguy7
@Kleyguy7 5 жыл бұрын
Those guys who think you need expensive bike to enjoy the ride are the worst. See the messenger in this video - steel frame, aluminium rims, thin wheels. Thats all you need. I think carbon bike takes the fun away because you are too afraid to break it.
@elipedraza1222
@elipedraza1222 4 жыл бұрын
hell yeah! ride on
@johnsc14
@johnsc14 4 жыл бұрын
I ride a 1972 Schwinn super sport that I fixed up.... I love it.
@abdullahsawai505
@abdullahsawai505 4 жыл бұрын
About a year and a half back I grabbed a Diamond Back that retails a little over $1000 but even that I had built from the frame at my local bike shop, I paid around $3-400 for it and I use it everyday especially since I moved from Texas to Philly it’s a bike city.
@FUYouTubeCensors
@FUYouTubeCensors 4 жыл бұрын
Lol you got a DUI
@Quill13
@Quill13 2 жыл бұрын
I love how Redbull reviews and Documents every sports😋
@Memo12Delarge
@Memo12Delarge 4 жыл бұрын
Finally a responsable fixie guy with at least a front brake! Nice! Isn't that saddle to low?
@l1amreece619
@l1amreece619 3 жыл бұрын
That takes the thrill away
@callumjefferies6085
@callumjefferies6085 3 жыл бұрын
No, it's no too low, This guy is on a bike more than anyone His fit would be perfect
@Kiddowesth
@Kiddowesth 3 жыл бұрын
For this type of riding you have a bit more control with this setup. More quad dominant as well.
@callumjefferies6085
@callumjefferies6085 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kiddowesth not true, Bike fit shouldn't change regardless of the style. With obviously exceptions such as TT,MTB and road
@Kiddowesth
@Kiddowesth 3 жыл бұрын
@@callumjefferies6085 When forced to press both ways, it does help.
@LaCourierInCrysis
@LaCourierInCrysis 2 жыл бұрын
Love this I'm addicted haven't had a day off in 7 months. I need to learn to take a vacation without working
@SebSar-ef4zj
@SebSar-ef4zj 2 жыл бұрын
From what I see you seem to ride skillfully and care for pedestrians , so it's thumbs up from me.
@Carlos-dq8wo
@Carlos-dq8wo Жыл бұрын
Inspiration to start this beautiful work... I watch this video often and who better than Austin, a great cyclist but a better person.
@johnorellana9864
@johnorellana9864 5 ай бұрын
My salute to all Mike messengers for a job well done. 😊
@randomizationme
@randomizationme 10 жыл бұрын
I wish bike messengers exist everywhere
@aidanshmaden69
@aidanshmaden69 10 жыл бұрын
they do
@randomizationme
@randomizationme 10 жыл бұрын
I mean not only in new york but in other states as well :) Aidan niplome
@randomizationme
@randomizationme 10 жыл бұрын
That is so cool! :D I could totally get that as a side job:)
@bbglas007
@bbglas007 10 жыл бұрын
randomizationme everyone wants to be one, noone wants to pay one
@literallyanythingelseother
@literallyanythingelseother 9 жыл бұрын
I would love to do it but I'm a engineering family and being a bike messenger doesn't pay shit haha
@johnnytheratface
@johnnytheratface 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve been trying to explain how much fun riding my bike in city is and this is exactly why
@steve00alt70
@steve00alt70 4 жыл бұрын
do you use google maps on your phone to navigate thru your city on your bike?
@timelessadventurer
@timelessadventurer 5 жыл бұрын
Everyone in this mini doc spoke so eloquently! Great job!
@selfactualizer2099
@selfactualizer2099 Жыл бұрын
this is something ive always naturally loved doing regardless of where i am in life since i was little, skateboards, bikes, rollerblades, free skates, Doing things like trail riding, downhilling, city riding, challenging myself, giggling when i have near accidents or getting away with something risky I wish i was born sooner, here in atlanta courier services are about dead. he's right about the flow of traffic, you can learn to anticipate what drivers will do, though youll still have accidents as you progress. safety is first priority, even when we know what we do is dangerous. but sports will always remain as part of human needs. trees cant grow without the wind to build them strong
@temobarata6741
@temobarata6741 5 жыл бұрын
I am a messenger in Wien(Austria) so here is heaven for bikers
@phlufff_fxd
@phlufff_fxd 11 ай бұрын
Beautiful to see it from your perspective
@sleepyzebra11
@sleepyzebra11 5 жыл бұрын
Super cool to hear his bike return story, hes always posting on ig about stolen bikes to lookout for
@Londoncab
@Londoncab 4 жыл бұрын
Fascinating. great skill and finesse
@Squadron007
@Squadron007 8 жыл бұрын
"Single speed is all I need"
8 жыл бұрын
+Julien Cheung Actually, it is a fixie.
