Billy Williams - Donald Sutherland's and Faye Dunaway's demands on 'Ordeal by Innocence' (130/172)

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Born in London in 1929, cinematographer Billy Williams shot more than 40 high profile films throughout his career, being nominated for an Oscar for ‘On Golden Pond’ and ‘Women in Love’, then winning the Oscar for ‘Gandhi’ in 1983. He received an OBE in 2009. [Listener: Neil Binney]
TRANSCRIPT: My next film was 'Ordeal by Innocence', Agatha Christie - a whodunit - which we shot in and around Dartmouth. Desmond Davis was the director, who was a camera operator, lovely man, and the lead actor, who was in nearly every scene, was Donald Sutherland, whom I'd previously worked with, he'd a small part in 'Billion Dollar Brain'. And prior to shooting the film we had a meeting with Donald and he said... he said, ‘I don't want to be shot with any wide-angle lenses’. And I said, ’Well, what do you call a wide en... angle? And he said, ’Anything wider than a 40’. And I said, ’But, you know, we're shooting a... a mystery thriller and we're on location in small rooms’, I said, ’You know, that's... that's going to be difficult not to shoot wider than a 40’. And he said, ’Well you know, as long as when you come closer, when you do the closer shots you don't use wide angles that'll... that’ll be alright’. And he said, ‘The other thing...’ he said, ‘I don't want any shots of me... of looking up at me; I don't want any low angles’. Well Donald is about 6'5"; he's one of the tallest actors I've worked with. And so that... I felt, well that... that's going to be tricky. But anyway.
The first day... the first shot of the first day is of Donald entering this house in Dartmouth with a package which contains an important prop. And he goes into the hallway, it's quite a large hallway with a circular table, and he places this package on the table and he starts to unwrap it. And he's with Annette Crosby who’s very short. Now because he was looking down, I set the camera looking up at no more than that angle on a 40. So we're inside this hallway, we bring him in the door and he puts the package down and he's looking down at the package and he starts to unwrap it. And this is the first setup and we rehearse it and straight away he said: Why have you got the camera looking up at me like this?’ And he went straight for the director. He said, ‘I thought we understood there were going to be no low angles’, and he really tore into poor Desmond Davis in a similar way that Katherine Hepburn had three or four years before. He didn't address me at all, he just went for Des... Desmond and he really upset him. And... and you know, it affected the rest of the movie because Des was really quite kind of unhappy and unsettled and... and it was a great shame. And the result was that... that quite frequently, Donald would come into the room on a shot and sit down so that the camera wasn't looking up at him. And I... I thought, I can't understand this but I had to live with it.
Well we had an extraordinary cast, Christopher Plummer, Ian McShane, Faye Dunaway, Sarah Miles. Now Faye Dunaway whom I'd worked with a few years previously on 'Voyage of the Damned' was playing Sarah Miles' mother-in-law, but they're about the same age, so... no sorry her stepmother not her mother-in-law, she was playing her stepmother, but they were about the same age. And Faye wanted to look as young as possible, she'd got the same make up man that she'd had for several years. And she was made up to look as young as possible. And it was just out of character. And she did something that had never happened to me before on a set or since; she had to move around the room in various positions and I received instructions via the makeup man that wherever she was, she was only to be lit with front light so that she was facing the light which is the most flattering light. And that there was to be no cross light and no three quarter backlight hitting her face, so everything that might cause that, had to be flagged. Which of course made it much more complicated. So I lit the set and she came on to do the final rehearsal and she walked round the set with a mirror and checked her position to see that every lamp was, you know, where it should be. And I thought: oh this is ridiculous, but had to go along with it. It was made by some producers called Golan and Globus and they'd spent a fortune on the cast, not very much money on the script or the props, and after we’d finished the film they found it was too short. See, it had to be 90 minutes or something to qualify for certain feature status and it was a few minutes short. And so they had to go back later with another unit which I couldn't be part of because I was somewhere else to shoot some extra scenes. It was quite a good story and... you know, it was a very good cast, it was some good stuff in it and Dartmouth was a wonderful location.

