Bill Moyers: U.S. Democracy "May Be Running Out of Luck" | Amanpour and Company

[@jjetta264]

Bill Moyer's is a national living treasure. He has always represented truth, integrity, humility, and balanced journalism. The country is blessed to have him as an American.

[@tyy5557]

@Ash Hegde You're wrong.

[@johannabernstein4130]

Agree with Bill Moyer’s. For one! Fox News is not news!!!!. It’s pure evil propaganda for the individuals who’s only intention is to destroy America. A White power movement on tv 24 hrs a day lying to America. It must be legally attacked. Lies are destroying our country!!!!

[@bobbeckhart1707]

@Ash Hegde Russian bot

[@chrispfeifer7628]

@Ash Hegde That's because you are a part of the infection that's took hold in the fringe of the US.

[@sophiehall9814]

@Ash Hegde Please provide us with a full response rather than this soundbite. Provide proof of your opinion, because there is a lot of proof for you to look for - please make sure it's unbiased proof, please.

[@veritas2222]

Bill, we miss you!!! Now more than ever your wisdom is essential to the nation. 🙏💖✨

[@UKindness4]

Thanks for coming back Bill! We really need you right now desperately!

[@johnshafer7214]

Bill Moyers is a living legend! I enjoyed his programs on PBS and he always made sure all sides could be heard. He even had Republicans who were upset with their party on his show.

[@jorgegonzalez-larramendi5491]

today the usa gets tuckums

[@Frenchblue8]

@@jorgegonzalez-larramendi5491 ugh

[@do-beebrothers2550]

The rainbow warrior cult of the rabid woke democrats, the human traffic of the Red Bull of British Empire, the Union Jack off boot black. Obama, the strange love of devil’s shoe shine boy, pushing the Oscar Wilde west crossfire dope, to inner city 🌈💀💀💀💀💀 toll Count 🧛🏻‍♂️ downer cope.

[@debbiehart4443]

Frightening. Bill Moyers is a long time hero of mine..intellect, integrity, honor… always grateful for his input.

[@kfleming78]

Bill Moyers lives in a cartoon world where he is full of "love" and "truth", and all the smart people that can debate and discuss issues outside of an echo chamber are full of "hate" & "lies". Eventually his virtue reality batteries are going to run out.

[@julianabernathy5413]

@@kfleming78 There is a Ken Fleming who is a Kentucky State Representative Ken Fleming (R)

[@kfleming78]

@@julianabernathy5413 yes - i know there is, but im pretty sure he's just a cuckservative. I'm an actual right winger - not a conservative

[@do-beebrothers2550]

The rainbow warrior cult of the rabid woke democrats, the human traffic of the Red Bull of British Empire, the Union Jack off boot black. Obama, the strange love of devil’s shoe shine boy, pushing the Oscar Wilde west crossfire dope, to inner city 🌈💀💀💀💀💀 toll Count 🧛🏻‍♂️ downer cope.

[@mwilson7842]

Bill Moyers is a national treasure. 👏

[@richardwilliams4976]

God bless Bill Moyers.🙏🇺🇸❤️

[@skeptick6513]

More like buried treasure since despite years of warning few Americans listen to him which is why we've reached this point.

[@deloreswillis9224]

✔️

[@susanwilliams1594]

Bill Moyers, Jimmy Carter, and other white southerners of their stellar historical reputation, have been speaking true about the sickening sight of that Confedrate flag in the Capitol on 6 Jan 2021. I’m a well-educated white southerner, and the sight of that flag inside the Capitol infuriated me as much as it sickened me. I thank God for this program, for Amanpour herself, and I hope Bill Moyers will live forever as a cultural icon.

[@patricialongo5746]

And ordinary people who do so are simply invisible in social media.

[@susanwilliams1594]

@@patricialongo5746 I’m an ordinary person.

[@patricialongo5746]

@@susanwilliams1594 it's rare for anyone to see my comments. I have never gotten a thumb.

[@patricialongo5746]

@@susanwilliams1594 I'm invisible unless I replied to a comment. Really.

[@jerrylumpy5141]

First time I saw the flag in person it was used to threaten me while in my twenties. I moved to GA and I was surprised ppl in mass still lived backwoods.

[@lwells3937]

I'd love to see Bill Moyers again. I miss his show. He's one of the voices of reason and intellect.

[@harveycan5820]

They could at least re-run the show.

[@kfleming78]

Bill Moyers & Belew talk like they just want to pack up and move to UGANDA or YEMEN, but some unexplained force prevents them from doing that, but it's actually NOT unexplained, it's called "racism". They simply cannot back up ANYTHING they claim to believe in, because ITS ALL FAKE

[@lwells3937]

@@kfleming78 soo..I checked out your channel. Cool song, People are fake. That doesn't make Bill Moyers fake though. There's an old saying. People say what they are. Diaper Don does it all the time

[@singloc3021]

@@kfleming78 Did you just watch the same video? Moyers stated he is NOT a pessimist, so why would he leave America?

[@eileenmc4746]

Bill Moyers like Ralph Nader or Chris Hedges are National Treasures that should be elevated boices just like suppressed Chomsky and Snowden

[@kurtdunbar912]

Bill Moyers is nothing less than a national treasure. His words are golden and true, which is a rarity in journalism and politics alike these days.

[@j.d.schultzsr.9215]

@Ash Hegde, You are either much too young, not paying attention or just deiberately ignorant. I remember what an excellent speech writer Mr. Moyers was during the Kennedy Administration. His Bill Moyers Journal TV show was superb at uncovering the outrages of government corruption. The last Moyers documentary I saw was how ALEC (the American Legislative Exchange Committee) has permeated and corrupted American Government at federal, state and local levels. Too bad you find learning how your government ACTUALLY works "boring."

[@ferrugoog]

When citizens see that the rule of law does not extend to politicians, corporations, and the rich, then we have lost the rule of law, and anarchy will ensue.

