Bishop Barron on Marriage and Relationships

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Bishop Robert Barron

Bishop Robert Barron

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@user-ll7fv6tu7k
@user-ll7fv6tu7k 7 жыл бұрын
Married 12 years and I fully endorse Bishop Barron's message. To the extent my wife and I place God first in our lives, our marriage is like experiencing Heaven on earth. In the times we fail to put God first, life can get very hard and we begin to turn on one another. A marriage without God is like an airplane that loses its wings.
@ludmillagrabetz8085
@ludmillagrabetz8085 4 жыл бұрын
Well said!♥️
@hellodude5277
@hellodude5277 Жыл бұрын
Awesome comment!
@tinman1955
@tinman1955 11 жыл бұрын
"By all means, marry. If you get a good wife, you'll become happy; if you get a bad one, you'll become a philosopher." -Socrates
@JohnsonFE
@JohnsonFE Жыл бұрын
This made me laugh....because its true.
@BishopBarron
@BishopBarron 12 жыл бұрын
Thanks to both of you. I will pray for you.
@simtse
@simtse 13 жыл бұрын
I'm a Catholic and am engaged to be married next year. Fr Barron, though your answer is a standard answer to "Why do you wish to be married in a Catholic Church?", your answer is very strong and true. I want to find the fullness in my eventual marriage, and this continues to help me direct myself to God rather than just the two of us. Great work Fr Barron. Hope your talks in World Youth Day will be recorded and reposted on KZbin.
@BishopBarron
@BishopBarron 13 жыл бұрын
@wolf175 Come on, man, that's so simple-minded and unfair. Some of the greatest commentators on baseball never actually played the game, and some of the best military historians and tacticians were never soldiers. Attend, please, to the arguments I'm making and judge whether they're true or false. That's all that matters. And I could introduce you to lots of married people who would much rather go to a priest for counselling, precisely because he's more objective.
@patricianeese8924
@patricianeese8924 4 жыл бұрын
I will add, thank you God for people like you who knows the word of God and who knows how to help others understand it. I am not even Catholic but you make sense and I am so glad to have found you. You have guided me in my search for the true loving God.
@BIGBobJohn23
@BIGBobJohn23 13 жыл бұрын
father, i'm a struggling Catholic, however, your insight and knowledge helps me realize there is hope for me...its difficult, yes, but we all must "bear our cross"...much appreciated devoted fan
@Cafesighs
@Cafesighs 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks and blessings on your ministry Fr. Barron! You've been a model for me as I embark on my own journey in the priesthood. I'll continue to keep you in prayer as you continue the good work in the Lord's vineyard. Ad Multos Annos!
@arthurserino2254
@arthurserino2254 7 жыл бұрын
There is no such thing as being "married to the church". Aren't you the same zealots yelling about how the only true marriage is" between one man and one woman"? You can't even argue without contradicting yourselves, it's embarrassing.
@arthurserino2254
@arthurserino2254 7 жыл бұрын
I'm not lecturing, I'm simply pointing out a direct contradiction. By your own definition, the concept of being "married" to the church or to Jesus is absurd on its face.
@arthurserino2254
@arthurserino2254 7 жыл бұрын
I am catholic, but I am not a Catholic.
@arthurserino2254
@arthurserino2254 7 жыл бұрын
Look it up
@arthurserino2254
@arthurserino2254 7 жыл бұрын
No, look up the definition of the word, idiot.
@cindykelly8909
@cindykelly8909 10 жыл бұрын
Well done, Fr. Barron, my favorite communicator in the Church today.
@Okeezy-v7g
@Okeezy-v7g 4 жыл бұрын
Thank God for this message. as a person who was molested as a child, I never liked the thought of marriage because I had problems accepting motherhood. As a christian, cohabiting was not an option. I bought my copy of Three To Get Married early this year. I read and prayed. I read and prayed. I read and prayed. God is faithful. I got a new mind on the subject of marriage. Marriage is not about me, it is about God's purposes. Oh, might I add that I am not catholic; however, I cannot begin to explain the impact of teachings such as yours, and Ven. Sheen's on my life. Thank you, and keep doing what you do.
@1corinthians139
@1corinthians139 2 жыл бұрын
Amen praise to be to God Almighty! I hope to get the wisdom as u on this matter.
