Birds got worse in Wingspan Oceania?! ft.

[@ABomm]

The 2x resources for playing a single bird in a forest/wetlands have radically altered the economy. Low point birds like mallard / gnatcatcher which gave an additional food/card now only give 50% more resources as opposed to 100% more resources (at level 2). Their effect has been greatly reduced and are certainly no longer 'must pick' birds on the early tray. Meanwhile birds that generate eggs, especially outside of the grasslands are even more powerful. In the base game, a card like western meadowlark was situational at best but now can increase your egg laying ability from 2->4 with minimal downsides, it's suddenly a card that isn't tuck fodder.

[@tuckNcache]

That’s a very nice analysis! Thanks for sharing.

[@Carutsu]

Hunters definitely need a buf although i do not know how

[@tuckNcache]

Predators are getting better with each subsequent expansion, which also makes the base game hunters seem a lot less appealing….I don’t think that can be fixed haha

[@magicmerl7749]

American Crow is arguably better in a game where the Ravens are banned, since he's a reliable Nectar generator (if you aren't building a Forest engine)

[@tuckNcache]

That’s not my experience so far. I find getting one food a turn is just not enough to keep up with the OE game pace.

[@magicmerl7749]

That's very fair.@@tuckNcache

[@SawyerFools]

I only play with my friends or against bots and I turn off both DLC. I think the game is just more fun with only base game.

[@Carutsu]

Wow. Oceanía is such a smoother experience for me

[@tuckNcache]

Seems like each expansion has it’s appeal and people get to customize the game to their liking, which is one of the things I like about Wingspan

[@luiscoelho77]

@@tuckNcache I like the oceania expansion but i dont like the nectar mechanic, i like nectar but it feels that put too focus on food. Its strange to me because i like it but at the same time i also like to strategise if i go pick food, not focusing on nectar is refreshing, meaning, trying focus more in build effently (picking the right food) instead of only playing big point bird, just because i can. Its different. I play with and without it sometimes.

[@radikarler1425]

​@@luiscoelho77Nectar is just a three point side quest most of the time. Its still about efficiency. But I can definitely see your point about the big/costly birds theyve gotten a lot better.

[@tuckNcache]

I still enjoy the variety of strategy that OE brings but I think that the introduction of nectar does take away some of the 'tight resource/food management feel' that I enjoy with base game.