Mark or Elizabeth, have you read "Hidden Life of Trees" by Peter Wohllenben? I have it in Kindle, read a few chapters a cpl years ago and now rereading d/t Undergrove.

It's official--I love Undergrove!

if u say that crows and killdeer/franklin seagull are the best, i think that you are not selecting good the A birds wether u play the lay eggs and play birds strategy. if u do so, u should choose birds of prey to be played in grass, and "when played" birds in the rest of the hábitats.

the BEST starting hand is the plover and the crow played un the plains. sure victory

I have been playing Wingspan for about 8 months now and this is my favorite of all games now other than Everdell Legends. You both are crazy informative and your tier videos are crazy good! Love your insights. Thank you for these vlogs.

I like making a ridiculous amount of eggs to win, its pretty easy to do too.

Great refresher tutorial, thanks for making this!

I've been playing the regular board with european. What would you say is a solid average score to shoot for? I've gone up to about 98-100 a few times, but most of the time i hover around 75-80

I didn't take the time to watch the whole vid, just checked the tier list at the end. For the most part, I agree with your rankings, except for two of them. Breeding Manager should be down in the bottom tier. Not even a question in my mind. It's an awful card. The other one I disagree with will be an unpopular opinion, but I think Oologist is over-rated. Most people consider it top tier, so I know I'm in the minority here. It's a good card, but it's not the guaranteed 6 points that most people assume. Sometimes, you have a game where you go for bigger birds that cost more to get out, so it's hard to hit 9 birds, and maybe not in the grassland where you'll get lots of eggs at once, so laying that many might be tough. Other times, spreading out your eggs in the final round might be counter to the final round goal, which wants all your eggs in a certain type of nest, or in a certain row, so going for the bonus card will help your opponent(s) beat you in the round goal. So I'd put Oologist in B tier, but maybe with an asterisk. Call it B+.

This is a legendary game ;-)

Good list: But how you you rank such a bad card: "Northern Shoveler" in C - Its a clear F ... Expensive costs and an effect without benefit for you because the other players draw also cards ....

I am surprised that you gave Canvasback a B. Thats a really bad card because all players draw a card , so its not an advantag. And 2 Foods is not extremely cheap .

Could you say that the pink birds are in a 2 Player game really bad and in a 5 players game a must have and overpowered ? So that is a bit dificult to rank these.

Where can I finde the tier list und whats a good score. I scored 68 in my second play , no idea if its great.

Just re-watched this one as I've been playing a lot more multi-player vs. one-on-one. There are birds that really aren't great on 1v1 that are significantly better as the number of players grow, particularly some of the pink and teal powers. It would be interesting to look at how Oceania has affected the usefulness of base and EE birds.

Just curious, do you plan to do new tier lists for the NA and EU birds on Oceania boards? I feel like they’d actually shift around a decent amount, there are some birds I rarely if ever use in NA/EU that I actually get tons of use from in OE (vultures, basegame dice predators, etc.) and others that while they were good or excellent already got even better (partridge, green heron, tuck-and-lays)

Wow, what an ending! Well played

28:45 wouldn't it be better to gain food, since you know that you will need rodent + woodpecker would give you the eggs to win the round Playing eggs is just 1 egg more, but -2 food, which is basically one action 39:45 same situation here, you need rodents and you are gonna use lay egg acrion in the last round anyway to get the grub, so wouldn't picking up food make more sense?

very very clear instructions. The fact I could see the board is a big bonus. Explaining examples of play were fantastic and concise. Tutorial: 5/5!

Finch in the grassland was better. Either way you trading 3 points for EOR for 3 points from nectar, except if he has a wetlands double bird he could win the EOR even if you play the finch in the wetlands.

You could have played the swansons hawk in grassland. Spent two nectar. Then discarded nectar for egg, swap out something in hand for chipping sparrow and waste no nectar

To answer the thumbnail, I think Spangled Drongo and Pileated Woodpecker still top the Wood Duck as single cards I'd rather have in the a starting hand, but getting a wood duck pileated combo is the dream. You got almost the same effect here with the chipping sparrow. Great game.

Instead of using rat to pay for eagle, you could've played another bird, then spent nectar to lay eggs

More and more, I'm seeing Keruru is a trap card. Here's my theory: If you have Keruru and you're up against a forest engine, then they most likely collect more nectar than you if their engine is stronger. If they are building in another row, then it can be very easy for your opponent to play around it. There is a very small sweet spot for Keruru where your opponent has a strong forest engine and you have 2-3 forest birds meaning you have decent food access without it, and can take the extra nectar when your opponent takes food. Its super niche in my humble opinion. Thoughts?

Could you put the window with your face in the bottom left corner? In the bottom right, we can't see one of the tray birds, or the worm or seed count.

You probably regret not spending egg for extra card especially when harrier missed on Galan

I love watching the games from each player’s perspective. It gives you a lot of insight into why certain decisions were made. Thanks for posting!

Is your full tier list available as a screenshot somewhere? Thanks for making this btw, it was a fun watch!

1:24 why do you pick your bonus card so quickly without talking about the other option? Large bird specialist would have gotten you 2 more points in the end

Great game!

Love your work, gentlemen!

Thanks for another most interesting and useful video. I really enjoy the relaxed, engaging styles of both you two gentlemen.

Black crowned night heron deserves a highest ranking imo. It's been crucial in some of my wins that have let me partly skip investing in the forest

Why not play swan off of finch?

20:00 Hey friend, northern cardinal only gives them a cherry, not you and they did activate it when they took food. That being said, I agree that may have not been the best bird for that situation. As always, thanks for posting your content :)

Just had a common raven on start and one cheap card draw power in wetland. So went grass and wet. Ended up with another grass that took food for tuck. That 3 card start engine on its own got me 60 points. The rest got me to 120+ (e g. And a few typical lay eggs birds, bonus card birds, high pounts, foid cash). Never took forest turn.

Why no gull before bushtit here? You don't use bushtit power turn 2 but could've used gull.

Asian Emeral can also be a 10 point bomb

Hello do you prefer the oceanea expansion over the original game? Also can you splash the oceanea expansion into the base game without using the oceanea board ?

I just watched this veritasium video about the number 37 and this was the next video i went to and the number of views on this video was 37 and now its 38, but i felt like this was quite the coincidence haha

I would maybe have picked partridge over coucal for the starting hand

It's Ruddy Duck, not "Rudy Duck".

The double eagles probably felt like a dagger

I was hoping that you play the hornbill after the welcome swallow, it can be a counter to his imperial eagle and level up the citizen scientist bonus cards.

For the last hand, I think I would have picked up Towhee, Blackbird, and Bobwhite, with cherry and worm because you can play Towhee, lay eggs and get the seed, then play Blackbird. The difference between the two starts is that one has a Bobwhite, which can be easily played later on thanks to the Towhee for a good grassland engine later in the game.

The second a in Galah is drawn out, not the first. Like Galaaah, not Gaala. Unfortunately the game pronounces it wrong too.

Only grubs is very hard. Food web is low b for me. Decent list. Ty.

Will this ever come to android/ios?

It's nice to know you are also playing this! I have the physical board game copy of this game and I can't wait to play this on my Nintendo Switch!