Bitcoin Cash Vs Bitcoin Core (BTC) | Roger Ver Debates Two Bitcoin Core Supporters

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5 жыл бұрын

Roger Ver debates two blockstream and bitcoin core supporters at the Huobi Carnival in Korea.
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@acrustycat
@acrustycat 5 жыл бұрын
I love bitcoin but Roger just always make sense- he’s always spot on
@duciduci.italianfood
@duciduci.italianfood 5 жыл бұрын
Roger, you are a smart guy, do you need to waste time with people who cannot express their own opinions? they are just puppets
@ibackpackcanada
@ibackpackcanada 5 жыл бұрын
Reuban seems nice enough. I think he's just caught between a rock and a hard place. His friends are likely Corey's, and it can be scary to break out of your circle and speak out as an individual. The other dude Calvin from the other video seems to still be a rabid fingers-in-ears blockstream supporter. Poor guy. Kind of sad. Glad to hear their thoughts are being questioned and pushed. I imagine they're stuck in an echo chamber. I welcome both of these young men with wide open arms to Bitcoin Cash.
@ibackpackcanada
@ibackpackcanada 5 жыл бұрын
Lol classic Calvin wanting free money.
@ibackpackcanada
@ibackpackcanada 5 жыл бұрын
Calvin... paypal?! Visa?! wtf.... You're losing that invite
@pohutukawa2346
@pohutukawa2346 5 жыл бұрын
LOL Ver ambushed them, said he wasn't butting in and then proceeded to butt in constantly, and then became offended at the slightest thing. Typical Ver. Always looking for simplistic soundbite-like clips to continue his misguided mission. Surprised those two guys gave him the time of day. I wouldn't.
@pohutukawa2346
@pohutukawa2346 5 жыл бұрын
Ver offered. The guy accepting took the wind out of Ver's bcash stunt. OWNED.
@eKoush
@eKoush 5 жыл бұрын
lol. owned while being basically autistic? that was the cheapest thing anyone could do and it wasn't about "taking the wind" out of anything. Roger put 10 dollars instead of initial one dollar because he could care less. Also everybody else knows that the transaction went trough super fast anyway.
@taojones4941
@taojones4941 5 жыл бұрын
Lol. I would not want to debate Roger either. He makes too much sense.
@pohutukawa2346
@pohutukawa2346 5 жыл бұрын
What, exactly, is the sense he makes? It's not a debate: it's a PR stunt. Surely you get this? LOL
@enzofer2223
@enzofer2223 5 жыл бұрын
Tao do you hold btc or just bch?
@taojones4941
@taojones4941 5 жыл бұрын
@@pohutukawa2346 I think this is for PR. Yes. But it showcases the different worldviews. I'm personally Anti-BTC.
@taojones4941
@taojones4941 5 жыл бұрын
@@friedrichlutz1934 You are a weak person Friedrich. You would also be fighting to put yourself back into the matrix.
@taojones4941
@taojones4941 5 жыл бұрын
@@enzofer2223 Hey buddy. I do not have any BTC anymore. Haven't for a year now. However I do occasionally receive a BTC payment. I shapeshift it to BCH immediately.
@LilSwag1
@LilSwag1 5 жыл бұрын
"It sounds fun. I see it on Twitter. I say it." This is the typical process how Bitcoin Core fans develop their opinion.
@YuriShevchouk
@YuriShevchouk 5 жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ! So much drama towards the end.
@pieterbosch87
@pieterbosch87 5 жыл бұрын
Its sad indeed but reality... I am glad Roger posted this video because it shows the ongoing discussions are very real.
@eKoush
@eKoush 5 жыл бұрын
and so fake!
@MichaelMillerGR
@MichaelMillerGR 5 жыл бұрын
You cannot deny that Roger has a point. I'm not really a big fan of his personality, but I respect his persistence.
@ronswingz1567
@ronswingz1567 Жыл бұрын
You know what I really like roger and the message he is spreading. BCH forever!.
@cspychala76
@cspychala76 5 жыл бұрын
As usual anyone debating Roger gets owned.
@duncanashworth8655
@duncanashworth8655 5 жыл бұрын
I'm a big fan of Roger and Bitcoin cash, but I really don't see the point of these kinds of conversations. He isn't going to persuade the Bitcoin Core people and for the non-initiated he comes across as aggressive and desperate to score points. Sorry Roger, you do an amazing job of promoting the use of Bitcoin (Cash). I think you are more effective when you focus on talking to new adopters or Bitcoiners who are open minded.
@phamnuwen9442
@phamnuwen9442 5 жыл бұрын
Proving that r/bitcoin is censored is an important part of talking to new adopters.
@michaelk1589
@michaelk1589 5 жыл бұрын
I think exposing levels of lunacy with those guys is pretty crucial for people to see and acknowledge that bitcoin and the whole idea has been compromised. I was on the greed train for some time and I have realised that after conversations made by Roger such as those.
@basedxrp
@basedxrp 5 жыл бұрын
The point is to show the world that they are following snake oil salesman. He's not trying to convince the snake oil salesman. He is trying to convince the person that may fall into their net.
@leondavibe
@leondavibe 5 жыл бұрын
if bitcoiners are open minded they are already bitcoincash converts, this is for new users to prevent the indoctrination/ religion. core followers will have to be the late adopters when greed forces them to swop to bch, we have to work on adoption and enough block space for all the failing fiat country users, adoption will bring price and hashpower. the moment bch vs btc reaches 1:1 that is when the real test of btc religious following will be tested its difficult to convince those that just compare price and choose a side based on that and logic seems to fail on them none so blind as those that don't want to see
@eKoush
@eKoush 5 жыл бұрын
as long as the opponents are douchebags or hypocrites, he can be as off putting as he wants to be. that's the best part of it. go roger.
