Bisqwit analyses TempleOS & its sole author, Terry A. Davis

[@Bisqwit]

Some assorted points: ------- This video was a response to many people’s comments that went like this: “Hey Bisqwit, what do you think about TempleOS?” or “Hey Bisqwit, what do you think about Terry Davis, the author of TempleOS?” Many people think this video is about TempleOS. That is a misconception. This video is about Bisqwit’s thoughts about TempleOS. As in, what I think about it _right now._ I took this subject at the exact same level of investment as if you asked “what do you think about Afghanistan.” I would not travel to Afghanistan and study local culture and circumstances there, in order to answer your question. Instead, I would pull from my existing knowledge and perhaps do some quick refreshing from Internet articles. And that’s what I did here. I _have_ been following news on TempleOS since it was still called LoseThos. Sorry, that I was not able to go through more in-depth details of the system in this video. To me, the more abstract ideas like freedom to program is more important. I don’t know anything about the programming language in this system, but it looks like C for the most part, except that it can be executed linewise on a commandline. Whether it has some fascinating language features I don’t know; but they have never been touted in any material I have seen, so I don’t think it is particularly interesting compared to C. ------- Timewise, I spent four minutes providing an objective overview to people who don’t know what this is about, and three minutes explaining how I view it. About half of the overview was about the operating system and another half was about its author. Because the operating system is pretty much a culmination of (the more orderly parts of) Terry’s mind, i.e. it is not a result of community efforts, analysis of TempleOS was also analysis of Terry and analysis of Terry was also analysis of TempleOS. ------- At 5:28 I said _“Anyone who entertains the idea of genuine revelation in his case, is either ignorant, or maliciously predisposed against supernatural beliefs.”_ It was _not_ a mistake. A person who is *maliciously* predisposed against supernatural beliefs is the sort of person who thinks that all supernatural is BS and that all supernatural deserves to be ridiculed. They do not believe actual genuine revelation exists. According to them, whatever Terry had, should be considered at the exact same validity as revelations that Christians do accept as genuine. They would push Terry’s ideas to that same esteem, insisting that there should be no different treatment. Either you accept that Christian revelations are BS, or you accept that Terry’s “revelations” are as genuine as the Christian revelations. This also serves the double purpose of mocking all “authentic” revelations, by putting them on same level as figments of schizophrenia. You can substitute Christian with any religion in this comment. You can similarly also replace Terry, in this comment. I have seen atheists argue that if one is to accept Biblical scriptures as true revelations from God, they have no right to dismiss Hindu revelations or e.g. Muhammad’s revelations as similarly true revelations from God. And this is the point that I addressed at 4:53. (Note that I am not saying all atheists are malicious. I am saying that people who behave in certain manner _are_ likely to have malicious intentions.) Note that it was not a coincidence that I put that trollish anti-atheist meme picture on screen at the same time when I spoke of people who engage in smearing of believers. There was a deliberate connection between these two things. It is _not_ to be interpreted as a representation of all atheists. ------- Some people seem to have gotten the impression that I avoided TempleOS because of some spiritual reasons or such, that he received visions from maybe some other more sinister source. I am not making that claim at all. I am honestly saying that I do not want to touch TempleOS, and I explained why. I did try to frame my words as positively as possible, while still stating clearly enough how I feel and what I think. Please respect my right to that decision. As for purely religious perspective, I do think Mr. Davis was genuine about God, which is evident from the pride and importance at which he took on the task of portraying the events in the wilderness after Egypt, which is admittedly a very important part of the Bible. I am almost positive that he made it to the good side of judgment. I so much wish he could have been healed of his illness during his lifetime, but things don’t often go that way. As for the vision and covenant thing that he claimed, that was mostly his own attempt at justifying what he already wanted to do. He wanted an OS that works on x86_64 and has the lowest common denominator hardware requirements. First he used rational arguments to justify this decision, and later on, he made up a higher order. Either it happened by a conscious lie, or, more likely, his illness was mixing things up. Whether he actually believed what he said about covenant and God’s word, remains impossible to know. His frequent use of racial epithets and other such language pulls into question the degree at which he actually wanted to follow God’s Kingdom, and whether there were spiritual factors involved, but from the outside it is impossible to tell. I don’t know enough of how schizophrenia works, so I will speak nothing rather than speak false accusations. I don’t want to trample such delicate matters. ------- However, there is a second reason why I steer away. Let me make this clear: I love TempleOS for its technical and philosophical merits. However, TempleOS (unintentionally) makes a caricature out of Biblical beliefs. As a public figure of some barely nonzero influence, I do not like to lend credence to this caricature out of concern, that my support for TempleOS would tarnish the public’s perception of Biblical beliefs - taint by association, for people who are not able or not willing to tell the difference, which I fear is most of the target audience of both TempleOS and my videos. ------- Even though I have no personal interest in studying TempleOS further, I would think it would be a terrible injustice if Terry’s project and fruits of his labor were to disappear from the Internet. It is _art_ after all, and it is better that his life had purpose and consequence than that it had none. I recommend you to check it out if you can, and even perhaps tinker with it. It’s free for all purposes, so, please, go here: templeos.org/ -------

[@aldobernaltvbernal8745]

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[@Chriva]

There's a pin-function for posts they introduced a while back. I don't think this is necessary these days :)

[@Bisqwit]

I use the _pinned post_ feature whenever there is something I actually want everyone to see. I just reserve the first post for that purpose in case I want to pin something _I_ said. Sometimes I pin posts made by others.

[@SpellsOfTruth]

So why didnt you actually use TempleOS? You explain that you refuse to use it because it feels like its Terry's soul or some such? Can you elaborate on this?

[@Charsh392]

It's all good. You still make good vids and we enjoy your company.

[@cmdreltonpoole6303]

I don't agree that running TempleOS is like rummaging through someone's underwear drawer. I see it more like walking through a cathedral designed by a long-dead architect.

[@TehKorwinMikke]

I'd say it's better yet - like reading the plans of a long-dead architect.

[@Bisqwit]

To be fair, I have had similar feelings about many different things where I have had to go through a significant section of someone’s life’s work. It feels oppressive.

[@costascostas1760]

@@Bisqwit depressive?

[@Bisqwit]

Depressive, but in a walls-fall-on-you manner.

[@AutoFirePad]

Bisqwit I understand perfectly what you feel. Thank you for video and your respect towards King Terry.

[@kron520]

Careful, CIA are now monitoring this channel.

[@Tekner436]

bioluminescent cia african americans

[@MrEdrftgyuji]

You hit them with your car. That's what you do.

[@zoomstop]

If it glows in the dark, shift out of park...

