Bill Belichick LOOKS BAD in Dynasty Doc - Zolak & Bertrand

Apple TV's new Patriots Documentary, The Dynasty paints Bill Belichick in a bad light during Episode 6 according to Zolak and Bertrand. The guys discuss the Aaron Hernandez episode.

[@mattmccarthy9067]

Keep in mind that the documentary was Kraft-produced

[@zachhayes432]

Thank you. I’m not a pats fan and don’t have any skin in the game but the fact anyone thinks that episode makes bill look bad is just ridiculous. He was the best player on the team. Of course bill didn’t get rid of him until he had to.

[@randomflagg7331]

yeah, they should get into movies. they got the wounded ego thing down PAT

[@bobwalton4630]

Kraft clearly had some sway over this series. The director was on Toucher and Hardy last week and denied it but the way it ends leaves no doubt to me that this was The Bob Kraft Story. Still as a die hard Patriots fan it's worth watching.

[@randomflagg7331]

@@bobwalton4630 yes I totally agree. and it feels more like regret and an apology rather than a celebration of 20 years. and no offense to TB but he shouldn't be narrating it. if Bill won't do it, hire Daniel Day Lewis And why get a director who clearly doesn't like the team. hire Affleck if you must.

[@CharlieTWilbury]

The one with the money that pays the editor gets to control the narrative. How did the documentary cover Kraft's happy ending habit?

[@ayalave75]

The interview asked Bill why he refused to trade Hernandez to Seattle during the 2013 scouting combine, Hernandez’s teammate at Florida Percy Harvin was traded from Minnesota to Seattle on March 11th 2013. Clearly, Bill knew Hernandez true motivation was to be traded to play with Harvin. The request for a trade had nothing to do with starting over and fearing for his safety. It was just Hernandez attempting to lie and manipulate his way into getting what he wanted.

[@dixoncider3396]

He shot his friend in the face for making fun of him for being fruity and the club...and his friend survived and that's what he was scared of..

[@ayalave75]

If Kraft cared to hear what kind of person Hernandez truly was, he could’ve easily contacted NFL security. The NFL and league have their own security staff that investigate anything the league and owners care to know about. They’re all retired FBI and secret service agents, highly qualified, connected and able to get any info the league and owners want. They’re there to protect “the shield” as the commissioner likes to say. If Kraft wanted to know, I’m sure they had the info or could have gotten it for him. He simply didn’t take the time to ask, or didn’t want to know. It’s kind of funny the Pats media have failed to point this out and aren’t calling him out on it.

[@randomflagg7331]

exactly. pats media is in on it. kraft is selling this, "it wasn't me' image as if he were this innocent bystander not the beneficiary of bill dragging him to all those championships reluctantly, how dare he. and everyone in NE is falling for it. and id like him to compare what he paid for the team versus how much the franchise is worth now. idk the exact number but it's worth a lot of back massages if ya ask me.

[@joeruiz4010]

Belichick viewed the Hernandez situation in the same way he viewed Lawrence Taylor's situation of addiction issues with Drugs and Alcohol. Belichick under-estimated Hernandez's 'bad side'. That dejavu approach was no good in the end..

[@shawngreene1225]

Maybe he asked so law enforcement wouldn't think he did it

[@ianross806]

Ernie Adams admitted they had first round talent in the fourth round, despite all the red flags at Florida. Urban Meyer's staff covered up for him. Hernandez expected the same treatment in New England.

[@claymac7895]

The person "after" Aaron was Alexander Bradley. His ex best friend and drug dealer who he shot in the face in Florida and put his eye out.

[@Donnydon1996]

The be fair, after Hernandez, the patriots drafting process, took a hit you no longer took a risk or chances on players. And we have yet to recover from that

[@Dima-qz4mo]

Jack Jones!!!

[@randomflagg7331]

@@Dima-qz4mo who?

[@JoeyAgzBDA]

People also forget Belichick had a very close relationship with Florida head coach Urban Meyer so perhaps Bill had even more insight and intel than we or anyone in the locker room had..

