Bishop Barron on Nature and Grace

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[@dylanwilliams4872]

Dear God please help me to let go.

[@agapelove9816]

Christ's love is above all things!!! Thank you so much Bishop Barron.

[@dynamic9016]

Thanks much for this video.

[@nickj5451]

Thank you Fr. Barron!

[@13Gryph]

Great insights as always, Your Excellency. Thank you.

[@scourgicus9543]

Thank you for this; I've been trying to speak to this subject for some time and you've found exactly the words I needed. Blessings!

[@MrJijack]

That jingle at the beginning is always great

[@praxidescenteno3233]

Yes is God working on us ! Loving us, loving us loving us more and more and more his works the good ones not ours 😇😇😇

[@VassaLarin]

You keep getting better and better, Your Excellency! Thanks for surrendering to that. :) So very helpful to us addicts out here.

[@QuisutDeusmpc]

+Coffee with Sr. Vassa So true. We have an over-weening addiction to sin. ( e. g. Romans 7)

[@SunshineSurfsup1]

Your message is awesome, Bishop! Please keep them coming.

[@wellnessgirl2806]

I find these presentations extremely helpful and enjoy the illustrations from classic art; thank you so much!

[@bcfriardoyle7697]

Now I get it! ✝️

[@elenafeick9459]

Bishop Barron, this video leaves me longing for that grace to let Jesus live His life in me. Thank you for the work you are doing. I tend to go astray from my faith very easily and am trying now to limit my exposure to media that pulls me away from the Church. You could say that your videos are filling something of a void for me at the moment. I will pray for you and for the work you do.

[@elenafeick9459]

Obviously I disagree with you. I love my faith, I converted to my faith. It is easy to go astray because my faith demands challenging sacrifice from me (I have SSA) but I have come to see, through experience, that I would rather be without a partner than be without the Eucharist and my relationship with God's Church. And I have no need to wander further than that.

[@elenafeick9459]

but I have fallen in love, with Christ in the Eucharist and with His Church! there is romance aplenty in allowing Him to live His life in you, of learning to love as He does. and you are right that there is nothing wrong with being attracted to the same gender - but I disagree that it would follow that it is ok or necessary to allow my actions to be directed by my attractions. instead, I choose, for myself, to seek the grace of allowing Christ to live His life in me - I desire to become one of His saints, whatever that may look like.

[@elenafeick9459]

or maybe God has allowed my SSA so that I can see it as a sign directing me towards celibate chastity and the gift of being able to love everyone in a way that will be free from attachment. or maybe so that He can enact a miraculous healing in my life one day and lead me to a husband and family. either way I choose to be obedient to Church teaching in this matter, because in the times I haven't been obedient it has only left me unsettled and restless. the heart is restless until it rests in God :)

[@jenw2195]

+Elena Feick Elena Thank you for sharing your story. Please do not listen to the advice you were given by this other user. I don’t have SSA,but some of my friends do. I’ve seen many fall away from the Church, and they never get over the loss. It’s heartbreaking. I applaud you for staying true to the Church’s teaching through the obvious difficulty. The level of maturity and coherence you’ve shown is so refreshing and bolsters the resolve of all of us in the Church when we see daily moral heroics like yours. It seems evident that, through your testimony of faithfulness and virtue, Jesus is already living His life in you! Keep going! Don’t despair! Trust God!

[@josephgraitizitto8127]

+Jen W And Elena. I listen to all sources of information, weigh them out and take away what I know to be true and leave the rest. I told Elena to let herself love. That was my message simple love between 2 earthy souls. Now, how many of us have had relationships as a young adults that had left us felling empty and lost? How many of us adults have as well for that matter? This is normal and a part of life. Your not feeling empty and lost because your not following the teachings of some man made origination. Your feeling lost and empty because your not loving another person after you had been. Don't stop loving. If you find a man and a family that's wonderful. If you find out that you desire a woman well that's truly wonderful too. Everything God has created is perfect and is in imitation of his Glory. Even our wants and desires. especially our physical desires. Lets look at what the last user Jen W did. She obviously read the comment you made, how you would love to be a saint of God, to be a testimony to his works here on Earth. Jen W took what you said and "fed" it back to you. Her goal was to give you strength in your convictions. But do you truly own those convictions?? Are they yours do they come from your heart?? To me it looks like that user told you not to love. To me Jen told you continue to up stain from relationships. To suffer. She was slick about it too, very slick. She made it sound Soooo good. Oh your so mature!! Your an example to your elders. Do you see this?? It's all Bullshit. If someone ever told me that loving was wrong I would know them to be loveless themselves. And I would suspect a hidden agenda. Jen you come in Christ's name and you preach anti love?? Everyone, Never loose an opportunity to love. And when I say love I mean the love of another human soul a living person that can return your love in a very physical and spiritual way. Thank you for reading...

