DJI Avata vs. DJI FPV Drone - Is It an Upgrade?

[@billykyle]

Quick heads up - the specs for the cameras that I put on the screen at 9:12 are flip flopped! Sorry about that, but the labels for all of the footage is correct.

[@Porschession]

Plus: The DJI FPV doesn't have HorizonSteady - only Rocksteady mode!

[@billykyle]

@@Porschession copy and paste error lol

[@drewpearson7911]

Just was about to mention. Great catch as well.

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[@ayanpahloan1418]

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[@danielporterAZ]

The FPV camera isn’t as bad as everyone claims. Shooting in d-cinelike allows for color grading and pulling detail from the shadows in post while also using nd filters allows for reducing overexposure and getting motion blur if so desired. The lower resolution is unnoticeable on a cell phone screen which is where 99% of viewers will watch the footage. This is my humble opinion…

[@billykyle]

But when put side by side with Avata…. Huge difference in clarity

[@BrandonTalbot]

Yeah I agree. Watch Nathan McBride he's got some insane stuff shot on that camera.

[@danielporterAZ]

@@billykyle on the computer monitor yes, but on a mobile device…it’s not noticeable. Many are just too harsh on the FPV’s camera I feel…That’s the only point I was offering.

[@TheCr4zyM4n]

I agree with you on this. Overall I feel the camera is great for high-speed video capture. I also got a Mini 2 for when I want higher detail/slower cinematic scenes. Almost like the age old saying, there is a tool for every job. That being said, of course the Avata camera is better and wish it was used on the FPV drone too haha.

[@gmore70]

I think the problem is people don't know how to colour grade. D-cini is perfectly fine. Don't bother with a GoPro just take a few hours to learn how to colour grade the footage

[@goldenearsvideography]

Great review. As an owner of the FPV and the soon to be delivered Avata, what you didn't really push is the portability for videography. Throwing this in a backpack for hiking, biking, skiing, etc. is a major selling feature for me.

[@Flamamacue]

There is just no carting that thing around in a practical way. I've been getting around much more on an ebike and I'm confident I can bring the Avata even out and about on that

[@justinmunford2164]

I completely agree ! The original FPV was such a hassle taking it places! It just required so much space

[@Flamamacue]

@@Tensentities It's more that when I go out with my gear, I'm also taking my mirrorless body/some lenses etc. I can comfortably easily get around with a bag with a few lenses, a tripod and mini 3 pro but with FPV I could only really take it and forgo everything else

[@johnhinkleman9757]

Where do you even ski that allows drones? Seems like everywhere i go to hike, bike, or ski, no drones allowed.

[@goldenearsvideography]

@@johnhinkleman9757 Typo, should have been snowshoeing, on trails that are not part of a ski resort up here in Vancouver.

[@cerealeverymeal]

I agree with your assessment between the Avata and DJI FPV 100%. The Avata is the most fun I have had with a drone in a long time. I am flying with my FPV goggles V2 and controller 2. I have had many bumps and small crashes with the Avata and it is surprisingly durable, most of the time it bounces off drunkenly and then just keeps flying without having gone down. I feel far more confident flying the Avata fast and close in to the scenery. I also think the Avata in normal or spot mode is far easier to fly than a traditional cinawoop, It is definitely a great drone for beginners or experienced FPV flyers.

[@nicolasestrem]

I've got both, the FPV does not allow any mistakes in manual mode after a year of experience on it, all it takes is a split second to destroy it and everything on its way. The avata in acro mode gave mixed results (I know it's a cinewhoop) with propellers turning into dust instantly. On the other hand the thing can handle a 250m high dead drop from the sky without much damage. If you never flew fpv start with the Avata and many, many many hours in a simulator software. DJi FPV's are selling for $390 on eBay those days without googles or controller.

