Augusto Pinochet: The Great Betrayal

[@charliespurr7325]

When you have one shot, one opportunity, to seize everything you ever wanted, would you capture it? Or just let it slip? -Pinochet, 1973.

[@lyckokaka]

Said with mom's spaghetti on his shirt.

[@70mjc]

TheJughead77 nationalism is for indoctrinated people

[@dove134]

But he keeps on forgetting what he wrote down the crowd goes so wild

[@TotalRookie_LV]

@TheJughead77 This implies Chile somehow wasn't part of the West - the civilised world. Sure, it was still underdeveloped back then and with a socialist president, but that president was democratically elected, thus he surely did not came to power in the way Soviet puppet socialist regimes did.

[@TotalRookie_LV]

@TheJughead77 Chile is also in Western hemisphere, most developed countries are on the Easrern hemisphere, yet the still are a part of the West. And there is no Hell or Heaven either. Yeah, I'm sure you did not imply anything or get anything either.

[@internetwonderbuilder4741]

I'm so glad that Bob Ross never was handed the reins of power. We would all be dead.

[@erikdrake6317]

Happy little people (said in a soporific voice)

[@jussayinmipeece1069]

no, no no he was not a FAILED artist. Only the ones that fail....

[@Jamal-xj1vk]

He was in the military before he was an artist, so I could see it happening lol

[@robertwilloughby8050]

And imagine Mr Rogers as torturer in chief.....

[@NiaPgn]

Internet Wonder Builder what lol

[@Hollows1997]

Thatchers admiration with Pinochet most likely came from the fact he was the only world leader to assist Britain during the Falklands war.

[@fernandodelacuadra9703]

You are wrong, Mrs. Thatcher great admiration for Pinochet was because the Chilean stateman was a pionner in the economical policies that England will apply later in democracy in the UK with her in 10 Downing street. Argentina wanted to invade Chile after the Falklands, thats why informally Chile sided with England in that conflict in the south Atlantic.

[@napalmsticks6494]

@@fernandodelacuadra9703 you did not disprove his point

[@TheLocalLt]

America also sold a bunch of weapons and airplane fuel to Britain, they also did Britain a big favor by not asking them to call off the task force as Galtieri had requested of Alex Haig

[@millecarrasco9]

The british special commando troups based in Chile to head out from the cordilleras to operate in Argentina during the Falklandcrises. Offcourse Argentina wanted to retaliate though to the fact these brother-countries being having a beef since day one. Chile have been involved long time in Europes politocs, many would say that without Chile no first nor second ww and dont forget Chiles landsfather name O´Higgins. I wouldnt call it admiration but sou´ll scratch mine an ill scratch yours, in other words to be frank just simple corruption.

[@costakeith9048]

@@fernandodelacuadra9703 He's not wrong, but neither is your point...there are lots of good reasons to love Pinochet.

[@massiveheadwoundharry6833]

I lived in Santiago starting in 1996. Pinochet was a very polarizing figure. Chileans either loved him or hated him there was no middle ground.

[@fernandodolz9247]

yes, but more people hate him to be clear

[@el.vicho.de.la.sierra]

@@fernandodolz9247 not rly

[@fernandodolz9247]

@@el.vicho.de.la.sierra oh believe me jsjs

[@bcubed72]

@@fernandodolz9247 More penniless commies, you mean? Allende was a KGB operative. With the fall of the USSR, we know this now. Good fukin riddance to him! To paraphrase _It's a Wonderful Life,_ whenever a commie dies, an angel gets its wings.

[@fernandodolz9247]

@@bcubed72 no, overrall in the population i mean

[@Willindor]

Dying shortly after hearing you're medically fit enough for standing trial? What a powermove

[@mojungle3054]

🇨🇱 Absolute Chad 🇨🇱

[@MariaMartinez-researcher]

Over 90 years old, sure.

[@whatonearth9809]

Love the Rhodesia photo!

[@alwillk]

Kenneth Lay did the same thing after the Enron scandal. Died on vacation before sentencing. On May 25, 2006, Lay was found guilty on six counts of conspiracy and fraud by the jury. In a separate bench trial, Judge Lake ruled that Lay was guilty of four additional counts of fraud and making false statements. Sentencing was scheduled for September 11, 2006 and rescheduled for October 23, 2006. He died on July 5th.

[@ehrldawg]

LOL !! No kidding !!

[@qliphalpuzzle5453]

What the hell is it with possible artists becoming dictators

[@marcustrelle4898]

Because painting with blood is more fun.

[@paullangton-rogers2390]

What else can they do if their art sucks and fails to sell? They have no trade to fall back on. It's a logical move, just take over the entire country.

[@justingilbert9064]

They are idealists with big visions, not pragmatists

[@theblancmange1265]

And momma's boys. Them being messed up in general. (Dolfi, Pino, the guy who made furniture from women...)

[@Lachausis]

Look at so called stalinist antifa in usa. All liberal arts students.

[@scottlemiere2024]

"You're fit to stand trial!" "I'll show you fit to stand trial!" Promptly dies.

[@edwardblom4217]

Pinochet was a madlad to his death

[@veronicasanacion]

@@edwardblom4217 He adored power and exercising violence against whoever didn´t obey his rules.

[@scottydu81]

@@veronicasanacion Thank fucking god

[@christopher9727]

Only Jesus Christ blood can cleanse us of are sins come to Jesus Christ today Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. Come to Jesus Christ today Jesus Christ is only way to heaven Repent and follow him today seek his heart Jesus Christ can fill the emptiness he can fill the void. The Holy Spirit can lead you guide and confort you through it all Heaven and hell is real cone to the loving savior today Today is the day of salvation tomorrow might be to late come to the loving savior today John 3:16-21 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. Mark 1.15 15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel. 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. Hebrews 11:6 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. Jesus

[@coimbralaw]

Lame af

[@jcee6886]

September 11 1973. I was only 4 years old but I remember that day clearly.

[@rexruther4864]

Wasn’t it wonderful

[@alfredthegreatkingofwessex6838]

LUCKYYY

[@scottydu81]

The answer to 1984 is in 1973

[@lilianawojciechowski2828]

My family lived through that too, except we realize if Pinochet hadn't done the coup millions of Chileans would've died. Chile under capitalism wasn't perfect, but it was the most successful country in Latin America for a short time. Not sure about now but it had to be done, unfortunately.

[@Clippidyclappidy]

@@rexruther4864Yeah, yeah. Up is down, black is white and hate is love.

[@wcarcass]

On 22nd August 1973, Pinochet didn’t become chief of staff of the armed forces. He became COMMANDER IN CHIEF OF THE ARMY. The armed forces didn’t (and it still doesn’t) have a joint command structure, the Chief of Staff as the top commanding officer does not exist, there is a joint coordinating organization but there is no chief of staff of the armed forces, just Commander in Chiefs. One more thing, Pinochet joined the Coup last. The most adamant was the Navy commander in Chief but the chiefs of the armed forces and the military police considered the Navy as non representative enough so they had to convince Pinochet to become the de facto leader and thus securing the loyalty of the army and a more popular support.

[@mattharvey4770]

Watanabe Carcass all the coup leaders were traitors and rabid dogs.

[@ruleten9575]

@@mattharvey4770 What about Fidel and Raul?

[@pasjonatpl]

@@ruleten9575 There is a difference between a coup and a revolution. The second one took a place with a huge people's support. Of course, it doesn't mean that communism is a good system. However, in this case it was better than previous regimes and that's why people still loved Fidel and fought for him when CIA tried to take him down.

[@pasjonatpl]

@@CS88528 I met one Cuban in Chile. He doesn't like Castro at all but also he said it was even worse before. It's clear Cubans in the USA hate him because most of them were wealthy people who most their wealth and power after revolution. But many Cubans loved Fidel because communism was a change for better for them. It doesn't mean that it's a great system. On the contrary. Just the previous system was worse. Really great achievement, to establish worse system than communism. There was authoritarian regime and oppression before the revolution so it didn't change too much. But if it comes to economy. Most of Cubans were peasants. Under Batista and before peasants had a job just a couple of months in the year on cane plantations. A job for very small money. So they couldn't save anything for later. Many of them didn't own any land to cultivate something on their own and survive. So they lived in extreme poverty and starving pretty often. No money for education or healthcare. Communism offered them very little but still it was much more than before, full employment for a whole year (for low salaries which provides very modest life but enough to fulfill basic needs without starving), access to education (level of illiteracy was really high before and under Castro's regime it was around 0 after a while) and free healthcare (on poor level due to inefficient system and trade embargo on Cuba but still better than no access at all due to the lack of money). This is why people loved Fidel and CIA failed trying to overthrow him.

[@Bnes-um5gn]

@K MB brrrrrr

[@quindariousgooch1962]

Chilean Authorities: “We’re going to arrest you now.” Pinochet: *goes beast mode and dies*

[@chad2522]

Based the only two times I have cried in Chile is when I saw Michael Jackson die and Pinochet die

[@ruturajshiralkar5566]

900th 👍

[@JDT01976]

gets 4ucked by the grim reaper is more like it.

[@bigtomDW]

the vote: Yes, for him to stay. No, for him to not leave.

[@edwardblom4217]

Pinochet did nothing wrong

[@inakilarrere8713]

@@edwardblom4217only mistake leaving power and not killing all the commies

[@tompegorinno5141]

Yes. Let him stay.