[@tallmikbcroft6937]

Amen. Thank you שלו

[@davidwhiteboy2053]

Really wonderful and insightful. Thank you so much for doing this, Bishop! Your videos help me out a lot!

[@dennisjacob1081]

God is my friend he will make my life success

[@jdotoz]

I had always thought the passage about the winnowing fork had more to do with the division between the saved and the damned, so I found the idea of it referring to an internal sifting quite interesting. I suppose it's like what St. Therese was talking about when she spoke of our sins as drops of water cast into the great furnace of God's mercy.

[@davidcase1286]

what a great point.

[@odo324]

Something I lack in understanding is 'what', or perhaps 'how' it is to "let" God work within me. Most answers give a neat laundry list of act to be done or to avoid ... and that's always frustrated me like being lost in the woods and coming across a path I've already been on. This video is perhaps the best answer to that I've ever heard (in memory) and I'll need to check this out again later.

[@4455matthew]

amazing, beautiful.

[@ClaudC]

Your video reminded me of this quote: “Aslan is a lion- the Lion, the great Lion." "Ooh" said Susan. "I'd thought he was a man. Is he-quite safe? I shall feel rather nervous about meeting a lion"..."Safe?" said Mr Beaver ..."Who said anything about safe? 'Course he isn't safe. But he's good. He's the King, I tell you.” ― C.S. Lewis, The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe

[@nickengineroom]

Thankyou Father 🙏

[@et-uo7mp]

Very powerful.

[@SevenDeMagnus]

Thanks bishop.

[@sandragzmn]

Beautiful explanation!!!

[@theophilusambago9552]

The thorny issue for me is reconciling the relationship between God as Prime Mover, and our acceptance of grace. If God is the prior cause to accepting grace - then ultimate decision to surrender to God, to put Jesus in charge is seated in God's distribution of grace first - not our agency. If this first grace to surrender *itself* required a surrender - then we would have an infinite regression of needing grace to accept grace. So there must be a first simply efficacious giving of grace - upon which all other acceptance and surrendering depends.

[@zainlawrence417]

father robert barron is very good; i don't critique what you say at all, i listen intently, i carry that sentence you say " do the good of the other as other" all the time

[@iamalittlemore.6917]

🙇🙇🙇🙇🙇🙇🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@l2084]

When is your commentary on "Hail Cesar", the new Coen brothers film, coming? I was thinking about what your take on it could be the whole I was watching it!!!

[@wjm5972]

Bishop Barron , I have a question, Do Seminarians in training still study the languages of the Bible Hebrew & Ancient Greek or just Latin. Thank you

[@parkerbazan5775]

YURRRR

[@BrandonDanz]

Great meditation. Thanks. Watch the opening scene of Terrence Malick's The Tree of Life (it's on KZbin)

[@praxidescentenoortiz9664]

😇😇😇

[@dibble2005]

Bishop Barron thanks for the talk. I have to write a thesis on Grace. What I want to do is prioritise that those who are separated from religion for one reason or another are not abandoned by god and they can still have grace from God albeit not sacramental Grace. I am writing this because I know many good people who do not go to Mass or the sacraments yet they are still good people. I want to ask you in the process of research can you suggest what main points I have to focus on. This is why I tuned into your video today. Thank you.

[@troyarchers]

Fr. Barron - I'm no etymology expert, but I once heard a great homily about how "baptize" has its roots in the word that means "to pickle." The priest's point was that we are "changed in order to be preserved." Does it really only mean to dunk?

[@javiersalazar2178]

🙏✝️🇺🇸

[@juanguio5932]

2:25 “[Jefferson]: I’ll give him (Hamilton) this: his financial system is a work of genius. I couldn’t undo it if I tried, and I’ve tried” Lin Manuel Miranda

[@juanguio5932]

Also, awesome video! We need to let God work and as you say “cooperate with His grace” Inspiring

[@QuisutDeusmpc]

I love the imagery of 'baptizo'. The fibers of a cloth of textile dipped into a vat of purple would be infused with that color. St. Paul says we are baptized into Christ's death [cf. Romans 6: 3-4; Galatians 3: 27; Colossians 2: 12; I Peter 3: 21; the blood and water which poured forth from the wound in the side of the crucified Christ; cf. John 19: 34], and so our bodies and souls, like the fibers of a cloth, are mystically infused with the body, and blood of Jesus Christ &indwelt by the Holy Spirit (cf. Titus 3: 5b-7).

[@jeffryc.larson3952]

There can be powerful barriers to receiving this grace. If I understand correctly it means giving up a large degree of control of one's life. This is a frightening prospect of itself but most especially in our culture which so values individual achievement. Is there a specific prayer or practice that can help us stay in this grace?