[@Dajlec]

Avata for me: - Googles 2 (diopter!, smaller, lighter..) - better camera + rocksteady 2.0/horizonsteady - prop guards - motion controller - 50% smaller/lighter - cinematic capability Speed is not that important for me...which I see as the only benefit of owning a FPV drone. Besides it is just too intimidating. Really too bad that Avata is not a sub 250g...but one can dream though:) With Avata, DJI literally brought two worlds together (FPV and cinematic world) which was unheard of till now. The fun factor of Avata is insane..I am not a professional but I have owned Spark, Mavic Air (1st gen), Mavic 2 Zoom and now I'm wanting Avata to squeeze the fun factor out of my flying which is the main reason why I love drones so much...

[@mckrackin5324]

I think it's important to mention that the Avata cannot fly in manual mode out of the box since DJI doesn't offer a combo that comes with the controller. The motion controller is all you can get. The regular controller is sold separately and out of stock more often than not. So, for $1400, sport mode is the best you can get.

[@mckrackin5324]

@@poultrypants Where? Not from DJI.

[@mckrackin5324]

@@poultrypants I just checked. No one offers that combo.

[@poultrypants]

@@mckrackin5324 Oh yea sry, you're right. IDK why I thought that. I deleted the original comment.

[@shootdaj]

Hi Billy - just a note that the specs you showed during the camera comparison were reversed. I had to do a double take and then check on the website.

[@nbomb2474]

I want to also address something else that I have seen no one else address. The cost. The Avata in all FPV combos costs more than the FPV. The FPV BNF kit costs $1000 new, while the cheapest BNF kit for the Avata costs over $1100, and you don't even get the regular RC at the top end kit. It's also worth noting that the Goggles 2 are currently not compatible with existing DJI air units for other FPV drones. This means if you buy an Avata, you must make the choice to either forego the head tracking feature or forego the compatibility with existing Air Units. In my opinion, if you are just getting into FPV, go with the FPV, don't spring for the Avata. It's cheaper, you get a closer to standard RC, and you can jump to other digital drones. If you are either already flying an FPV or you are looking to use a drone for filming purposes, buy the Avata, but even then the FPV will suffice. 99% of people are not filming movies, instead producing simple content. High end phones have only just gotten to 12 MP cameras, and everyone agrees they look great. Most people also consume media on their phones. They will not be able to tell the difference between 48 MP and 12 MP. The Avata's main one up is it's small size that allow it to fly indoors and around people easily.

[@Flamamacue]

I've played flying games all my life, and the motion of the controller has come very easy to me for both regular drone flying and FPV. I can rip pretty hard on FPV sims and generally have no real issues but I get in my head way too hard with ta fragile $1400 ($AUD) FPV drone. I never want to take any risks with it and fly very conservatively which doesn't result in the killer shots. It's such a fragile design and unlike the DIY FPV systems it's usually a headache to fix anything more than a prop breaking & due to this I find myself barely using it & certainly not to it's real potential. Ordered the Avata knowing a cinewhoop (that doesn't require a gopro strapped to it for anything decent) is actually what I wanted from the DJI FPV

[@shutter250]

Avata is sweet but I still like the fpv more ..love the speed

[@iamanil7]

We know what the dialogues are but the scenes are fresh and new ❤️💙

[@360vt2]

Thanks. DJI Avata has a Pano Shooting Mode, can choose from Sphere for size panorama 360°x180° or only manually shot?

[@kylecarter7928]

You made a good point about the two being built for different flying styles and purpose. Both are high quality commercial fpvs.

[@a13pt1runner95926]

Great video and review. I had been about to pull the trigger on the FPV when the Avata hit the market so I have been doing a TON of research and watching videos like yours. You nailed it and broke things down really concisely.

[@TomL2025]

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[@brazenhoney]

@ 13:26 are the specs switched on the shots? It looks like the right is the better footage from the Arvata, but the specs on the left for the FPV. I thought the Arvada had 48mp and the FPV had 12mp

[@gomer2841]

i thought that too, it says on the website the avata is 48mp. th specs must be switched

[@adamackels73]

How well did the Avata handle wind?

[@adgery_l]

There is an error at 8:52. Or pictures are mixed up in places, or parameters.

[@billykyle]

Look at the pinned comment.