[@Damacles9]

One economic calamity from civil disaster nowadays....

[@sableminer8133]

I'd even add it's way overdue!

[@sinequanon5586]

"Nothing can destroy a government more quickly than its failure to observe its own laws, or worse, its disregard of the charter of its own existence. .... "Our Government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. . . . If the Government becomes a lawbreaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy." " Mapp v. Ohio, 367 U.S. 643 (1961)

[@ey67]

True. It's here.

[@dianabraley8307]

So true- we already have no true rule of law in this country. It’s a society which punishes petty crime but never white collar crime at least not for a long time.

[@weston.weston]

I am a huge Bill Moyers fan, I greatly appreciate his journalism.

[@aliwright1016]

One of my favourites. Amazing quote after the 4 minute mark on the reality of slavery, the schools, the press, politics and the pulpit.

[@ronsnow402]

Notice, this is a smoke screen by the government to prevent a actual Coup. Both political parties are corrupt. Congress members are worried that a revolution could happen do to polarization. But they also feed the polarization every chance they get, when cameras are on them. Both sides. Every year they promise to break up the tech monopolies, yet nothing ever happens, instead tech monopoly stocks rise, & A.I driven social polarization continues, to increase Ad revenue. Congress "Debates" have become the outrage content for tech monopolies to recommend & herd more American people into fringe political insanity, to increase Ad revenue... Congress & Big Tech has clearly become the number 1 enemy of the American people. Congress is a corrupt organization, & is parasitic to our system, a clear national security threat that must be dealt with.

[@catchingthemoon]

I only discovered him recently, when I watched his interview with Joseph Campbell. I was so sad that it took me so long. Wonderful, both of them.

[@Sleepy_Alligator]

@@catchingthemoon The interview with Joe Campbell is amazing on several levels. Two very intelligent men having a deep, wide ranging discussion on mythology philosophy, within a context of today's modern society, so fascinating.

[@roxannehale1386]

Find the Moyers report "Moyers on Democracy".

[@brendamcd704]

Excellent discussion. I agree, Mr.Moyer, that we need a mass mobilization that insists on full accountability for all involved in Jan 6. However, I am dismayed that at this point ( a year later ) we are just learning the details about the deep involvement of elected officials. I trying to be hopeful that our system of justice will prevail and I certainly hope elected officials will be held to a higher standard and if convicted, carry maximum sentences for their involvement ( I just heard the AG's statements today). I guess I'm feeling somewhat vindictive but this has been so traumatic. Also, America urgently needs to restore American Civics in all school curriculums.

[@derrytaylor7417]

I share Your sentiments. Thank You.

[@Jimmy1982Playlists]

That's not feeling vindictive... it's merely wanting accountability and the rule of law to apply to the most powerful in the country as to the rest of us.

[@patshelby9285]

@@SusanKay- I do not doubt your words. I am hoping to see it take plàce before I pass.

[@MC-fj3zz]

@Zohar Zisapel I think you need to review your understanding. Not certain you can support your statement. Any connection between the two is minuscule at best.

[@AmanpourandCompany]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

[@poigmhahon]

awesome conversation, bone chilling when Bill Moyers reads the news clippings. Kathleen Belew is concise and insightful. Weird crossroads for country.

[@AmanpourandCompany]

Thank you for your thoughtful comment.

[@elenalatici9568]

God, I love hearing that brilliant, wise voice. Stay with us for a long time, Bill Moyers. We've never needed more than we do now.

[@Spiral.Dynamics]

If he is not held accountable he will do it again.

[@venanziocalise946]

Yes Trump will.

[@onomatopoeia162003]

Put it that way. Like I said throughout the video. That "side" is the old Confederacy. They were the conservatives of that era. They are still triggered 162 years later....

[@leongardner710]

Exactly 💯

[@ottomeyer6928]

He's forgotten He did it the first time

[@jozefkovac6858]

IMHO unless everyone who is claiming the election was stolen is challenged on their social media/tv/radio to dispute their claims, the division of the US might only to continue.

[@tomt55]

It's interesting that with all the talk about democracy in this video, there is a complete absence of any discussion about how the super concentration of wealth and political power has greatly accelerated under capitalism during the past half century in the USA. Without addressing the political economy, capitalism, which has given enormous and unequal political and economic power to a tiny number of elites in this country, this type of instability can only get worse. A society must be created where regular people and planet come first.

[@patshelby9285]

Agreed.

[@mvann5]

Citizens United played a big part of money corrupting politics.

[@CS-tj1jz]

Agreed. There's a lot of talk of saving democracy in America but democracy wasn't working very well for the majority, which is what Trump exploited. Democrats have to talk more openly about getting the $$ out of politics and fixing democracy not just protecting what was the status quo.

[@tomt55]

@@CS-tj1jz Chomsky put it best in the must see documentary Requiem For The American Dream, when he said (I'm paraphrasing) the current system is an attack on the 'residue' of democracy.

[@barrysnyder930]

And she’s from the university of Chicago which primarily started all this crap back in the 70s and 80s

[@proudhammer62]

Good to see and hear Professor Belew.

[@totonow6955]

@@TRUTHorSTFU not at all what I had meant... I was confused about her name and deleted my comment when I realized my mistake. What are you talking about? Troll?

[@TRUTHorSTFU]

@@totonow6955 You are clueless that you're clueless! SAD.

[@hyseize]

If only there was something in The Constitution (like the 14th Amendment, Sec 3) that could deal with people who "aid & comfort insurrectionists" who are now "unqualified to hold public office". OH, that's right, we do & should use it! ASAP!

[@OneAdam12Adam]

Thank you! Get your neighbors and friends together and DEMAND that these laws are enforced!

[@erikthueson2691]

Our founding fathers were insurrectionists.