[@EximiusDux]

CIA agents ARE now*

[@JillVS34]

@@MrEdrftgyuji one for the good guys

[@MrSysdump]

Terry A. Davis is a very sad story. I'm glad he could find peace. Not saying i think his suicide was a good thing but this man was suffering. There is one video where he is yelling at his parents in a dulusinal way and all the sudden he stops and says "I forgot i love you" and walks away. He would have fights with his father because of his racism (Which the internet did not help). People would call and torment this guy they would say something to get his delusions going then he would be on the phone doing 2-3 hour long rants.The worst thing about Terry Davis is you can see his decent into madness. From start to beginning before he went really off the wall to the point where he is homeless and up to a couple days before his death. Internet trolls played a big part in this guy getting into physical fights with his father not seeking the treatment he so desperately needed, catfished him into believing he was into a relationship with this girl he admired, and even fed into his delusions. Terry Davis is a sad story that shows the true evil in people when hidden behind a keyboard. If people wouldn't tell him he was right and make crank calls (That Terry in his state of mind had no idea they were trolls and took the calls as legitimate) The people who helped Terry Davis get kicked out of his home and beat him down every time he made progress in treating his schizophrenia should feel real good about pushing this man to what he ultimately did. Step in front of a train.

[@MrSysdump]

Just to add besides the delusions this guy was a genius and shows that none of us are safe from our minds failing.

[@ProfShibe]

@@MrSysdump that’s the saddest part. He was so damn smart and a random illness he had no control over ruined everything. I feel so bad for him. We’ll have neuralink and such in the future to cure these things, and hopefully far in the future schizophrenia and other illnesses are seen as a primitive issue that are long gone. So much suffering for no reason and for others entertainment as they sit and waste their lives away. Unironically he has accomplished far more than the trolls have, despite his conditions.

[@jellyfishjelly1941]

"you can embed 3D models inside source code comments" I'm sold! This at least should be a feature in KDevelop.

[@goldchris1111]

yeah thats pretty fucking cool

[@iProgramInCpp]

how the hell do they do that, do they use html or smth?

[@mbartelsm]

@@iProgramInCpp You can do anything you want if you are programming it from scratch.

[@iProgramInCpp]

@@mbartelsm I agree with that, but I don't know why you'd want 3D models inside source. That's pointless.

[@dreamingwarlord]

@@iProgramInCpp Debugging purposes

[@AletheaCanal]

0:45 "shut up bird!"

[@dorjderemnamsraijav5182]

haha

[@ploopybear]

Pretty sure he killed it. Or it slowly died of bleeding or something

[@ExpertExterminators]

😂

[@aben8763]

Hahahahaha

[@smokingiscool599]

If they glow in the dark, hit em' with your car.

[@tomservo5007]

Joggers at night wear reflective tape ... Terry ran over a jogger

[@smokingiscool599]

@@tomservo5007 It would be cool if it actually was a CIA agent, tho. like when it came out that Hemingway was actually being followed by the FBI.

[@l3p3]

@@smokingiscool599 Cool? These honorable, disciplined persons risk their lifes for law and order...

[@smokingiscool599]

@@l3p3 How is stalking a mentally ill computer programmer risking their life for law and order? It's way sadder that some jogger died than some creep CIA agent invading the life of an American citizen. Also the CIA isn't actually supposed to operate on American soil, so any glow-in-the-dark CIA agents terry did take out were rouge agents, and not honorable in the least.

[@applelover8730]

just run em over

[@Waccoon]

TempleOS is really cool in that it does things differently and has a number of unique features. It's fun to play with from a hobbyist's standpoint. I was really looking forward to this video. Alas, I'm disappointed. You spent more of this video covering the religious philosophy of the system and the metal state of the author than covering the OS itself, which is pretty much what everyone else does, too. Too many people blow off or discount unique experiments like this purely for emotional reasons. A more neutral compare/contrast of TempleOS features to contemporary OSes would be far more interesting.

[@juniorsilvabroadcast]

I think the same. Bisqwit got me disappointed. I always prefer the technical side of the world. Religion is a personal thinf

[@adammcdaniel536]

@@juniorsilvabroadcast I agree

[@Fractal80Y]

this is because he never actually touched the OS

[@vodkawhisperer3923]

Exactly i want to know if holy c is actually really good

[@cristubek2416]

Maybe it's nowhere to be found. KZbin primarily shows most popular videos, and most popular videos, by default are those which usually touches sensitive topics such as a mental state of a person. Purely technical videos tend to flop if they are not done properly - thus they're hard to find on the internet. I thought nobody would ever do any further work with TempleOS, but someone just proved me the contrary: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mqeXhZ2KqJWqd7M What you can conclude after inspecting this video page? Well, it's not popular: less than 1 thousand views. Thus it's just hard to find. Despite all that, it proves this OS got any attention from someone in a technical perspective.

[@duuqnd]

There's something very amusing about hearing Bisqwit talking in a very calm and informative voice while Terry's yelling "shut up, bird" in the background. I don't know if that was intentional or not, but I really hope it was.

[@zealousjay1993]

😂😂😂

[@lane1313]

4:28 "His programming skills were not that exceptional" Dude literally built his own operating system with its own graphics with his own programming language from his own compiler. . .

[@Bisqwit]

All of this requires a solid understanding of how a computer works - covered by an entry-level university course in computer science / computer architecture - and a willingness to experiment, and time, and passion. These are things he did have. Rarely do these come in the same package, but things like available time does _not_ imply _exceptional skills._

[@lane1313]

@@Bisqwit You may be able to tie some of these together and it is not often, as you put it. However even with a complete university course with several years of programming experience, to build an entire language ran by your own compiler to run your own OS is still above most individuals capabilities.

[@Bisqwit]

I am not too sure about that. I find both time, and passion, to be the limiting factors. That said, I deeply believe that programming is utmost an artistic endeavor, and TempleOS was Mr. Davis’s artistic vision.

[@MO-lc7vb]

@@Bisqwit I doubt you could do something like this in the amount of time that it took him to do it. He was an exceptional programmer he could do things beyond with some can even consider to do.

[@MO-lc7vb]

@@Bisqwit And Mira add your opinion it’s not a very well-versed one. Everybody view some is a very exceptional artist.

[@LangleyNA]

I have always felt those asking you about TempleOS and Terry Davis are folks who related you to Terry, Bisqwit. I feel those folks may feel your ability in programming to be like that of Terry's, or that your usage of text interfaces would be like that of Terry's. Folks may also perceive your oddities and abnormalities in personality, speech mannerisms, and whatever else to be like that of Terry's. I feel this is my perception of what those folks desired when asking you about TempleOS and Terry Davis in your streams and such, Bisqwit. I feel they are simply trying to relate you to being similar to Terry, and perhaps want you to comment on that subject matter to help them better understand you or Terry. But, as VMA has said already in the comment section of this video, it is perhaps immaturity that has some folks asking you about Terry and TOS. Perhaps they are simply "meming," as it is known. Bisqwit. You are such a sweet individual and beautiful human. I greatly appreciate you. I wish well for you. Please continue smiling, Bisqwit. :)

[@michaellk2254]

Terry is a genius. Nothing can change my mind about that.