[@bobwalton4630]

I just finished this series yesterday and overall they did a great job. The highs were very high and the lows were excruciating. I always gave credit to all the players for coming together in 2018 and winning the Super Bowl over the Rams a year after Bill Belichick pulled one of the worst coaching moves of all time in the Eagles Super Bowl. It was interesting to see the players perspective on it now that they are retired. Malcom Butler comes across as someone who just wants to take the high road. The show cold have used more Bill Parcells because he was the one who rebuilt the Patriots, not Bob Kraft. And Belichick clearly didn't want to participate in this thing. He is the greatest coach of all time and while I always side with the players the filmmakers beat up on him so badly in this thing that you almost felt sorry for him at the end of it.

[@davidlynchsseveredear6944]

This page, these commentators, and it’s comments from the so called “fans” are absolutely hilarious. What’s the love affair with Robert Kraft? You get to shoot your little show in his facility? This doc is a well calculated hit piece from the Kraft family, so Kraft can look like a peach when it’s all over. Fans are seeing through the crap.

[@Jack-ms3so]

Kraft is all about self promotion! He could have intervened and didn’t!

[@MrJayheller]

I just find this whole situation so sad… I remember watching AH in high school… coached kids that played against him… uncoverable…. I routed so hard for that kid…. Just such a waste

[@timc629]

Belichick makes Belichick look bad.

[@POKERBEAST25]

Especially when he says he puts team first and then you have Kraft saying that the benching of Butler in the Eagles Super Bowl was 'personal'. That truly makes him look bad and his former players from that season still hold the grudge.

[@gregoryphillips3969]

THANK YOU

[@HorrorFreak68]

I just finished the Hernandez episode, and I thought Belichick has looked GREAT so far.

[@georgen5882]

I think the part people might be missing is that it’s very possible Hernandez hid this all very well. None of us really know the truth, but I remember when this happened it seemed like a shock to every player that spoke about it. He may have just played the good boy on the field and in the locker room and then had the other side when he went home. I’m all for chastising bill for anything he has done wrong, but do you really think the same coach who sends people home for being late, benches players for foot comments, is going to continue to play a murderer? I have a hard time getting past that. I think bill may actually care about the players(Ted Johnson aside), and may have just been a little too naive to see what was really going on amid the other personal issues Hernandez had.

[@btspyglass4077]

This is what happens when the subject doesn't help the interviewer

[@earthvessel952]

This is what makes Belichick look bad?!! It's something that several other successful coaches have often done. It's hard to figure what's happened to sports media when it comes to Bill Belichick. There are over a dozen senseless and damaging, head scratching decisions over his last six years with New England. If anyone cared to look at them in wider context there IS a story here. It might just be Bill's ego got the best of him and he gradually consolidated his control and power to a point that he bit off more than he could chew. Or maybe something else that I'm not even considering. In any case when someone with complete control who reports to an owner makes move after move that weakens his team and dilutes its' appeal, there's a F%#%$g story there idiots! GO GET IT!!

[@williamveasey6801]

Russell Wilson being released by the Broncos.

[@tomascarlsson1856]

Maybe bill should have checked tats and gangsta

[@Jakery1057]

That episode didn't make Bill look bad. It's no different than what Phil Jackson and the Bulls put it up with dealing with Dennis Rodman in their documentary. No different than what Andy Reid put up with, with Travis Kelce and the sideline blowup and Tyreek Hill beating up his pregnant girlfriend. It's a sports competitive advantage thing, not really a specific coach thing. You don't win as a coaching staff and front office, your out of a job period point blank.

[@bigburt04]

I don’t think any of those situations you mention involved 4 murders

[@polandfresh101]

@@bigburt04well Bill didn’t know that Hernandez was killing people…he probably just thought he was crazy and paranoid.

[@zeeski7454]

​@@polandfresh101exactly

[@zeeski7454]

​@bigburt04 you make it sound like Bill played the guy after the murders, who really knew he was going to do that?

[@DOUBLEOENTLIVE]

Y’all dragging it everyone knows that great talents gets extra chances in sports at all levels and the only two sources we’re players that got let go and had a issue with bill

[@russelllawrence7182]

Ok maybe people thought at worst he was Dennis Rodman ja morrant bad not actually killing people nobody knew that

[@danmosley4387]

CTE since high school. He was F ed.

