Bill (Celtic Fan) Talks EBTs on Clyde 1 Superscoreboard 13-09-12

Bill the Celtic supporter phones up Clyde 1 Superscoreboard to discuss Charles Green's media outbursts and the outcome of the ongoing EBT investigation at Rangers. Bill believes that Rangers should lose their titles if the dual contract case goes against Rangers, while Hugh Keevins argues otherwise. Whether Celtic "bottled it" or not, Flanders is completely ignorant and dismissive of the fact that the tax avoidance in EBTs and the associated dual contracts would give Rangers an unfair sporting advantage over the whole season and not just in a single competitive game.

[@iananderson3294]

How the tables have turned lol🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧55 and counting

[@johnnykage1670]

Has it though …..

[@Gaffnaldo2]

Did that ever go anywhere naw?

[@ALMH199]

Wrong. Insolvency law applies to all businesses, in HM court of law. Under this law when liquidation is implemented then all assets and property etc are wound up and finished , womp womp wommppp

[@Gaffnaldo2]

@@ALMH199 think we've all moved on from that now.

[@ALMH199]

@@Gaffnaldo2 if you like but it applies indefinitely, it’s the law.

[@gessabrek]

I was in Franklin's in bellshill that day and 3 so called motherwell fans got there arse handed to them!!!!!!!

[@daviegarden2624]

‘We paid’ money and we were robbed! What a diddy.

[@paulritchie5868]

No he’s right,cheated all of Scottish Football.

[@gessabrek]

The way the orcs go on about being the same club is ludicrous. I said to one of them that he sounded like trigger with the same brush for 20 years!!!! He's only changed the shaft and the brush head!!!!!! But its the same!!!!!!!!! Thank the lord for these peppul!!!

[@johnnykage1670]

A lot of insults for the man making the point but no legitimate argument to counter what he’s saying , he’s right end of call him obsessed or sad or whatever but the man is bang on

[@kevinmcfadyen5835]

using that 1 championship it's not decided on the final day, hence why it's called a championship and not a cup. They had an unfair advantage for the entire season which would mean they would not have been in the running come the final game. By your rational teams can cheat all season as long as the club that's been cheated get a chance in the last game to win ..................... wtf????? Your talking mince.

[@tonyh7994]

Yeah that was pretty stupid because if rangers hadn't cheated then they wouldn't be in the race on the final day

[@xenosys2005]

Agreed.

[@footielad8301]

Right, but the past can't be changed, and history can't be changed. So i don't see how Celtic should then claim these titles and trophies that they never won. Wither it gave Rangers an advantage or not the EBT's, that doesn't mean Celtic can then take them back. No, that's not how it works, Celtic never won those cups, so to hand cups to a club that where never won within it's own history is simply bollocks and nonsensical.

[@ayem8320]

Still the premier club in this country and always will be Sellick will always be the poor mans club 🔴⚪️🔵

[@tonyh7994]

5-0 to the poor man's club

[@ayem8320]

Tony Harley watch this space and you’ll see how poor we are 😉😁

[@paulritchie5868]

Oh how we laughed then and now..NIAR.

[@Johnnyboy469]

@@paulritchie5868 rangers have 55 titles and celtic have 50 and the covid 1 that got given to them Fact google it.

[@Johnnyboy469]

@@tonyh7994 Glasgow Rangers Cahmpions 55

[@wonjubhoy]

Top division titles Celtic 44 v sevco 0. We welcome the chase!

[@tonyh7994]

*49 - 0

[@johnreeveswilliamson7228]

Rangers still have 54 top titles check it over with the SFA, SPFL, ECA, UEFA, FIFA they all still regard us as the same club.

[@garymckechnie1013]

@@johnreeveswilliamson7228 sevco FC

[@paulritchie5868]

John Reeves Williamson 51 now...even with your cheating we are catching you..