[@RemnantCult]

It is interesting to note that TOS was originally known as LoseThos and was Terry's passion project. He wanted to make an operating system that was made exclusively for recreational programming reminiscent of the 8 bit era of computing. LoseThos lacked a lot of biblical references. I believe he turned to God right as his condition was worsening in order to cope with the terrible side effects like paranoia and mental voices. He then decided to dedicate LoseThos to God. I firmly believe he did not make the OS as a joke or insult to the Christian God but instead as a means to stay focused on something while suffering. The project and God gave me relief and faith.

[@Bisqwit]

I agree with your analysis. Thanks for writing.

[@xravenx24fe]

RIP Terry A Davis. What a man he was...

[@l3p3]

An intelligent and crazy one. But respect cannot be calculated from these factors only.

[@truethat3974]

R.I.P

[@jackiepuppet_5324]

RIP King Terry

[@wizzenberry]

Rip

[@GamesTube80]

Terry like trains

[@Insill]

According to Terry, God gave him the exact specs for TempleOS. I've always wondered if he had Scrum meetings every day with God.

[@Bisqwit]

I have personally had “Scrum meetings” with God, so I do know what that feels like. It usually leaves you speechless, with a particular idea in mind. But I do not think Terry had one with respects to this OS.

[@tehrobotjesus]

@@Bisqwit if you believe you've had contact with a god, what makes you disbelieve Terry's experience?

[@aytkyc1701]

@@tehrobotjesus probably because Bisqwit is not a Christian.

[@canal-xf5gs]

@@Bisqwit I believe Terry captured his destiny.

[@TehKorwinMikke]

@@tehrobotjesus Let's for the sake of argument, say that both Bisqwit and Terry had contact with God, and let's say that Terry still lives. Contact with God is a very personal experience. Bisqwit doesn't have a surefire way of proving to Terry, that he had contact with God. Terry doesn't have a surefire way of proving to Bisqwit, that he had contact with God. Each of them is correct in saying "I had contact with God". Each of them is correct in saying "I don't believe the other one had contact with God".

[@benjaminbrady2385]

Ha, I never thought you'd make a video on TempleOS. I'm excited to see your take. I actually used to watch Terry's streams, I miss him - he was such a talented guy and it's such a shame that mental health affected him so heavily

[@ValiantNorth]

I like how in the background he's telling his birds to shut up.

[@Levy1111]

And so the meeting of titans finally happened.

[@tyzonemusic]

4:28 Were those tank models made by Terry within the OS? I just realized the ENA animation "Temptation Stairway" uses the same model for the Shepherd's Tank

[@wizardscrollstudio]

"Genuine revelation". What is genuine? genuine=Not spurious or counterfeit; authentic: synonym: authentic. He really believed in what he said. He was genuine and by extension his revelation was genuine from his point of view. I think the issue with your statement is you apply your opinion on everyone else. The more appropriate way of saying is "I believe anyone who...."

[@Bisqwit]

When you receive an e-mail from a Nigerian Prince offering you half of a $50M that belonged to a late regent, the e-mail does not become genuine even if you completely believe it.

[@SynZ777]

@@Bisqwit Didn't you post something about you also communicating with god like Terry supposedly did (scrum meetings)? Couldn't you apply your same argument to your own experiences?

[@wizardscrollstudio]

@@Bisqwit Is not if I believe it or not. Is if the person writing it believes it. To me the main difference is the Nigerian prince is fictional written intentionally to scam you and steal your money. Terry's work on the other hand was written because the guy really believed was divine inspiration. Was it? Probably not. But he really believe it and to me makes it genuine. You out of all people should understand this better than anyone since you yourself are both a coder and deeply spiritual.

[@Bisqwit]

@@wizardscrollstudio Your comment can be summarized as “you have your truth and I have mine” or “there is no objective truth”. Unfortunately that’s not how it works. Whether things are true or not does not depend on who believes or disbelieves it.

[@wizardscrollstudio]

​@@Bisqwit Can either of us claim we know 100% what the objective reality really is? Like if you say God exist and I say no he doesn't (actually I'm more spiritual but irreligious but for the sake of argument let's just frame it that way) can either one of us prove with 100% certainty that one is right and one is wrong? Truth in a way is a mix of objective and subjective so to me is less about truth and more abouth humility and faith. If you believe then it is real. Is our belief and our inability to grasp the objective that makes our human reality real. We don't live in objective reality we live in a blend of objective and subjective or human reality. The objective will always be out of reach. Our reality is way beyond our ability to grasp it even with the most advanced scientific tools our minds are just too limited. We can never exist in objective reality but only in a human reality. So the subjective in a way is as real to us as the objective. Hope that makes sense.

[@gldev8191]

Thank you for addressing this topic bisqwit, it pains me greatly that Terry was suffering from such a terrible illness, I am sure he would have made many more outstanding contributions to humanity.

[@lukian0816]

"You can embed 3D models in the source code comments" is a sentence I never expected to hear anyone say

[@duppy404]

It's a genius idea!

[@rippspeck]

I had to watch this twice with a few hours of sleep in between. Come on, Bisqwit. You know very well why people asked _you_ to comment on the man and his OS. You're into programming, religion and you're a respectful person. Isn't it obvious that this gives your opinion a lot of quality? Anyway, I wasn't even aware Mr. Davis passed away. Let's hope he found his peace.

[@TehKorwinMikke]

Was 5:28 a misspokening? > Anyone who entertains the idea of genuine revelation in his case, is either ignorant, or maliciously predisposed against supernatural beliefs. The sentence as it stands seems strange - someone predisposed against supernatural beliefs would not entertain any form of supernatural revelation. It seems to me, that what you wanted to say is closer to: > Anyone who entertains the idea of genuine revelation in his case, is either ignorant(of how Christianity thinks about revelations), or maliciously predisposed against **Christian** beliefs.

[@Bisqwit]

It was not a mistake. A person who is *maliciously* predisposed against supernatural beliefs is the sort of person who thinks that all supernatural is BS and that all supernatural deserves to be ridiculed. They do not believe actual genuine revelation exists. According to them, whatever Terry had, should be considered at the _exact_ same validity as revelations that Christians _do_ accept as genuine. They would push Terry’s ideas to that same esteem, insisting that there should be no different treatment. Either you accept that Christian revelations are BS, or you accept that Terry’s “revelations” are as genuine as the Christian revelations. This also serves the double purpose of mocking _all_ “authentic” revelations, by putting them on same level as figments of schizophrenia. You can substitute Christian with _any_ religion in this comment. You can similarly also replace Terry, in this comment. I have _seen_ atheists argue that if one is to accept Biblical scriptures as true revelations from God, they have no right to dismiss Hindu revelations or e.g. Muhammad’s revelations as similarly true revelations from God. And this is the point that I addressed at 4:53.