[@liftme225]

weak. These are men playing football. Coach B isn't their daddy.

[@jayy88]

Bill looks bad because he ran the team into the ground. We are basically the equivalent of an expansion team atm.

[@zeeski7454]

After he built a dynasty

[@jayy88]

@@zeeski7454 Parcels built it. Most of that defense was built by Parcels Adam Vinatieri also Parcels. Bill didn’t even scout Brady that was Rehbein who begged us to draft him. But sure if you want to give Bill credit that’s fine you also have to give him blame for tearing it down. He benched Butler he tried to trade Gronk he neglected the offense and he wanted to push Brady out for a decade. He also flirted with going to the Giants and Cowboys.

[@zeeski7454]

@@jayy88 so parcels drafted Brady? Ok......

[@jayy88]

@@zeeski7454 where did I say he drafted Brady. I clearly said all the guys on defense plus Adam and Troy.

[@zeeski7454]

@jayy88 ok, he turned turned those draft picks into multiple super bowl champs. Stupid sports fans diminishing the accomplishments of great coaches/ players really crack me up.

[@JeremyCaron]

Hypocrite Bill. But we already knew that after Malcolm Butler.

[@randomflagg7331]

And yet despite it all. He kept that team consistent. operating at a high caliber for decades. Danny amandola is a nobody. his words wring hollow to me. in fact the majority of the players from the second dynasty i don't even know them they are shuffling in and out so fast its remarkable how belichick was able to figure these different puzzle pieces. most of these problems would have destroyed a team for decades and yet he was able to right the ship by making a slight course correction and the result speaks for itself. and so what he was going to trade brady and gronk because their value in draft picks would have fully furnished the patriots dynasty for decades to come. good ole dummy kraft through the kibosh on that and saddled bill with an aging quarterback, no succession plan and no wide receivers. brady would have easily been used in trades or picks to upgrade the offense and garoppolo would have moved seemliness into the helm as the new improved model. having learned from watching the best and with bill grinding him i have no doubt the patriots would have won 2 more titles if bill was given everything he wanted. if i was him i would have walked if they forced me to trade garopolo. parcells was right. They are just owners, the only time they get involved is when they want to screw things up. But bills loyalty was unmatched and he thought he'd be rewarded for that. for all he did. and it's a disgrace to see a man of honor treated this way. i hope the patriots get whats coming to them. i'll root for the JETS from now on. And i hop bill reconsiders and goes to NY. that will be two easy wins yearly against NE. A team that has lost it's nerve and chooses instead to operate smear campaigns to cast doubt everywhere but where it trully belongs.

[@davis2k1234]

Build around Jimmy G instead of keeping the best player in the league🤡 Kraft saved the franchise and got them another SB in 2018 vetoing that stupidity Bill was trying to do and hey if you want to build around Jimmy he just got cut for the 2nd time in 2 seasons after being benched for A O’Connell in LV

[@randomflagg7331]

@@davis2k1234 kraft saved the franchise.... Ha! Now i know i've heard it all. You've been watching too much of "The Dynasty," And i suppose you believe that Brady won superbowl 36 all by his self. He didn't need to rely on no ty law interception or a vineterri kick at the buzzer. Nope. Because he was so F-ing good it was all brady. 😂🤣😂🤤🤕

[@marckellough529]

I wonder what you would be saying if Brady had went over a decade without ever coming close to winning anything like Belichick?? I wonder what you would be saying if Brady had looked so pathetic his last four years without Belichick that Robert Kraft fired his ass like he did Belichick?? I guarantee you would never stop talking about it but now you pretend like you don't know about Belichick's losing track record

[@davis2k1234]

@@randomflagg7331 Kraft won them 1 more super bowl by vetoing Brady trade in 2017 the franchise was done the second Brady was thrown out the back door by Bill like a 3rd string LB Typical Brady hater try cherry pick the Rams Super Bowls which the Patriots don’t even make playoffs those seasons let alone super bowl without Brady at QB there’s a reason they went 5-11 with same team that won that 1st SB

[@JJJJ-he8bz]

@@Shatamxand who bill brought him to the team genuis😂

[@FantasySportsZen]

U guys are so lame. As bad as cable news.