[@MeBeTheDB]

I LUCKED OUT .... and worked with the wondrous Mr. Williams back in the mid-80's. He was smart, funny and taught me some very wise things about being a cinematographer which has done me well in my own work and life. They broke the mold with Billy Williams. D.A.

[@stephaniestanley8041]

Mr. Williams is fascinating

[@ellenlinn7]

Dave Brubeck did the music for 'Ordeal By Innocence" and it was really excellent! My husband Mike Linn was the Music Supervisor on this film and he was lucky enough to get to work with Dave Brubeck on the music- he considered it to be one of the best times of his career-

[@billcbren]

And people wonder why you need powerful directors like Kubrick, Hitchcock, et al. They keep these actors raging egos in check.

[@usmale4915]

Exactly!

[@matthewmorrison8611]

Kubrick would have told both Sutherland and Dunaway to fuck off! Do as I want or get the fuck off my set and go home! Hitchcock would have done the same thing and he would have done something sadistic to terrify his actors into submission.

[@erikramaekers63]

actors are cattle

[@MrRazorblade999]

@Stephen Smith He wasn't murdered.

[@FutureBereaAlumn]

Oh, yes. Letting someone bleed or be scared half to death is “keeping their ego in check.”

[@FCignelli]

These actors are nuts.

[@FutureBereaAlumn]

That’s a stretch.

[@unowen-nh9ov]

​@@FutureBereaAlumnWhy? They live in a world of make believe, once shared a lunch counter with Sutherland, keeps public @ bay with permanent cloud over his head.

[@jgrab1]

Yet their behavior is very typical.

[@HomeAtLast501]

They must have had real insecurities about how they looked at certain angles --- they had certain flaws that those camera and lighting angles revealed, so they wanted to avoid them. Perhaps Sutherland had a crooked nose, or his nostrils were different sizes, and it became more obvious when the shot was upward. Or, perhaps he wanted the length of his nose to be emphasized, which a downward shot would do.

[@FCignelli]

@@HomeAtLast501 yes I think in retrospect and with such insightful comments I can see that now.

[@TheSaltydog07]

Her bad reputation goes beyond this. Bette Davis said she was not a professional, and Bette should know.

[@usmale4915]

You are correct! If Bette said so and so was not professional, you can bet your bottom dollar that she was 100 percent right!

[@usmale4915]

@Alexis Jigalin I would be interested in hearing some of your stories. You make it seem like they could be very entertaining and revealing!

[@lynnlobliner3933]

She may have been unprofessional but she was awfully good in 1968's The Thomas Crown Affair!

[@usmale4915]

@@lynnlobliner3933 You're right, of course. But I think what is being discussed is how she was unprofessional, sans being in a movie. I hope I wasn't implying that she was a "bad, lousy actress", she was a very good actress. I like most of her movies!

[@usmale4915]

@Gatto Di Ossa Only a FOOL would tell other people on a COMMENT thread to STFU! You do realize that everyone (including you) has every right to express an "opinion" on a PUBLIC COMMENT thread! Right? You need not reply with one of your witless remarks. Stay safe!

[@collinmurr3207]

Horrifying stories aside, Billy Williams' voice is absolutely fascinating to listen to.

[@jubalcalif9100]

Indeed ! A mesmerizing voice indeed !

[@pansepot1490]

Not just the voice but also how good and yet without affectation his English is. Uses “whom” naturally and correctly which is a rarity these days.

[@FutureBereaAlumn]

I don’t know that these go quite as far as “horrifying.”

[@savage_skirt5386]

Lovely

[@CoopyKat]

Not when he keeps refreshing his mouth when it's closed, making a weird sucking noise. I don't know why people do that.

[@photo161]

Billy Williams, a lovely man, and fascinating raconteur

[@jamesmcinnis208]

And inveterate smiler.

[@stephaniestanley8041]

Billy's talent was and is extraordinary.

[@ryancolby6079]

super elegant guy - i believe every word!

[@wellesradio]

Donald Sutherland was a nightmare to work with as well. Of course, that’s how it is in Hollywood - a difficult actress will be whispered about, but a difficult actor is considered a genius.