[@WikiPeoples]

@@Bisqwit I am interested in an actual response / address of that point... I definitely am "ignorant" of how someone such as yourself handles an argument like that. I didn't get it from this video either... How do you explain accepting revelation A but rejecting revelation B? (Not trying to start a war here, I already admitted I am ignorant of how this is handled in religion, and I am genuinely curious)

[@Bisqwit]

Mutually contradictory truth statements cannot be simultaneously true. Christian scriptures say Jesus died on the cross and was resurrected. Islamic scriptures say Jesus never died on the cross. They cannot both be true. It is possible that neither of them is true, but both cannot be true simultaneously. (Note that allegories, estimations etc. are not truth statements.)

[@WikiPeoples]

@@Bisqwit Did Terry make a mutually contradictory claim? He said god spoke to him, which - theoretically - could be true right? All the prophets could have spoken to god. The fact that one did, does not exclude the possibility of another having done so? Or is it something else Terry said that makes his comments mutually exclusive?

[@Bisqwit]

Exploring the whole Biblical theology (which Terry was a proponent of) goes _way_ outside the scope of KZbin comments. You asked me why accept A but not B, and I provided a logical answer to show a trivial example of why you just cannot blanket accept _all_ revelation as truth. In practice, things are much more nuanced. You have to analyze things in the big picture. Does it fit in the overall style of existing revelation, or does it go somewhere entirely different? You have to know the material to answer this. It’s the same as if you tried to judge whether an email actually originates from its apparent sender. (Barring tell-tale signs in the Received headers,) There is no _logical_ way of proving it. You have to know the author, to be able to judge that something seems off. Same goes with scriptures. Truth is, even Israel, the nation from which the entire Bible originates, does not have a track record of correctly identifying prophets. From what I have read, the usual thing was that nearly _all_ prophets were treated as false prophets, and persecuted and sometimes killed. Until something very specific that they prophesied turns out actually happening. Oops. Guess they were a real prophet after all. Welp. Time to start taking steps to preserve this scroll. This is the criteria that prophets in Bible have had to go through.

[@Gismo359]

I don't get why you even included the part where you try to prove his 'revelation' wrong To me, it felt like justifying your religious beliefs at the expense of a dead man who suffered from schizophrenia, then later call his work disgusting Given that it is painstakingly obvious that his claims are a result of his illness, those comments only felt disrespectful and out of place

[@canal-xf5gs]

I haven't seen the whole video yet. But more information is better than less information. Normal people should be able to differentiate information from emotion.

[@c0xb0x]

Maybe people have been asking him if he thought the revelation was genuine.

[@Gismo359]

@@c0xb0x He suffered from schizophrenia and often spoke gibberish. Nobody in their right mind would honestly believe it

[@Bisqwit]

I am a believer in God, and this is a thing most of my subscribers know, and Terry was too. Many people are interested to know what I think of Terry’s ideas. Thanks for sharing _your_ opinion.

[@EximiusDux]

I absolutely like this channel and have been subscribed to it for 2 years by now... but sometimes I feel as if Bisqwit was hurt by, or hates atheists.

[@Bisqwit]

Atheists often use memes to try and discredit believers. In this video I used one such meme against atheists, and everyone loses their minds. (Note: Memes usually are exaggerations and often misguided or biased representations of some real idea for the purpose of evoking discussion.)

[@EximiusDux]

I began to notice it long before watching this video.

[@TheBlundert4ker]

Really liked the new animations you included in this video, Bisqwit. A nice change of pace.

[@j3s0n]

I think you got a bit too dramatic at the end saying looking at it is similar to going through his underwear drawer. I think that comparison is utterly ridiculous. I enjoyed the rest of the video though

[@Apollyion]

There are forks of TempleOS which have basic networking abilities. There is Discord application (a very basic one) for it as well. Nevertheless, as far as I remember when someone asked why God wanted such limitations to the system, he said "gore", which makes sense. In his mind, a holy place is no spot for such things, so in a way adding those features might be blasphemy. Anyhow, I like how you kept everything on a good note, and that you recognized his work. While Terry did specifically want people to get his OS and play around. (he even wrote fully fledged tutorials and hints for the system, it's clearly noticeable he did design it so others could use it if they never used anything like it) Now on your note you didn't want to use it because of the stated reason, I completely understand and agree. Knowing his backstory, and just generally speaking, when using his system I can feel his presence. It's just the weirdest thing ever. I think there is no other computer related 'thing' that gives away such eerie and ghostly feeling of someone's presence.

[@jkf16m96]

That OS doesn't feel like a product, it feels like a person's soul and is triggering

[@stevenlaczko8688]

I"m just realizing that I too felt that when I first tried it out. It was ominous... haunting. Terry's story being so sad made it worse. But after messing with the system and really seeing it as a modern commodore64, I basically fell in love. It's a lovely playground for recreational programming, exactly what he wanted. So many people are afraid to touch his life's work, but it is made to be used! Examples and documentation and help files galore! I think more people should really give it a go.

[@Chriva]

You have a verified name, new logo and a nice intro. Sweet! :D

[@Lougehrig10]

I have mad respect for you Bisqwit. You are exceptionally good at computer science, and you take the time to make well informed videos to try and pass on that knowledge. Not only that, but you analyze other's work and are very respectful of their thought processes and beliefs. Keep doing you

[@AlexVasiluta]

The reason people ask you to comment on TempleOS is purely for the memes

[@Lattamonsteri]

That is a nasty thing to say :(

[@Chriva]

@Hamete He was sick. Very, very nasty thing to say about someone who can't help it

[@dailydoseofeverything7141]

@Hamete why are you happy about it?

[@dab1732]

@Hamete death is a terrible thing. I'd not wish it upon anyone sincerely.

[@vwvwvwvvw6143]

@Hamete 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@asthmaticpathic]

Honestly the best video on Terry, it gets to the point and doesn’t leave out many details and covers details others don’t.

[@jamesbalajan3850]

I love your new intro! Great to see you dedicating yourself further to your interesting and insightful youtube videos.

[@andyanderson5303]

Did he just say his programming skills where not exceptional???

[@okktok]

Andy Anderson He did. To be fair, almost any computer engineer can develop a TempleOS-like system given enough time (Terry took almost 10 years to build the system). People generally don’t do it because it’s a useless OS and people often spend their time doing useful things. The entire OS has “only” 150k lines and 10 years is more than enough time to write this amount of code.

[@n-o-i-d]

@@okktok Since when is the number of lines of code an indicator of effort towards building a software project?

[@bakatoroi]

@@n-o-i-d Since Indians took over IT

[@hug00l]

YES!!!! the video I've been waiting for!!

[@TheKrazyKat89]

Terry Davis is a fascinating case study. Thank you for sharing your thoughts on the subject.

[@ricardo.mazeto]

5:36, Do you really think that's the way atheists think?

[@Bisqwit]

Only partially. That’s as much as a meme as anything else in the Internet nowadays.