[@allanj1872]

War titles dont count ya taig

[@stevenshaw5883]

Why have so called team rangers have 5 stars on strip it's false because it's new team and haven't won premier title should get done by trading standards

[@binniemod]

54 Titles and still going strong.

[@binniemod]

@Free speech for the dumb Companies don't win Titles ya fruitcake😂

[@Citybhoy]

@@binniemod aye but it’s the company that pay the wages so the point still stands

[@Johnnyboy469]

@Me you and the animal NEIL DONCASTER has today insisted Rangers is the same club now as the one that existed pre-liquidation. The SPFL chief executive has attempted to end the argument that has raged ever since the insolvency event of 2012. He was emphatic in a Q&A session done with the BBC. Doncaster said: “In terms of the question about old club, new club, that was settled very much by the Lord Nimmo Smith commission that was put together by the SPL to look at EBT payments at that time.

[@donuttime2507]

@@Johnnyboy469 I'm a Tim but I congratulate Rangers and SG stopping 1iar. No doubt we bottled it and Rangers right now are the best team in Scotland...This video is still comedy gold though 🤣

[@christophercoyle65]

1 title in a 10yrs history 🍀🍀

[@JohnnyMac95]

What a legend, Bill!

[@billymcmonagle949]

If you like your legends to be thick and uneducated on matters of law. Jog on you manky wankers

[@GLASGOWRANGERSFGAU]

Am sure wee had a few helicopter sundays with only goal difference between rangers and Celtic I for one didn't see a sporting advantage was always a close race am sure septic won more titles than rangers during the ebt years sporting advantage my arse

[@danbreen6946]

Spasy

[@Johnnyboy469]

@@danbreen6946 NEIL DONCASTER has today insisted Rangers is the same club now as the one that existed pre-liquidation. The SPFL chief executive has attempted to end the argument that has raged ever since the insolvency event of 2012. He was emphatic in a Q&A session done with the BBC. Doncaster said: “In terms of the question about old club, new club, that was settled very much by the Lord Nimmo Smith commission that was put together by the SPL to look at EBT payments at that time.

[@tryagain873]

Eh bold "Hughie Bhoy" clearly doesn't have a reply keeps referring to that 1 title incident even tho Callers stating hes talking about sporting integrity and advantaged gained through it,They were all stuck for words on that subject tho they've got them still n they'll fucking need them were rewriting record books

[@Johnnyboy469]

Glasgow Rangers Champions 55

[@Steivetheking]

So it’s ok for your show to talk about ebts but we canny talk about child abuse!

[@Gingeee7]

Not guilty in a court of law hahaha Get it up yi !! We welcome the chase !! 55 Titles still going strong, soon to be 56 when we win Scottish League 1 !!

[@mikecarr8915]

Gingeee7 WTF!!! What a fcukin cockwomble. Still can’t see yous coming, where’s your titles 5 years later???

[@crackajack4535]

6 years later and still no update haha!! HH 🍀🍀

[@Chris-il6yh]

Found guilty and fined fact. Public of information act look it up!

[@paulritchie5868]

7 years now...sob sob...

[@Johnnyboy469]

@@mikecarr8915 NEIL DONCASTER has today insisted Rangers is the same club now as the one that existed pre-liquidation. The SPFL chief executive has attempted to end the argument that has raged ever since the insolvency event of 2012. He was emphatic in a Q&A session done with the BBC. Doncaster said: “In terms of the question about old club, new club, that was settled very much by the Lord Nimmo Smith commission that was put together by the SPL to look at EBT payments at that time.

[@JohnCambridge-c6t]

Rangers got off lightly

[@dyetscott]

To think Peter Lawwell himself is involved in a tax avoidance scheme and few familiar Celtic personalities involved in the same tax avoidance scheme to think that Peter Lawwell and some of his other cronies at the SFA were passing judgement on other clubs sporting integrity concerning tax avoidance scheme while he was involved in a tax avoidance scheme himself it must call into question his position at the SFA?