[@hyseize]

@@erikthueson2691 What a lousy defense. The difference being that the Fathers were seeking liberty, freedom, democracy. The GOP insurrectionists were seeking FASCISM. Only a brainwashed dupe would believe otherwise.

[@photonjones5908]

Who would enact and enforce that, the SCOTUS? the Senate? The select commitee? The DOJ? Where is the lever to apply that power? What forces will be marshalled against its spplication? And who will prove the stronger, that's what I wonder.

[@hyseize]

@@photonjones5908 If the Dems would just grow a spine & use the bold action they claim is necessary to protect democracy, here's what needs to be done: 1) The overwhelming majority of the Majority Party in Congress (there will always be a couple of gullible or greedy holdouts) must certify that the GOP is now a Domestic Terrorist Organization bent on destroying democracy & worthy of immediate expulsion from American politics, elections & governing. 2) The Executive Branch must confirm this is true & issue an Executive Order immediately barring the "participation" of anything GOP. 3) If any case immediately comes up before the SCOTUS, Justice Thomas & the 3 Justices seated by the 45th must recuse themselves. 4) The first bill passed by what remains of Congress should be HR1

[@JesusSaysMAGAtrashMAGAfilth]

*Remember when Republicans used to have ethics, integrity, honor and respected our Constitution?* *Yeah, me neither.*

[@lindas.martin2806]

I certainly do remember, and hope to see it again, and think it is time for new parties to enter our politics. Trumpism in my mind is a terrorist organization/ideology. We need to have Civics in all schools, mandatory, starting in elementary school. Adult voters are simply ignorant now.

[@davidpomeroy8165]

Maybe some did when Eisenhower was President. 1952-1960.

[@jhgust]

@@davidpomeroy8165 My thoughts exactly!

[@Festus-kw1rw]

Remember when democrats had a brain

[@katherinejones850]

Ike?

[@joannebattersby8365]

There could be a stampede for the 49th Parallel in the future. Americans can also find themselves refugees. As can any of us. It seems that there is no knowing these days. In Canada I feel that we are worried for our cousins to the south.

[@robertjohnston8876]

From Canada We must not let Trumpism get into our Country Good luck Bill and Kathleen

[@dianemitchell1717]

I have already thought of moving to Canada but a dictatorship in the USA might rescind my pension. I feel trapped. Thank you for your concern and well wishes. I also fear for Canada in the future having a dictatorship on its southern border if that comes to pass.

[@cwsblue6446]

The only problem in USA is the electoral crap, if you want real democracy, popular (the vote of the entire volk) should be the only vote that is valid.

[@skyjuiceification]

the eIect0raI crap came fr0m racism! s0 there are quite bit m0re pr0bIems than we want to admit n0w isn't there?

[@blueclover9918]

It's not the only problem, but we desperately need one vote = one person.

[@barbaracohen-ehrlich8383]

How shameful that only one Republican showed up today. They have no shame.

[@JesusSaysMAGAtrashMAGAfilth]

*Non-Deplorable (decent and honorable) Americans will NEVER FORGET January 6, 2021*

[@norag8265]

Who needs to forget? Republicans are ignoring it, and manipulating voting systems state by state

[@kevinjenner9502]

Chile..Cuidado...CIA...9/11/73...Nunca Olvides

[@michaelkurutz2055]

What do you mean by NEVER FORGET?

[@jorgegonzalez-larramendi5491]

yeah our hell gift on The Epiphany... demonic enough for you?

[@moonie9000]

We'll also never forget how the DNC literally cheated Bernie Sanders and got away with it. Both parties are a shitshow of corruption.

[@SeaGullArt]

Thank you Amanpour and Company for producing this program about defending Democracy.

[@stevec3872]

When you fight honorably and fairly while the other side fights a street fight with no rules, how does that usually turn out?

[@angusmacfrankenstein7227]

Gotta have rules: if we don't, what matters?

[@andyc3012]

Oh stop it. Everyday was Trump is a peace of shit day from 2015 till 2020.. Bullshit hit piece everyday.. Remeber what happen when Trump won? The streets of NYC got flood for days... business got shut down... it was worst then Jan.6

[@JesusSaysMAGAtrashMAGAfilth]

*To upset a Liberal...tell them a lie.* *To upset a MAGAfan...tell them the truth.*

[@Rob-zr3wb]

How would anyone even know? Nothing coming from the Democratic politicians convey any truth.

[@roystonmason9125]

@@Rob-zr3wb magats don't speak

[@jhgust]

@@Rob-zr3wb You forgot to take your meds!!!

[@catchingthemoon]

LoL you're the pudding!!

[@roystonmason9125]

@@AlaricTheArcane kkk granny

[@ronaldronald8819]

Fantastic that you invited Bill Moyers. One of the few journalist i kind of trust. .. Bill if you read this Thanks for the interview you did with Josep Campbell. The slide of democracy i find a unsettling and dangerous development.

[@catchingthemoon]

That is one of the most amazing interviews I have ever watched and continue to watch.

[@ronaldronald8819]

@@catchingthemoon Bill has an incredibly rich track record. Genius level journalism.

[@kenlabowe]

So looking forward to watching this documentary ... I really have missed Bill Moyers weekly programs on PBS. Bravo!

[@JesusSaysMAGAtrashMAGAfilth]

*Thank you, President Biden!* *Non-Deplorable (decent and honorable) Americans know that you are trying to clean up DumbDonald's enormous messes.*

[@jmazz1127]

Funny how not one person in the woke mob is for Trump. Funny how all the rioting, burning and looting was all done by liberal democrats hhhhmmmmmmmm

[@derrytaylor7417]

@@jmazz1127 After centuries of Lynchings, I think they got mad. Hmmmmmm

[@mkaberli]

Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye. You're nothing buy a foolish hypocrite. People like you just love to see the flaws in others, but you constantly fail to see the flaws in yourself. Grow up and start holding the feet of ALL politicians to the fire.