@Squadron007
@Squadron007 8 жыл бұрын
+Carlos Calla Alarcón I Didn't ask anything
@onespeedbicycles
@onespeedbicycles 7 жыл бұрын
Cote DeP0rc one speed single speed they are all one speed hehehehe.
@SiklistaRepublika1987
@SiklistaRepublika1987 5 жыл бұрын
i know fixie is a single speed, but what is the difference between fixie and bmx?
@sq3527
@sq3527 5 жыл бұрын
@@SiklistaRepublika1987, the difference is that bmx is for kids that like jumping.
@adamblair9342
@adamblair9342 10 жыл бұрын
Awesome. I hope to become a bike messenger someday. Sounds like the best job someone can get.
@collinblair2815
@collinblair2815 10 жыл бұрын
Shame it's a high stakes-low pay type of job.
@nellynelson965
@nellynelson965 10 жыл бұрын
Collin Blair your not wrong, working at McDonalds pay's better and thats saying something
@kevinmaldonado77
@kevinmaldonado77 10 жыл бұрын
:o
@kevinmaldonado77
@kevinmaldonado77 10 жыл бұрын
Collin Blair :O
@WorldStarUK3
@WorldStarUK3 10 жыл бұрын
***** Lies
@MrPijus123
@MrPijus123 5 жыл бұрын
Been riding in urban areas since I was a little kid. Neber realized that being able to read a city's movements is a celebrated skill.
@copali
@copali 3 жыл бұрын
Austin Horse with Alfred Bobè Jr and Chrys Thormann is my favorite
@kyrielucero3845
@kyrielucero3845 8 жыл бұрын
Great fun job ! There pay is trash though you really need the phrase "time is money" in this job !
@occidentalexplorer1125
@occidentalexplorer1125 4 жыл бұрын
Not necessarily true! I work for a bike messenger company here in San Francisco and I get paid between $200 and $400 a day at $3 per delivery up to 140 deliveries on average per day and ride about 60 miles a day. There are only about 6 bikers at the company I work for. There are about 100 bike messengers give or take in SF not including the food delivery Uber eats crowd. The 94 or so bike messengers who do not work at my company are hurting on money!
@RustedBeef
@RustedBeef 5 ай бұрын
​@@occidentalexplorer1125No way.... That's a huge amount of money
@albin2232
@albin2232 3 жыл бұрын
Very skilful and SAFE road users.
@TenTegens
@TenTegens 10 жыл бұрын
cudowny filmik
@QuinnHartmann
@QuinnHartmann 4 жыл бұрын
basically a crown vic documentary
@numbaoneg101
@numbaoneg101 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂 All the cabs right?
@kalijasin
@kalijasin Жыл бұрын
Best job in world.
@julianguerra6974
@julianguerra6974 5 жыл бұрын
what an awesome video! whoever edited this... great freaking job!!
@julianb1550
@julianb1550 4 жыл бұрын
I thought this was how all people rode bikes, anticipation, and never give anyone the benefit of the doubt.
@walexander1997
@walexander1997 11 жыл бұрын
Finally some fixed gear riding on RedBull!
@danildanilov1118
@danildanilov1118 3 жыл бұрын
can you imagine you have cycle for money in New York for money? Awesome!!!
@shreddersaurusrex323
@shreddersaurusrex323 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s fun but it doesn’t pay well and the weather can be brutal. There’s other annoying parts of the job too.
@Pumpeduse
@Pumpeduse 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic !!!!!!
@redbull
@redbull 4 жыл бұрын
Many thanks!!
@user-it8gk3ke7h
@user-it8gk3ke7h 4 жыл бұрын
seems like fun job, he should start a youtube video with his daily biking content.
@philipparris4287
@philipparris4287 Жыл бұрын
The meaning of life!
@siscoismyhomey
@siscoismyhomey 11 жыл бұрын
Rosko makes some of the nicest frames, handmade for the win
@georgegilles9008
@georgegilles9008 8 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a fun job.
@orangutank626
@orangutank626 4 жыл бұрын
Did you do it?
@_johnwayne_
@_johnwayne_ 3 жыл бұрын
@Uldis Poriķis my first day was on a rainy winter day, it was definitely the ice breaker, but not all that bad if you have good clothing on you ;) Oh and a good bike as well
@luckylifeonwheels626
@luckylifeonwheels626 4 жыл бұрын
I completely agree with what you sade in the city a bicycle is the best way to get around.
@LoneWolfRedd
@LoneWolfRedd 4 жыл бұрын
this is my 2nd week biking as a beginner my style has picked up quick idk maybe its my good eye but i can read cars movements learned how to skid and avoid collisions on my own kinda like surfing avoiding pot holes and bunny hopping over them i love riding my bike i come from the world of MIXED MARTIAL ARTS...