[@penguinx42]

It's an incredibly unfair strawman and dismisses large amounts of thoughtful secular philosophy

[@Bisqwit]

Like I said, it’s a meme. Memes do that. They don’t usually pay much attention to things like facts, scholarship and so on.

[@ricardo.mazeto]

You know that's not how we think, and you saw that on that long thread on a recent video you put up. The same can be said about theists. Assume religion is the absolute truth, study science with previous assumptions, ignore facts and science because it is all bullshit, repeat. I guess you wouldn't like that.

[@Bisqwit]

Yes. The same can be said about theists. This was but one anti-atheist meme. There are _plenty_ of anti-theist memes. Just look up the Whaddo You Meme? channel. kzbin.info/door/1okSIA8UEY8OqvtjGHFvzA

[@l3monguy]

5:11 I like how you respected muslims with not putting any image representing muhammad. For the people asking why, in islam drawing pictures or making sculptures of prophets or god is forbidden

[@Bisqwit]

Thank you. You are correct in that I respect muslims. However, I very much do not respect their most obvious false prophet in the history. My wish is that every muslim in the world gets freed of this deception they are trapped in. I see them as victims of a dreadful deception. I could have put that Charlie Hebdo picture there, but an otherwise completely serious passage in the video was not the right time or place for ridicule. Instead, I put "pbuh" (peace be upon him) in blurry scraggly letters to lampshade the concept of “one of these is not like the others”. In retrospect, I probably should have put there "saw" instead (may Allah’s prayers be upon him), but maybe I opted otherwise because of possible confusion. And it’s not like the hadiths do not contain _numerous_ descriptions of Muhammad, such as the whiteness of his face, whiteness of his thigh, whiteness of his armpits, and so on… I see you may be Turkish. I recommend you this channel by a Turkish ex-Muslim: kzbin.infovideos?disable_polymer=1

[@l3monguy]

@@Bisqwit First, yes I'm Turkish. Yes, there are depictions about him, they say he had very dark long hair that is reaching to his shoulders, dark big eyes, shape of his foot and hands... But still, in Quran it says any image or sculpture representing any of the propthets (Quran accepts Jesus and most other religion's prophets such as David or Mosa, as a prophet too, but in a different way for sure) and God is forbidden, and should be destroyed or burned. Also, I'm not a muslim. I'm an atheist, most people would just search prophet Muhammad on Google and put a random picture they found, but you didn't, any muslim watching this would be grateful. If this comment doesn't make sense, sorry my English is unfortunately isn't that good :/

[@Bisqwit]

The Hadiths also indirectly say that any image or sculpture representing _any_ living thing - not just prophets - should be destroyed. Sahih Bukhari 3225 ”I heard Allah’s Messenger saying, the angels do not enter a house wherein there is a dog or any images of living creatures (a human being or animal etc).” So pious Muslims should destroy their computers if it happens to play this video, because this video certainly does depict people :-) Well, if you are an atheist, you might still find Ridvan’s (Apostate Prophet) channel interesting; he is currently an atheist too.

[@l3monguy]

@@Bisqwit Yeah forgot to tell about that, also that channel is interesting I will definitely take a look at it, have a nice day :)

[@anirangoncalvesbr]

Thanks a lot for this Bisqwit. You are a great inspiration for all of us.

[@sangramjitchakraborty7845]

And God decreed - Your Operating System shall have 16 bit VGA color.

[@aaronlippincott7385]

the video I needed but did not know. thank you Bisqwit!

[@RamLaska]

Bisqwit, I'm unclear as to why your reaction to TempleOS is so severe. You said that everything that is written today in terms of revelation is to be tested by scripture. It is so, or at least, I believe that as well. But there is a prevalent leap in logic that I would like to resist. It looks like this: person a claims some kind of revelation. Revelation turns out to be untrue or broadly doesn't fit with scripture. Therefore, person a is horrible (at least in some specific spiritual way), and nothing they do is worth consideration. The thing is, Terry was a very confused guy. Mental illness is horrible, and I'm painfully familiar with it. In once sense, Terry misrepresented his own esoteric internal dialogue as a mission from heaven, but in another sense, he launched towards the moon and merely made a suborbital trajectory. But it is still a suborbital trajectory (if you get my analogy). I think TempleOS is amazing purely because it's *entire* purpose is catechistic (sorry if I'm not using that word right, I'm very low-church) -- to teach people religious truths, or at least the Terry A. Davis understanding of it. I would LOVE to see a functional, well-written langauge/OS/app centered around Christianity on github/gitlabs/whatever. I don't mean just a bible app or a devotional app or a prayer times app or an advent calendar app. I mean an app that does something useful in an ordinary setting, which has religious truths weaved into its very structure. I think that is a fantastic, amazing idea. Was TempleOS a successful execution of said idea? Not really. Sadly, Terry and his work were not well known, except perhaps as a byword. While I've never booted up TempleOS, and I loathe the memification of Terry (let the man rest in peace!!), I think TempleOS is something that could stir up positive motion and thought. I don't mean that people will learn much biblical truth from it, but the intent was fascinating, and I'd like to see it repeated. I would like to honor Terry -- not specifically as a programmer/engineer, but as someone who had a very lofty idea (create a spiritual operating system that works well and isn't terribly campy), and actually followed through with it, despite the torment of schizophrenia. Blessings.

[@IanSwart]

Well done that was a very thoughtful comment

[@HairyPixels]

it's understandable imo considering how severely mentally ill he was. It feels like taking a trip into the realm of his madness and there's something very disturbing about that.

[@canal-xf5gs]

I hope Terry Davis didn't have to experiment some form of heavy trauma when he was young. If he did, and if the trauma was caused by an unnatural (human) cause, it would make me more angry than sad.

[@RamLaska]

Ian Swart Thanks! The issue is kind of close to me. I have dealt with relatively severe mental health issues (not as severe as poor Terry), but I have also had friends where their mental health issues *confused* their spirituality. The genuine faith got twisted up with the mental illness, and the result was a mish-mash of spiritual experiences, conspiracy theories, and paranoia. I have one friend from Kansas City who’s currently homeless in Redding, CA (the last time I heard from him.) In better days, I saw him at church conferences, visited his home, spent time with his kids. I’m not sure what mental health issues he has, but I noticed that his conspiracy narratives got more and more far out over the years. He was always a far out kind of guy - he had a rough past and had been powerfully redeemed. He didn’t speak in the usual churchy way, but there was a genuineness I could see in him, because I was able through my own life experiences to peer past the “weirdness,” which others were not able to do, sadly, which caused him to experience some painful rejections. In the past decade my conversations with him got increasingly odd. He would go from waxing poetic about Jesus and the Kingdom of Heaven to talking about aliens - it was very jarring. But anyways, the idea I want to get across is that we shouldn’t treat TempleOS as a meme, or a shrine, nor as some kind of dangerous thing. Peering into mental illness isn’t easy, and seeing the *mixture* of the spiritual and the carnal in peoples lives is more than many can take - they run screaming for the comfort of cold, black and white categorizations and systematized thought and belief. Human beings are freaking messy. We didn’t get any cleaner when we learned not to dribble food down our chin as a toddler, the mess just got internalized somewhat ;) I didn’t know Terry very well, and I haven’t watched much of his videos. They’re painful, even for me. I am not prepared to judge his motivations and his successes, nor to sift his wheat from his chaff. I’m not qualified, and I never will be, not in this age. But I have this inkling in my mind that behind the oddness and bravado of “the worlds greatest programmer” was something pure: Love for God, and perhaps for man as well. I don’t know how much of that got past the filter of his mental illness and possible trauma. But I know it was there. Rest well, Terry. *What you failed to do was far more impressive than all of our successes.*

[@rippspeck]

This is *the* comment. It has it all.