[@JesusSaysMAGAtrashMAGAfilth]

@@nightoftheworld _"doesn’t seem like something Jesus would say at all"_ Jesus was a fictional character in a fairy tale, MAGAdumdum. Grow up.

[@nightoftheworld]

@@JesusSaysMAGAtrashMAGAfilth Bernie voter actually. And it doesn’t matter if he was fictional or not, the story of his ministry was and is very real and it’s ethical constellations helped guide modern democratic society into existence. Jesus was a radical feminist of his day, who broke the chains of his father and took it upon himself to absorb the suffering this world to bring others into the fullness of life. You would rather be an antagonist and create pain it seems.. uncool

[@zipdotdash]

we need more people like Bill Moyers

[@GlobeHackers]

It's great to hear from Bill Moyers again. I have missed his voice and sober, earnest analysis.

[@prashanttayshetye8469]

I cannot believe America is going through this 😳. We take democracy for granted. This is awful that this discussion is even happening

[@andreac6024]

Believe it! This is sadly only appetizer

[@JoelApplegate]

We always knew Bill Moyers is top of his class, but I'm very impressed with Prof Belew as well.

[@wizquinn8021]

It starts by teaching the TRUE history of the U.S. to our future generations and not by some pro -anglo motivated writers. It starts by teaching the TRUE history of the Christian religion and not by some biased religious writers.

[@matthewkopp2391]

I agree that religious and civic history can be better taught. But doing so should not result in the stupid iconoclasm we see today. There are thousands of interpretations of Christianity both today and historically. That is one of the best aspects of Christianity, it is how we gained Freedom of and freedom from religion. It was expressed by John Locke who worked with the Huguenots, and then adopted by Thomas Jefferson. Out of the tragedy of the Huguenots arose many of our most basic civil liberties. But today because Jefferson own slaves, his statue is torn down, the iconoclasts seem not to understand that he was historically one of the greatest defender of freedom from and freedom to practice religion and tolerance as well as a secular liberal legal tradition. I grew up in the United Church of Christ which is one of the more progressive denominations. Bill Moyers is a member. The Church was a leader in the interfaith movement which I always thought was a very positive movement. Perhaps the shadow side of that tolerance was that of not confronting other churches as some became more and more profane. And they called the UCC profane and heretical for being tolerant and accepting. What I have found is that many of the more radical church‘s don’t read the Bible or understand church history at all, or the many interpretations. Yes, there are dark chapters of Christian history. But some of the deeper lessons come out of erased triumphs such as Rev. Robert Rauschenbush who ended child labor, Rev. Paul Tillich and other Germans who stood up against the Nazi, Martin Luther King Jr. Civil Rights movement, not to mention things like the abolitionists. In 1900 most mainline churches were progressive and accepted science. Literalist fundamentalism was a reactionary movement of the 1920‘s expressed then most notably in the Scopes Monkey Trial. They darker chapters should be taught for the sake of greater discernment. But there is also an appreciation which is also sorely lacking by the general population as well.

[@wizquinn8021]

@@matthewkopp2391 Very well spoken and I agree with you. Unfortunately, with so many interpretations along the the many different bible versions, commentaries, study bibles, etc , it leaves room for misinterpretation. Basically, Christianity becomes " a God of your own understanding" as spoken by Bill W. (AA). creating an interpretation of God to meet your wants and needs. Thank you for your research.

[@hhheee3939]

We have to fight honorably, we have to fight fairly, but we have to fight fiercely to make sure that flag and all it represents... doesnt take root

[@1970joedub]

The ground work has already been laid out and implemented. His team is refining the tactics of the next coup.

[@jorgegonzalez-larramendi5491]

you mean kgbputin? and/or rbbbmurky And rasputin ?

[@oliviaturner7388]

Exactly!

[@andyc3012]

-.- when trump won 2016.. the amount of people protested trump tower was way more then jan. 6. Jan 6 is just another false flag event to increase the police state.. And the dem deserve so much worst for holding out the stim check and unemployment boost.

[@OneAdam12Adam]

What are we going to do about this? Just sit back and comment or take to the streets and show our officials that we want the maximum punishments for the insurgents! Minimum 20 years! Or just shoot them to the moon!

[@OneAdam12Adam]

@@andyc3012 Somewhere in the world there's a tree dedicated to providing the oxygen that you waste. Find it and apologize.

[@isaiahberlin37]

The Democrats in Congress need to listen to this and stand up for our democratic institutions.

[@charlesbeaudry3263]

But of course they wont.

[@charlesbeaudry3263]

@Ash Hegde Private Property has nothing to do with Democracy. They had all kinds of private property in Nazi Germany. Some Socialist states do not encourage private property. Personally I think private property is good within limits because it encourages thrift and discipline but can also lead to monopolies and must therefore be monitored.

[@j.d.schultzsr.9215]

@@charlesbeaudry3263, By saying "they won't", you show your true colors as a brainwashed sceptic. A bill was introduced to form a Jan. 6 committee of bipartisan FORMER house members, who have no dogs in the fight. Of course the repubs turned it down. The Senate Repubs voted to NOT EVEN DISCUSS Jan 6. Speaker Pilosi tried to form a bi-partisan investigative committee and McCarthy tried to send his impeachment-vet pitbulls to sandbag and sabatoge it. If you've been paying attention lately, you've seen several interviews with Adam Kinzinger (R-Ill), who said that the committee is very bi-partisan. However, if Speaker Pilosi hadn't put Kinziger and Liz Cheney (R-Wyoming) on the select committee it would be totally Democrats and may not have existed at all. In interviews, Kinzinger not only spoke about how it feels to be one in 200 Republicans to stand up to the insurrectionists and their corporate, government, and possibly foreign sponsors.

[@sidgarrett7247]

All true American people and politicians need to hear and heed this. Save America!

[@BrianMorisky]

Too busy fundraising off 1/6.

[@Kritiker313]

It's wonderful seeing Bill Moyers back in the spotlight.