@alexdamtberyoutube3591
@alexdamtberyoutube3591 3 жыл бұрын
I think I found my dream job
@ShermanSitter
@ShermanSitter 6 жыл бұрын
I've done the "surfing" move too...but i don't like to surf when I don't have to. :)
@semmtexx
@semmtexx 4 жыл бұрын
I always wonder how these guys cope with riding hard in extreme heat. Must be tough. Walking into an office completely drenched in sweat.
@RustedBeef
@RustedBeef 5 ай бұрын
Wool or some other moisture wicking fabric helps keep you from staying wet
@jeffreysalvador7076
@jeffreysalvador7076 6 жыл бұрын
Road my bmx bike across the Brooklyn bridge all the way up to central park and back again just cruising. Feels good riding the NYC streets especially time square.
@CANControlGRAFFITI
@CANControlGRAFFITI 11 жыл бұрын
I ride around the city doing sketchy maneuvers all the time, REDBULL HOOK ME UP!
@CONFUCIUS-f2x
@CONFUCIUS-f2x Жыл бұрын
That's got to be at least a 500mm handlebar.
@dagthewog6290
@dagthewog6290 5 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Actually peaceful and not hurting anyone. All the best to you.
@stankyst4nk39
@stankyst4nk39 8 жыл бұрын
Man... what type of bag does he have?? Thing's sick!
@kenjillewellyn6745
@kenjillewellyn6745 8 жыл бұрын
He's using a reload bag he got when he won the monster track
@jayse4em
@jayse4em 11 жыл бұрын
I love riding my bike and doing the same as this guy.
@kcdiazWTV
@kcdiazWTV 2 жыл бұрын
I wish I can do this in California.
@MrBraceyface
@MrBraceyface 11 жыл бұрын
The coolest job ever
@the_feature_selector859
@the_feature_selector859 5 жыл бұрын
I love how he said the cab made an illegal turn. Like he follows the rules if the road.
@kyaneclarinal6697
@kyaneclarinal6697 3 жыл бұрын
“ can’t stop , don’t want to either “
@vince6518
@vince6518 Жыл бұрын
Dope 🔥🔥🔥
@tamnado
@tamnado 3 ай бұрын
RIP young man
@cendol987
@cendol987 3 жыл бұрын
now this is some really safe and responsible bike messenger not like the overexaggerated depiction in premium rush. Yeah, riding brakeless is fun but to what extend?
@trapitolhill2025
@trapitolhill2025 3 жыл бұрын
wrong
@edabad4324
@edabad4324 4 жыл бұрын
They are amazing
@96shian
@96shian 11 жыл бұрын
ouuu its a job very exciting...for a HIPSTER
@ARNOUX17
@ARNOUX17 3 жыл бұрын
easy work i'll do it while listening to my music
@szilviabriceno8161
@szilviabriceno8161 5 жыл бұрын
One of the cooler jobs as a 9-5 i would do it for sure
@newyardleysinclair9960
@newyardleysinclair9960 5 жыл бұрын
Bike Messengers need an eye for anticipation of movement and/or openings in a similar way a a NFL running back does
@Blueveteran342
@Blueveteran342 11 жыл бұрын
very nice episode
@alfainc5868
@alfainc5868 5 жыл бұрын
Can't tell anyone or hipsters how to live but there is no money in this. Facts
@Alex-Defatte
@Alex-Defatte Жыл бұрын
My only issue with something like this is the amount of exhaust you're going to be breathing in as you are inhaling the hardest you will all day and you're just breathing in all that carbon monoxide.
@mohitgodwal9056
@mohitgodwal9056 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing
@andriansyahaja5916
@andriansyahaja5916 4 жыл бұрын
you the rush man
@joejoemaru
@joejoemaru 11 жыл бұрын
Love this series
@evilcat1662
@evilcat1662 10 жыл бұрын
i love this job
@山口貴広-d5o
@山口貴広-d5o 2 жыл бұрын
かっこいい!
@ecoskate159
@ecoskate159 11 жыл бұрын
ohhh how love you gangsta track
@acyutanandadas1326
@acyutanandadas1326 5 жыл бұрын
Bike messengers who deliver vital documents should be bonded and protected.
@BrianMcNay
@BrianMcNay 7 жыл бұрын
Do an episode of this during the winter. Wonder how much gets done?
@boogieeweb3
@boogieeweb3 5 жыл бұрын
got through a storm yesterday ! brutal but rewarding once you get home
@mjlife4602
@mjlife4602 10 жыл бұрын
I want a job like that
@ihope7085
@ihope7085 4 жыл бұрын
salut ...god bless
@kojishibata2143
@kojishibata2143 11 жыл бұрын
Very Nice Video. I Like Austin.