[@unowen-nh9ov]

Sutherland didn't even begin his career in Hollywood, pretty Michael Sarrazin did.

[@flexiblestrategist9922]

Cause they're selfish liberals. Horrible people.

[@DJ-bj8ku]

Interesting about Sutherland because if you watch Invasion of the Body Snatchers, most of his scenes were shot looking up at him.

[@unowen-nh9ov]

Worked in sci-fi fantasy world.

[@brt5273]

Invasion was a number of years before Ordeal, so he had some time yo stew over it. Probably bothered him that the view was aimed up his nose.

[@colehara]

A friend of mine worked on a movie set that had Marlon Brando, Charlie Sheen and Donald Sutherland. He said Sheen was a nice guy, Brando was a really nice guy and Sutherland was an absolute prick.

[@colehara]

@LiveOkie It was. Sutherland was quite unpleasant while Marlon Brando would often stop and chat with my friend who was working for the production company.

[@timothyglen6733]

"To be an actor, it is essential to be an egomaniac otherwise it doesn't work." David Niven

[@unowen-nh9ov]

From dude famous for his fictional "memoirs".

[@fabiengerard8142]

A motto that's valid for every artist, for every true creator, actually.

[@TubenIt83]

The credit “Golan Globus” usually meant, at least to me, that the film wasn’t going to be great.

[@oliverdenker8267]

Global Globus = commercial crap.

[@markmarderosian4025]

Even as a kid, if I saw that name in the newspaper ads, I wouldn't go.

[@jubalcalif9100]

I have a notion to second that emotion. Their films were notorious for being schlock.....

[@davemoss9505]

You all got it totally wrong. Runaway Train? The entire Death wish series? Ten to Midnight? Chuck Norris? Bronson? Van Damme? You missed alot of really great movies. Stop stereotyping like a snob and educate yourself about motion pictures.

[@davemoss9505]

​@@oliverdenker8267idiot

[@TheEyeSeesAll]

I don’t care who someone thinks they are, as the creator of the content I would shut that shit down so fast. Actors are not anyone else’s boss. They are actors.

[@cathybrown7559]

I was just watching a Dick Cavett show with Betty Davis. She said Faye Dunnaway was a nightmare.

[@AnnaMaria-oy1fp]

Yeah it's a well known fact that Faye Dunaway is a nightmare to work with.

[@haintedhouse2990]

@@ilovemovies725 Bette was fine as long as everyone on the set was being professional. she even bragged on Joan Crawfords professional approach to the work. apparently this area was a challenge for Ms. Dunaway.

[@akrenwinkle]

@@haintedhouse2990 I also heard Bette's backhanded compliment that Joan was on time. Bette never said Crawford was a great actress or even a good one, but that she showed up when she was supposed to... you know, like the cashier at RiteAid. Joan didn't think much of Bette's acting either, and said she relied on a set of mannerisms... which isn't exactly untrue.

[@haintedhouse2990]

@@akrenwinkle by the time they both started filming Hush Hush Sweet Charlotte Bette who was better at intimidation than Joan would sit next to the director just feet away from Joan, watching her do a scene like a hawk - I believe Bette completely stressed Joan out which led to her being hospitalized with "pneumonia" and abruptly replaced with Olivia De Havilland

[@akrenwinkle]

@@haintedhouse2990 Joan used to knit loudly when other actresses were doing a scene, but that was when Joan was a power player. Joan was meeker now, co-starring with Bette. The story is probably true, but also rumors that Bette and Bob Aldrich were too chummy, freezing Joan out. Still, it's hard to believe the insurance people were fooled by fake "pneumonia" and would cover the costs of the unused footage, and replacing Joan with Olivia.

[@ebe7840]

Love that movie, cant explaine way.

[@GroovyShelly]

Don't know the film but I love the title Billion Dollar Brain...It's like a mash-up of a 1930s backstage musical with a 1950s drive-in sci-fi monster movie. Thanks for uploading this wonderful man's stories of a spectacular career.

[@Rhubba]

It's a 1960s cold war spy thriller starring Michael Caine. The third of a trilogy of movies with Caine playing a spy called Harry Palmer. The other two films are The Ipcress File and Funeral In Berlin.