[@Xlr8ive]

Amazing seeing this, way to go Kathleen Belew!

[@larrypapadakis5147]

Thank you to all three of you.

[@blammers]

250 years ago Americans fought to get rid of a king, now today they are fighting to install one.

[@ey67]

True

[@shawbrothers18]

the irony

[@josecosta2008]

If democracy continues to delivery mass inequalities, where ordinary people thrives so hard to pay their bills, then it will easily fall in the hands of opportunists and no one will rise a finger to defend it. Democracy matters for those who do not need to worry for next five years or so. The others who don´t know how tosurvive next mont, it is just an accessory

[@ndinethamsanqa]

Professor Belew is right on; what she says here should be made required listening...

[@ganamoneyeccles6683]

Bill Moyers thank you for making us aware,we are still in danger.

[@badbill6492]

I love Bill Moyers message about our democracy

[@musicoyque]

Watching the events taking place on January 6th I am not ashamed to admit that my shock soon turned to an overwhelming sadness that brought me to tears.

[@lightball1414]

The insurrectionists should also be charged with defacing the American flag!

[@greenhometony]

That flag in the capitol was a road too far...

[@cipherklosenuf9242]

Remember when taking a knee during the Star Spangled Banner was considered horribly treacherous though it was non-violently raising awareness to call for legal reforms. Now wearing it as a cape or using it as a weapon to beat police…eh that’s OK. I have a lot of respect for Republicans who have kept their oaths and stood up to MAGA cult populism.

[@cipherklosenuf9242]

@@SusanKay- Agreed.

[@patshelby9285]

@@cipherklosenuf9242 there are some brave honest decent people who once called themselves republicans. And possibly still do, needing a better term which is lacking.

[@patshelby9285]

@@SusanKay- it was a shot across the bow of our ship of state. Once considered a declaration of was, making them enemy combatants.

[@OneAdam12Adam]

Thank you for getting Bill Moyers and other greats to come out and express their outage!

[@berthabridges3483]

We are totally traumatized. We never thought this would happen in our country. We fell asleep, and wolves came into conservative churches in sheepskin. We never saw them coming or took them seriously. Obviously this present darkness has it's roots from Charlottesville when Trump said, "there are good people on both sides." That was the start of these group's becoming mainline. Trump invited them to become his army. That's what they thought he called them to Washington, DC for, "fight like hell." They were shocked when they found they'd be no pardons for them. There is hope because we'll be ready next time.

[@grantsmythe8625]

You are so right. Conservative Christianity has lost its way and is drowning in idolatry and darkness. Conservative Christianity is very, very far from Goodness, Light and Truth. There is nothing anyone can do for them but you can do something for yourself: stay away from Evangelicals, never lose sight of what you know is true. Live in the Light.

[@dawnoceanside7300]

Where were you when Obama was President? Under a rock? 🤭🤪🤣

[@grantsmythe8625]

@@TreeSymphony52 Whether or not they support the insurrection there are 74 million who support the man who tried to overthrow the government and make himself dictator. You need to take a ride down through the Deep South and observe the rank ignorance, gullibility, resentment, superstition and White Supremacy that passes itself off as "Christianity". Watch a video from Pastor Greg Locke. His type of "Christianity" saturates the South from Texas to Kentucky to Virginia/West Virginia to the Carolinas to Florida. Southern Evangelicalism is a sickness.

[@lauraw.7008]

@@grantsmythe8625 let’s remember that intellectuals will lose ground if people in the middle and south of our nation believe they are being looked down upon.

[@lauraw.7008]

Many people who call themselves “evangelical” are really Leviticans, not Christians.

[@jameshood1928]

Always a pleasure to hear from Mr. Moyers. Our democracy clearly is on life support. Many ordinary citizens would like it to end in favor of a more authoritarian government, which is the real danger facing us. Democracy is fragile and the GOP is determined to alter its structure.

[@seanm4095]

Alter they want to flat out obilerate it. They see Democarcy as Commuism! The right is crazy!0

[@JesusSaysMAGAtrashMAGAfilth]

*Thank you for getting America out of Afghanistan, President Biden!* *Too bad DumbDonald couldn't do that.*

[@Rob-zr3wb]

Americans are still stranded in Afghanistan. Assuming you don’t know that of course.

[@JesusSaysMAGAtrashMAGAfilth]

@@Rob-zr3wb Debunked, MAGAloser. Try again. And grow up.

[@jhgust]

@@Rob-zr3wb You forgot to take your meds!!!

[@kevinjenner9502]

And thanks to the Pentagon, military, US Intel., politicians etc for saying one thing publicly, and something quite different privately for the last 20 years.

[@theresapelham1918]

That was very well spoken. And Hari you are amazing...great interview all

[@AmanpourandCompany]

Thank you for your thoughtful comment.

[@redbarchetta8782]

Please kick the fascist trolls off your threads. Thank you.

[@raymondmiller2182]

The great Bill Moyers still sharp as a tack looking healthy and strong.GOD bless you.

[@sharonhearne5014]

Americans deserve a comprehensive current political film/video presentation - with critical examples fleshed out - where U.S. citizens are compelled to look ahead to what factionalized tribalism will do to EVERYONE in America.

[@katherinejones850]

And the regimentation autocracy requires! They think mask or vaccination mandates are overreaching!

[@hadara69]

“Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them.” ~Barry Goldwater

[@treefrog3349]

I wish that America was populated with the heart and mind of Bill Moyers. Sadly, We the People have become just the opposite. I am actually content to be an old man. Just watching what America has become in the 72 years of my existence makes my morbidly ashamed. When you compare "what we might have been" to what we sadly ARE at this present moment is a tragedy of Shakespearean - no - truly COSMIC proportions. Perhaps Darwin was more prescient than anyone ever knew.