[@thomash226]

piti tops You’re an idiot

[@WhyAreAllTheGoodUsernamesTaken]

@Lemur Monkey Spoken like a true communist

[@jeffsanders1609]

I have a Chilean immigrant friend who’s family has a picture of Pinochet on their living room wall. In their view, he’s the hero who saved their country from communism and so they respect and honor him for that

[@pauloturnell7653]

Whilst my family was imprisoned and escaped to sweden to survive his dictatorship after 2 of my uncles where shot in the street, very different views and I find that interesting

[@slavicemperor8279]

Lmao most Chileans hate Pinochet

[@daybus2472]

@@slavicemperor8279 i don't think so

[@vignesh.n7744]

Not really

[@jrm5037]

As they should

[@Blank-fm2zf]

"Get to the chopper" -Augusto Pinochet

[@airsoftalgerie3302]

I see military uniforms isnt the only thing Chile has taken from the Germanic people.

[@ieatgremlins]

No

[@Blank-fm2zf]

@@ieatgremlins Yes

[@eval_is_evil]

"Get to the Pinochet" - Augusto Chopper

[@alexanderchenf1]

Mo Fuggar GrossDeutchland!

[@matiax21black]

Just to share, my grandpa lived in a small town in the south of Chile, he was one of the only people who can afford a truck at the time, he told me that after the coup, the police come to his house to borrow his truck for reason, then, they gave it back with the pickup full of blood, tell him to not ask and go to clean it up to the fire station, like it was nothing, apparently, more than one time

[@DubhghlasMacDubhghlas]

@Wyatt Earp You must missed near the end of video where there was embezzlement discovered done by the dictator.

[@doesanythingmatter1326]

@Wyatt Earp if you're willing to commit genocide you're corrupt

[@paullangton-rogers2390]

Gruesome.

[@doesanythingmatter1326]

@Wyatt Earp would you prefer mass killing instead? Plus you ignored the the guy who commented below you, and my statement about corruption.

[@frateranpvbail-shm6912]

Blessed be your grandfather for borrowing them his truck! In a Dictablanda, you get your truck back.

[@marjoriegillespie3219]

Lived with mom,wanted to be an artist, became a soldier...sounds like another dictator...

[@jthemagicrobot3960]

don't forget - brought up Catholic

[@historiculgeomocule5569]

Dictators are as dictators do. They all seem to have been brought up under weird circumstances. Also, quite a few wanted to be artists and joined their countries militaries.

[@taskdon769]

So were you saying that Pinochet has also enraged his father, who punished him severely?

[@sebastianhartung4407]

so, in consequence, in order to curb extremist and dictatorial tendencies all we'd have to do was fund art programs better? definitely sounds good to me

[@4G12]

@@jthemagicrobot3960 Ever wonder why the Christian cult, once persecuted for shits and giggles by the Romans, ended up as Constantine's and Rome's official religion? Because it's perfect for indoctrinating people into sheep not capable of critical thought and enables the sort of power concentration by singular individuals rivaled only by Confucianism.

[@TTCanadaJapan]

Give a man a parachute and he'll fly for a few minutes Take away he's chute and he'll fly for the rest of his life

[@augustopinochet1670]

Funny meeting you here.

[@chad2522]

@@augustopinochet1670 Based

[@goyoelburro]

Give it a try on me big man😂 I'm Chilean and my daughter's uncle was killed by Pinochet's govt. This is my real name. I live in Pacifica, CA Please contact me. I'm EAGER to "Make your acquaintance" and see if you have the courage to say this to my face. Shitstain.

[@xeon39688]

Commies and helicopters go hand in hand

[@augustuswade9781]

>35k tortured during the regime Stalin and Mao:"Look at this virgin boio xaxaxa"

[@acceleration4443]

Fernando M Wasn’t the ex president of chile... literally raped by a dog under Pinochet’s watch lmao. Yeah, no ur lying lmao.

[@hughmungus1767]

Kisen Liang - Stalin and Mao each tortured and killed MILLIONS of people and died in their own beds of natural causes.

[@augustuswade9781]

@@hughmungus1767 by natural cause you mean: >Having a stroke and your colleague refuses to provide you with medical care and they gather around to watch you die in agony in person. >Having your wife and relatives wiped out once you die. Worst still you know this will happen but are too weak to do anything about it. Politics were messy

[@devourofkidneys980]

@@augustuswade9781 the reasons the doctors didn't treat Stalin was because they were terrified of him and thought that he would have them and their families sent to gulag or straight up murdered

[@augustuswade9781]

@@devourofkidneys980 that was pretty obvious I'd say

[@gsf67]

Chiang Kai Shek, formerly the leader of the Republic of China in China, and then in Taiwan is a character even more divisive than Pinochet. Could Biographics consider doing a bio on him?

[@rhodesianwojak2095]

broke roc woke qing

[@gsf67]

@@rhodesianwojak2095 many say he lost China

[@melbournemickoz8078]

I went looking for that one today hope they do it soon ;)

[@tonytonez3769]

Sun Yat-sen

[@jazzkat32]

I agree that would be a good watch

[@sativaxr2818]

Cuba : you’re fit for trial Pinochet : nah I die now

[@rjjacob101]

Dead is better than jailed.

[@germanyoutube4492]

He was literally scared to death

[@HeyGuy4321]

Pinochet for life

[@hueyfreeman1983]

@@HeyGuy4321 hes rotting in hell

[@endurovro]

@@hueyfreeman1983 He’s waiting for you. After all, there aren’t any leftists in heaven to torment.

[@imdrum6881]

As someone living in Chile and being raised hearing scary stories about Pinochet, the whiplash I'm getting by hearing Simon call him "The Donkey" is spinebreaking

[@noone3272]

Wasnt he great guy?

[@imdrum6881]

@@noone3272 Well, it depends a lot where you look at it. Many people disappeared during the "dictatorship" (it's still debated if it is) whos causes may have been related to him, and at least I was told that he actively chased some families that may have been related to communism. That's kind of the great divisive point, however, because it's simply what my (and other) family tells, those who were negatively affected by his governing. Other families' situations were improved significantly, and as such they hear of him exactly like that, as a great guy, and because (my, at least) school focused far less on the topic than it should've, it's still rather unclear. Tl;dr: Yes, _some_ think.

[@imdrum6881]

@@noone3272 Yeah, that's why it's debated if it was an actual dictatorship. He improved economy, but in terms of living conditions, only some were helped while others starved. Now, the communist thing was a process much like McCarthysm, were the accused likely weren't communists - most were forced to leave the country, in fact, and with very little money. Why I said "scary stories" is because of those people. And, well, isn't calling any political figure the "good guy" an inherently absurd thing? Pinochet was neither a good or bad guy, just a guy who simultaneously improved the economy and made it harder for some people to live here. What I mean with divisive, however, is that even nowadays there's much political discussion about the topic, especially surrounding the Constitution made under his command and what should be changed (as a new Constitution was approved, wether I like that or not) or completely remade, and as such there's much conflict and protesting from both parts which causes plenty of damage - again, be that justified or not, I'm not the one to say. I'm merely saying that explains the "good guy - scary stories" mechanic, if that makes things clearer!

[@noone3272]

@@imdrum6881 yeah. But I'd prefer fascism over communists. He's a lot like Francisco franco. Franco too came because he saw Republicans being puppets of communists and communists take over the nation. I think Communism has a better reputation than fascism because the main fascists lost the war.....

[@imdrum6881]

@@noone3272 That is not my place nor my intention to argue about. I simply hope I could make my comment clear!

[@MarkSmith-to7xi]

You missed out the part where only general Pinochet and Chile would help Britain during the Falklands conflict

[@michaelquinn8064]

SO? LIKE WE COULDNT BEAT ARGENTINA ALONE LOL

[@michaelquinn8064]

ARGENTINA NO GOOD AT FIGHTY

[@MarkSmith-to7xi]

@@michaelquinn8064 without Chile's help we would have lost many more men and ships, Argentina had far superior man power but they used mostly conscripts on the Falklands and kept their proper soldiers to defend the borders against Chile and us (Britain)

[@Altrantis]

@@michaelquinn8064 British authorities have said, since the declassification of the documents, the task force couldn't have won without Chile's help. The Argentinian air-force was actually good, and the Brits were losing planes at an equal rate as the Argentinians, which the expeditionary force couldn't afford. This was only stopped thanks to the intel from Chile with radar, so the Brits knew when the Argentinians were coming. Chile also placed a lot of troops at the border which made Argentina worried so they put their professional elite mountain troops (which would have come handy in the Falklands, evidently) on the chilean border, instead sending conscripts to fight the professional British troops.

[@MarkSmith-to7xi]

@@michaelquinn8064 I'm guessing your pretty young because never in all of mans existence has war/conflict been that black and white, there are so many different factors involved and then there's cost, war is extremely expensive, but Chile deserves some credit here, as thanks largely to their help it stayed a conflict and didn't become a war

[@eriknervik9003]

“The most repressive regime on the continent” Alfredo Stroessner has entered the chat

[@cucabeludo9342]

Emílio Médici

[@mfmf100]

And General Videla.

[@hyperm8]

Trujillo: am i a joke to you?

[@aregularperson7573]

Fujimori:LET ME INTRODUCE MYSELF

[@regiepirotarum2893]

until the moment when communism has not yet triumphed

[@TheBigBadBeowulf]

"-9.8 meters persecond squared" Augusto Pinochet

[@bpj1805]

@Franc Usually one defines "up" as the positive direction along the z axis. Under this convention, the acceleration of a commie heading towards his proper fate is, in fact, -9.8m/s². The acceleratiion vector switches back to positive z value at the fateful moment, but only for a millisecond.