@bobboulos
@bobboulos 13 жыл бұрын
Gosh I just feel blessed so much every time I listen to a new video by Fr. Barron. I am thankful to God so much for all the articles, videos, sermons the Holy Spirit has put in his pastoral work. Thank You Jesus, Thank you Father Barron. Bob, Jerusalem Palestine
@russellbeck1774
@russellbeck1774 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! This is how to build a lasting relationship! Living it for the last 14 years and on into the future. Us Millennials as a group need to take note! 💪
@margiede2719
@margiede2719 10 жыл бұрын
This explanation of why a couple should want to marry in the Catholic Church is beautiful.
@BishopBarron
@BishopBarron 13 жыл бұрын
@iluvursmilevanessa Yes, I believe. Keep praying. Keep asking. Keep knocking.
@Wordforce21
@Wordforce21 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Bishop Barron, for your useful and interesting videos. It was actually by watching a video you posted about relationships that I joined a Catholic dating agency and met my beautiful wife! I hope and pray that your wonderful work may continue, and that many others may benefit. God bless.
@dwdetroit1
@dwdetroit1 7 жыл бұрын
Beautiful for sure. If only I suppose had come to know this truth, say 50 years ago. But, alas, today is more beautiful because I can see how much more this truth means. The sky has become more clear. May his Grace and Peace be with you FRB/BRB!
@maggiexiaominwu8242
@maggiexiaominwu8242 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Fr. Barron. This interview gave me light and tear at the same time. Much truth in it. Thanks!
@BishopBarron
@BishopBarron 12 жыл бұрын
It's in the Nichomachean Ethics, in the section on friendship.
@susanagamezvaldes812
@susanagamezvaldes812 7 жыл бұрын
I absolutely agree!!! Thanks!!! That’s the story of me and my husband. We met in the beautiful United States. We met our Transcendent third. And together, the three of us have raised 8 children, and 2 more that are waiting for us in Heaven. God bless you, bishop Pray for us 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
@cbumgmtinc7864
@cbumgmtinc7864 5 жыл бұрын
God Bless Married in Church for 22 years this coming June. Jesus is Center of our Marriage. Amen. And we rare in love every day with HIM and with Each Other and make a difference. in the world.
@DavidMatias79
@DavidMatias79 9 жыл бұрын
I wish I had this knowledge before I got married.
@missbellestar
@missbellestar 13 жыл бұрын
Your are right Father, when I got married 12 yrs ago, I never thought of all these, although my spouse and I are very much imperfect, but we compromise and came back forcefully with God's help, in prayer and penance, then everything went back to "order" our marriage was convalidated (2010 Divine mercy Sunday)in Catholic church in obedience to the Priest in the confessional and it brought us so much peace in our life, through marriage in 4 because we consecrate our marriage to the Mother Mary.
@antonyxavierpawath5418
@antonyxavierpawath5418 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you bishop Barron..So much of wisdom..this video has open my heart and mind.
@emojummper1
@emojummper1 11 жыл бұрын
I greatly appreciated this synthesis Father. It certainly resonates with my seventeen years experience of marriage. Greetings to all from New Zealand and the peace of Christ on us all.
@BishopBarron
@BishopBarron 13 жыл бұрын
@spryrambro It's both/and, not either/or. God shapes our wills by luring them. He doesn't "control" us; he beguiles us into doing what will make us happiest.
@lesleysullivan6458
@lesleysullivan6458 5 жыл бұрын
Bishop Barron, I have a request. Publish this talk as a book to be given to young people when they are in high school. What you described is very excellent advice that young people need to know before going to college. Thank you and God bless.
@tiehomothibe9809
@tiehomothibe9809 10 жыл бұрын
Exactly what you are saying in this vedio is what I told a young couple just a week ago, I refered them to Jesus words, Met10:37, God's will between the two has to come first before our own wills, in saying we have to love Him more than the other partner He is not taking anything away, but in loving Him more He teaches us how to better love our partners more than we did the first time.
@danielpoot5705
@danielpoot5705 Жыл бұрын
So true! When my ex and I were praying together, were loving God together, I felt like we were so strong and our relationship could endure. But when I fell away, that's when everything crumbled.