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[@jnizzelest]

Considering the Avata doesn’t come with the remote to go into acro mode it seems like it’s worth getting the first FPV and then getting the Avata by itself since you have the set

[@Marcus2750-u1t]

BINGO! And being the fpv can put out 100 mph and it being bigger its more usable …… I hv both and grab my fpv for all out fun

[@juanmaria5377]

@@Marcus2750-u1t estoy con ganas d comprar el fpv. Te gusto a vos???

[@RBourn9]

I just wanted to thank you for making short, concise, to the point videos. Too many other sites blabber on about stuff that is irrelevant. I don't have time for that so I appreciate you getting the information out as efficiently as possible. Can you provide the link for that Avata teardown video please? Thank you.

[@billykyle]

I'm happy you enjoy the videos! unfortunately - no video of the tear down. Just photos.

[@hotrodindaytona5658]

The big deal of Goggles 2 is the diopter going to +8 for people with glasses like me. That opens it up to another whole audience which includes many of us older guys who fly drones. (You'll find out when you hit 40 Billy =p)

[@helm311]

I have no drone experience at all, but would love to learn to fly. Would one of these drones be a good fit for a beginner?

[@paulweston8184]

9:25 I am confused by the specs on the drones in the split screen. The right screen obviously looks way better but the specs on the left screen are better. However you say the bitrate is faster on the avata and the megapixel count is higher but thats not what the screen says.

[@Marcus2750-u1t]

The specs you listed are backwards, I wish the fpv had 48 mp lol…… I may try when the camera only setup is out soon.

[@scole901]

thanks bill. i already heve the fpv, i agree with your feeling of having to be very careful with the fpv. i guess you will have to bind to the avata with the fpv goggles and controller. how do you do that.?

[@mmcneilsat]

Great review Billy! I already had the DJI FPV, but I ordered the Avata mainly for travel considerations (same reason I have a Mavic2 Pro & Zoom, along with a Mini for travel). I can now take both the Mini & Avata (with the smaller goggles 2) and easily fit into my overhead backpack for airline flights! Thanks!

[@mmcneilsat]

Hola Billy! Not sure how to reply to your comment? Thanks!

[@Draxel]

@@mmcneilsat Don't fall for the scam!

[@kentao4]

Do we know if the new goggles will work with the old fpv yet??

[@Encrypt-]

@@kentao4 They dont/wont

[@LearningInVR]

Sucks i took a trip to Florida and brought my avata, forgot the googles lol .

[@stanleydrones]

@9:12 I think you have some of the camera information on the wrong side.

[@hv5304]

Thanks for the review.I have a question: Can they work as normal drones? I intend to buy a drone for building inspection and equipment inspection. Is it stable to set near a building and stand still there?

[@Diamond_Hands_007]

Hi there , to anyone who own Avata , I would like to ask does it come with “FOLLOW ME” mode ? I currently have mini 2 and I can have my drone to follow me when I’m running . Since Avata is FPV require goggle to control Everytime. Are there any way to turn on Follow Me mode ? Thx for all helping ❤❤❤❤❤

[@cliftonw1365]

They lost me not selling it in a combo with a real stick style controller.

[@jc4evur661]

How sharp are the goggles to look thru? Can you focus each eye independently?

[@MountainMan7.62x39]

How are you able to record the goggles with the HUD info displayed?

[@feiamw2751]

How abt flying in a strong wind condition. That's one of my concerns too 😔

[@jgreg95]

Your flight footage quality is the best I’ve seen yet and I’ve watched every Avata video possible since the release, so I don’t know what your doing differently over there but you may just need to make a video on that alone. 👍

[@Simulacra001]

You didn’t mention head tracking mode.

[@bsandlin22]

Can you use the mini 2 remote with the Avata?

[@LucizenVisuals]

doesnt the avata use o3+ transmission? you said they both use the same transmission

[@JOATMON66]

Is it possible you put the camera specs on the wrong side in the video, Billy? What you say doesn't seems to match what we see in the specs text...