[@QuisutDeusmpc]

+Jeffry C. Larson i.) Inherited from the Merkabah Kabbalist tradition in Judaism, the Church does not posit "a" prayer (i. e. e. g. any particular vocal prayer; there is no 'magic' bullet), but the practice / discipline of "prayer" (lectio, meditatio, oratio, contemplatio) in general (cf. e. g. section IV of the Catechism of the Catholic Church; Guigo II's "The Ladder of Monks"; St. Teresa of Jesus's "The Way of Perfection"). And at the same time it does posit "a" prayer - 'the Lord's Prayer' (cf. section IV of the Catechism of the Catholic Church) as a model for all prayer. "We must dig deeply in Christ. He is like a rich mine with many pockets containing treasures: however deep we dig we will never find their end or their limit. Indeed, in every pocket new seams of fresh riches are discovered on all sides." ---St. John of the Cross ii.) Traditionally, the Church has also recommended the three "ways" or "states" of the spiritual life: purgation, illumination, divine union. First mentioned by Pseudo-Dionysius, they were recommended by St. Thomas Aquinas and St. John of the Cross. A good modern treatment (early 20th century) is TAN books's 'The Spiritual Life: A Treatise on Ascetically and Mystical Theology'.

[@jeffryc.larson3952]

+QuisutDeus. mpc I've started reading Pseudo-Dionyisus and it is challenging me with its density. But I'll keep at it. I'm interested in learning more about the Merkabah tradition as well.

[@MrBrunoUSA]

+Jeffry C. Larson I have found that the writings collected in the Philokalia to be very helpful and challenging. But as QuisutDeus.mpc says, there is no magic bullet!

[@QuisutDeusmpc]

Jeffry C. Larson The 'Merkabah' tradition in Kabbalist Judaism passed into the catholic Church as 'lectio divina' (cf. Guigo II's "The Ladder of Monks"), 'lectio': reading (the Sacred Scriptures; for example the 'Daily Readings' for each Sunday or each Mass found either on-line at the USCCB website or in a Daily Missal); 'meditatio': meditation (reflecting on the original audience, the circumstances addressed, how it relates to salvation history / the Old Testament, what it tells us about the person of Jesus Christ, etc) 'oratio': prayer (after reflecting on the passage, 'pray' it as a personal prayer, insert yourself into the text as if you were there, what is Jesus Christ / the Holy Spirit saying to YOU / your soul as you pray the passage 'contemplatio': contemplation; literally, 'with the template' / with God's plan (beyond praying the aspect of the passage that is speaking to you, and this may sound weird, you become that passage, you see how 'being' it, would affect your life and you resolve to live it in the various aspects of your life: relationships, organization, time management, finances, as an answer to the sins you're struggling with, etc) 'actio': action. You resolve to change such and such in your life to bring it more in line with the passage with identifiable / measurable goals (e. g. reduce how often you get angry at your friends; how to pre-empt situations that put you in temptation; alternative thoughts or behavior you will put into action when you begin to feel a situation is compromising your state of grace, etc). If you are simply interested in learning ABOUT (the information surrounding a subject which provides context for incorporating it into one's life), then you could study Judaism's 'Merkabah' Kabbalist tradition. But, frankly, once those four 'ways' (reading, meditation, prayer, contemplation) passed into the Church's spiritual tradition, they take on a distinctly Christ-ian discontinuous turn. Christian 'lectio divina' and the senses of sacred Scripture (CCC nos. 115-119) is both continuous with and discontinuous with (because of Judaism's denial that Jesus Christ is the long awaited 'Messiah' of Israel and the second divine Person of the Holy Trinity) its historical precursor. "Diligently practice prayer and 'lectio divina'. When you pray, you speak to God, when you read [the sacred Scriptures / the early Church fathers], God speaks to you." St. Cyprian The sections on the Catechism of the Catholic Church on the literal / literary sense (the historical-grammatical background and structure of a passage / pericope) and the 'spiritual' sense: the allegorical (what a passage tells us about Jesus Christ and the Church), tropological (the moral aspects of a passage; what it tells us about how to live Christian lives in the world), and the analogical (what a pericope tells us about our eschatological destiny / what the Beatific vision / heaven will be like / the goal towards which we are headed for all eternity) aspects of the spiritual sense. A good place to start, instead of 'Merkabah' Kabbalist Judaism would be: i.) "Life and Holiness" by Thomas Merton / Father Louis, OCSO ii.) "The Art of Purifying the Heart" by Cardinal Tomas Spidlik iii.) Catechism of the Catholic Church on the "Senses of Scripture: paragraph nos. 101-119; particularly paragraphs 115-119 iv.) "Making Senses Out of Scripture: Reading the Bible as the First Christians Did" by Mark P. Shea v.) "A Father Who Keeps His Promises" by Scott Hahn vi.) "Praying Scripture for a Change: An Introduction to 'Lectio Divina'" by Tim Gray vii.) "The Fathers of the Church" by Mike Aquilina viii.) "The Fathers Know Best: Your Essential Guide to the Teachings of the Early Church" by Jimmy Akin ix.) "Drinking From the Hidden Fountain: A Patristic Breviary - Ancient Wisdom for Today's World" by Cardinal Tomas Spidlik

[@jeffryc.larson3952]

+QuisutDeus. mpc I appreciate your detailed reply! I will endeavor to investigate the sources you cite.