@answerslowly
@answerslowly 12 жыл бұрын
thank you so much father barron .my wife and I are recently married .1 year ago we came into the catholic faith together and now we want to start a ministry for married couples in this is indeed the framework with which we want to work .GOD bless you
@melissasoto1441
@melissasoto1441 Жыл бұрын
Join into the Marriage Encounter Geoup at your Parrish It is good to attend the classes first with the more experienced Catholic marriage couples and priests as the mentors. After attending, ask about full participation in the set up classes to be a part of the mentors
@BellaDevout
@BellaDevout 5 ай бұрын
Getting married in the Catholic Church in 10 days - thank you for this, Bishop Barron! That book by Fulton Sheen is on my to-read list.
@saintnick542
@saintnick542 11 жыл бұрын
Wow! I just found someone to love…………YOU, Fr. Barron! This video is truly one of your best! Thank you for all of these videos and please don't stop making them! They have deepened my faith and fanned the flame of my Love for Christ! God BlessYou!
@karinarullo
@karinarullo 8 жыл бұрын
This is great! and thanks God it has subtitles in Spanish!! It will be very useful in our prayer groups. Thanks a million
@lukeweidner1246
@lukeweidner1246 2 жыл бұрын
Bishop, thank you for all your great videos & insight! You’re a big inspiration for my beginning RCIA this fall ✝️
@shannonwatkins32
@shannonwatkins32 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, Bishop Barron! I'm so grateful.
@mariannelanuti6956
@mariannelanuti6956 11 жыл бұрын
It is a covenant and not a contract. It's a higher standard. It is a commitment to love another more than one's self. Losing the ego will provide the ultimate freedom.
@lauriecook-scotti3806
@lauriecook-scotti3806 9 жыл бұрын
Fr., I wish you would speak at my Church in Bergen. NY. Fr. Ken spoke of you in the Easter Homily. (St. Bridget's)
@ryecabs
@ryecabs Жыл бұрын
A perfect formula to youngsters who want to get married not only for Roman Catholics but to all Religions.❤❤❤
@charlesmuvunga5633
@charlesmuvunga5633 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Bishop for this educative video. In my ministry as Priest, I am interested in questions of marriage since I have realized that successful married life is necessary for the good of human society.
@4theprize
@4theprize 13 жыл бұрын
Absolutely excellent ( as always) Father. You put this together so clearly. Keep up your wonderful ministry. God bless
@mcgreenee
@mcgreenee 11 жыл бұрын
So wonderful to hear this in a nutshell, even though we've read Fulton Sheen's book many years ago, it rings true again when our children are at a marriageable age. this is easy to share!
@glowgurl1
@glowgurl1 11 жыл бұрын
Beautiful! I agree wholeheartedly. God Bless you!
@Yolduranduran
@Yolduranduran 3 жыл бұрын
After dating and getting nowhere I finally asked God to help me find a good Christian man. I met my husband and didn't think he was the one but once I could see that he too was a believer I really fell for him. We are happily married and continue to believe in God.
@jhljhl6964
@jhljhl6964 5 жыл бұрын
Putting God first.
@smile-tweetybird1151
@smile-tweetybird1151 7 жыл бұрын
THE PERFECT REASONS!!!!!!!!!! THANK YOU FATHER BARRON!!!!!!!!!!GOD's blessing to you!
@JL0319
@JL0319 11 жыл бұрын
Excellent - so true. Well done Fr Barron!
@Lavender-Waterfall
@Lavender-Waterfall Жыл бұрын
This was SO good. Thank you, Bishop Barron!
@ramirreyes6414
@ramirreyes6414 6 жыл бұрын
A wonderful advice on marriage Father. This video would have been a great addition to our topic today which was about family and relationships. The transcendent third and God's role on that between the couples, that's kinda a new thing for me. Something worth remembering.
@rop2530
@rop2530 9 жыл бұрын
Bishop Barron this is among your BEST KZbin commentary video. All young couples should view and study this teaching before thinking of marriage. When I think of any couple that has had a long successful marriage, they tend to fit this "transcendent third" formula. Yet doesn't this concept go back even further than Aristotle - all the way back to the Book of Genesis when God created man and woman? When God said "...it is not good for man to be alone" and created woman from man's rib, wasn't God actually the implied "third" entity right then, too? I think so.