[@mirianansotegi9590]

You are a SAINT.

[@sandramcdaniel2]

Actors are flawed human beings too. ❤️ this.

[@edp3202]

And insufferable.

[@flexiblestrategist9922]

Make excuses to be a liberal prick. That's what you liberals do. Notice how liberals have nasty dispositions more than conservatives??

[@bighuge1060]

It would be refreshing for a staunch negative response to actors' crazy demands.

[@FutureBereaAlumn]

Crazy?

[@howardcorrin8144]

Im transfixed with billy's voice

[@psjasker]

I worked at Avis in Cambridge, MA back in 90s - a woman wearing grease paint walked in and tossed her keys on the counter. I pointed out they were Hertz keys. She ahrugged and walked out. Ms Dunaway … we dropped it off at Hertz later in the day

[@Happyboymargarine]

6 foot five?? Why is kiefer 4 ft tall ?

[@JimCutler]

Both can be true at the same time: 1) Being rude to the crew is NEVER ok. 2) Extreme-wide lenses can make actors look unappealing.

[@unowen-nh9ov]

Since Dunaway & Sutherland were neither Colbert or Dietrich, if they were that concerned about their appearance on 40 ft. screen maybe they should have chosen other professions.

[@JimCutler]

@@unowen-nh9ov Everyone cares how they look on screen.

[@CanadianMonarchist]

@@unowen-nh9ovFaye Dunaway was a beautiful woman.

[@lynnlobliner3933]

Sounds like "Ordeal by Innocence" applies to the making of the movie!

[@Markmywords803]

Is that the one with the totally incongruous but strangely compelling jazzy Dave Brubeck background music?

[@Blaqjaqshellaq]

Yup!

[@Hithere-ek4qt]

Kudos to this guy for putting up with the prima donnas. He sounds like he has a good attitude.

[@joemac9667]

Actors/Actresses! Can't live with 'em, the end!

[@michaelz9892]

I always liked Sutherland and assumed he was a nice guy...not so sure now..

[@zephyr332]

Unfortunately not. Donald Sutherland is widely known in the business by both fellow actors and directors as being one of the most (in some cases THEE most) arrogant and most difficult person to work with. And Faye wasn't much better!!

[@FutureBereaAlumn]

I’ve heard this is more an issue from when he was younger.

[@-mainstreetflushingqueensNewYo]

Did the film make money with all these restrictions.

[@KASH10043]

It's ironic how insecure many actors are about their looks when most of the public likes them because of those attributes, good or bad. Sutherland later in life openly talked about how much he hated his looks and how he always thought he was ugly.

[@pcoldlight5631]

Actors !

[@WhoFlungPoo2024]

Interesting. Confirms the reputations these two ego-trips have in the industry: they're both genuine pains-in-the-ass.

[@cards0486]

Joel Genung When I hear stories about these demanding actors and actresses I wonder just when they became like that. They all started out being way down the credit list, having few scenes and lines. Someone else was the major star of their first movies. I always remember Katherine Hepburn quoting Spencer Tracy. “Being an actor doesn’t make anybody a genius or something special. Shirley Temple can do it, and she’s five.”

[@WhoFlungPoo2024]

cards0486 I was an airline agent at OHare from 70-78 and have been a union stagehand since 1982. By and large, most of them are pretty nice folks. I think a lot of it comes from the crap they deal with from an adoring public but by the same token, that comes with celebrity status. I will add the few that are not very nice (Lucille Ball, Art Linkletter and Lily Tomlin are the three I specifically remember as complete turds) are total assholes. Oh well. We all live and die.

[@unowen-nh9ov]

Tracy would go missing during filming because he was drunk

[@ptaylor4923]

I've never appreciated actresses like Dunaway with egos bigger than their talent & no care for the film. A first time director had gotten Frank Sinatra to do a war film. Unfortunately, Sinatra had just come off 1 or 2 war films and said he didn't want to wear a uniform again. The young director (forget who it was) had his big break & life invested in this & blurted out, "But it's part of the character & if you don't wear the uniform you'll ruin everything. Sinatra looked at him sternly, walked off to wardrobe & came back in the uniform. He really cared about the kid's vision.