[@ЖакПутин]

You can’t liquidate a football club 😂only the business, the club won the titles not the business 😂😂😂

[@StephenMcinally-gr2uc]

Your. Club shared one wae Dumbarton and they had more goals than you 3 years in look now youse are corrupt twats and we're now the most successful club in Scotland now ya clown Glasgow Celtic sevco are in another meltdown they said they were going to win a quadruple and win a league cup 😂😂wznkers giruy corrupt twats😂😂🇯🇴🇨🇮🇯🇵🏆😜🙏

[@StephenMcinally-gr2uc]

But your club were corrupt bastards so they should never have kept the trophies they were won under a corrupt club and cheating and not making it fair for other clubs because cheating twats new what they were doing simple 😂😂 giruy were champions ov Scotland another double to the collected Brendan the Hun skelper is back 😂😂

[@andypandy123ful]

Madman on council pooder

[@brianclark8159]

Big Jock Knew.

[@Citybhoy]

Good Christian you are

[@danbreen6946]

I Jock knew rangers were cheating bastard's

[@paulritchie5868]

Knew your fuckwits.

[@gerardhume9286]

Harry Dunn 😂

[@joepaccrakurii1227]

Hugh its quite simple. Rangers bought 0players and paid them wages that , if they had went through the proper channels they COULDNTVE AFFORDED THEM. It's simple. Paying lower wages so as to pay less national insurance then paying the same players "under the table" it's the single biggest sporting disgrace in the world of sport. I dont say Celtic should be awarded (although let's face it they wouldve won the titles if it was all above board) but rangers should be stripped or the very least an asterisk placed beside them. EVERY club in Scotland were cheated out of money none more so than Celtic. Also the other way to look at it is that rangers by not paying their due taxes took money and equipment from the armed services (which they love to pay lip service to, celtic dont yet Celtic give 10k every year to the poppy appeal while charity money from the old crocs game v ac milan glorie was STOLEN) the bare faced cheek that rangers and their fans show is incredible. They took money from the NHS coffers and from what I'd say a large proportion of their own fans social security. It is almost incalculable how much Celtic alone have been cheated out of for winning but also potential champions league earnings. I've said the same thing thos guy says , rangers are a newco when it suits them I.e not paying debts but then they are the same club when it comes to trophies. Ridiculous double standards in this country then when someone does dare speak out they have bullets , bombs etc. Sent to them, they have their address posted over the net for any nutjob to see. Attacked in the street AND inside the stadium. I feel bad for the majority of decent gers fans, I have many good friends that love the club and it 8s those guys that get hurt the worst.

[@Johnnyboy469]

Ebt's were legal when started by murray, when they became illegal they were all getting paid bk until the man who has liquidated thousands of company's got in craig whyte.

[@Johnnyboy469]

NEIL DONCASTER has today insisted Rangers is the same club now as the one that existed pre-liquidation. The SPFL chief executive has attempted to end the argument that has raged ever since the insolvency event of 2012. He was emphatic in a Q&A session done with the BBC. Doncaster said: “In terms of the question about old club, new club, that was settled very much by the Lord Nimmo Smith commission that was put together by the SPL to look at EBT payments at that time.

[@hughrankin3889]

Another thick headed tim

[@daviegarden2624]

I’ve just listened to this again and this guy ‘Bill’ is what I thought originally, a diddy and not an ordinary diddy, a pure diddy, the diddy of diddy’s. Hugh Kevin’s is right. This diddy Bill fails to realise that Rangers already said that their advisors said EBTs were legal at the time and furthermore if the board at the time had been advised otherwise they would still have paid the same amount of money for and to the players anyway. Celtic fans conveniently always forget that in their argument. Maybe they should be asking where their gate money went from the era when the club were run by the Kelly’s , White’s and McGinn’s for around 50 years when Celtic Park was full to the brim, no seats, all standing, around 70/80 thousand fans week in week out yet the ‘official’ gate figures were around 35/40 thousand fans. So for around 40/50 years Celtic were falsifying their gate receipts and that means their tax bill was being ‘avoided’ to the tune of around 50% for every home game. So Bill, are you trying to suggest that none of that ‘stolen’ fans money didn’t go towards paying and keeping the first team players that Celtic had during that era? I we all follow ‘your’ logic then your 9 in a row was paid for by stolen gate money and Rangers should get awarded these 9 seasons league titles, ya fanny.