[@MrDwaynecasey]

I have the Avada coming. I agree that I am much more careful with the FPV. I look forward to being a bit less nervous when flying the Avada. I have flown lots of FPV drones made of carbon fiber. While neither of these will take the beating of a vortex 150. The flight experience with a high resolution FPV goggles and the video output potential makes the DJI solutions the first choice on most travel outings.

[@TiangeX]

the specs for FPV and Avata is flipped at 9:22

[@carlosmendoza8415]

I want to purchase the Avata but it has an option to either include the FPV controller or not. Do you like the FPV controller or does the avata controller do everything and you haven’t touched the FPV controller since the upgrade?

[@ST-online]

The avata falls every time you make a harsh turn does the fpv do the same?

[@torogozDrone503]

where did you buy the simgle drone?

[@SunriseWaterMedia]

I didn't realize that it will activate RTH if the video feed gets too bad. Cool!

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[@fly-9262]

Billy, Looking for extra batteries for the avata drone and I can't find any? Even dji

[@robthiessen5317]

Did you fly the Avata into the clip where it flew inside the house?

[@johnhoover3345]

Thanks Billy for your comprehensive analysis of the differences between these two products. I own the FPV and love flying it. My skills aren't to the level to gamble it's life buzzing garages or parking structures but that's not how I use it. It's just a blast to haul ass past trees, along rivers or lakes, dive bomb interesting places, and rip around other Open Area obstacles. However, the Avata does have it's advantages. Since the V2 FPV goggles will work with the Avata (thanks for that tidbit), and I already use the Motion Controller, It's now on my radar to own one. Thanks again!

[@Marcus2750-u1t]

Yep grap a drone only its much cheaper

[@Jonasegway]

But are these still limited to no fly zones?

[@PipinhoSnow]

~I stiil got the dji spark. The only problem is the battery. Maybe a buy this one?

[@chrisabraham8793]

Is the DJI Avanta viable to be used in a drone business or is the DJI mini pro 3 better.

[@DomsWorkShop-m9n]

Does the mini 3 pro have the Failsafe RTH

[@cvgurau]

hey off-topic but where'd you get at gopro mount for the dji fpv

[@sweetvelocitybps]

Fantastic comparison, exactly what I was looking for. Thank you!

[@ArctisTheMonk]

Does the Goggle V2 with the Avata has better Range then with the Goggle 2? V2 has 2 Antennas and could result in less failsave. Also EU Range for the Avata is down to only 2km and oftes lose Signal after 300m. Has the FPV a better Range?

[@aarondodson1261]

Will the fpv controller work for the ava

[@carlosmendoza8415]

Which controller do you prefer?

[@linkiny]

Finally someone who covered the vertical speed part. Watching everyone's reviews and first impressions, no one mentions anything about the Avata's ability to fly freely around, and even the ones who made videos "preparing" a dive have never shown one. 13.5 mph vertical speed limit explains it, and it heavily limits the drone's capabilities for FPV. As a cinewhoop it looks great, but it really shouldn't be called an FPV drone, like, at all!

[@campingwithhuskies]

It's literally a First Person View (FPV) drone, though, so the name fits the definition. It's just not on par speed-wise to the DJI FPV and a lot of home-built FPV drones. FPV drones don't require a certain speed to be classified as FPV. Are they generally faster than a typical Quad? Absolutely. But, even that's not technically a requirement.

[@DazedPhasesofLazerbeams]

This is gatekeeping at it best. The thing offers first person view. Its not a racing drone. But yes it is indeed FPV.

[@muhameddelic1819]

I need a remote to practice my fpv skills.. Should i get the big dji fpv remote or the one that comes with the avata (smaller one)? I am planning on building my own fpv drones in the future using the air unit so it needs to be future proof for that too. Thanks!

[@mssippijim]

Nobody that builds their own drones flies with motion control that I know of.

[@dylangriggs4776]

I just purchased the Avata - If i want to purchase the FPV (just the drone) can I use the "Goggles 2" Headset, or will I need to buy the Goggles V2?