[@Paufit]

you may like Mike Malloy here is recent one kzbin.info/www/bejne/kGS3Y6ibgZtnqdU

[@ey67]

True. I'm 72. Been watching this slow moving catastrophe as well. Glad I'll be dead soon

[@dhoffman4955]

Too much focus on Trump and not enough on the alt right media that opened the way for him to become president

[@trishakoury-stoops2372]

I hope that Bill Moyers does a tick tock and tweet reading of the warnings

[@johnthoreson8775]

From the MC to her guests... Impeccable journalism.

[@JesusSaysMAGAtrashMAGAfilth]

*What is Donny Fail-Fail trying to hide, hmmm?* Must be something terrible.

[@nickismith4787]

Love Bill Moyers! So nice to see him again.

[@dirkgonthier101]

When I hear all of this as a European, I'm sure grateful that I don't belong to the Anglos-Saxon world, that we have evolved passed the majority vote (we once had it in the past) and that we have evolved passed the two party system (we once had it in the past), which is so characteristic for the Anglo-Saxon world (that doesn't want to adjust its societies as better ideas emerge). It's way more difficult to create such a schism in European politics (because we have more parties, so the blame can't be directed against one party and aiming it against every party makes you sound a bit ridiculous), we work with coalition governments (so no Trump can do what he wants to, he's held in check by his coalition party(ies)) and we don't have such a useless politicization of of everything (a.o. our juridical system, our school-boards, our Covid vaccinations, ...). The divisions in our societies are never so outspoken as in the Anglo-Saxon world.

[@deadman746]

When you speak of evolving past the majority vote, are you referring to the Parliamentary system? Duverger pointed out three-quarters of a century ago that a first-past-the-post system, which the U.S. has, will overwhelmingly tend to create a two-party system. (India may be an exception, as there is a plethora of parties, but it is parliamentary.) Nietzsche pointed out that even a five-party system had the problem of Procrusteanism, that then therefore five opinions will be socially acceptable, but anything that deviates from those five will be unacceptable. Even given that, two parties are especially problematic, especially because game theory shows that they will tend to be as close as possible to get votes. Still, I'd like to know if there is anything I missed. How exactly do you think your system has evolved past the majority vote?

[@dirkgonthier101]

@@deadman746 Well, I don't see things as complicated as you. But the Anglo-Saxon model of majority vote (which means that if a party wins in a certain area (constituency or state) that that party automatically gets all the electoral votes of that area: you can loose with 49% vs 51% then those 49% are votes which don't make a difference in determining the electoral votes of that area) was the first way of democracy. So, the whole world copied it. But, as time went by, the proportional system was invented (where those 49% gave you the right of having 49% of the electoral votes of that area and the 51% gave you the right to 51% of the electoral votes) and the continent Europe changed their constitutions to allow this new idea to take place. So, Europe was once ruled by the same majority vote as the Anglo-Saxon world, but as soon as there was invented the proportional system, we changed to the proportional system. And, given the difficulties USA-democracy (and English democracy) experiences with a fascist leader like Trump, the benefits of the proportional system (with multiple parties and coalition governments) are becomming more and more clear. I hope you can understand my explanation a bit, 'cause talking about subjects as these is a lot harder than having a normal conversation in English...

[@artman2119]

“The Anglo-Saxon world” you reference is global, therefore, you are under its hegemony. The sun still doesn’t set on The British Empire. English is the world’s most taught second-language for functional reasons hardly different from unpretentious “loyalists” storming the US Capital Building or New York liberals tolerating mass incarceration and the opioid crisis. The angst has always been how to have one’s cake and eat it too.

[@dirkgonthier101]

@@artman2119 LMAO!!! Yeah, I'm truly under its hegemony! LMAO!!! English replaced French, which replaced Latin and English will be replaced by Chinese or by some other language. So what? The sun doesn't set on the French empire, on the Spanish empire, on the Dutch empire and on the Portugese empire. There are way more people that talk Spanish than there are that talk English. I know this will be a shock for you, but there are way, way more people that doesn't talk English as that talk English. What I miss is how 'exceptional' the Anglo-Saxon culture is. That would make whole your explanation completely ludicrous! LMAO!!! :))))))))

[@ThePapawhisky]

It’s been a year. Where is the national legal structure that protects voting rights, election officials, and election certification?? Ditch the filibuster and make laws that protect democracy and citizens.

[@ey67]

Can't do that. Both parties are corrupt. They won't turn on the Republicons. Too many bribes, extort ion, threats, perks, backstabbing, insider trading, etc etc that would mess up their partying.

[@deloreswillis9224]

Very TRUE

[@alisonburgess345]

So much talking and hand wringing in the US. Trump's phone call with Raffensperger should have seen Trump jailed. This is going to happen to you again and again at this rate.

[@katherinejones850]

Cowards will not hold that sonuvabitch accountable!

[@constancemccrary988]

Thank you for this truth. I've seen it happening for awhile...but why don't others. When I share this with friends and family they think I'm an alarmist. I hope seeing Bill Moyers continuing to enlighten us with the reality of right now, as he always does, will spur the moderate middle sane citizens to keep democracy alive. Thank you, AandCo, again.

[@JesusSaysMAGAtrashMAGAfilth]

*How is that Arizona "audit" coming along, MAGAfans?* 😂😂😂😂

[@keithwolfson9672]

Bill Moyer said that United states citizens need to mobilize to defend the constitution. The correct statement is that United States citizens need to mobilize to change your constitution. It is the constitution that gives Republican states the right to create non-proportionate voting power. It is the constitution that gives Republican legislatures the right to overrule their voters in a Presidential election. It is the constitution that creates inter-state inequality by ensuring poor states have poor education and poor healthcare outcomes and wealthy states have good education and good healthcare outcomes.

[@francesj.jenson6698]

Outstanding interview, enlightening and sobering.

[@MariaGarcia-by8yg]

💗Thank you Mr. Moyers.