[@virtuabuesky3575]

Great video Bisqwit! Terry Davis is a big inspiration of mine, i especially admire his dedication. For me his is a reminder that you can achieve your dream goal if you just put in the time and work hard enough. Even tough his personality may be a big put off to anyone learning of his work, i think one should try and look past that. If you have a dream i think you should chase it and try to make it happen! The importance is maybe not the end product but that he managed to achieve his goal though all odds. RIP Terry Davis

[@Akispark]

I love this guy's accent so much.

[@D3ltaLabs]

Hey @bisqwit you clearly have the skill to design your own OS, is this something you would consider doing in the future.. ?

[@henriquec8848]

Bisqwit, what is your religion? Also, great video. Very respectful towards his memory. His mental illness invokes sorrow in my person, and I see myself unable to laugh on his absurd sounding statements.

[@Bisqwit]

I don’t like putting names on things, because the next thing that happens is that people assign preconceptions based on their ideas on what that label carries. I believe the Bible is the truth. I will eventually make videos (many of them) on my /c/MayimMayim channel, but for now you will just have to wait. Sorry.

[@henriquec8848]

@@Bisqwit Thanks for answering. By the way, I want to say that you have, somehow, enlightened me during a specially difficult period of my life. Your passionate videos regarding your interests shed lights of inspiration towards others. Thank you so much, Mr. Bisqwit. :)

[@calebgindelberger3046]

@@Bisqwit I may disagree with you religiously for my own reasons I won't go into detail on here, but I respect the fact that you don't go out of your way to call others wrong, and that you believe that everything should be checked against something concrete at all. Too much I've seen is just prejudice and oppression based on circular reasoning that comes back to "well this person says it's wrong so it's wrong". If you're going to believe a book, at least read the book.

[@canal-xf5gs]

@@calebgindelberger3046 You have to question everything. Then, with all the answers you got, you can then understand people the real way they are. Then, new questions will arise. This is life!

[@KuraIthys]

I have to say that I largely don't believe in religions largely because the holy texts or what have you behind them are frequently full of things so nonsensical and improbable that if it were a work of fiction the author would likely be embarrassed by it. I have no particular problem with the idea of God or gods, but what most religions present as 'truth' seems so absurd... Well, the scientific notion of 'extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence' would seem to apply. Plus, as a scientist, there are too many things that outright contradict known science in such texts, which makes it even harder to just accept them as 'truth'. I guess it's a mindset thing. Faith, insofar as being able to accept things as true with no real way to verify them even in theory, doesn't sit well with me... Now, I try to respect religious beliefs where possible, but it's hard to truly respect things that seem nonsensical to you. Or rather, it's hard to really respect things that get put up on a pedestal as important yet to you seem to be on the same level of 'truth' as the average work of fiction. I don't know if I'm making it clear what I'm getting at, but respecting the beliefs of others when you yourself don't find such beliefs plausible is a nice idea, but it seems as if it doesn't really work in practice, because how can you really respect something that you think is silly? Trying to do so is somewhat contradictory and a bit... uhh... Fake? Yeah. Not sure how else to put it...

[@pixelflow]

Its always nice to hear perspectives among creative people about each other. And your take on his revelations is pretty unique.

[@jumbo6498]

Appreciate your faithful outlook. Carry on friend.

[@uponthefaceoftheabyss4254]

Fun little video, thanks Bisquit. R.I.P. Terry

[@EbonySaints]

I'm personally glad that you made your opinion clear without engaging in silly and reductionist internet culture at large. As others have said, it's a testament to your maturity that you can make a video on this topic without coming off as voyeuristic and exploitative.

[@Bisqwit]

Thank you. I maybe overthink things too much, and I recognize that it disappoints some people that I did not go into deep technical study of this project, but I did try to stay as objective and respectful as possible, without compromising where I stand. That’s why e.g. I avoided mentioning the _name_ of the programming language as long as possible (until 2:24). These were intentional decisions. And the only reason, why I analyzed his visions / revelations at all, was because people know that I am a believer, so they _expect_ some kind of commentary on the subject to see where I stand. The question “what do you think about Terry Davis” is as much about my position as it is about Terry.

[@rlarkinson]

I agree. What he did was ultimately personal to him. It seems wrong to stomp on the memory of someone like that. What he did was possibly a stereotypical mix of that fine line between insanity & genius. I am sure if someone spent some time going through his work with a fine tooth comb, some insight, inspiration or positive use could be made from his work.

[@JesseBusman1996]

ThEy GlOw In ThE dArK

[@IanSwart]

TempleOS > Ubuntu Christian Edition

[@mallock8529]

is there such a thing as Christian Ubuntu?

[@rugxulo]

@@mallock8529 There was, ten years ago. It was unofficial and just came with some Bible apps and theming. Nothing earth-shattering, IIRC.

[@jaythomas3180]

Terry found the Linux kernel to be bloated and bogged with features. I doubt he'd like this comparison. :)

[@mallock8529]

@@jaythomas3180 unix is for glow in the darks...

[@ogueyratogeyrat7448]

Fuck linux

[@baltazarus3307]

Nice video Bisqwit! I enjoyed, like in every your video!

[@reopeda]

A lot of personal opinion put in here by the video author regarding Terry Davis, the authenticity of his spirituality, and the quality/nature of his work. Also, his voice is really creepy and eerily calm like a robot.

[@wacotablet1055]

*makes a review of TempleOS* >"I have never touched TempleOS" I mean I respect your religious beliefs, but how can you review/analyze something you have never used/installed?

[@demonicious_]

He didn't review it. He just analyzed it from a distance, as per the title.

[@Bisqwit]

@Demonicious Indeed. This video was a response to many people’s comments that went like this: “Hey Bisqwit, what do you think about TempleOS?” or “Hey Bisqwit, what do you think about Terry Davis, the author of TempleOS?” So in this video I spoke out what I think about TempleOS and about Terry Davis. In order for the video to be truthful response to this question it was important that during production, I do not invest effort in studying the product, or it would no longer be a valid answer, because it would influence my thoughts on the matter.