[@kleinerrebell6691]

I was waiting for this comparison. I have the FPV drone, but I always feel that I don't get to it's potential, because I am to careful trying not to crash because fixing it would be very experienced 😅

[@jpslayermayor9293]

Totally agree, I find biggest limitation is worrying about crashes bc it is sooo delicate. So shots you can get with Avata would be dicey potentially for DJI FPV drone.

[@Marcus2750-u1t]

@@jpslayermayor9293 that is simply not true, put braces on it and go.

[@Marcus2750-u1t]

@@kompressahdnb buy what?

[@kompressahdnb]

@@Marcus2750-u1t was talking to the orginal person on this thread. Buying the fpv . I think I commented on the wrong thread :P

[@LAMB_SAUCE]

so you spent like a grand to never use it as its supposed to be used? What's the point then? Its like buying an S class AMG to drive 40miles per hour "cos fixing it would very expensive".

[@atomic80]

Have you got a link to that gopro mount used on your FPV? I'd like to grab one and do you notice a huge difference in flight time and flying capabilities with the gopro on there compared to without?

[@billykyle]

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[@jparkerenterprises]

Billy ya think avata could even come close for chasing a golf ball in flight if it got up to speed? mavic 3 is slower so odds are that one wouldnt be close...i have both and contemplating grabbing the oringial dji fpv for a gold course shoot coming up

[@cadger10]

I already have the FPV, so once I pair the goggles and remote with the Avata, do I then have to re-pair with the FPV in order to fly the FPV?

[@FREEFROMITALL]

Maybe a stupid question, but, Do they float? Lots of OVER WATER scenes and if they don't float that's GOT to be RISKY AF right?

[@dubrpanda1636]

Forward 1y... they made it backwards compatible

[@daoud1608]

Can a mini 3 pro do pretty much everything the avata can?

[@jaymarclucas3560]

If I have the “older” FPV V2 goggles, can I utilize those to stream Avata flights for another person to watch?

[@YIMMA996TT]

Hey billy, do do fly in manual?

[@jasonhannah3823]

Great review. One question are there nd filters available for the Avata?

[@The1stHomosapien]

how is the dji spunk any better?

[@HelpCloud]

That clears it up, I need both! Thanks Billy!

[@personaldronerepair6141]

Yep Yep..just what I needed.

[@anthonyromero9263]

Can the Avata do flips like the other FPV??

[@L.G.]

Awesome review! Does your spec listing of the camera need flipped?

[@SKY53.]

Thank you Billy, Can we use DJI Goggles V2 with Avata without updating Goggles firmware to latest version (could be used also with older firmwares)?

[@nzii3]

Does anyone know if you can show the MPH on number on the display when using the DJI FPV Goggles v2 using the Avata? I saw that you can see it in the DJI Goggles 2 but not the v2 goggles.

[@jgreg95]

Looking at those on the table makes you realize the obvious next step would be for DJI to release a larger cine- style drone to fill the gap between the three but for now looking very much forward to flying the Avata.

[@laurenthenry]

I don't think so. It'll be un upgrade of the DJI fpv. A bigger drone for cine is a niche and few people wil buy it.

[@jgreg95]

A prop guarded drone was niche until someone adopted it and stuck a camera on top of it that was the beginnings of where we currently are. It was smaller and flew for a much shorter time and then they became larger and flew longer.

[@VRcation]

Gonna wait for the 3D version, my credit card is ready

[@ajbali2418]

Thank you. Will definitely add the avata to go with my mavic 2 pro.

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[@TLTPhotography]

Great review but I think at 9:25 when you have the specs on screen they are flip flopped and on wrong sides

[@MrCristopher99]

I also attach an Action 2 to my FPV, how the Avata compares? Rocksteady 2.0 is amazing.

[@rex1x486]

Hi billy 9:13 you put the specs for the wrong drones, the avata specs are by the fpv v1 and the fpv v1 specs are on the avata footage

[@JoseSierradeLeste]

I wonder about the Avata and how it flies in the wind. I'm familiar enough with 5" fpv rigs punching through wind, but the Avata seems so small and doesn't seem to have the punch that the FPV does. Also super curious about that weird little motion-controller thing it has. Hmm.