@michaelquirk3442
@michaelquirk3442 7 жыл бұрын
Ro P oo0
@edwardflores8442
@edwardflores8442 6 жыл бұрын
Amen
@smytb
@smytb 6 жыл бұрын
YES!!!
@BishopBarron
@BishopBarron 13 жыл бұрын
@12aug96 It's in the section on friendship from the Nichomachean Ethics.
@MichElle-sd6gj
@MichElle-sd6gj 8 жыл бұрын
W O W! Words of Wisdom!
@berniesanders1199
@berniesanders1199 7 жыл бұрын
Mich Elle thank u
@AnaCaona0
@AnaCaona0 5 жыл бұрын
I love you, bishop Barron... May God bless you
@BishopBarron
@BishopBarron 11 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry friend, but that is simply an asinine remark. You'd have a point if I were giving advice on sexual technique. But an unmarried person has absolutely nothing to say about the morality and spirituality of marriage?!
@jeanluisindriagolugo232
@jeanluisindriagolugo232 4 жыл бұрын
There are several tips for saving your marriage Try to communicate more Help each other out more Start to give and take more (I discovered these and the reasons they work on Mirykal marriage plan website )
@patricianeese8924
@patricianeese8924 4 жыл бұрын
Not, he has a lot to teach us through his knowledge of God. I am married and I understand that God is the key to a solid Christian marriage. In truth God is all we need to have purposeful relationships with those He put in our paths.
@sunilpereira4683
@sunilpereira4683 4 жыл бұрын
@@jeanluisindriagolugo232 you may get 'several tips' anywhere in the internet. but u don't get a spiritual tip like this anywhere so easily
@christinadwyer9641
@christinadwyer9641 5 ай бұрын
I going take next few days focus back on prayer sessions yes my old and my mother who’s 82?caught covert ❤
@christinadwyer9641
@christinadwyer9641 5 ай бұрын
Son ❤😂
@alanbourbeau24
@alanbourbeau24 10 жыл бұрын
I think God should be involved in every marriage. Remember when Jesus went to a wedding at Cana with his mother, his apostles and his mother Mary said, "They have no more wine." And Jesus said to her, "Why does this concern you. My hour has not yet come." And eventually he did. He had 6 water jars filled up and he turned the water into wine. He saved the wedding ceremony. His mother Mary also said, "Do whatever he tells you." As for me, I have a girlfriend that I seriously love and she is determined to marry me. And if I do this right, I have to find her ring size and make sure it's not sterling silver because she's allergic. And plus I have tell my mom about and her parents too. So if anyone sees this comment, please only positive feed back.
@splotsplot
@splotsplot 10 жыл бұрын
I love only one. Three is one too many.
@eileenbrogan1085
@eileenbrogan1085 2 ай бұрын
I hope everything worked out for you
@sicaarib5782
@sicaarib5782 2 жыл бұрын
This has been and always will be true. A life of the sacraments is a calling to a higher purpose of love.
@ambrosiatea
@ambrosiatea 13 жыл бұрын
Thanks Father, this has really made me think about my own situation. I'm being wooed by a man who's not religious, just reminds me I really need to pray about it, and maybe reconsider...
@hiswife2002
@hiswife2002 13 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, Father! And it resonates very deeply with me. We attended a pre-Cana program that had Three to Get Married as it's theme and it was incredibly beneficial, accurate and life-changing.
@trevortrevortsr2
@trevortrevortsr2 11 жыл бұрын
We looked at this post to try and understand why some Catholics seem to view marriage that's different from our view and most of friends - it is clear you see marriage as inclusive commitment which includes an entity (God) why we see it very much as an exclusive spiritual commitment to each other - thanks for helping us understand your perspective
@maureenparker6185
@maureenparker6185 2 жыл бұрын
I believe that God puts people in our lives for all kinds of reasons. For me, I have prayed through the Blessed Mother to intercede for me to find someone I can love and be loved by. In hopes that same person loves God and the Catholic Church as much as I do. As, I mentioned before, God does put people in your lives for other reasons as well. Sometimes...it's just a homeless person who has not eaten all day and your kindness is feeds that person which brings that person hope and the thought thar God does love them. God works wonders..even as small as showing love and kindness to someone you do not even know..
@isaihisaih2024
@isaihisaih2024 4 жыл бұрын
thats the best advice i have ever heard! 😊👍you wont learn it in most love movies..love drama tv..