[@ekcentrik]

She won an academy award, for a brilliant performance, did you?

[@kllwc7772]

P Taylor Quite something considering how much EGO FS had !

[@ptaylor4923]

@@ekcentrik Dear, the award in no way speaks to her character & in these days of PC it often doesn't even speak to talent. Let me know how wonderful some of these people are after they makes others run circles around them for a couple of months. 🤣😂

[@cesarzpontu8886]

But Dunaway is a talented actress.

[@ptaylor4923]

@@cesarzpontu8886 Was... and some nightmares are just not worth working with.

[@jjaaayyx7471]

Well, I've Just Watched 'Eyes Of Laura Mars!'

[@tod3msn]

Robert Redford does not get enough credit for being a cool guy. He has said he will never have cosmetic surgery because everyone gets older. As for Faye Dunnaway and Donald Sutherland, let's face it, most of us posting our judgments here would probably be the biggest jerks too if everyone kissed our backsides on a regular basis. Plus, Faye was stunning in "Bonnie and Clyde" and in "Network." Hollywood is unforgiving on aging women.

[@bacchuslax7967]

Keep giving into the egos, the bigger the egos get.

[@jordanharrison1113]

“This is yet another capricious move, by a capricious man.” Yours truly, Faye - reading from her 1994 backyard press conference.

[@oilhammer04]

"'Vanity of vanities,' says the Preacher; 'Vanity of vanities, all is vanity.'" (Ecclesiastes 1:2)

[@vangogo6819]

Amen.

[@anthonymccarthy4164]

I'd rather work with nobodies than complete jerks who were celebrities. I can't stand people who are worse than amateurs, the unprofessionals.

[@mackmaloney3776]

Somehow, someway, this guy has got to be related to George Martin, producer of The Beatles.

[@FutureBereaAlumn]

Given my theory that Donald is autistic, this sounds quite like a meltdown. (I’m autistic myself) Requests were communicated and he understood one thing and other people thought he understood another. No one was entirely on the same page about it, but thought they had been. For people unfamiliar, a meltdown and a tantrum are not the same thing. Let’s say you expect one thing to happen and it doesn’t happen. You get upset. With a tantrum, the upset stops when the issue is resolved. With a meltdown, fixing the issue has no effect on the upset. It simply must run its course. Now, a meltdown can be fueled and last longer if the issue continues to be unresolved, but that’s a case by case thing. If Donald is autistic, whether he knows it or not, he would have developed certain habits, behaviors, or coping mechanisms to reduce the instance of meltdowns. In this case, that would be preemptively expressing his wishes about camera angles. Almost all negative interactions you may have with an autistic person stem from some level of miscommunication. Children more so than adults because they’re learning how to person in general, and that adds extra factors into the mix. (Which is why most people immediately think of autistic children having meltdowns and not adults) The vast majority of people recounting their experience of Donald Sutherland say positive things. That he’s very nice, funny, intelligent, etc. An overall joy to work with. I have seen very few exceptions.

[@unowen-nh9ov]

Autistic in an industry where he is paid WELL to read & take direction, right.

[@aem8160]

Does that give him a get-out-of-jail-free card for being an asshole?

[@boxsterman77]

What I loved about Bette Davis as that she was not afraid to be ugly-if that is what was required of the character.

[@graphiquejack]

It sounds ridiculous, but you have to think about how nasty the press and the public are. I think anybody would want to be on film looking their best, to avoid criticism about looking terrible/old/ugly, etc. It’s sad that the public care more about how someone looks than how they act, but that’s show biz, kid.

[@chrissheppard5068]

You should have said to him whats with the negative waves..........

[@lowe-quay-shush]

Weird about Sutherland. He did this music video 'Cloudbursting' with Kate Bush. She was young. Guess he liked her music.

[@stephaniestanley8041]

Sutherland was not known for his good looks so his demands surprised me. Faye's beauty was extraordinary in Bonnie and Clyde.

