It's time to take the Chinese motorcycle industry seriously.

[@whatsstefon]

What a cracking bike. Great video you two. If they fix the fuelling, it’s a near perfect bike. Had a tonne of fun getting it a tiny bit sideways around corners. It’s a naughty bike.

[@BikerTorque]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@bullymac68]

Yes to the Himalayan comparison and yes to TSITFP (needs a better acronym)!

[@BikerTorque]

Lol, I think you are right, need to work on that acronym

[@baumie4618]

Absolutely! My only concern would be longevity and quality issues. 👍

[@BikerTorque]

Hey Jamie, I can understand the concern with longevity, but they have been making a 500 version of this bike for a while without any major issues. Quality wise it’s fine, it’s no BMW or Ducati but certainly on par with other similar offerings.

[@deniseroberts6908]

I think there are many bmw and Ducati owners that would have a few words to say about reliability. I’ve had both and they’ve both had issues

[@hachewie]

I just put on my Biker Torque T-shirt and looked at KZbin..... BAM> Video. Awesome.

[@BikerTorque]

Just like magic

[@ADSCoachSimonB2112]

The Benny Cappuccino 800 Trail is a Retro Scrambler Kind of deal (60 Road/40% light off-road) , so Ducati Scrambler kind of thing, The Enfield is kind of an foot in a few different camps, but I feel the Enfield is more (50 Road/50% Light to medium) its also built to take more hits (dropping) the CF Moto 450MT (50 Road/50 Adventure Touring) The general rule for anything off road is weight. This is why the general engine size is 300-450 & your ability to pick up the bike, or change a tyre. I really like the Benny Cap 800 trail, but I am also riding a Harley Iron 800 2017 (V&H Exhaust) I understand the issue with the cool exhaust can be rectified by replacing the hidden pipes and cat, leaving the stock slip on section. I feel this would make an amazing touring and light traveller.

[@BikerTorque]

The Leoncino Trail is an awesome bike

[@maxharris6012]

Comparison with the himmy would be interesting to see! I used to have a Himalayan and ended up selling for a Benelli TRK502x. Unfortunately there were just too many little niggly issues with mine, and using it as a daily was becoming difficult so it had to go. in Addition, my friend also had/has a Himalayan that recently decided to blow it's piston rings, taking most of the head components with it at a little over 10,000km. I do still miss the 21 inch front, or that deep Enfield thump sound from time to time. At about 7000km on the Benelli now, with zero problems to report. If it keeps that up then I may consider another Benelli heavily when looking for another bike to add to the stable.

[@BikerTorque]

Thanks for your comprehensive insight. I’d love to try the Trk502 one day as I’m not really familiar with all of the Benelli models. We have just actually filmed a comparison of sorts, should be up on the channel in a month or so

[@ThrottleDownunder]

Great video, I love seeing Big Stef pop up in there too

[@BikerTorque]

Cheers Rob, thanks for watching, always a fun day when Big Stef is around

[@23DuDe]

Rather than comparing apples and oranges, why not compare the Benelli with a CFMoto 800MT

[@BikerTorque]

Good point, but haven’t got access to the CF Moto at this stage

[@my2cents395]

I had 2 MX bikes with Marzocchi 50mm forks and they were forking great. After break-in tune them to your liking by changing fork oil viscosity. Please use a premium brand oil. This is a great way to improve your bike.

[@BikerTorque]

Good tip, thanks for watching

[@speedfinder1]

Thanks for posting, I'm really enjoying the interaction between you two presenters. As a 50 something man, it's nice to have some input from a younger persons perspective on these bikes too. Keep 'em coming! Oh, BTW see if you can get a ride on an Aprilia 660 Tuareg to add to your comparison of off road motorcycles. I think you will be shocked! (I have one and will most likely never sell it!)

[@BikerTorque]

We are hoping to get a Tuareg 660 very soon for review so watch this space. I loved the a Tuono 660 so no doubt will be impressed by the Tuareg. Thanks for watching and glad you enjoy the content

[@speedfinder1]

@@BikerTorque BE VERY SURE you get a Tuareg 660 that has had the ECU remap post September 2022. The difference in the light throttle openings as slow speeds and constant lower speed cruising (Light throttle openings again.) is like night and day! 👍👍.

[@BikerTorque]

@@speedfinder1 I’ll check when Aprilia send it to us.

[@raimee81]

Why is this bike not available in my country?? I'm a new rider starting on a used Leoncino 500. I don't think they even brought the trail version. Nonetheless, very happy with the bike. Maybe I would not have gone with 800cc to start but I wish I wasn't denied the option to upgrade later!

[@BikerTorque]

Not sure, where are you from?

[@kevindarkstar]

Him-a-layan it just can't be him-ar-lyan otherwise that's what the bloody mountains would be called, and they are not 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@BikerTorque]

Lol, it’s a bit of a running joke we have going on the channel. Great for getting comments. Thanks for watching

[@hachewie]

Stef to the rescue. Awesome.

[@BikerTorque]

Absolutely

[@whatsstefon]

It’s the only right thing to do after everyone else saving my arse in Armidale.