[@Bleenderhead]

"I got the shit gate." What is the Oracle trying to tell us?

[@canal-xf5gs]

No more Orion on Gaia?

[@isidore551]

something about Java... :P

[@jellocube27]

Great video, analysis, commentary, insights and all as usual. Thanks as always for your thoughts on these intelligent and compelling subjects.

[@Bisqwit]

Thank you!

[@kuriel07]

even though im an atheist, i respect both of you guys as programmer, i think there's nothing wrong with touching/peeking someone else work, the same way i did by watching your channel or terry davis's videos, the fact that i gain more knowledge meaning there are a lot of thing that still need to be learned

[@ixameg]

This specific kind of green color for the background made me think my video drivers were about to die! I've always wondered why it's this exact color...

[@zen4543]

I love the new introoo nice video

[@Bisqwit]

Thank you!

[@svens3722]

you forgot to mention that he won against god in chess.

[@amrojjeh]

I know this is a two year old video, but I'd just like to say that as a Muslim I completely understand you and I commend your honesty. It's hard to come across someone who really understands religion in the tech sphere. For anyone who isn't religious (and I don't use that term to mean spiritual), you've got to understand that it's never been tougher to express someone's religious beliefs. There's always someone who thinks they're smart and wants to disprove your "dumb religion." I'm assuming Bisqwit has dealt with that, it's not an unlikely assumption, and so he made a short and comprehensive response. I'm personally very glad that he did, and I'm glad to know there's at least one person on KZbin specializing in STEM and isn't pretending that somehow science replaced religion. Edit: On a side note, if you're reading this, I've been studying Romans lately and if it's possible, I'd love to ask you questions about it. I don't intend to crap on Christianity, and while I obviously don't appreciate the religion as a whole, there's enough common ground to call ourselves brothers and sisters. Let me know if you'd be down

[@joshuascholar3220]

I found it infuriating that he would seem to be saying something that's technically interesting but saying it in such a weird way that I couldn't figure out if it made sense or not.

[@ancientapparition1638]

Thanks for making this video

[@nostromo526]

Well…I guess going to see Michelangelo’s frescoes in the Sistine Chapel is out as well since it took longer for Michelangelo to complete those than it took Terry to complete TempleOS.

[@antonyjr.devlogs5957]

I like your new opening video. I guess everyone is changing for 2020.

[@seekthegeek]

Saw video about this with the creator , Terry Davis,o downloaded it from the website,copied it to an old USB stick and rebooted the PC and no joy. Is not on the USB. So should I burn it to a CD? As am curious about it...

[@Bisqwit]

The image seems to be designed for booting as a CD, yes. There may be ways to simulate that through USB bootloaders, but I don’t know if TempleOS supports it.

[@seekthegeek]

​@@Bisqwit OK.Thanks will try to burn it onto a 700mb CD. TOS_Distro.ISO & TOS_Lite.ISO From download site.

[@vladyslav-x6g]

Bisqwit, but where to get the drivers for the video card for Debian, otherwise I have a processor on the CPU # 1 70 degrees, and on the CPU # 2 50 degrees and crashes (thanks in advance)

[@Bisqwit]

Video card drivers are available in the same repository where you get software otherwise from. In case of NVidia, you will have to enable non-free software.

[@snipeefox]

So I’m your effort to be fair to the man and his OS, you do what everyone else does and paint the OS with a shitty brush and refuse to touch it because “muh raciss mental illness” Wow! So stunning and brave. What a unique perspective you’ve given us

[@KishoreG2396]

What is the song playing at 2:50? It doesn't seem to be in the description

[@Bisqwit]

It is from Final Fantasy V, one of the three world themes, this one: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iITWe6ivfdiplac I don’t seem to have it on my “extra” channel either. Sorry about that.

[@mallock8529]

ya templeos was very much one man's kingdom. i don't think it's possible to really understand it, only davis really could

[@GothAlice]

Neat! I was looking into this over the last two days. The build process is... intense. XP Holy-C is a part of that. Also the custom file system. :/ An absolutely fantastic achievement, and a testament to the productivity of mania.

[@iProgramInCpp]

That reminds me, have you ever coded an operating system? If not, do you ever plan to make one in the future? What do you think about *hobbyist* OS Development?

[@Bisqwit]

It’s the type of a project that has no upper limit to its complexity, and which pretty high initial investment before any gain in terms of effort.

[@iProgramInCpp]

@@Bisqwit I completely agree with this, it takes a super long time to understand and create the base, and adding application support. So far I have made a simple kernel+shell combo thing, but it does not have any access to a file system (apparently those are too complicated to me) apart from reading and running a basic notepad/calculator thing. It's very simple and doesn't run much of anything except itself.

[@garysedletsky9548]

I don't think it's that personal. Just like any piece of art - with or without influence of drugs, mood, illness or whatever - it is still a piece of art made by peson for other people. The guy made a tremendous work. He single-handedly put so much effort in it that it can be compared to building a physical temple.

[@kasimirdenhertog3516]

Wow, I thought this channel was all about technology/computers, turns out it’s also about religious debates.

[@Bisqwit]

I do videos about pretty much whichever topics interest me.

[@kasimirdenhertog3516]

Bisqwit yes, and you should! But religion is a brave choice, it can get a lot of folks excited 😬 That said, your take sheds a different light on it and made me realize that TempleOS can be offensive to some - and in fact, this might have been the actual goal of its creator.

[@Bisqwit]

Nah. I think Terry didn’t “give a damn” what people think. He created according to his vision, which was foremost a platform of old-style programming and secondly a tribute to God, as shaped by his mind.

[@relex28]

you should make audio books! your voice is satisfying to listen to. Greetings from the netherlands

[@canal-xf5gs]

Terry Davis was super intelligent. His temple is beautiful. Looks like the computer is expressing itself.

[@kdmq]

The bird is singing the song from the flight simulator HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I DIED.

[@JoLiKMC]

Wuh…?! Th-this took a turn! What the…

[@anon_y_mousse]

This is a very interesting take on the whole subject. Now I find myself wondering what an OS would look like for each person were they to each design their own. As in, if you wrote an OS, what would it look like, how would it function. I think mine would be completely terminal based with heavy use of AALib, but I'm not entirely sure I fully understand my own mind, even now.

[@tonym5857]

Respect and passion 👏👏👏👏. Thank you for the video.

[@artemic1022]

Woah, nice new intro 👌

[@tomh6339]

It's tragic really, you go to the TempleOS subreddit and there are all these lost souls there trying to generate a personality cult around Terry A. Davis

[@tomh6339]

Terry used reddit.

[@ethanviolet1]

Maybe time to delve into some simple operating system programming and other low level concepts like this? i think it would be pretty cool

[@marcoperches3078]

He programs an entire OS, by himself, from scratch, including the language and compilers , and you said his programming skills weren't that exceptional? Really?