[@FutureBereaAlumn]

In the 70s, he was quite popular with the ladies.

[@BassGods]

@stephanie Stanley FACTS. This guy is very fortunate to be a Hollywood Star. If it wasn't for that, he'd be just another average Joe.

[@harty4653]

Faye was the most beautiful woman I've ever seen in her prime

[@RjBenjamin353]

Beauty like yours, will be no more

[@stephaniestanley8041]

​@@RjBenjamin353how kind

[@salvagemonster3612]

You could tell Donald was a huge Deva.

[@HedgehogPhil]

diva

[@edw8889]

Donald over estimates his importance and talent

[@unowen-nh9ov]

But not his height & it's been working for him for over half a century & into 2nd generation.

[@InFltSvc]

Yeah I work on sets and some Talent just have HUGE heads but most are just like us but they got $$$$

[@frozenwarning]

I don’t think that I could work with this man. I guess he just wasn’t a very brilliant cameraman, since everything was so extremely challenging for him lol.

[@IsabelSantosCunha1972]

Faye Dunaway was gorgeous, but impossible to work with. It's public knowledge.

[@paulkitt2376]

Apparently Tommy Lee Jones didn't get along with dunaway in the eyes of Laura mars

[@dmorrow10]

I'm not sure that she's gorgeous is public knowledge

[@ekcentrik]

That was uncalled for. Yes. She was gorgeous. I wonder what these people look like who are criticizing Dunaway's looks.

[@harty4653]

Faye was the most beautiful woman of all time in my view. How anyone can say she wasn't gorgeous is beyond me

[@kellidinit3725]

I never found her attractive myself. I did love Donald Sutherland though.

[@theflorgeormix]

Hilarious. Donald did get mostly close ups in Animal House. Team players is what I want.

[@steveneardley7541]

The movie was greenlit only because they got Sutherland to do it.

[@theflorgeormix]

@@steveneardley7541 absolutely true

[@openshutterfilms8181]

So the dop spends an hour to light the room so it looks as nice as possible but he thinks it's ridiculous that the actors want to take a few minutes to make sure they look as good as possible in the lit room too. Maybe some vanity but both actors know their faces and it is a movie and the dop should consider making everything in the scene including the actors look as good as the room. No excuse for outburst by sutherland he could politely explain that he looks like crap when shot up at. U could argue that its ridiculous for the dop to spend an hour lighting the room when he could just turn on the light switch.

[@SenorZorrozzz]

That’s some strange behavior!

[@Inaisola]

why put up with it? Directors have no power? can't directors threaten their careers?

[@bhickman6]

Talk about burying the lead.

[@morrisonreed1]

sadly hollywood is all about appearance and that slowly creeps into the ego of the actor and creates a bizarre survival instinct

[@ekcentrik]

The days of great film making in Hollywood is over. All they do is churn out those dreadful action movies. It's action movies or Disney.

[@morrisonreed1]

@Gatto Di Ossa wow ! so angry

[@suzeauster2223]

Thank You! I am an American and I have always enjoyed British Actors Best! I highly recommend viewing “ My Adventures in Borneo” with Dame Judi Dench ❤️👍❤️ On utube

[@dougreed2257]

Pretty sure Donald is just a 'mere 6'4",on dirty dozen clint walker had about 2" on him,and he's 6'6"

[@richardw3470]

Who was it said the inmates are in charge of the asylum? We all know who the inmates are.

[@azinegg]

Sutherlands casting as j p Getty, put me off the whole show, I tuned out because of him.

[@ekcentrik]

Egotistic or not, he's a terrific actor. If your face is on a giant movie screen, I would assume, egos aren't in short supply in that profession.

[@FutureBereaAlumn]

@@ekcentrik he was quite different in his younger days (heard here) than he is now.

[@FutureBereaAlumn]

Really? Why is that?

[@azinegg]

I just don’t find him all that ... he’s been miscast in most things for me. Probably klute was his best.

[@StevenTorrey]

And they wonder why their movies are mediocre: thank the egomaniacal stars!

[@FutureBereaAlumn]

Or maybe they choose films for different reasons than you would.