[@bcubed72]

@@bpj1805 This is clearly the correct answer, and it's a shame that you only have roughly the same number of likes as the ignoramus you're responding to.

[@andresherrera1630]

Man, I’m chilean, and I’m happily willing to answer any questions . While facing the eve of the 50th remembrance of the day in which the coupe took place in 1973, watching the government palace of my nation engulfed in flames and being bombarded by Hawker Hunters shivers me, as well as the last speech given by Allende by radio minutes before he pulled the trigger against himself. In an unfortunate series of events, the Chilean nation was put in the situation in which there was only two options to choose, and both of them were nefarious. That date still divides the entire society when it comes to politics and elections. Sadly, the consequences of both paths would end to be ultimately nefarious. Once again, the people had to pay the price for having unsuitable rulers

[@andresherrera1630]

Also, it should also be noted that the Allende’s administration’s legal observance of the Chilean 1925 constitution is a controversial topic. In spite of that, there is a general consensus within the legal community that the Fundamental Charter was infringed due to the persistent invocation of Legal Decrees (“Decretos Ley” in our legal jargon, which lack of democratic legitimacy, here referring to Böckenförde ideas about the topic) as a legal base to justify affecting property rights (mainly referred to industrial property), in order to accomplish the transition to a socialist economy. Obviously, this situation enraged private national and American actors (specially those who had rights and interests over the national copper and gold mining industry), reaching the point in which even powerful Chileans such as Agustín Edwards began contacting the White House - I mean, Henry Kissinger - to overthrow Allende. That is an important part of the story not mentioned in this video, although the thoroughness of the investigation demonstrated astonishing, they tell historic facts that I didn’t even know about

[@lcdream4213]

Are the majority chileans still socialist to this day?

[@LOLelpepe]

​@@lcdream4213Nope, socialists are seen as bad people in the cold war sense. Chile, day by day, becomes more and more right wing and even sadder, leans into fascism

[@lcdream4213]

@@LOLelpepe damn

[@LOLelpepe]

@@lcdream4213 yeah it's so stupid, bc like always none of the people who hate socialism know how it works. They think socialism is when the government helps people

[@randylahey8434]

So Pinochet had more integrity than the EU... Interesting.

[@theshocker4626]

Happy Brexit Day

[@marisanya]

Why are libertarians consistently morons

[@brianh2447]

@@marisanya well, right-libertarians

[@emrekara7837]

Libertarian? That explains your stupidity.

[@DavidAtomic]

Finally, a video on Mr. Helicopter

[@wb6wsn]

Davidatomic: Who, Vic Morrow?

[@tatianalyulkin410]

Are you referring to their helicopter executions? Be careful- Zelensky might steal his ideas!

[@Dogt4nk]

Could you do a video about Fransisco Franco and the Spanish Civil War? Very interesting video as always Simon!

[@yungyahweh]

I would love to see a video about revolutionary Catalonia tbh

[@pedroberrizbeitia6351]

@@yungyahweh And Euskadi (the Basque Country of Northeast Spain), of course! Euskara bihotzean baina erdara ezpainean!

[@louispd6828]

@Zero Cool "se lo gano , selo ganoooo!!!!!.".....jajajaja...

[@reinaldoalvarez]

yeah this should be "dictators and monsters" week!

[@rhodesianwojak2095]

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[@rasplez9889]

I studied art, but have no fear people of the world; I got a degree.

[@aethelwolfe3539]

Fleur Agnes actually passed Architecture School. There’s hope for your career yet.

[@soiledhalo2296]

Would love to visit Chile one day.

[@kanacubana827]

Very beautiful country with good people. It's worth the visit

[@avant79]

If you ever do, check the South, thats the beauty of Chile

[@catab1234]

The South of Chile is an absolute treasure. Santiago is beautiful as well.

[@Pacheenee7]

Hope you have a taste for mayonnaise.

[@historiculgeomocule5569]

Yep, Chile is a beautiful country, just like most of South America. Though, I don't know how stable Chile is.

[@mbrad8544]

Not a fair or balanced analysis. You fail to discuss the role of the country’s congress and the coup.

[@johncarlisle2755]

Tell us

[@jonm3024]

@@johncarlisle2755 I wrote this up for another purpose, but it focuses on some of the reasons that Allende´s government was a threat to the Chilean people and the situation wasn't black and white. I thought maybe it would help you. 1) Congress, upon electing Allende president, did so on the condition that he sign a formal document declaring that he not bring the country into Socialism & Communism. I’m pretty sure it stated that such acts were grounds for removal from office too. (As Allende didn't achieve an absolute majority, the decision of who would be president fell to congress) 2) Allende was overstepping his authority to forcibly bringing Chile into a fully socialist and communist nation. 3) Left wing extremists were assassinating their political opposition throughout the time that Allende was in Power. 4) Congress and the courts declared that Allende was overstepping and requested that the military remove him from office. Meaning that in this case, the coup was legal and constitutional. (For example, would you say that it was illegal if Trump lost in his impeachment process, didn’t step down, and the military was forced to remove him? This is actually a pretty close parallel to what happened in Chile.) 5) When this decision was taken, there were arms being shipped from the Soviet Union and their puppet states in order to arm Allende’s army effectively initiating a civil war. 6) The Chilean economy was collapsing under Allende, there was a food shortage, and malnutrition was a real threat for many. 7) The justification for not having elections after the coup was that democracy had just failed to provide a government which adequately protected the population. This may not be enough to justify the removal of democracy, depending on where you stand. But, for many Chileans (maybe even a majority at the time), it was. 8) After like 18 years, and after a vote, Pinochet peacefully and willingly returned the country to democracy. This is something that I don’t think has ever happened under any other Latin American Dictatorship (even if it may have been overdue after 17ish years - this issue is still hotly debated in Chile). 9) While it is undeniable that Pinochet was brutal in his treatment of his political opposition, so was his opposition. Many here in Chile believe that Pinochet saved Chile from a worse fate, that being communism. This position is seconded by many who live in other Latin American countries where dictatorships haven’t relinquished power and the consequences of those regimes were much more dire (Venezuela, Argentina, Colombia, Bolivia, Panama, etc…).

[@Makikylu]

@@jonm3024 Hey, where did you find that Allende signed a formal document declaring that he not bring the country into Socialism & Communism? Can i have a link please? I would love to share that with my chilean family.

[@bigles9083]

@@jonm3024 there's a lady I know from Chile.She describe to me was going in they declared Marshall law or similar came into there home said they needed only one vehicle took the other.Any bedrooms empty had to be used for others .Her family exiled to US I guess this was under Allende she didn't say but in that time period.

[@lesserson2182]

Strange aspirational take on Allende in this. Not one mention of the things his government did, no explanation for why a coup in a country with a long democratic tradition was successful and accepted. Maybe do a bit more on why Allende's government was not popular (same old communist story: land collectivization that was supposed to uplift the peasant classes did exactly the opposite, famine, political executions, etc. You get the idea) And the idea that pinochet was in some way more heinous than other people of his type. His dictatorship was bloody, but resulted in democracy and one of the best economies in Latin America. Which is again portrayed in a negative light. Look, income inequality is an issue, but would you rather everyone be poor and starving and therefore there is no income inequality? Or would you rather there be a wealthy class, a middle class, a lower class, and a poor class? Under Allende they had all the corruption and violence, but none of the food, the prosperity, or stability of Pinochet's dictatorship, which eventually gave way to a stable democratic society with a functioning economy. I love these, but this one seems a bit one sided.

[@yousefseed1874]

Pinochet: *exists* Commies: Why do I hear helicopters in a distance?

[@OldSkoolWax]

Edgy

[@aloshyreji4313]

Why am I falling freely??

[@nguyenhuy2163]

Most of the people who were executed were only dissidents to his rule or his former friends, not proven Communists.

[@summitlb123]

@@nguyenhuy2163 no it was mostly commies and less than 2000 people. He was a great man.

[@MariaMartinez-researcher]

@@summitlb123 Sure. Over 300 children. Pregnant women whose babies never were found. Musicians guilty of creating children orchestras and singing about poverty and injustice. Chile was a country where miners were massacred for asking a raise. 1970 was the first year all adult population had the right to vote, and one of the first ocassions the landowners couldn't force their tenants to vote for their preferred candidates. There was still babies dying from hunger, and barefoot kids begging in the streets. Allende's government pioneered in things like having the farmers becoming the owners of the land they worked, increasing the access to education, giving milk to every Chilean child. Sure, the horrible communists deserved death for that.

[@johnglover5071]

You don't what you're talking about. Pinochet rescued Chile .

[@bubba418]

Lol

[@solid_rooster4587]

Nope

[@RobertIsMusic]

You forgot to mention that Salvador allende was a USSR informat before he was elected.

[@kingofbadgers3019]

You got a source for that, cause I would be very careful making those types of claims with the amount of disinformation the junta and the CIA put out.

[@RobertIsMusic]

@@kingofbadgers3019 The source of that claim is KGB archivist Vasili Mitrokhin. Christopher Andrews wrote a book about it.

[@kingofbadgers3019]

@@RobertIsMusic cheers I'll give it a look

[@rhodesianwojak2095]

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[@2prize]

ok that justifies a bloody coup

[@dolanusduk693]

Can you make a video about admiral general Aladeen? Nah just kidding, but a vid about L. I. Brezhnev would be interesting. Edit: Thanks for the Aladeens!