@TheLaw055
@TheLaw055 13 жыл бұрын
Thank you for explaining "reason/s" for a Catholic marriage. wonderful video.
@donatio1
@donatio1 3 жыл бұрын
This is just absolutely beautiful
@ludmillagrabetz8085
@ludmillagrabetz8085 4 жыл бұрын
Bishop Barron this is GOOD NEWS! Thank you sooo much, now I can continue to pray for my future husband for him to fall in love with God, Mama Mary so we both can relate and understand in God and each other! Awesome!♥️😊✨✨
@Cellalu
@Cellalu 11 жыл бұрын
Bravo! on the Spanish subtitles. More people will have a chance to hear/see your commentaries.
@gerardoeng
@gerardoeng 12 жыл бұрын
Thank you father! as always it has been an enlightened powerful message
@ARShadduck
@ARShadduck 13 жыл бұрын
continued- it has multiple manifestations. Those called to marriage find that answering this vocational call empowers them to do God's work more joyfully and abundantly. As Father Barron has reminded us continually, love is not an emotion or passion, but a response of the will, willing the good of the other as other. Homosexuals, as well as Heterosexuals, are call equally to the vocation of Married life, a life that glorifies God in togetherness.
@susanaltar
@susanaltar 7 жыл бұрын
thank you sweet Jesus for giving me slastor - loving truth together brought us together - and the sacrament of marriage -
@luisapollino2687
@luisapollino2687 2 жыл бұрын
Good sermon ❤❤❤
@upinsmoke2897
@upinsmoke2897 11 жыл бұрын
You're right. They should. The translation even uses smoother words to describe this give and take relationship which sounds slightly abrupt in the english translation.The quote in the bible you originally mentioned is emphasizing that 1 member of a heterosexual relationship should never use dishonest means to withhold from his or her spouse. This is one of the few quotes from the bible I agree with.
@isaihisaih2024
@isaihisaih2024 4 жыл бұрын
a like it, very true!!! thats why most people have failed marriage and relationship they always centered on emotions....👍😊
@Naturalhit
@Naturalhit 12 жыл бұрын
You are such an awesome speaker Father. Thank you.
@tylerj26
@tylerj26 12 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the great advice, Father! I hope to practice this in my future relationship
@barrymellish4435
@barrymellish4435 11 жыл бұрын
A great reflection, very thought provoking.
@TJ1920
@TJ1920 13 жыл бұрын
I admit that I am single Practicing Catholic not in a relationship but have lots of friends and I am perfectly happy.. I think Fr. Barren is correct in saying Love alone will not hold a Marriage together I have seen to many try and fail because Love alone is not enough. common sense
@MsRio93
@MsRio93 12 жыл бұрын
Man, that is the best explanation ever thank you soo much!!
@nikhilpawath
@nikhilpawath 4 жыл бұрын
I belong to the syro malankara rite of the church..our liturgy explains the love relation between the church and god in the sacrament of marriage.
@FaithandReason101
@FaithandReason101 11 жыл бұрын
you just agreed with fr. when you said "friends have shared interests." In christian marriage, this shared interest isnt a something, it is a someone(God).
@missy567ful
@missy567ful 3 жыл бұрын
I want to get married, but religious counseling is needed for both of us. We are both Catholic, but we see the church from two entirely different perspectives. All I can do is pray to our Lord that our beliefs come together for the greater good.
@Phummuph
@Phummuph 12 жыл бұрын
Fr. Bob...like a Boss
@BishopBarron
@BishopBarron 13 жыл бұрын
Respond to this video... But all of this is much ado about nothing! If I'm making a valid point about marriage (and you agree that I am), then why does anyone care whether it's a celibate man who's making it?
@beaulashoba2013
@beaulashoba2013 7 жыл бұрын
Catholic Church gives more important to the marriage and relationship one of my Friend who was having relationships with a Protestant guy who proposed her..and their relationship continued he used talk to her about God and promises she thought dat he is very spiritual and kind later on after he got a better proposal from a rich girl he married to a Protestant girl...sad thing he told my Friend dat she is not faithful coz of dat she cannot please got and she couldn’t get married to him.. Is there anything like dis Bishop Barron can God promise and can’t do it???