[@catman3552]

To Juan whoever. The only people Miss Davis has made comments about were Miriam Hopkins and Faye Dunaway. And she didn't like the way Jack Warner ran the studio in the early years. So some "B" wrote a book about a Hollywood legend that she didn't particularly like.

[@unowen-nh9ov]

Celeste Holm, & recent Vanity Fair profile.

[@steveneardley7541]

Faye Dunaway is notoriously "difficult" but I didn't know Donald Sutherland was such a prima donna.

[@clintcalvert9250]

You didn’t have to go with it. You chose to stay on board

[@daddyaf945]

Technical discussions among skilled industry artists are being described as difficulty? Someone seems to need attention and unnecessary complaining seems to get it.

[@johnflynn9619]

Faye is Wild.

[@marycahill546]

Such vanity! Insufferable.

[@petermaxwell2965]

Not because of this anecdote, but I can't stand Donald Sutherland, if he's in something I turn it off !

[@azinegg]

Me too, I was gutted when I found out he had been cast as j p Getty , it turned me off of the whole show.

[@petermaxwell2965]

@@azinegg the only person I don't like even more is his pimply son Keefer .. Lol 😁

[@ekcentrik]

All these awful people have nothing to do but degrade talented actors.

[@mucsalto8377]

tribute of Panem? You turned off?

[@rgrndu]

He talks through his teeth

[@ekcentrik]

Why is he trashing these actors on video?

[@kllwc7772]

ekcentrik Because he worked with them and he has a right to do so....

[@Dan-tk5zs]

"The producers spent a fortune on the cast, not very money on the script or props".. that's hollywood. The star system creating monsters not artists.

[@binkytube]

I love that Faye Dunaway is playing her role as Joan Crawford in, Mommie Dearest (1981), for the rest of her life. Lol

[@johnjohnson3709]

Insecure and difficult actors.

[@OnlyThe1Son]

Lol crazy... Some directors are just there to serve the producers!! And the actors know that so they will act like they are far beyond them in rank.. Try that shit on a Tarantino film or a Coppola film set you will get your ass fired!!

[@josephinemateo2553]

That’s a fact, they know who to disrespect and they know who to respect. It’s all about status.

[@wheelzwheela]

Entitled. I’m not surprised.

[@morganwhite2176]

Thing is though, Faye is right, this is her Art and she wants it to be perfect.

[@MrQbenDanny]

The WORST acting in that movie was contributed by Sutherland and Dunaway. Thankfully the Wolf pack of BRITISH actors ate them ALIVE. The visual pain of looking at the face of Sutherland was particularly painful.

[@cesarzpontu8886]

Oh yeah sure.

[@joemaxfield6978]

Sutherland is an awful Canadian.

[@edp3202]

Why do these actors even get hired? Just get a great character actor.

[@markmarderosian4025]

Ironically, neither of them are all that good. I saw "Klute" in the theaters and his sleep-walking performance almost sunk the film. Never cared much since. And except for the hand of a strong director (Penn) getting the most out her limited range as he could in "Bonnie and Clyde" Dunaway has not impressed either, with the possible exception of "Three Days of the Condor" and that was more of supporting role. Okay, okay, I admit to being star-struck when I passed her on the street in 1980. But, in the end, what did these two, especially Sutherland, ever do to warrant that pissy attitude?

[@AnnaMaria-oy1fp]

What about Network?

[@mucsalto8377]

What about tribute of panem?

[@cesarzpontu8886]

I love when people are complaining about actors' acting skills, just because of the fact that they are hard to work with. Do you think they would get good reception from critics if they were not good actors'?

[@margo3367]

I couldn’t do it. I couldn’t put up with those egos.

[@joepalooka2145]

Donald Sutherland is an extreme egotist. And he's not that great of an actor. He's done some good work but that was decades ago. Very little range, just a Hollywood personality.

[@vangogo6819]

Plus he was a traitor along with Hanoi Jane during 'Nam, he was one of her buddies, along with others, who protested OUR GUYS who didn't ask to be sent there, they were drafted and came home to snotty spoiled asses lime Mr. Sutherland. I am biased because I have had friends who were scarred for life for what they went through over there but even putting that aside I never like Donald Sutherland or Faye Dunaway for that matter, both seem like egotists with very limited range. One more thing, if the great Bette Davis said she was unprofessional you know she was!