[@tlgoody]

It seems that a lot of people understand what's happening. But there is no traction in doing something to stop it. I feel like I'm watching a slow moving train wreck.

[@ey67]

You are. We have the best politicians money can buy on both sides. Adjusted for inflation, of course.

[@lindas.martin2806]

if there is another insurrection, I certainly hope our armed forces are better prepared and that our CIA and police are empowered to stop Republican members of Congress involved in the insurrection immediately. This lawlessness MUST STOP!

[@katherinejones850]

Tooooo many people in government are complicit or favor autocracy!

[@kevinjenner9502]

CIA coups removing democratically elected leaders around the world. Iran, Guatemala, Congo, Dominican Republic, S. Vietnam, Brazil, Chile, etc. The CIA are the Coup Masters.

[@ey67]

Half of them are on the trumpster dumpster side. Wake up. Flynn, other generals, Police, veterans, where have you been.

[@piercebales9546]

Optimism is when your perspective on circumstances leads you to believe that things will urn out alright. I just feel that another Trumpy presidency would be so horrific and destructive that the people who pick the president and make the important decisions will refrain from putting the world through the toxic slime of another Donnie mess.

[@Rob-zr3wb]

Yes I think we are all glad we voted for a president who destroyed the oil and gas industry and created massive inflation, created a border crisis with record amounts of drugs that are killing our citizens, a disaster with stranding civilians in Afghanistan, botched COVID response and record number of murders in 2021. All of this was accomplished in less than a year, I’m looking forward to the next 3 years of similar accomplishments to come. All our praise to President Geriatric. Let’s go Brandon!

[@greenhometony]

@@Rob-zr3wb nothing happens that quickly in this country, you are seeing the results of mango mussolini

[@jhgust]

@@Rob-zr3wb You forgot to take your meds!!!

[@Rob-zr3wb]

@@greenhometony your response is “nothing happens that quickly?” He did act quickly and the negative consequences followed accordingly. This is fact not opinion.

[@Patrick_Ross]

@@Rob-zr3wb - are the nurses in your ward aware that you are using their workstations to access the Internet?

[@jamesgribble4415]

I really miss Bill Moyers. He was always open with thought from various views. I've seen him interview people whose views he opposed, but he was always diplomatic and courteous when questioning and discussing their views. We need more men and women of his character that desire to see our country be its best. The public needs to listen to him and the professor.

[@internationaltax7708]

My parents' generation fought Hitler and the Nazis in Europe and the Pacific. (I'm old like Moyers) I fear my kids's generation will have to fight them here. Side notes: that professor uses long sentences and large words to say little. The Constitution prohibits the states from maintaining armies, yet many are; enforcement is needed.

[@Aristotle2000]

There is very, very little on WHAT we should do when we actually live in a Trumpian authoritarian society. Should we flee? Should we stay? How can we resist? Who will go to the gulag?

[@debbiefinney1630]

I worry about this part everyday.

[@Aristotle2000]

@@debbiefinney1630 Me too. There's a significant chance it will happen, and throughout history when it does, things can go very badly very quickly.

[@patshelby9285]

The last thing we should do is give them what they want. While they may be earning their stripes in hell, I would be relieved if they could be an example of the rewards of their perfidy before others choose to follow them

[@mauracassidy1762]

TRUMP CANNOT WIN - IF AMERICANS WHO BELIEVE IN DEMOCRACY - GO AND VOTE ! REMEMBER TRUMP AND HIS * FASCIST FRIENDS ARE IN THE MINORITY ! BUT IT IS CRUCIAL TO THE SURVIVAL OF AMERICAN DEMOCRACY THAT DEMOCRATS WIN IN THE 2022 MIDTERMS AND IN THE 2024 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION. PLEASE VOTE DEMOCRAT UP AND DOWN THE BALLOT - DO NOT ALLOW ANY REPUBLICANS TO WIN ANY SEATS BECAUSE THEY HAVE PROVEN THEMSELVES TO SHOW THEIR ALLEGIANCE TO TRUMP AND NOT TO THE DEMOCRATIC UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. THE OTHER THING WHICH IS HUGELY IMPORTANT IS TO JOIN LOCAL GOVERNMENT BOARDS - SUCH AS SCHOOL BOARDS etc AS THIS IS WHAT REPUBLICANS ARE DOING TO GAIN CONTROL OF KEY LOCAL GOVERNMENT DEPARTMENTS. TRUMP AND HIS * FASCIST CULT SUPPORTERS ARE IN THE MINORITY - WHICH IS WHY THEY LOST THE 2020 ELECTION. EVERY PERSON ELIGIBLE TO VOTE MUST VOTE DEMOCRAT FOR EVERY SEAT / EVERY OFFICE WHICH IS UP FOR ELECTION - "THE LINCOLN PROJECT" AND OTHERS ARE WORKING TO BOTH WARN AND TO MOTIVATE VOTERS AT THIS TIME AND TO MAKE CLEAR THAT THE OUTCOME OF EVERY ELECTION BOTH LOCAL AND NATIONAL CAN HELP PRESERVE OR HELP DESTROY AMERICAN DEMOCRACY - THE VOTERS DECIDE ! ( DEFINITION OF * FASCISM = THE CULT OF THE LEADER )

[@Aristotle2000]

@@mauracassidy1762 it is quite possible that lots of Democrats will stay home and Trump will get an office. It is also possible that someone other than Trump from the GOP that is equally trumpian could win. Nothing would surprise me.

[@jeffs4483]

Democracy or Oligarchy?

[@jerrylumpy5141]

I have watched Bill Moyers on PBS for years. The guest were wonderful and the insight into America was breathtaking.

[@michaelr1221]

" Democracy is an aspiration, and it is defenseless against people who use it in bad faith. " Masha Gessen January 2017

[@ey67]

True

[@debrakron9049]

The problem is that government hasn’t worked for the common people for many years! I think democracy is worth saving, but you can see why many people don’t. They see government favoring the rich and powerful. Corporate welfare abounds while the common folk are told their inability to get rich is because they’re lazy.