[@odinkarrtheviking8274]

Admiral General Aladeen, good choice 👌😂

[@RazgrizWing]

No seriously he should do aladeen

[@MorningGI0ry]

That would be a great April fools joke

[@pauls9331]

Very aladeen choice

[@kwanele.gumede]

😆😆😆😆 Aladeen

[@AverytheCubanAmerican]

Do a vid about Turkmenistan's Saparmurat Niyazov aka "Turkmenbashi" and Gurbanguly, both crazy leaders. Comparable to North Korea but replace nukes with natural gas

[@dakf660]

Good choice

[@CodytheHun123]

Dude builds an ice palace in the middle of a desert...genius

[@historiculgeomocule5569]

@@CodytheHun123 Yeah, building an ice mansion in a place where temperatures exceed 38°C ( 110°F ), really smart, NOT!

[@OnsceneDC]

I think you could pretty much do a composite of Central Asian dictators! Great suggestion through.

[@mariakelly5]

Oh yes, Simon, you HAVE to do one on the guy from Turkmenistan! Almost makes the Kim's look sane and normal.

[@WynnofThule]

2:38 last time we had an aspiring artist turned soldier turned head of state, it did not go well...

[@darganx]

House arrest? He was 90, where was he going 😂😂

[@kerriwilson7732]

We're not certain. His turn signal was on for hours; he seemed oblivious...

[@padraig5335]

@@kerriwilson7732 😂😂😂

[@edwardblom4217]

@@kerriwilson7732 sounds like a regular 90 year old, dont know why its a big thing

[@JonGee420]

Old Country Buffet

[@BattlestarZenobia]

If there was any justice prison

[@registeelix]

Simon! At 1 milly, you gotta do one of yourself!

[@JohnDoe-vn1we]

They said they have no interest on doing one on him. You can stop asking now.

[@historiculgeomocule5569]

Agreed!

[@Victor.-.E]

Look Rex, we know you have a hard-on for Simon. We all do. He's never going to do one of himself, so you have to do your own digging like the rest of us with huge hard-ons for Simon. Unfortunately, he uses Nord VPN. So far, I've discovered he has nice watches.

[@Biographics]

@@Victor.-.E Stay safe. Use Nord ;). I use it to access Skillshare while, while wearing my GlassesUSA glasses, while drinking a glass of wine from Bright Cellars. No doubt.

[@kimjongun6746]

Simon: Pinochet was a good artist My mind: There was a man whi was also interested on art... his name is hitl....

[@eval_is_evil]

You know that you can say the name right? We're not in North Korea... . ... .....

[@storm7792]

There was a Tory party member interested in necrophilia and peodophilia. His name was jimmy saville. Doesn't mean theyre all sick fuckers though does it

[@DrummerMatt4253]

wow, what an incredible mind you must have for making that extremely low-hanging connection. please, write some more comments about it. the world must know how good your brain is at making extremely easy connections.

[@storm7792]

@@DrummerMatt4253 u talking to me you sarcastic prick ?

[@randallpetroelje3913]

Hahaha! What he could have done if he converted to scienctology.

[@ruthcisternas947]

Simon, you seem to know little or nothing about the REAL situation in Chile in the run-up to the military coup. The country was flat broke, exactly as Venezuela is today. Allende was governing by Presidential decree - in other words he was issuing new laws (decrees) without Parliamentary approval. As a result, the Chilean Parliament declared his regime unconstitutional; the Supreme Court did likewise, and the Contralor General de la Republica (a sort of Attorney General) declared his legislation broke the Constitution. He was NOT a democrat! Allende brought sympathetic military commanders into his Cabinet in order to control (and ultimately subvert) the military. Too late, he discovered Pinochet was not a stooge. The real betrayer of Chile was Allende; Pinochet acted in the interests of his country and is the only dictator - to my knowledge - that has returned a nation to democratic government through the electoral process.

[@wisecoonie]

This does not in any way pardon his crimes against humanity. Get a moral compass, will you? You’re badly in need of one.

[@WhyWhydaguy]

Pfffft. Not going to mention his role with the colonial dignidad cult

[@polyglot8]

I clicked on your TITO video because it was a subject I knew little about, and enjoyed your laconic delivery style; so the next up in suggested clips was this one on Pinochet. However, I happen to something about this, having lived in Chile during some of this period. In short, although Pinochet was certainly no saint, this is not a balanced effort - poor, in fact - but I just have a few things to add to what "Jon M" (under "M Brad") wrote below: 1. Because the opposition was split and no run-off was prescribed, Allende managed to become president with a plurality of 36.6%, which you cited. However, what you failed to mention is that his share of the popular vote actually declined since the prior election (which he lost because the opposition wasn't split). In other words, less Chileans voted for Allende in the election that he won than the one that he lost. This is hardly a vote of confidence to grant a mandate to change the entire economic system of a society - and yet he plowed ahead anyway. (And interestingly, you say that Pinochet resoundingly lost the plebiscite with "only" 40%, which is still higher than Allende's 36.6%!) But in spite of not having a mandate for drastic change, Allende allowed Fidel Castro, a foreign head of state, to overstay his Visa and tour Chile unchaperoned with his own security detail, commenting on internal Chilean politics all along the way, especially that Chile was "in a Revolution". 2. You said that, "During Allende's years in office things (Chile's Economy) had only gotten worse, although it's debatable whether that's due to his left wing policies or to the CIA constantly trying to instigate a coup." It's the former of course! The CIA spent peanuts in Chile. Allende's nationalization at the factory I used to work at, for example, caused both productivity and quality to plummet, as "management" could no longer enforce any aspect of the running of the plant. Another example is that Allende tried to "partialize" agriculture by handing out sacks of seeds to small farmers. But many of them just turned around and sold the seeds back to the large tract holders so that they could make spot purchases of consumer goods. 3. You said that with Pinochet, "everything that wasn't bolted down was privatized". In fact, by far the largest economic asset in all of Chile, the Chuquicamata Copper Mine, which had just been nationalized by Allende, WAS NOT RE-PRIVATIZED by Pinochet. He paid an internationally negotiated settlement to the prior owner, but kept it nationalized. 4. You said that the Chicago Boys ushered in "the most extreme free market policies in history". Well, I worked in an industry that had two small competing factories owned by multinationals, one American, one Japanese. These two plants, minuscule by international standards of that industry, were protected by a 28% import duty under Pinochet, or else they would have lasted two minutes. Milton Friedman would have never supported an anti-Free Market government policy like that. 5. You said, "... businesses were given unfettered access to all parts of Chilean life." What does that even mean!? 6. Although there is inequality in Chile, it is one of the least unequal in Latin America thanks to the fact that Pinochet's sixteen year "place holder" rule obviated the economic devastation that Communism would have wrought. But in many respects, Pinochet wasn't just a place holder. For example, under the prior regimes of Allende and Frei, they built closely spaced East Berlin style "Plattenbau" high rises that inevitably became slums within a few years. Because Chile had no shortage of land, Pinochet build streets of small houses for the poor (who could get subsidized loans) on the outskirts of cities. This approach had two advantages: A) by not being strict on zoning, the front room could double as a business by day, and most had some type of business (seamstress, quick mart, etc.) front facing the street; and B) thanks to the subsidized bus system, this allowed the poor to create their own life and still be able to work by day in the homes of the middle class and wealthy; whereas in other Latin American countries, "servants" live in small quarters INSIDE the homes of the wealthy, and thus are always kept down and can never have their own business or build up asset value. 7. The Chicago Boys also initiated a federally administered private pension system that has since been copied the world over. It also created a long term savings or "pension consciousness" among the poor. When I went to hire a maid (as a foreigner, not having one would have been derelict to the poor), no potential maid would even consider not going legit - I had to go wait in line at a government office to obtain her pension voucher book. This is so unlike our "gig" economy here in the U.S., where so many are willing to work without any pension plan whatsoever. 8. Following the bloodshed of the initial period, which was basically a civil war, Pinochet's rule was relatively benign. Despite being a General, Chile's military budget under Pinochet as a % of GDP was quite low - much lower, for example than that of our "democratic" U.S. He never created an ideology or party apparatus or cult of personality or hyper nationalism or extreme reverence for the military as Fascists do. The annual parade where the military marches in German inspired uniforms is no more militaristic than France's Bastille Day parade in Paris. I went to comedy clubs where the comedians roasted Pinochet. There was never a fear that someone from the regime was monitoring. 9 Pinochet never moved to the palace and continued to live with his wife in the same middle class house in the same middle class neighborhood. On either side of his street was a simple wood plank spanning two saw horses and a couple of military police - laughable by the standards of protecting the U.S. President. I visited Guatemala during this same period and the private security and guard houses on an equivalent street was much more extensive that what Pinochet had. 10. They said he embezzled a few million dollars over sixteen years - the worst estimate came out to a few hundred thousand dollars per year, a joke really, when you're enjoying absolute power. Compare that to our recent governor of Florida, Rick Scott, who took away $60 million from the company he chaired, which was convicted of steeling hundreds of millions in Medicare fraud (and he's now a senator!). If Pinochet had just taken a small % of the revenue from Chuquicamata alone, he could have amassed a fortune, like the Saudi Monarchy does with Aramco. 11. Despite military rule, there was no culture of corruption in Chile. I was stopped for speeding and various other traffic violations while there and my interactions with the police were always respectful and on the up and up. By contrast, I easily bribed my way out of similar situations - at the behest of the police officers themselves - in Brazil during its military rule. I was also a salesman to the Chilean military and met with low level purchasers on bases, -Captains and such. It was super easy to get onto a base, even to cold call; and if you found yourself lost and in the wrong part of the base, they helpfully pointed you in the right direction. By contrast, if you've ever been on an American military base, you'd think we're at war, and any violation could get you frog-marched off the base. 12. Pinochet readily accepted the mediation of the Pope in its dispute with Argentina over Tierra del Fuego, and Pinochet was ready to cede land to Bolivia so that it could again have access to the sea - which was blocked by democratic Peru (who would have ceded an equal strip of land). What Fascist does those things? 13. I attended various demonstrations against Pinochet out of curiosity and in the worst cases, there was tear gas and water canon - certainly no worse than what you see at demonstrations in France (les Gilets Jaunes) today. And keep in mind that when I was there, communists were still blowing up electricity towers feeding Santiago. Also, to put things into perspective, Pinochet mainly exiled opponents (like Patricio Aylwin). Thus on a per capita basis, using Amnesty Intl's own numbers, three times as many died under Argentina's Military than under Pinochet in Chile. And lastly, you said that after the plebiscite, "The Generals they knew something that Pinochet didn't. They knew that the U.S. was already piling on the pressure". I was there during this time and it was well known that the U.S. was supporting and even funding the opposition. Statements by the U.S. Ambassador to that affect appeared frequently in local newspapers and there was quite a bit of overt tension between him and the Chilean Government. To say that Pinochet was unaware of this is ludicrous. And you imply that he dickered before accepting the result when your own video shows that he went on T.V. within hours declaring his acceptance. Throughout your video is this notion of ridicule at the fact that Pinochet had some sort of lack of ambition and thin resumé throughout his life - but that's precisely the point - an ordinary man who had to take decisive action in extraordinary circumstances. And just as an aside, I knew someone who rented Patricio Aylwin's beach house one summer. Since my friend was also an American (and we're not used to servants), the "socialist" and future president Aylwin was worried he might tip the servants. So he told my friend in no uncertain terms not to tip them because that would spoil them!