[@nikolatesla5553]

I love the story how Donald Sutherland screwed himself for his bit part in Animal House. To sell the movie, they wanted a star but they didn't want to pay for a star. Sutherland demanded $250K for one day's work. The studio had no intention of paying that much. The studio offered him $20K plus points. He had no interest in the points and eventually took $35K. Not taking the points cost him about $70 million

[@hetmanjz]

@joepalooka2145 A "Hollywood personality" lol, what gibberish.

[@johnplaid648]

Get Faye and Donald to tell their side of the story. This is one sided.

[@hectormanuel9793]

What he's telling about Donald and Faye is consistant with everyone elses stories about them! They were both monsters of vanity!

[@eddiemunster8634]

I guess when the only way you can earn a living is through your looks, you have to be particular about how you look

[@BoBo-ti6jh]

I'm afraid Mr. Williams is confused. Dunaway was playing a young second wife and her character was to be about the same age as her stepchildren. Dunaway is justified in wanting to be photographed flatteringly. Mr. Williams should find an other job if this seems burdensome to him.

[@Mokkari77]

Dunaway was the mom who adopted them as children. You see her in old home movies. Diana Quick played the stepmom.

[@Mokkari77]

@@WOMENOFTROY Dunaway rose to stardom after the studio system ended. Her best work was in CHINATOWN and NETWORK which didn't have that old fashioned Hollywood lighting. It was naturalistic and she still looked great in them.

[@BoBo-ti6jh]

@Google User I hear him complaining about an actress wanting to look her best on film That's his job, you clown!

[@unowen-nh9ov]

Oscar winner with dozens of credits incl. classics.

[@danielleevans3323]

Dunaway is a known Hollywood perfectionist so unless you know what's it like to be a big star and make a movie, none of us can judge her.

[@thewestshow7]

thank you!!! everyone loves to judge without knowing her experience.

[@electraglide9357]

I don't judge her work on film but I DO judge her shoddy treatment and disrespect of the crew and set! I hear that William Holden gave it to her bigtime after she was holding the crew up and throwing tantrums.

[@DeepScreenAnalysis]

William Holden was an alcoholic philanderer so he can fuck off.

[@randywhite3947]

Messylin also what does him being an alcoholic have to do with anything?

[@michaeljames4904]

Messylin Alcoholic philanderer? Sounds like a fun guy.

[@ianbauer4703]

Blimey, those Hollywood types

[@Sunshine-zm1fx]

I will never understand why people criticize actresses trying to look good on camera. This is fairly standard practice. Actresses are often hired because of their beauty and it's part of their profession. An actress who insists on looking good in movies is a professional making sure she gives the very best to her audience. Directors, cameramen, and anyone else who whines about it is just being condescending and rude.

[@huddy85210]

Jesus Christ! Two not that great has been actors thinking they’re A listers!

[@cesarzpontu8886]

Because they were A listers. Faye Dunaway was already an Oscar winner.

[@ashleyhyne7027]

That film should have been called Ordeal by a Pair of American Prats. The film sank without a trace. Actors act, directors direct. Not the other way around.

[@mp2040]

The lesser stars always seem to be divas. Faye D has never been a great actress and her delusions of greatness only prove that.

[@gameconventions4065]

Put me right to sleep. Yawn.

[@countdownda]

lol

[@boxsterman77]

Prima Donna’s.

[@alexdavies7394]

As soon as an actor or star becomes successful, they think they are God's gift. They are not!

[@xtcBEBOP]

WE need great actors that serve the project, not egocentric spoiled "stars" "divas" !

[@NHseacoast]

Prima Donna and Diva. Tiring

[@plazaro100]

No one liked Dunaway, she finished herself off

[@uranusimploding9830]

Vain, overbearing and pompous ....shoulda fired their asses

[@jjmboston5832]

The film was not all that great and the soundtrack was totally wrong for the film. Oh well!