[@terryferrer9645]

Memo to Democrats and Independents: When one's opponents are cheating, only a fool plays by the rules!

[@photonjones5908]

So the win matters more than how you play the game? is that what you are saying? Doing that means we are no different than them. I'm not saying you're wrong, but if we do that, then they are no longer cheating... they have changed the rules by which the game is played, and that is the win they really wanted! I think this is why democracy doesn't seem to endure. They are ruled by a mob after all.

[@momofnine199]

Excellent discussion. Thank you all for your intelligent contributions for us, the listeners.

[@pattirockgarden4423]

This was a great show! Thank you so much!

[@RonaldPetrin]

“Thirty time winner”, Bill Moyers was calling injustices out his entire career a lone voice whom I feel was not heard as he was sounding the alarm…I feel/felt at times as if I was the only one who was listening, on so many issues from Cancer Alley to I’m sorry you were so mistreated targeted in my opinions, just for providing US what we really needed to hear. Bill I shuddered with you… Thank you for your service, you are loved. A long time fan always. People finally are following suit. “A sense of belonging to an effort that we can govern ourselves.” Damn it was great to hear from you bro!😊 You are still a guiding light, like Bernie Sanders thank you. Please stay in the light and share your wisdom any way you can. What about those Insurance companies and our health care system, gouging, fleecing of US in a rigged system? You were on the frontline and people like me took notice I miss your “NOW” points of view. “Pointing out the dangers onboard”, on and on it’s frightening…quite poignant. We are at a precipice Bill… Such warnings from the FBI are real… How a coup is still possible. PBS thank you.❤ Six days to go. Your Napoleon quote: “News from the front is good don’t wake me. If the news from the front is not good…wake me immediately”. Your assurance and hope, “Were gonna be okay”. ❤ God I hope you’re right. I’m sure you’re repeating this under your breath. Thank you, “y’all come back now you hear!”😊

[@leoscott2120]

I'm reminded of Orwell's "ignorance is strength" slogan from "1984.". I now have a greater appreciation for the wisdom behind the slogan. Trump has been masterful in manipulating the ignorant. Thats a large segment of our population.

[@SunShine-ij9yl]

The honesty is appreciated

[@denisedecarlo9311]

Put them in JAIL that's the problem...why is Bannon NOT IN Jail...

[@deborahedelman2659]

Simply excellent analysis about the threats to Democracy...we are in a very scary yimf in history!

[@John-cg1ex]

Walter Laqour, the historian said of Germany in the thirties, "you had to be a pessimist to survive."

[@vivekjain6895]

Has Moyers spoken out in defense of Julian Assange? If not, why not? Assange and Wikileaks did more to expose high level criminality and wrongdoing than Moyers and PBS have done in their entire existence.

[@paranoah1925]

To save American democracy, first solve the extreme financial inequality and stop calling people's wealth their 'worth'. When there is extreme inequality (real or perceived), people either scapegoat a community or the most ruthless group tries to destroy and capture the power structures. This is what is happening in India and the US. Also, violence will always prevail in an ego-driven society. This could be physical violence or oppression and highly unequal access to resources.

[@nancydouglas8772]

I hope your wrong about the evil prevailing

[@paranoah1925]

@@nancydouglas8772 I hope i am too

[@patshelby9285]

I am especially appreciative of your objection to the conflation of wealth and worth. Excellent point.

[@stevemcelmury4618]

Professor Belew & Bill Moyers are great! Thank you.

[@tirusew]

Nice to see Bill Moyers!

[@hadara69]

"The best weapon of a dictatorship is secrecy, but the best weapon of a democracy should be the weapon of openness." ~Niels Bohr

[@photonjones5908]

Neils Bohr was a physicist...the last people who should be consulted on politics. Secrecy is a powerful tool regardless who wields it!

[@hadara69]

@@photonjones5908 Genetic fallacy. Why do you think that insulting or otherwise dissing the person being quoted has ANY EFFECT on the power/truth of what is being said? Did you learn that shit from Creationists? Secrecy breeds Fascism in a supposed democracy. This is easy to prove even if your dog says it to you (and I’m guessing he’s the smarter one).

[@JukeboyJoeAxford]

14:30 Politicians and people of power in America live by different rules than average working Americans. Justice is blind/no one is above the law is a bad joke in America.

[@ey67]

True

[@anthonymervin4499]

I am getting closer to being able to access this program from outside the US. Yay!

[@outlaw-of-torn3548]

Could the fact that for years only a quarter of the electorate exercised their voting responsibility help precipitate the present threat to our democracy? Even in the election of 2020, with so much at stake, 80 million failed to weigh in and vote.

[@lauraw.7008]

wonder how many of those were in areas where there weren't enough polling places, and inadequate access to mail in ballots? Ah, that's not totally it. We have mail-in ballots for everyone, and we still have low voter turnout. Better than some states, but still... I also wonder how much of low turn-out is due to a sense of hopelessness, "It doesn't matter who is in office, I cannot get a job with an income that keeps up with inflation and allows me some time with my family."

[@ey67]

Because that know that both parties are corrupt, so why bother. Their vote is a waste of their time

[@rhwinner]

Stand up for America!

[@Me97202]

If this is indeed what happens in 2024…we had plenty of warning…then it’s what Americans deserve.

[@jenniferhampton5171]

What are we to do with this warning? Put out very strong opposite messaging? What about the "restorative revolution" instead. Positive life giving life affirming efforts.

[@josephphoenix1376]

Great to see Bill Moyers!

[@vegadon4112]

It's hard for people to govern themselves when they refuse to really see they self for what they are .

[@Me97202]

STOP asking this question! It’s OBVIOUS that a coup in 2024 is EXACTLY what’s happening. These discussions _should_ focus on WHAT we’re going to do about it!!