[@Bisqwit]

The fact that he can do a great amount of work is not a testament to his skill, but to his available time. You only need to know so much. Certainly an amount equivalent to some high-level programming courses (I can’t label them as I never went to those), but nothing exceptional.

[@thefreerealestate9048]

In the 22nd century, he what?????

[@cldgonz]

People who haven't lived other's lives in the first place tend to underestimate other people's lives, but it's natural, yet they actually don't have to be explicit about this phenomenon; sometimes there are people who don't think too deeply about it Personally I think that's a chronic problem that's been going on for thousands of years, and I also think that's what's happening in the comments in this video, whether the writer is memer or not I don't have any complaints because you seem to have compromised and supplemented that part well; You explained everything, regardless of the direction, and I think it's a little too much to ask you to explain *everything*... Usually I don't want to talk much about the comments section because it makes myself seems like I'm really super proud of self, but sometimes I write a few lines because... It's bound to *explode*; It happens because everyone's interests are different, but sometimes I really feel something unsettling about the thing Doubts give people a chance, but they become the source of all evil; I wish all the arguments here could be settled somehow...

[@defaultusername123]

*TERRY= BEST YT PROGRAMMER* *BISQWIT= BEST YT VOICE*

[@by2083]

not really

[@KishoreG2396]

What is the music used at 3:00 and 3:45?

[@Bisqwit]

One of those Final Fantasy V world songs. It seems I have not listed the songs used in this video in the extra-channel.

[@Reanplayzz]

Hi, thank you for this video ^^ First of all: I have to strongly disagree with your statement that Terry was not exceptionally talented. Many well-known OS developers and also ex-workers from big tech companies titled his work as 'comparable to building a skyscraper from scratch, completely alone'. Not just did he program a new programming language, he also based an entire OS on it, without any help. Just to get an idea of what he had stemmed: Even the old systems as MSDOS involved hundreds of people for development, conception, design and documentation. He did it all alone, and developed by the way a whole new way of structuring an OS. It's absolutely unique and impressive what he did. Second of all: I got confused about your personal opinion. I'm not a native speaker, so maybe I got you wrong here and there, but I first understood you in a way that you honesty admire the project and his passion. Two sentences later you say that it would trigger feelings of disgust in you. What do you mean by that?

[@lynksdisease]

way to spit in terry's face Joel

[@NapanTR]

I think he is afraid of Terry.

[@Bisqwit]

So I am not allowed to disagree in any manner or express my views? Pray tell how else should I have conveyed my words? I labelled Terry as genius, and stated my admiration of his passion several times in the video, and I also said that I really _really_ don’t like speaking the following words of a passionate artist, but I have to be honest of how I feel, because this is a video that I made in response to people asking me what do I think. WHAT ELSE COULD I HAVE SAID TO SATISFY YOU???

[@BrianCroweAcolyte]

I like the comparison's Terry made to other operating systems: Linux is a semi truck, Windows is a car, and Temple OS is a motorcycle. "Linux can run two games faster than Temple OS, but Temple OS can run one game faster."

[@chegadesuade]

I really enjoyed your perspective on this, especially your point about any religious revelation having to align with scripture. Your videos are as interesting and entertaining as they are educational, please keep it up!

[@Kalle72]

What happendend at 2:22? Is it a joke? Terrible transition!

[@Bisqwit]

That very part in my script goes like this: 　In the early 21th century, he began gaining fame and notority with the operating system he wrote himself. He also livestreamed programming on this system, and participated often in discussions on Reddit and other sites. In the *22nd century*, he w- 　[wash out, switch to worrisome music, take progressively darker tones as the story progresses]

[@24_sanketgolar96]

Please tell your cygwin configuration,compiler,etc

[@Bisqwit]

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[@anwarulbashirshuaib5673]

I feel sad for Terry. He should've been given proper treatment. Instead his dad and sister threw him out of their house, making him homeless in his last few days.

[@kvdrr]

What would you think about debating with youtube atheists live on your other channel?

[@Bisqwit]

I am very slow at phrasing my thoughts concisely and exactly. That is why most of my posts and comment replies on KZbin indicate “edited”. Thus, regardless of topic, I would not do very well in live debates, even if I spoke English perfectly fluently.

[@kvdrr]

@@Bisqwit That's often the issue with live debates... communication skills are out of scope of meritorical discussions, yet required to prove your point. Anyway, I hope you will try to take part in the atheist/theist discussion in some form or another - I'd love to see someone of your eloquence take a stance on one of the more prominent atheist arguments. Not only will it broaden your viewers' horizons, but yours as well in the process. Looking forward to your future content, Bisqwit.

[@CarcinogenSDA]

@@Bisqwit as a person who is an agnostic atheist, and who was once militantly against anyone who believed in religion of any kind, I'd say you have no reason to debate atheists anyway because most of them do default to some pretty intellectually dishonest tactics, just as Christians will do the same. I can only speak for myself, but I think that nobody has the right answers, and that humans, the creations of humans, and the writings of humans can never properly represent a God's will, if a God does exist. There has been nothing said or left by a God to truly communicate that. With that premise in mind, I came to realize and believe that there is ultimately nothing wrong with believing in a God, even if I can not bring myself to believe in one. I personally believe that most atheists' anger is misdirected at the mis-deeds of organized religion. The hierarchy of organized religion is run by humans, therefore the perceptions and actions of these religions is all human. I hate organized religion. I believe it has a manipulative agenda to subvert its believers into doing seriously messed up things to other people. People kill each other in the name of organized religion every day, and that is where my own beef is. Consequently, if there was no organized religion, and nobody forced anyone to believe, would it be wrong to believe in a God? I don't think so. You are a believer, you believe in a specific set of Abrahamic religious texts, and if that is the conclusion you have come to, and it brings you the most comfort and purpose in your life... then you should. Life is all about the quality of our emotions, and it's not my right or any other agnostic atheist's right to try to take that away from anyone. Pascal's Wager is an idea that I'm a fan of. It raises a very simple answer to the question of believing in Christianity, but it makes no difference to me in this life to believe or not, I think; humanity has obfuscated the idea for me so much that I think there's no point in even thinking about it, as weird as that might sound to you. I came to be a non-believer just as easily as you came to be a believer, and that's okay. The only difference is, I quit feeling animosity towards Christians over time because everyone's just trying to live life their own way. If Life and the Afterlife are a cruel joke to be played on the idea of me having free will, and if I'm wrong, I hope that God isn't as petty as Christians, Jews, and Muslims make him out to be. I'm already very lucky to be alive, and this life is sacred on its own. And to get in the middle of that fight is a losing battle for everyone. 😄 I'm a fan of what you do, having loosely looked at your stuff since TASvideos, and I am glad to see you're happy and doing what you do. I just wanted to say that, and maybe hopefully give you some peace that not all atheists suck, just as I learned that not all Christians suck. Keep being you. :)

[@FODKOM]

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