[@mdnis]

I am your 4th up vote. You won’t get many more. We live in the information age, but who needs to be informed?

[@nicholasbrassard3512]

Probly the longest and most interesting post i've ever read on youtube. i've got to say, these are many things i didn't know about pinochet, thank you for bringing an alternate side to the story in a fashion that doesn't involve stating "those commies had what was coming". it's refreshing.

[@zerobyte802]

Great to hear things from someone who was actually there.

[@BlackStarWarrior96]

Pinochet and his regime were monstrous. Just beacause you personally didn't experience his wrath doesn't make him any less of a tyrant.

[@jonm3024]

Thanks for sharing!

[@dakf660]

This video did not answer what role Gus Fring played in the augusto pinochet regime 😞

[@nicolassagredo5786]

obviously crack and other kinds of drug dealing.

[@dres4n]

Gus don't look like a Chilean at all. Also, the military officers are pretty picky with your family origins so is uncommon to find someone with dark skin i the high ranks.

[@PawelSorinsky]

@@dres4n Well, there are blacks in Chile too.

[@dres4n]

@@PawelSorinsky sure, but is very rare in the officers ranks during the dictadure

[@heyyou7881]

I think Gus was born during the dictatorship and there is no birth certificate or something like thar.

[@JaakkoPeramaki]

Make a vid about Carl Gustaf Emil Mannerheim, man who led Finland througt ww2 or President Risto Ryti who took all the blame for allying Finland with Germany so others wouldnt need to suffer from the consequences

[@gamingwithsniperboinyc1993]

I'm a big fan of Simo Hayha the white death best Finnish sniper in the world

[@haffelbaffel123]

@@gamingwithsniperboinyc1993 they did a video on the white death.

[@christiand.j.1054]

Mannerheims military career is amazing. Aristocrat badass Hitler siding with. Also handels policy and politics amazing. National father of Modern Suomi-Finland

[@chip9649]

@@gamingwithsniperboinyc1993 check out TIK video on him.

[@rhodesianwojak2095]

@@chip9649 link?

[@RocketRoketto]

I know this is 4 years old but Simon really missed a grand opportunity to say "the donkey ruled with his iron hooves " 😂😂

[@NPC-bs3pm]

would be too complimentary to him. People LOVE to straw man their enemies. Personally I think Pinochet rightly so hated communists and their ilk. I'd be so angry if I lived through the ww2 era of monarchy assassinations and socialists of Europe domination.

[@Zeruel3]

You omitted one big thing about the 1988 referendum, Pinochet was so certain he was going to win that he actually let the remaining left-wing figures go on TV to speak for the 'No' side in a political debate. Ricardo Lagos represented Pinochets opponents in that debate and spent several minutes absolutely dominating the discussion and ripping Pinochet apart on his crimes. Watching it Pinochet was said to be 'climbing the walls' in rage but Lagos had become the figurehead of the opposition and he knew he couldn't disappear him without inciting mass riots

[@teresarivasugaz2313]

El dedo de Lagos

[@jackrobin1829]

Que No

[@GBWallace]

So, the horrible dictator let the opposition in media alive? what a monster

[@partidoindependencia9899]

@@GBWallace In fact, he allowed all the opposition to publish anti-Pinochet magazines and newspapers. More than 50% were of that ilk. Only the communist party was absolutely illegal until 1989. All parties were suspended until 1988. The present is just misinformed or lying.

[@Zeruel3]

@@GBWallace He was so arrogant and sure he was going to win he didn't think it would matter, turns out it did

[@gipsydanger7379]

Could you cover Vasily Grossman? One of history's greatest war correspondents. Who reported the war from Stalingrad. All the way to Berlin.

[@ManiSRao-bt3xw]

Have you read Anthony Beevor's book of Grossman's WW2 diary?

[@dambigfoot6844]

Pinochet was anti-Marxist and prevented Chile from becoming like Venezuela. Today Chile has one of best economies and standards of living in South America while Venezuela has one of the worst.

[@Ront1313]

And I am absolutely sure that the southamerican miracle could never have been posible without human rights violations or a fat swiss bank account(yes, I am being sarcastic).

[@dioro01]

Confirmo desde Viña del mar

[@johnfleming7879]

the Chileans I have met think Pinochet was a hero

[@RaulGarcia-vr1jx]

How many non rich chileans have you met? 🤔

[@RankinMsP]

It is also showing in the comments. Like Germans praising Hitler because of VW, the autobahns and the improved economy. Go figure.

[@RankinMsP]

@@Sugarsail1 which brutal methods did Allende use? I am genuinely curious. And if you think America wasn't busy trying to destroy the Chilean economy I have a bridge to sell you.

[@enclave1165]

Because he was

[@thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527]

@@Sugarsail1 the man whose regime tortured innocent girls and raped women was a hero?

[@darksydesamy]

Notifications are a blessing.

[@redman443]

I know you’ve done 2 Roman emperors already but could you guys possibly do Constantine? He basically is the founder of Christianity in Europe. Rome went from persecuting Christians to making it the state religion.

[@darthmcgee2216]

LOL! Someone has been watching conspiracy videos I see. Religion for breakfast covered this. Constantine just decriminalized Christianity he did not make it the state religion. Stay off the tinfoil hat websites. Emperor Theodosius I made it the state religion in 391 long after Constantine. You're welcome.

[@GBWallace]

Tito to Pinochet: Those are some rookie numbers, you got to pump this numbers up

[@luisalbertoarenasaraya4579]

Stalin and Mao say how cute boy.

[@BoneistJ]

The Great Betrayal? You misspelled Hero of Chile.

[@cristobalvillarroel2618]

Yes, the great betrayal, and also a murderer and a coward

[@teeraweejerapakpongsapak5206]

Seems like somebody want a free helicopter ride

[@zacharylewis2802]

@@teeraweejerapakpongsapak5206 I hear they come with free complimentary skydiving lessons.

[@RankinMsP]

I don't think real Chileans appreciate the murder and torture. At least not the ones I have met.

[@zacharylewis2802]

@@RankinMsP He splits Chile right down the middle. Both sides agree that he was authoritarian, but his supporters will argue that he left the country in much better shape than when he took power. The economy was the best in South America and he allowed for the peaceful transition of power back to democracy. His opponents will point to his body count and political repression.

[@danthemansmail]

I find nothing ironic about Pinochet friendship with Thatcher at all. To me, it makes perfect sense.

[@foxbodyblues6709]

Dan Harris amen - defeating communists is doing the lords work

[@foxbodyblues6709]

@Mike Luke the phrase goes: better dead than red. I’m glad Pinochet got to put that principle into action.

[@foxbodyblues6709]

@Soumyakanti Panda any argument that starts with “so you’re saying” is a strawman

[@corydawodu.]

The Falklands is the only odd thing

[@wisecoonie]

@@foxbodyblues6709 you chose your nickname well.

[@alfredjones6130]

Socialists: Free stuff Pinochet: Free Helicopter rides

[@Maximilian-Robespierre]

In fact it is capitalists that need free staff. Socialists need what they work for. Nice try fascist

[@RevolverOcelot79]

George A Way to show your ignorance. Socialism is all about the free stuff. Moron

[@DefendUSA1776]

Free helicopter rides are great for socialists.

[@honkhonkler7732]

@@Maximilian-Robespierre Can you hear the helicopters rolling in?

[@jalijali8448]

@@RevolverOcelot79 If only someone had told Pol Pot, he got it so wrong

[@cristasfoster1128]

I showed this to a great friend of mine I met on a flight who is 92 years old and Chilean. He said he laughed the whole way through and said, let me guess a bunch of Marxist made this video...

[@rocketman4123]

@@Erl0sung get in the heli

[@Amish_Avenger]

@@Erl0sung did you just tell a guy who actually lived through what to just drop dead? Are you an idiot?