[@campbellblack2340]

55 ya dancer

[@mrlemon1239]

Hahahaha Bill’s raging man! 😂

[@alexmalexander7159]

You can feel his pain haha 54 top tier titles and counting

[@haroldbhoy67]

+Alex M Alexander71 CHEATS

[@tonyh7994]

Even if you count the EBT tainted cheated titles when talking about the old club then you still only won 53.5 cos one was shared with Dumbarton

[@dee4732]

Moooooo moooooo

[@allanj1872]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@paulritchie5868]

You still laughing pal..we are.

[@allanj1872]

@@paulritchie5868 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@paulritchie5868]

Allan WATP we avoid tax payments..is that what it means.....WATP indeed.

[@stuartbrady8082]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

[@poneil6442]

But Olympians athletes get medals for cheats handed back but not football A CHEAT ISA CHEAT

[@andypandy123ful]

Celtic fanzine

[@tonyh7994]

I'm a Celtic fan but we didn't finish second every year Rangers won the league with players they couldnt afford so some must have to go to Aberdeen and Motherwell too.

[@footielad8301]

Right, but the past can't be changed, and history can't be changed. So i don't see how Celtic should then claim these titles and trophies that they never won. Wither it gave Rangers an advantage or not the EBT's, that doesn't mean Celtic can then take them back. No, that's not how it works, Celtic never won those cups, so to hand cups to a club that where never won within it's own history is simply bollocks and nonsensical.

[@tophyy906]

well if rangers didn't get the unfair advantage then Celtic and the other clubs would have won instead. quite simple.

[@footielad8301]

Tophyy Right, but that's a hypothetical argument, the past can't be changed. Rangers still won those trophies, unfairly you may argue, but they still won them, and the other clubs didn't. So the other clubs can't then claim trophies that wasn't part of their history when they never won those trophies/cups. History isn't something you can change to suit the agenda of those who want more glory, the past isn't something you can change. I tell you why it's not that simple also shall i? Because Celtic have lost cups in recent years to teams that haven't used unfair advantages regarding finance, so you are merely assuming that the rest of Scotland would've won those trophies. Who's to say Rangers wouldn't have won what they did had they not used EBT's? You're just assuming Celtic or other clubs would've won those cups instead, which isn't a strong case for your argument that clubs outside Rangers can make claim to said trophies. You're just assuming.

[@tophyy906]

I didn't say I wanted the trophies but rangers shouldn't have them ether. If rangers didnt get those players through EBTs im sure they wouldn't have won those in the first place. That is an assumption yes but a informed one.

[@footielad8301]

Tophyy Fine, well either way it appears as if their titles aren't being striped anyways. That was put to bed a while ago wither they should go or not.

[@joeybill9472]

I was gutted that we lost the title in 2005. Yes we lost it on the pitch and maybe Hugh Dallas should have awarded us a penalty that would have made it 2nil. However that was lost on the pitch. Off the Pitch tho, if Rangers hadn't used that scheme would they have been able to get those players in? I don't think so. This scandal is similar to the Salary cap scandal in Melbourne in 2009. I don't think Celtic should be given the trophies, but Rangers should of had them stripped.

[@kenzieorr]

Unlucky bill 54 and counting

[@kevinlynch9438]

chris orr Chris Orr.... Hopefully someone bought you a dictionary for Christmas??? As you obviously don't know what the word liquidation OR Administration means??? But that's your non-denominational (Prody) schools for you !!! It's not even your fault your a half wit!!! Wimbledon = MK Dons ?? Let's just leave it at that eh.... Silly Hun B@st@rd 🇮🇪✊🏻🇵🇸

[@Jamie-kv9eg]

@@kevinlynch9438 comments 7 year auld ya crackpot😂

[@Johnnyboy469]

@@kevinlynch9438 NEIL DONCASTER has today insisted Rangers is the same club now as the one that existed pre-liquidation. The SPFL chief executive has attempted to end the argument that has raged ever since the insolvency event of 2012. He was emphatic in a Q&A session done with the BBC. Doncaster said: “In terms of the question about old club, new club, that was settled very much by the Lord Nimmo Smith commission that was put together by the SPL to look at EBT payments at that time.