Great video! As a mechanical engineer that regularly designs injection molded, diecast, machined, and 3D printed parts (not in the bike industry) and tinkers on bikes at home in the garage, this type of content really tickles my brain. It's fun to nerd out on the design and engineering.
@PathLessPedaledTV3 ай бұрын
Great vid and questions!
@angelortiz3533 ай бұрын
That no 22 looks amazing but damn the price for a frameset takes alot of people out if its range including me🤷
@Fatbutnotflat3 ай бұрын
Same hour with Russ's video? Jackpot!
@TheBikeSauce3 ай бұрын
Haha poor planning on my part
@Fatbutnotflat3 ай бұрын
@@TheBikeSauce but a treat for us subs of both!
@alexanderasdf27423 ай бұрын
Good questions, interesting answers.
@antoinedoinell3 ай бұрын
I think the neuhaus guy summarized 3D printing very well. looking forward to the day when 3D printing can ultimately cut costs for the consumer.
@thedronescene74743 ай бұрын
Lol, will never happen. They can cut the price now if they want but they arent and never will.
@Daniel_Yang_ARTEFACT3 ай бұрын
Casting is always going to be cheaper. There is still a lot of labor involved with 3D printing. The upside is that 3D printing enables development, so you end up with better products and new companies to bring in new ideas and perspectives to cycling.
@Daniel_Yang_ARTEFACT3 ай бұрын
@@thedronescene7474 I know our bikes are expensive, but let me shed some insight. All new bikes are expensive, its just how the world works. But that is OK, because there are plenty of amazing used bikes for sale. One day our bikes will hit the 2nd hand market. That makes me happy because I know that we designed and made a beautiful, reliable, durable machine that someone else will value and give another life.
@nationsnumber1chump3 ай бұрын
Functionally its fine but the molecular structure isn't the same as normal steel tubing so really stress points are still a bit of an unknown for bike parts
@rosomak82442 ай бұрын
More way to make cable routing even more complicated? Yay!
@Frostbiker3 ай бұрын
3D printing sounds fantastic for rapid prototyping. For an end-consumer product, it probably makes sense very rarely. That doesn't mean that consumers won't benefit!
@Daniel_Yang_ARTEFACT3 ай бұрын
For sure. 3D printing only makes sense on the 10-100 qty scale. I recently did some research to compare a printed vs cast part on our bike. The cast part only broke even with 3D printing at the 400qty units. But, we would never have been able to get to this point of design, testing, and production without 3D printing!
@thomasf.98693 ай бұрын
Can 3d printing democratise the bike industry ? Can it break up oligopolies by lowering barriers to entry for things like group set manufacturing?
@alexanderasdf27423 ай бұрын
I don't think so. It's about engineering in the first place. With 3D printing you might save on some other specialized machines. But traditional large scale manufacturing will probably still be cheaper. However, it really depends on what you want to manufacture.
@thomasf.98693 ай бұрын
@@alexanderasdf2742 There is a difference between how much something costs to make, and how much it costs to buy. Meaningful competition will squeeze the gap between the two amounts. Looking at the price of modern group sets I think the manufacturers could do with some healthy competition.
@alexanderasdf27423 ай бұрын
@@thomasf.9869 Good point. But aren't there some other Chinese competitors already that are also cheaper? I don't know about quality or function of those products. But I think it takes some time and marketing before market shares change.
@thomasf.98693 ай бұрын
@@alexanderasdf2742 Agreed. I am not against mass manufacturing. But at some point the consumer should benefit from the economies of scale.
@Daniel_Yang_ARTEFACT3 ай бұрын
3D printing won't lower costs, but it will enable smaller companies with big ideas to change the way bike industry thinks. For example, 3D printing allowed us to create a massive size range. This benefits riders 5'5 and below, who are typically excluded by the traditional bike industry.
@MaciejNaumienko3 ай бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/hZDKnYGghtGcmZI Really like these joints/transitions between the tubes