@nolanjohnson2009
@nolanjohnson2009 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing down riding down 5th avenue.
@yantoblank5370
@yantoblank5370 2 жыл бұрын
Good👍
@oncheurmasque
@oncheurmasque 11 жыл бұрын
I think it depends on the country, the city and even the company, but I can't tell you that in France it's pretty low (I have a friend that works as a bike messenger in Strasbourg), although the company pays for new spare parts for your bike so it's still pretty cool.
@suicycleed4748
@suicycleed4748 6 жыл бұрын
Best courier NYC
@jammingridena
@jammingridena 4 жыл бұрын
THE REAL PREMIUM RUSH MAN🚴🚴🚴😬
@NickolasRed
@NickolasRed 11 жыл бұрын
pretty nice video.definitely liked
@officer088
@officer088 5 жыл бұрын
much love!
@fujo_kim
@fujo_kim 4 жыл бұрын
Cool
@adiprasongko7701
@adiprasongko7701 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Guyz, my name Adi Prasongko. Thx's *GOOD LUCK FOREVER*
@Cheifnhookah
@Cheifnhookah 9 жыл бұрын
pretty much like street racing.. lol 4:02
@puteraizzadmohammadirwaz1959
@puteraizzadmohammadirwaz1959 9 жыл бұрын
ride is my life
@Soapboxview
@Soapboxview 9 жыл бұрын
Nice.
@yaoiyurifanbaka
@yaoiyurifanbaka 11 жыл бұрын
He probably has a brake for an insurance issue like the courier service I work for. You're not a messenger so you don't know what we go through. Do your thing Austin
@cycling_walking
@cycling_walking Жыл бұрын
Aku suka
@keithwashco5891
@keithwashco5891 11 жыл бұрын
are you sponsored by RED BULL??????-super cool if so-cool anyway
@Quill13
@Quill13 2 жыл бұрын
8 years ago?... We already have internet back then right?
@shreddersaurusrex323
@shreddersaurusrex323 2 жыл бұрын
Yes but there are so many things that need to get delivered. Clothing, medication, food, legal documents, etc.
@J9V2
@J9V2 11 жыл бұрын
Wordsmith - As the Art Fades Away
@Cosminnic
@Cosminnic 11 жыл бұрын
Premium Rush :)
@Dropthebeatonit
@Dropthebeatonit 4 жыл бұрын
this is coooool, altho isn't his bike seat too low?
@pacovl46
@pacovl46 5 жыл бұрын
So what are you guys gonna do in winter? Put tires with spikes on your bikes?
@jeppep95
@jeppep95 5 жыл бұрын
In sweden we have "dubb-tires" winter tires with small spikes
@pacovl46
@pacovl46 5 жыл бұрын
jeppep95 that’s cool! Are they expensive?
@jeppep95
@jeppep95 5 жыл бұрын
@@pacovl46 they start at about 50 dollars
@numbaoneg101
@numbaoneg101 4 жыл бұрын
Some ppl have diff bikes for inclement weather. Ppl use 23 mm-28 mm tires and get by just fine even in the snow.
@AlessandroCardano
@AlessandroCardano 5 жыл бұрын
Respect. >One Love< -A
@numbaoneg101
@numbaoneg101 9 жыл бұрын
that accident sounds crazy, I wonder how bad injuries were/how long it took to recover
@myfrequencies1912
@myfrequencies1912 5 жыл бұрын
Been watching a bunch of these videos now. I get the appeal of the fixie - simplicity, lightweight, low maintenance - But where are the brakes?! I've seen one or two riders scrub off speed by placing the sole of their shoe on the back tyre but I've also heard it suggested that it's pretty common in the US at least to have some sort of rear hub internal brake that activates when you back pedal. NONE of these guys seem to have conventional rim brakes or even a two speed drive train!
@Pikminarecool
@Pikminarecool 5 жыл бұрын
My Frequencies recommended to have afront brake, the nature of a fixed gear is that the pedals are fixed to the rear wheel so to slow down you resist the pedal movement
@numbaoneg101
@numbaoneg101 5 жыл бұрын
Some use a front brake, v brake or road caliper, I've even seen a disc brake on a fixed gear. Others ride brakeless but it's very risky.
@tranzco1173
@tranzco1173 4 жыл бұрын
I rode for Western Messenger in SF on a fixed gear with no brake in 1999-2000. You backpedal, you can even life the rear wheel a little off the ground almost immediately stop it. It's more responsive that most brakes. However, I was a much younger man then, and wouldn't even messenger now, much less on a fixed gear, because of the whole mortality thing.
@myfrequencies1912
@myfrequencies1912 4 жыл бұрын
@@tranzco1173 No brakes in SF with those steep hills?! You must've been crazy.... I've got 4 piston hydraulics on my MTB now. Minimum standard when it's loaded for camping.
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