[@DownstreamV]

Not good mine got pushed back in 15 winds

[@r.u.kidding8696]

You forgot to mention the high pitched LOUD noise coming from the avata. U will hear it before seeing it.

[@borisd8927]

Amazing video. Quick question, when you buy avata do you only get motion sensor controller or both them

[@film_pi_vox]

Buddy it's amazing how you manage to give so many information in this timeframe!!!

[@puckpusher98]

Does anyone know if it is easy to switch the controller and goggles back and forth between the FPV and the Avata?

[@MetroDrones]

Good video... See you on the next one...

[@VincentMartinFree]

Very good information as always Billy. I'm waiting now on my Avata. I really like how you can fly it, where you can fly it, with now worries, for the up most.

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[@ayedunjossyoladipupo1235]

Billy Kyle always making sense. Great video as usual.

[@GeroLubovnik]

The FPV brought a lot of interest, but IMO has so many drawbacks. It's not designed to take crashes well. Its bulky for an FPV drone and is limited to what you can do with it compared to other FPV drones. The Avata OTOH looks like the perfect drone for a new FPV pilot (except for the way DJI has priced the components). I recently bought a Mini 3, but had this been on the market then, I might have skipped the Mini 3 and bit the bullet on this one. But in DJI inimitable marketing style, none of the equipment is cross compatible with other DJI equipment. And to add insult to injury, the "gaming" style controller must be purchased separately and all you get is the single "joystick" controller. While the Avata itself is priced relatively reasonbly, what you will need with it jacks the price up enough to make the DJI bean counters happy while they (once again) fleece you.

[@trendivision2599]

First drone.. And I'm going for DJI FPV MAIN REASON BEING Avata has alot of bugs... I don't own one but there's a ton of avata crashing... And also no controller in the package is a bummer also my goal is to film cinematic shots like mountains and all.. Which avata would make no sense..

[@johnsoncityaerialphotograp7201]

I know it’s supposed to be immersive and the whole point is the first person view but part of me wishes you could bind a RC N1 or a RC Pro to it .. 😊

[@leadsled213]

I'm wishing I could bind the new goggles to the Mini 3 Pro and RC Controller...

[@kurtzFPV]

If DJI would release the API that might be possible along with autonomous flight modes, or at least a way to use waypoints and autonomous flight modes with the normal controller and phone attached to the goggles. It would truly be a swiss army knife of drones then.

[@kevinreiff1998]

thanks for the video. answered all my questions

[@matthewperkins3036]

This video is very helpful. I been looking at purchasing one or the other of these to drones. This has helped me out a lot with the decision making process. I am still on the fence, but I am leaning more to the Avata. I have never owned a drone before, but I am excited to own one or the other of these of these two. I am leaning towards the Avata.

[@Marcus2750-u1t]

The FPV is way more fun, I own both and the fpv is faster and doing 100 a thousand feet up is FUN!

[@blueflame2532]

@@Marcus2750-u1tsound fun, everyone says it’s not durable, but it really is. Look at the thickness of the arms

[@Hohmies86]

Avata get one of those!

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[@retry0612]

thanks for your video, how about goggles? for me , I think only good screen is better than old one. how about fogging in the lens?

[@trapperjohn6089]

Thanks for the video Billy. Just like the FPV I almost impulse bought it until I watched your video. Now I know better thanks a lot! Saved me again From buying some thing I don’t need from DJI.

[@Ifyoudonttakeitucantfakeit]

Great review. thanks. I lost an FPV when it lost contact 15 feet below me as I was flying under a bridge. I replaced it immediately as I wanted the thrill it gave me when flying. I’m no expert and have never had an issue with the video quality from the FPV. I can’t see a reason to upgrade as the pluses just don’t make enough difference. If I lost my FPV again for whatever reason I probably still would replace with another FPV for one reason. I own 5 batteries which are not compatible with anything and cost a fortune along with the case etc etc. if I was starting from scratch? FPV every time.

[@sitoudien9816]

Does it have motion tracking. I want it to follow me.