[@stellaborealis4846]

Chilean here. My 4 grandparents all agreed that Pinochet saved the country, which was at the brink of communism at the time. Obviously, my 4 grandparents lived there and were there while everything went down, so they have a clear internal view of the facts. Same with my dad and mom. Under Allende, people were making kilometric lines to buy sugar, tea, and other basic necessities, only to get there and find nothing left because there wasn't enough of anything. If it wasn't for Pinochet, Chile would have easily ended up a Cuba 2.0. How do I know this?? because under Allende, Fidel Castro smuggled into Chile over 5,000 Cuban and Russian communists, ready for battle, who also smuggled thousands of weapons. They were going to do a communist takeover of the country anyways. I don't know about you, but prefer to have sugar in my tea, while not getting invaded by foreign communists at that. You sitting from the comfort of your home, making videos from your capitalist-based country, which gives you the opportunity to make money through an internet platform, would have never been able to do this under a communist regime. Also, you don't seem to be able to grasp what people in Chile went through during that time period. Chile was falling into a point of no return, and it wasn't gonna be a good one.

[@unnamedhero7543]

Fun Facts: Poverty skyrocketed in Chile after Pinochet came in. The economy collapsed massively TWICE. After that he massively CENTRALIZED the economy to save it. Also Allende had NO plans of taking over the country, that is an old lie from the cold war days we know to be false today.

[@ivann200]

Wow, that's a long way to say that you were brainwashed by your grandparents.

[@AhrkFinTey]

Oh yes why not have every democratic country taken over by a fascist CIA plant. Genius. If your grandparents support Pinochet then I'm sorry to break this to you but they were almost certainly fascists, or at the least members of the owning class who stood to benefit from his regime

[@lcdream4213]

You blame people for wanting basic human rights and treatment as communist enemies? Sorry you had to hear it from me but your family are actual facists, i'd be willing to bet you're quite well off economically in chile and that came thanks to the murder of thousands of nornal people who wanted a normal life

[@elquixotedelascanarias]

Mine also, I lived there then and this video is the common ignorant "well-researched" outsider view. It was a difficult situation and the guy had the huevos to do what needed to be done.

[@jagzin6147]

Augusto Pinochet’s free helicopter rides

[@samnelson4975]

Communist always want free stuff!

[@CuriousGene9]

@@samnelson4975 You're thinking of capitalists

[@thejason755]

*helicoptor idles in the background*

[@frateranpvbail-shm6912]

@Redsand libtard? I'm all for Dictablanda.

[@necromater6656]

While we are talking about Latin America how about a video on Argentinian president Juan Domingo Peron?

[@leonzoful]

You mean the one who fucked Argentina's economy so bad that they are still screw for it even to this day and accepted Nazis and Fascist from Germany and Italy after WWII? Yep it would be interesting

[@franciscoluisnoguera2490]

He is not worth it

[@necromater6656]

@@leonzoful I personally disagree but even from that perspective it would be an interesting video

[@GasparB123]

Peron is a really divisive character in Argentina and the world. He'd be perfect to cover in a video on this channel.

[@necromater6656]

@@GasparB123 My exact reasoning

[@joefoley1480]

your "Biographics" are so much better than Top Tenz in fact this is excellent well done Simon

[@nichi1031]

My dad lived through these events and emigrated into Australia with his mum and 4 siblings at the time. Pinochet is the reason why I've never met my grandpa. My grandma is half mapuche and half atacama, but was sent to retiro, one of those country towns the caravan of death drove through (retiro is also a place where the government forced indigenous people into). In 1978, Pinochet's forces kidnapped my dad, his brother and two of his sisters, his dad and my dad's grandpa. They forced my 10 year old father to watch his grandfather be hung, his sisters be raped and killed and his brother shot. He and his dad went through weeks of torture after that, and then were kicked out on the streets of Santiago. After being thrown around they survived miraculously in the warzone that was the streets of santiago at the time, hopped on the back of a truck going south and arrived in Retiro where they found my grandma, and started the immigration process to Australia. Something many latin americans might relate to this, but the generational trauma passed down to me and my siblings in australia has been awful. My grandma was very against white people, especially french people, when she moved to australia, and got really mad at my dad for marrying my mum (my mum is anglo australian). The things my grandma has told me sticks with me. Things like "White people can always turn on you". Honestly, I think it's the reason why I don't surround myself with white people commonly, unless its my family (obviously). I tear up whenever my dad tells me the stories. As a kid, I'd find my dad crying holding pictures of his siblings and grandparents and ask what was wrong but to think of the struggles he went through to get to where we are makes me so proud to be his child. Also how powerful my grandma is, which doesn't relate to this (she was taken from her family when she was 17 to try to "fit in with white people" because she is lightskin). She went through weeks of wondering if her family was killed. Whenever I've gone back to Chile my dad brings up things he went through in specific areas, my favourite and hardest hitting story of his being when he arrived at Cerro Santa Lucia in santiago, where he felt at peace for the first time in months. Unfortunately though, my dad's dad died of a heart attack at only 44, while still in his mother-in-laws house in Retiro. My dad has said this is because "A piece of his heart was ripped out in those weeks", referring to him watching three of his eight children murdered, as well as his father. That's my relation to Pinochet, and my thoughts. have a great day/night

[@fgsq]

I'm so sorry for your family's pain and all they had to go trough. The wounds this f*cking monster (and his wife, who was probably as bad or worse) left in Chilean society are still bleeding. I don't remember if it was last year or the year before that, but I heard my father for the very first time, referring to what my grandad had to go through as torture, even being rushed to the hospital to stabilise him, and then back to prison for more torture. Before that I knew he had lived in exile, and kind of deduced he had been tortured, as he was arrested for being leftist, but it was never truly said out loud. My grandad was "lucky", as he survived and went into exile. It freaking sucks that so many Chileans today are still denying everything, or worse, they recognize it, and still worship that m*therf*cker Pinochet as a savior of the country. Monsters all of them.

[@XZLR8N]

This man was very generous with his helicopter rides!

[@JohnSmith-oe5rx]

XZLR8N Free rides for communists, how nice can you be?

[@XZLR8N]

@@JohnSmith-oe5rx oh they paid a price for the ride

[@riotriguez5854]

Only for like a couple dozen commies, then he had to reoccupy them to get as many babies in his bedroom as any libertarian could dream for

[@scottydu81]

@@riotriguez5854 If you look around, it’s not the libertarians who are singing songs about coming for your children

[@riotriguez5854]

@@scottydu81 True, its the liberals. Glad we can agree on a common enemy

[@frederickthegreatpodcast382]

There’s a video by Lindybiege that tells the true story why Chile was a great friend to Margaret Thatcher

[@julianblake8385]

Which one? How do I find it?

[@timothyadams7599]

I surprised that he left out the name Paul Schaefer. He ran one of the most notorious death camps in Chile.

[@uncleruckus2974]

what ? david lettermans buddy?

[@qwertyuiopzxcvbnm9890]

It was a death camp with some brainwashed people living around it.

[@ronalddavis]

david lettermans band leader ran a death camp?

[@maximusmedia8412]

Still a lesser evil compared to communism

[@Contrarian-C]

@@maximusmedia8412 Communism wants rights for the workers and the oppressed, is that a bad thing

[@1066andallthat]

The video forgets to mention: -The senate and supreme court of justice declared Allendes regime uncontitutional and illegal and asked the military to intervene -The center left, center and center right wing parties celebrated the coup -The were over 3000 armed cuban "military trainers" in Chile at the time of the coup -Allende had illegaly imported massive amounts of weapons from Cuba and the soviet bloc, some of which were hoarded in his party offices and even in his own home -Most of the 3000 dead happened in the week following the coup, as there was a sizeable illegal army backing the marxist government -Losing by "only" getting 44% after 16 years of government, means that (a) people think you did a good job and (b) you didnt fix the vote. Now that doesnt sort of fit the narrative does it? -Yes, there is high inequality in Chile, but he fails to mention that Chile changed from being the third country with most poverty in Latin America to the one with the least poverty. And the inequality is not much different to that in the USA. -The video forgets to mention the level of violence that was present in Chile due to the marxist goverment doing nothing to stop, and in fact openly promoting, killing the men, stealing and raping the women of the middle class. The rich had already all escaped Chile.

[@brandonm949]

If people think you did a good job, you wouldn't have 56% of those people voting for you to not be in charge anymore. And inequality in the US is also very high. Comparing a country's inequality to ours is not a compliment.

[@tgptolemy20]

Communistic Allendes also started seizing private property and food stocks, when distributors refused to sell at his low fixed prices. Many more would have died under Allendes rule, because that is the very nature of communism, and Chile would be in much worse economic shape if Allende succeeded.......not only did Pinochet stop the spread of communism in Chile, he stopped it spreading to South America at Large

[@augustopinochet1670]

@@tgptolemy20 I did nothing wrong.

[@Bolognabeef]

@@brandonm949 yes lmao, it means that a country can have inequality but its citizens still enjoy an overall good standard of living, just like the US

[@alejandromaldonado6159]

@@brandonm949 Common sense exist, voting out a dictator doesn't mean you don't like the dude. Pinochet did his job.

[@TheLastSoundNL]

"A tyrant he was not." I mean, he still nationalized companies with only 34% of the vote. How does that go exactly? Do they willingly give it away?

[@Kapi.23]

legitimate president. Chile didn't have an "total mayority law" (50% +1). The first mayority if under that threshold, should be retified by the senate, which it was.