@Marcloud
@Marcloud 12 жыл бұрын
I am not devout Catholic, I just watched the video again, and re read my comment from 5 months ago, basically what i get from this is: "IF the ideology, WHATEVER that may be, is STRONG enough, AND the SAME, THEN it will last." As he basically summarizes at the end of video starting at 5:24. He bills it as it has to be centered around God, 'the third' has to be that, & I am saying that it is the principle, that can help make it easier, it does not specifically HAVE to be God.
@thedarktower79
@thedarktower79 11 жыл бұрын
@Trev S God provides us with all good things as He shepherds us through this fallen, broken, lost world. Sometimes He puts us through the fire to refine us. This world is the obstacle course we must all negotiate, walking by faith and not by sight. We don't curse God because of how much this world is suffering. We accept this suffering world for what it is because our final destination is so much brighter than this current darkness.
@braddyboy82
@braddyboy82 13 жыл бұрын
I like this!! The first 1:20 is fabulous. Never thought about love or enduring meaningful relationships that way before. Love this video! But what about two agnostics, who have a relationship based on a common vision and a goal that goes beyond the two people, also? I am intrigued, Fr. Barron!
@dynamic9016
@dynamic9016 Жыл бұрын
Very insightful.
@DonusAmbrose
@DonusAmbrose 13 жыл бұрын
I think the idea of the "Transcendent Third" is the key to understanding the love of the Trinity as a perfect divine love, as opposed to a binitarian understanding of God.
@jfklimek
@jfklimek 12 жыл бұрын
Thank you somuch Father Barron. Your video's seem to touch upon all the topics in which I engage daily with many other social circles I'm involved in. On this topic particularly I'm wondering if you might give me a little better insight with my situation. I found your comment at the end stating to, 'find someone that is as in love with (God's) purpose as you are,' to be the BEST find indeed. I'm wondering if someone found that isn't in love with that purpose or moreso repelled by the...
@trishknaut1031
@trishknaut1031 6 жыл бұрын
Return to our 1st Love and ask God who He wants you to be one with anorher to share His fulness of love wirh to draw others into His family, the church!
@deaddddd
@deaddddd 12 жыл бұрын
The Aristotle reference doesn't work. He was talking about a third that comes into existence from the friendship.
@arianamansouri9275
@arianamansouri9275 2 жыл бұрын
This is great, thank you
@Artty-fl8ul
@Artty-fl8ul 8 жыл бұрын
Love this!
@askateboarder911
@askateboarder911 12 жыл бұрын
You are absolutely wonderful. Thank you so very much:)
@roxiequin7779
@roxiequin7779 8 жыл бұрын
Wow, awesome!
@angelakeen5330
@angelakeen5330 5 жыл бұрын
Well done Bishop 🙏🙏
@squamish4244
@squamish4244 12 жыл бұрын
Personal experience isn't everything, but it helps. A lot.
@CarcharodonMeg
@CarcharodonMeg 13 жыл бұрын
Every Catholic parent should have their son/daughter watch this.
@BadSneakers
@BadSneakers 13 жыл бұрын
I want this, Father Barron
@MaloEdu
@MaloEdu 11 жыл бұрын
The way I see, the Third is the eye witness, high priest, chancellors, guardian, peace maker, provider, life support of the relationship.
@NMikeM
@NMikeM 13 жыл бұрын
Fr Barron, I like the idea here, and I have seen a few couples blessed with this kind of relationship and it's awesome. Does it narrow things too much to make that a prerequisite for marriage, though? It seems to me like few people feel so drawn to "love God together" without years of time together. Might two people recognize that they love each other, and are suitable for one another and get married in order to embark on the journey to come to God together when they're not there yet?
@kklonowski
@kklonowski 13 жыл бұрын
@12aug96 Check Nichomachean Ethics, 1156b, starting about 7 lines in. Also 1157b, about 30 lines in. The virtuous friendships which he describes are the only ones that include this transcendent third, or "the good without qualification."
@06454399
@06454399 13 жыл бұрын
Fabulous, It's so true.
@weebettyb
@weebettyb 11 жыл бұрын
I do love his talks they are very profound. I commented above as I though maybe my question wasn't specific enough. I know it is bad for men to dominate women etc. but what does submission mean when we compare it to service? (see my comment above if thatdoesn't make sense)
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