[@nathantaylor120]

Hima-layan ! 🤣

[@BikerTorque]

😂😂😂

[@RoadsOfOz]

Looking forward to doing those dirt roads to St Albans. Don’t think it would be a fair comparison up against the GS. But a great shoot out would be with the Himalayan scram 411, Fantic Caballero and CFMOTO 700 ClX Adventure.

[@BikerTorque]

I saw one of those Fantics the other day, they look pretty good. Thanks for watching Matty, might have to join you when you take the GS up there.

[@DaneSmile]

I have seen this bike at my local dealership, I would like to know what sort of luggage carrying capacity it has? The tail seems short and lacks pillion passenger handles, which can double as strapping points for an overnight duffel. The previous lioncino 500 did this well I feel. Has anyone tried to carry luggage on this new lioncino 800?

[@BikerTorque]

Not sure, we didn’t get a chance to carry luggage with it

[@po_Himmy411]

Yes to the comparison pls!

[@BikerTorque]

Ok, will see. If we can make it happen

[@RKmndo]

I'd like to see a comparison between the Leoncino Trail 800, the Triumph Street Scrambler, and the Yamaha XSR700.

[@BikerTorque]

I’ll see if we can get a press bike from Triumph. Yamaha unfortunately don’t reply to our emails, their loss.

[@panigalepilot28]

Nice review guys. Great to see a local bike review based in Western Sydney on roads familiar to me. I really like the Leoncino trail, but I am very much looking forward to riding the Benelli TRK 702 and 702X. I think as much as the Leoncino trail looks good on the dirt the TRK 702X looks better and has all the tech you need for adventure riding. Would love to see you guys review those upcoming bikes.

[@BikerTorque]

Cheers thanks for that, glad you liked it. Yes hoping to get some of the new Benellis soon for review.

[@78Outlaw]

Good review guys. Looks tempting in the mid scrambler segment, a step up from the Morini SCR.. How would you compare the motor to the CP2 of the MT07?

[@BikerTorque]

Thanks, glad you enjoyed the video. It’s not as torquey as the MT07, probably a bit more top end power.

[@deniseroberts6908]

How’s about Leoncino 800 Trail v BMW R NineT Scrambler or Urban GS. Similar in style

[@BikerTorque]

Shall see if we can get an RNine T

[@vintagerocket6814]

Nice job on the review and much appreciated. Those oil filters however, very much destructable! 😄

[@BikerTorque]

Cheers thanks, glad you enjoyed the review. Yes I suppose they are if you hit them hard enough

[@hachewie]

It does sound a little sewing machine-esque

[@BikerTorque]

Yep it’s a bit tinnie

[@justicenotobedience4176]

Leoncino trail-V-800TRK When it comes in, please.

[@BikerTorque]

That sounds like a plan. Thanks for watching

[@BDHO73]

Looks awesome, good fun. Not sure about the Lego lion though.

[@BikerTorque]

Great fun, but it old Leo, well…

[@cil56nz]

Love to see you guys do a review on the baby leoncino 500 and the 500 trail as well

[@BikerTorque]

We will speak to Benelli Australia to see if they still have any of those on the press fleet

[@f.t.w1066]

Great review guys..👍👍👍👍👍

[@BikerTorque]

Glad you enjoyed it and thanks for watching

[@Gearlube_chain_wax_solutions]

Did anyone saw the small crocodile?

[@BikerTorque]

Lol, it was a Goanna, big lizard here in Australia. I saw a few bubbles coming out of that puddle and thought I wait to see what came out of it before I crossed

[@flamhit]

Oh great review from Ross and ...... Misty? Tech information informative and not to technical, visuals fantastic , edit as always sharp and really enjoying the relaxed and funny 2 presenter format. I thought a Leoncino was a type of coffee til I saw this.

[@BikerTorque]

Glad you enjoyed it! Pretty sure it is a coffee, I’ll have a double Leoncino please mista barista.

[@superslick5677]

Why would you compare that to a gs??? Why wouldn't you put the benelli 502x up against something like the gs800, least they are both the same style.

[@BikerTorque]

I don’t think we were comparing it, clearly the GS is a more premium bike, simply saying for those who doing some light off-roading is it enough bike, which I think it is considering most GS don’t make it off road. Thanks for watching

[@ginoasci2876]

it’s italian not chinese. the chinese don’t make anything other than junky parts. the designs are always from someplace else and the chinese are hired to make parts. junky crappy parts that rust and rott from the inside out. sadly, this is the truth. the bike is italian.

[@BikerTorque]

Chinese owned, but great bike

[@ginoasci2876]

@@BikerTorque : yes sir/yes ma’am, but it doesn’t make the bike chinese. same with bugatti, it’s italian and people sometimes confuse it with being french.

[@kaliotrinita9876]

Try the CfMoto CL-X 700 it's an amazing chinese bike. and this is only the engineer who are Italian for the Benelli, everything else is chinese.

[@JinmingLong]

Beneli was acquired by China's QJ very early on, and the bike is made in China from beginning to end, even every screw, and it has only a small remaining brand story to do with Italy.