[@TheLastSoundNL]

@@Kapi.23 It is still taking people's businesses, what they owned and built up for themselves. That was all taken away. How does one take it away? By force of course. Fascism was legitimately voted in and made some things legal. Still not okay with what they did. Making it legal doesn't mean it's the right thing to do or not tyranny... It's the act itself that I have problem with. I consider that tyranny in and of itself, regardless of how he went about it or intentions.

[@paullangton-rogers2390]

A true socialist, and he wrecked the economy as socialists inevitably do with the obsession of nationalising and crushing market economies. He didn't need the CIA's help there.

[@jussayinmipeece1069]

why does "only 34%" of the vote matter? he was president? He had a mandate to run the country as he saw fit within constitutional boundaries.

[@jussayinmipeece1069]

@jacob bogers why am I getting the feeling you don't know how elections work.

[@nicolajrath1570]

It's worth noting that Chile's copper industry was kept nationalised and that one reason Chile's economy was terrible under Salvador Allende was that the Americas tried to screw it up by basically cut them off from loans and a lot of foreign trade. So when Chile got access to capital and more trade (so the copper the government owned could be traded) the economy improved. So that likely had a huge effect on its recovery

[@kokolada4272]

Pinochet is Evil dictator installed by USA that ofc ruined Chile for western agenda. Ez as that

[@AlejandroDinamarca-my6xo]

Thats an interesting point.

[@McZachary44]

Yeah, why would a capitalist government want to help out a communist/socialist one.

[@AngeloAmerigo]

Yo I am so thankful for this video I had a project that's due today and watching this video before it was a HUGE help

[@vensob6-qi8hb]

The title of the video announced fairness and objective journalism...

[@fununclenerfs]

And Chile lived happily ever after...wait what?

[@rotemplatino91]

@acammtt they are pretty much the same right now

[@sufimuslimlion4114]

@acammtt yeah Venezuela is facing decades of US economic war and political meddling and they're doing incredibly well surviving and providing when most other regimes would have collapses

[@mlpzmtt3769]

I live in Chile, born in Chile and I can assure you that Venezuela is in a much worse situation than Chile

[@vanities7374]

@@sufimuslimlion4114 Yeah. America is the whole reason that any country fails...keep believing that. Have you ever noticed that America's allies are rich? Have ever noticed that socialist countries are poor?

[@okinawatim3421]

Vanities what? Chile’s economy was booming under Pinochet. Whatever Pinochet did is the reason why Chile is one of the best countries in South America.

[@victorcabanelas]

Nice one! Being from Argentina, we have a tendency to focus too much on our own history and forget that things were also fucked in the region as well.

[@Sysyphony]

Hey Biographics! Since you guys are doing some videos on South American controversial leaders. I’d love for you to look just north of Chile to Peru. The same year Pinochet stepped down Alberto Fujimori began running Peru. The controversies of his legacy (and his current status in house arrest) still send ripples through the country. It’s a juicy story. I think you guys might like it

[@EhobbiesAI]

Pinochet not stepped down, he call to a Referendum in 1988. This process was set up in the 1980's Constitution.

[@jankubicek9109]

So much bias and so little actual info. Wanna free helicopter ride?

[@liltrump799]

Pinochet byl hrdina

[@tatianalyulkin410]

What ARE you still doing in Chile. Ukraine has such marvelous career opportunities for the ex DINA torturer. 😂

[@perezoso9206]

It should be said that as Allende had just 36,6% of the votes in 1970 election (less than 50,01%, or absolute majority), according to the Chilean Constitution needed to be confirmed as president by the Senate. So in order to get the vote of the Senate, Allende signed a document to the Christian Democracy party promising to be respectful to democracy and Constitution. But after being confirmed as president, Allende said in an interview that he had signed that document just for tactical reasons, because his main goal was to transform Chile from a liberal democracy into a socialist regime. So Allende was the real traitor in the story. He betrayed the Chilean democracy he had already promised to respect. I will add some more information that is well known in Chile about other ideas of Allende. The title of his thesis for becoming a doctor was "Mental hygiene and delinquency" where he stated that jews and gypsies were prone to delinquency. Moreover he also proposes a massive sterilization for alcoholics and persons with mental problems. These ideas would seem very weird today, but in the year in which Allende presented his thesis seemed very advanced, the year was 1933! The same year in which Hitler won the elections and got the power in Germany. All this appears in the book "Salvador Allende, antisemitismo y eutanasia " (published in 2005) by the Chilean historian and philosopher Victor Farias. Apart form that, there are other pieces of information about Allende's simpathies with the nazi, being president of Chile, Allende denied to Simon Wiesenthal the extradition of the nazi criminal Walter Rauff who at the time lived in the city of Punta Arenas in the south of Chile. So Simon, here you have more information for your biography of Allende.

[@marieapablaza2786]

stop trying to justify dictators wtf

[@rxnlfr7664]

Opino lo mismo ...deja de justificar al asesino. En 1933 las ideas racistas y de esterilización eran parte de un paradigma dominante. Después del holocausto dejaron de serlo. Este señor nacido 1940 Víctor Farias ha dedicado su vida a estudiar el nazismo y según él " derribar mitos" ....rencor, envidia, rivalidad política....en fin. Sr o Sra. Supongo que sabe que los países vencedores se pelearon a los científicos nazis, muchos países, ayudados por el Vaticano recibieron nazis. Latinoamérica es conocida por ser el punto final de la ruta de las ratas. Finalmente, veo en usted, un intento más de justificar lo injusticable. Feo, feo.

[@perezoso9206]

@@rxnlfr7664 Hartas falacias en su posteo. Primero científicos nazis no significa planificadores de muerte en serie, a esos no se los "peleó" nadie, y tampoco eran científicos, sino charlatanes criminales. Es curiosa su línea de división de ese "paradigma dominante" porque en ese mismo tiempo había mucha gente que se oponía a las justificaciones demagógicas del antisemitismo. Por ejemplo las miles de personas, incluyendo al Vaticano, que ayudaron de algún modo a esconder o trasladar a personas judías fuera del alcance nazi. Así que ese antes y después de la Segunda Guerra Mundial como evento para abrir los ojos frente al racismo antisemita es puro cuento y justificación de lo injustificable. Y sobre lo otro, es simple, en 1973 la gran mayoría de los chilenos queríamos vivir en democracia, no queríamos ser forzados a ser parte de ninguna revolución, tal como supongo usted mismo no querría vivir en estos momentos en la Venezuela chavista.

[@darthmcgee2216]

I find it quite funny how you dub Pinochet a monster yet were far kinder to Che Guevara and Castro who were equally as brutal.

[@Lukeor]

More brutal, because chile became rich and free. look at cuba now.

[@EhobbiesAI]

@@Lukeor Exacly

[@carlyfleming1855]

🎶I NEED A PINOCHET🎶

[@tatianalyulkin410]

Easy peasy. Move to Ukraine.

[@MagiconIce]

With you making biographics for all these dictators and monsters (and some other, more nice people), you could make a biographic about "El Presidente de Tropico" as an april fools' joke!

[@tuckersmoak6632]

I don't understand what he did that was wrong? Sounds like a pretty upstanding dude. Saved his country.

[@LeatherNeck1833]

This is sarcasm, right?

[@napoleonbonaparteempereurd4676]

@@LeatherNeck1833 No, these right-wing Capitalists are genuinely fascist-symphathizers

[@JorgeEmilio98]

US: We are here to guarantee every country in the Americas holds free and democratic elections. Chile: Cool, we want Allende. US: ... wat the FUUUUUUKK?

[@oxis77gas]

Start up the rotors!

[@robertpolanco1973]

Personally, I HATED Augusto Pinochet and his military junta for having ruined Chile in the course of 17 years and I wholly blame the CIA, Henry Kissinger, and the Chilean people, for allowing it to happen on September 11, 1973! It is such a pity that Pinochet was NEVER executed after he stepped down from power and with NO trial in Chile for his crimes against ordinary Chileans, Spaniards, and also various opposition groups as well! As for Henry Kissinger, the man who helped instigate the coup of 1973, with the aid of the CIA, was someone who had been allowed to live and walked around free till he died in 2023 and had no regrets about his despicable conduct in U.S. foreign policy on Chile among other things, too! What a pathetic tragedy indeed!

[@metapills]

Chile went from being the poorest country under Allende with 300% inflation to the most prosperous country because of Pinochet

[@Donfryesmustache]

Pinochet had his flaws, but with respect to his positive actions, he did throw Communists out of helicopters as well as revive the economy through economic liberalization courtesy of the Chicago Boys. I've seen worse dictators.

[@robertpolanco1973]

@@Donfryesmustache Pinochet was a completely ignorant and ruthless bastard who had the backing of the U.S. in its evil crusade against Communists and socialists like any evil person or group for that matter for 17 years! What you said is an example of utter stupidity and ignorance! Furthermore, Pinochet deserved NO RESPECT and he should have been overthrown when the Chilean people would have had such a chance! I also want to point out that the Chicago Boys along with that demented economic philosopher, Milton Friedman, totally looked the other way with Pinochet's despicable crimes in order to help the criminal dictator impose so-called "economic liberalization" in Chile as a price for such an example! So SHAME ON PINOCHET and others like Henry Kissinger for their evil actions! 😠🖕

[@fsmg1983]

Pinochet is a hero. Here the real tyrant who broke democracy, the rule of law and seriously violated the constitution was Salvador Allende. It was the same National Congress of Chile that declared Allende's government as illegal and illegitimate, with many leftist party votes even, in that declaration the armed forces were also called to overthrow him, this was on August 22, 1973. Allende, his government and thousands of terrorists served the USSR and Cuba, the plan was to establish another Marxist satellite dictatorship in Chile by armed means.