[@heartywhistler]

At 9:03, he says, “follow these steps, no no,“ and then gives us several steps to follow. How can we follow the commands of Jesus if we have not been given the grace to do so, if we have not yet been dipped in the Holy Spirit, if we have not yet experienced the winnowing fan?

[@vizuboygaming]

Barron explains in other videos that you can "participate" in the grace of Christ even if you don't "know" him (a la the 'truth' hasn't been revealed to you). Using Augustine's metaphor of we are all on a path of conversion, each one of us is on a different path, at a different place on that path, and have different truths revealed to us. An example from Lumen Gentium is a Muslim who worships the God of Abraham. In my opinion, at the end of the day, it is God who is the ultimate judge and decides who enters into his grace and heavenly Kingdom whether you "know" him or not.

[@lynwattam]

Great stuff as always! One question: why did the bishop refer to the Holy Spirit as 'it'? I'm a non-Catholic Christian and so maybe that is who the Catholic church understands the Holy Spirit? But I've always understood the Holy Spirit as a 'he,' as a person. What do other people think?

[@bk15911]

From my understanding of the Trinity, it doesn't seem inappropriate to refer to the Holy Spirit as "it." The Holy Spirit is not a him/her, it's a spirit/ghost(while still being God). God in unity of the Trinity by definition isn't a him/her. The only time it makes sense to use the pronouns of "him" would be in reference to the Son and the Father, who are indeed separate beings from the Holy Spirit(while still being God). We recognize them as male figures. Hope that helps!

[@crosmanchallenger1]

Could you do a video in response to Donald Trump's comments on Pope Francis's speech on the US Mexico Border?

[@crosmanchallenger1]

Protestants who were mainly supportive of Pope Francis are now against him in the United States and the Catholic community here is now divided with this issue.

[@lightkirsche]

Bishop Baron, I seek the state of grace. How do I achieve the state of grace(become conscious)?

[@oambitiousone7100]

The sacraments, particularly baptism & confession.

[@chrisa7672]

Why do we have intersessions every mass if we are supposed to surrender ourselves completely to God and allow him to be in control? I am working on surrendering myself to God and am even enjoying the pain of it and the fasting I do because I feel it getting me closer to him, but asking the saints to intercede for you and to have intercessary prayer during mass seems to be in contradiction to allowing Christ to take over.

[@AranKathleen1]

How does this commentary on grace speak to the people who lived before Christ? How, or did they, did they receive grace?

[@jurisprudens]

+Kathleen Brooks Some of them waited for the coming of messiah, either aware or unaware of this.

[@bonaventura1519]

a better way to have titled this and the actual distinction to which he is referring is "natural grace" versus "supernatural grace," otherwise one would have to say that the created order is not given by God.

[@whoami8434]

Who does the surrendering? Me or Christ?

[@joebloise3126]

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[@Sonicwarp68]

someone should really fix that mic

[@CaryChilton]

Microphone issues ....

[@EmmMacken]

I'm just saying hello, whether you're familiar with me or not you are welcome to contact me. Kind regards.

[@villiestephanov984]

If Surah 6:58 written in Arameac " y men" without a space, Romans 14:11 would be read as exercise , left & right :)... unless 12:12 Hebrews have not looked at Surah 7:157 and excuse themselves by default of John's 19:34-37 (( koeto e golqm maitap for 6:13 Micah ; 2 Peter 1:13-15 )) Prosto neypusyemo...

[@joebloise3126]

search; the gnosis of karol wojtyla.

[@magister343]

Jefferson hated Hamilton, with good reason.

[@juanguio5932]

heheh yeah... but eventually in the end he realized his greatness “I’ll give him this: his financial system is a work of genius. I couldn’t undo it if I tried, And I tried”

[@75MalcolmX]

Self help, posative thinking, nlp and many other tricks seep into christianity as well intending leaders seek results. Over and over again the Bible talks about patients and following God.

[@frederickanderson1860]

Original sin dogma is the problem your church has to admit is against the Mary dogma. Free will is another problem regards original sin taught by your church father the August Augustine of hippo.

[@michaelcarper2185]

God is too hard on us though. He needs to take care of us better.