[@JB-dx7fk]

Woke trash. Honestly man, Pinochet was actually a hero... and why you people always bring up the damn CIA? You all just going to omit the fact that the KGB had their hand in it too? Supplying arms... inciting a civil war and to destablize Chile? It's funny, you woke people (aka Communists) always omit information. Talk over people that actually lived it and speak for them. You are funny. The woke are pathetic.

[@Ditmike2235]

(Insert joke about helicopter rides here)

[@TheLocalLt]

Damn Itmike *FREE helicopter rides

[@rodriguistamemer4406]

(Insert free car ride joke here in order to counter the helicopter jokes)

[@timvanrijn8239]

You could go rail and trai..... This comment was stoped due to its possible anti semetic implications.

[@jasonhenry5by5]

Who's joking ? It's exactly what leftists deserve

[@rodriguistamemer4406]

@@jasonhenry5by5 you righties deserve some explosive car rides.

[@southernpacific7200]

Pinochet nearly prevented Chile's national football from playing in the 1974 World Cup, after they qualified against the USSR, who withdrew because they claimed Santiago was a city under siege. The 2nd and final was supposed to be played at the National Stadium in Santiago, but was being used as a detention center where people were imprisoned, tortured, and executed. FIFA sent a delegation to the stadium, where they looked around and saw nothing irregular. The prisoners were hidden away while the delegation was present. The USSR national team was convinced otherwise and urged the game to be played elsewhere. FIFA delivered an ultimatum, to either game to Santiago or forfeit. The USSR ended up forfeiting and Chile qualified by default.

[@fuentinho416]

my grandfather was held at that detention center & games were played while prisoners we're kept below the rafters.

[@southernpacific7200]

@@fuentinho416 this really wrecked Chile's moral to compete in the World Cup, despite that they qualified through default.

[@aaronmarks9366]

@@fuentinho416 Damn, that's fucked up

[@LuisGonzalez-hs5pe]

The Comment Section is Epic.

[@frateranpvbail-shm6912]

And that @Biographics liked every Comment against Pinochet shows that he's a butthurt soycialist who distorts history to fit his personal narrative.

[@gonzalodohrmanngareis2493]

Frater ANPV BAiL-ShM highkey pinochet saved Chile his crimes are mild in comparison to Castro or Venezuela

[@frateranpvbail-shm6912]

@@gonzalodohrmanngareis2493 100% correct Also communists aren't people

[@Seeanwheresmyjumper]

@@frateranpvbail-shm6912 based

[@doesanythingmatter1326]

@@gonzalodohrmanngareis2493 i don't think you can justify genocide no matter who you are

[@5gonza541]

Without Pinochet Chile wouldn’t have achived a great economic success

[@fafa-ev4yp]

Make a video on Jorge Rafael Videla, Argentinian dictator or Francisco Franco, Spanish dictator during WW2, plz.

[@Grimmes12]

Franco "El Caudillo" lol I heard so much of him on Cuentame Como Paso

[@TheLocalLt]

Rafa Krz I’m making a video about Leopoldo Galtieri currently, it’s coming out in a couple of weeks when I relaunch my channel!

[@shawnsmith11]

Think the host needs a helicopter ride! Pinochet set Chile up for success

[@cobracollie3639]

Do one on Rafael Trujillo (pretty please?)

[@stingersplashentertainment3410]

Would be solid to see. Didn’t learn about him till I read a book called “The Dictators” by Jules Archer 1967.

[@Grimmes12]

Trujillo and Porfirio Rubirosa too...funny that you want Trujillo as I am Chilean and Domonican

[@rhodesianwojak2095]

Who?

[@pamcornelius9122]

My husband’s family lived in Chile during this time. Inflation was at 300% under Allende. Communism was a cancer that was spreading through South America in the early seventies. Pinochet had the unenviable job of trying to eradicate communism and restore prosperity to Chile. Luckily, he succeeded.

[@ihazplawe2503]

When did the inflations started then?

[@yankees29]

My aunt is from Chile and her family supported Pinochet. She said basically the same thing. The country was in turmoil under Allende.

[@tonyjemz777]

Castro took Cuba, Mao was murdering millions with his cultural revolution. Czechoslovakia was crushed under the Soviet regime, East Germany was held hostage by the Stasi and much more. Pinochet saved Chile! 🇨🇱

[@rooktroop3126]

@@ihazplawe2503 since ww1 with the creation of artificial saltpeter but allende only make it worse

[@thathalflatino]

Ummm he also killed and tortured his population. My mom had to hide under her bed as a child because soldiers were kidnapping people. America had a hand in his crimes by ignoring them. My grandparents swore to their grave that he was the devil incarnate. Some family of mine were personally tortured by his regime. One had his hands crushed for being outspoken against Pinochet.

[@eamonwright7488]

Maybe a video on Ante Pavelić-Founder of the Ustasha , Roberto D'Aubuisson ARENA party/Death Squad leader in El Salvador, or Vasily Blokhin (Stalins head executioner) or maybe the Poison Dwarf- Nikolai Yezhov

[@ashleyhyatt6319]

I have recently read a biography of Admiral Thomas Cochrane, 10th Earl of Dundonald. He was an extremely fascinating character with an amazing career! I wanted to request a video about him specifically here because of his part in securing Chilean and Brazilian independence from Spain and Portugal. If I recall correctly, the Chilean government still lays a wreath upon his tomb in Westminster every year.

[@ashleyhyatt6319]

@La Verdad As is said.

[@mihneabudan6117]

Great video lads as always! Good job! Do a BIO on Nicolae Ceausescu in the future please

[@KongSunWu]

​ Pinochet saved Chile from being turned into another Cubaor Venezuela by Allende. Pinochet is a hero

[@kartir4879]

I wish here in Iran we soon have someone like him in power. Iran is messed up after the revolution.

[@user-nb5cy1rd4i]

Hello Biographics team: You are one of the most interesting channels on KZbin and was wondering if you could please do one on Mikhail Gorbachev. It’s no secret that your audience is interested in history, and I feel like many people who weren’t alive in the late ‘80s don’t know who he is or how influential he was. He is I.M.O. one of the most important and controversial figures of the 20th century, who saw the fall of the Soviet Union when it was not expected and he has a very unique life to tell, and an odd relationship with a U.S. president that was quite bizarre. Keep up the good work!

[@marcschouten3527]

Very good suggestion Stefan and love your work!

[@abrahamnispel493]

I recognise that Pinochet was all that you said; however, if you criticise the current situation in Venezuela today, you should speak about the tough times that Chileans that do not belong to the left had to endure under the allende's regime.

[@kasiar1540]

Those "tough times" are caused by US sanctions and frozen assets in US banks. The US hate socialism and will stomp out the fair treatment of humanity wherever it can

[@Bjswac]

@@kasiar1540 there where no overall sanctions imposed on Chile, you ignorant twat

[@Bjswac]

Exactly

[@paulbarnard4856]

You advertise your clips as allowing the viewer to form his or her opinions on the basis of facts you present. Yet your commentary is extremely emotional.

[@pauljay5478]

Simon Whistler provides excellent narrative on this complex subject. Always keeping it entertaining as well as factual. 🇨🇱

[@Ace-ym9hz]

The Comments Section has Won🗣🗣

[@mariakelly5]

Long Live The Comments Section!

[@samnelson4975]

Death to Bolshevism

[@gu98marrafon174]

5:04 wow, my grandfather. Just kidding, but is cool to find someone of my distant family in the history

[@luisalbertoarenasaraya4579]

El Pino8

[@RichMitch]

Thatcher was always a shocking judge of character

[@j.mshrader4104]

Rich Mitch,old milk thief Maggie was a real scumbag her self.

[@procinctu1]

I guess communist murder factories are preferable.

[@acceleration4443]

That Guy “hey that guy’s gonna rob for 15000 dollars...” Proceeds to rob the person for 10,000 dollars.” Whether or not chile would have become a communist dictatorship isn’t known... (if u argue this point... can I also have tomorrow’s lottery numbers?)... Allende was way more peaceful with and respectful of opposition figures. This is why he did nothing while certain generals were OPENLY calling for him to be assassinated. The opposition party may claim to support free speech, but make no mistake... they’d killed you if they had the chance. Something smarter socialists and capitalists dictatorships learned. The US was arguably extremely close to this reality under john adams, and during the civil rights movements. Just say the opposition are criminals, who’s gonna prove it?... This is why socialists have purges and why America today lists BLM as terrorists and why the most influential black panthers were shot in their sleep/died to bombs.

[@procinctu1]

DB Cooper historically Marxist governments have killed off an average of 10% of the population of the countries they take over. Hence, communist murder factories. Allende NOT getting a chance to kill 10% of the population is a victory for Chile. In a choice of evils, a few thousands is preferable to hundreds of thousands. A video that uses the term “red scare” is usually leftist propaganda. US foreign policy in Central and South America was a choice of evils and preventing Marxist slaughter was a legitimate goal.

[@Nawkt]

@@procinctu1 So to prevent what idiots like you thought would be "Communist murder factories" they overthrew leaders to put dictators into power, who then killed millions and destabilized entire countries? That's the lesser of two evils? And the cold war era US was Red Scare 101. Anything left of a conservative was seen as a socialist/communist and was put on a hit list. I would also be interested in reading your research for Marxist governments killing "10% of the population."

[@_g7085]

"International Arrest Warrant" No thank you.