@jonathansilverblood52
@jonathansilverblood52 5 жыл бұрын
The first person seems to have a open mindset, takes the time to choose his words wisely and stays on, and engages with the topic at hand. Where can I see more with him, I want to know how he sees the world..
@jonathansilverblood52
@jonathansilverblood52 5 жыл бұрын
Sad to see at the end that his request to see the footage before posting was denied.
@UltraRik
@UltraRik 5 жыл бұрын
I liked him, I hope him and Roger stay cool so we can have more calmer, less uncomfortable discussions to see.. Roger is smart and passionate about his principles but he can really put pressure on people..
@phamnuwen9442
@phamnuwen9442 5 жыл бұрын
He asked for permission in advance and offered to end the interview if they wanted to. What more do you want? You can't reneg on a contract after you agreed. Advancing uncensorable cash for the world is fucking monumentally important business that cannot be held back by being over-sensitive to people's feelings.
@jonathansilverblood52
@jonathansilverblood52 5 жыл бұрын
I've now engaged in several discussion with him, and I am no longer impressed. From my point of view (and he very likely disagrees with this), he has a relatievly narrow mindset and is merely skilled at defusing the questions to contain the discussion withing a controlled narrative. ...his hat now makes sense.
@morntina3806
@morntina3806 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to introduce you to forex trading and Bitcoin mining,would you be interested?.
@Arzgore
@Arzgore 5 жыл бұрын
Should of asked "is it normal for you to repeat things you don't understand"
@tstcikhthys
@tstcikhthys 2 ай бұрын
*have
@SilverSurferFTW
@SilverSurferFTW 5 жыл бұрын
The guy on the left should go play with his action man.
@UltraRik
@UltraRik 5 жыл бұрын
lol let's not stoop to their level.. even tho I understand there are no points to be addressed from the kid on the left, he just tried to troll Roger all the time
@ciaran112233
@ciaran112233 5 жыл бұрын
That young man is super disrespectful and just comes across as nervous and Dumb, not a great representative of anything no matter what side of the debate you stand on.
@pohutukawa2346
@pohutukawa2346 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, Ver is super disrespectful and come across exactly as you describe: nervous and dumb. Totally agree with you.
@ciaran112233
@ciaran112233 5 жыл бұрын
You're just ignorant if you think that haha, Roger is an elite level debater.
@johnhancock3031
@johnhancock3031 5 жыл бұрын
I'm not anti-Ver or anything, but he's not a great debater from my standpoint. He is intelligent, I'm not saying he isn't, but he gets overly passionate and he also repeats the same argument over and over. I'm not saying that some of his arguments aren't solid, they often are, but say it once and move on to another point. Also, as they mentioned in the video, his questions are overly "leading" in nature. The problem with leading questions is that they are designed to force agreement by pitting you against social opinion, if you don't agree you become some kind of villain or idiot to some crowd of people. That's not good for improving intellectual discussion on what is a good idea and what is less of a good idea.
@pabloandres4339
@pabloandres4339 5 жыл бұрын
I remember the post of the Blockstream supporters about how segwit will incease the block size, but was a bunch of lies... because the plan was never meant to have more capacity but to generate an expensive settlement system. They lie to the community by making many people think segwit will mitigat the immediate danger of high block fees. Until now any core developer has the balls to say in public, OUR ROAD MAP IS TO MAKE BTC AN EXPENSIVE SETTLEMENT LAYER. but instead they have been quite.
@phamnuwen9442
@phamnuwen9442 5 жыл бұрын
Reddit is crap. We need a general-purpose forum on the BCH blockchain.
@donha475
@donha475 5 жыл бұрын
If only someone could invent something like that...! haha they could name it memo.cash or something!
@-ED-
@-ED- 5 жыл бұрын
MEMO.cash ;-)
@trbctherealbitcoinclub2885
@trbctherealbitcoinclub2885 5 жыл бұрын
Memo.cash is the best tool of diverse truthful uncensored communication ever invented!
@pohutukawa2346
@pohutukawa2346 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, please. I would support this totally. Then there might be a use for the BCH chain.
@trbctherealbitcoinclub2885
@trbctherealbitcoinclub2885 5 жыл бұрын
@Thomas Hägg the problem is that you think you know something without giving it a try.
@dracarys3137
@dracarys3137 5 жыл бұрын
Psychologically What the Korean guy is doing with the XRP stuff is called passive aggressiveness ....
@friedrichlutz1934
@friedrichlutz1934 5 жыл бұрын
ehm..what? roger ver is the most passive aggressive perosn on this planet and you call a normal tech guy passive aggressive.wtf is wrong with you guys. first they liked trump and then they love roger ver.. you also,must be american . idiot
@deytrader5451
@deytrader5451 5 жыл бұрын
Hashtag owned their asses. 😂 Great job Roger 👍
@Michael-im4rs
@Michael-im4rs 5 жыл бұрын
17:10 Roger: ‘How was your experience with your last BTC transaction?’ Core supporter: ‘it was fast, it was cheap’ Roger: ‘How cheap?’ Other Core Supporter: ‘Well that’s not relevant’ 🤦‍♂️ I live in Venezuela. A BTC transaction will cost an average of 1 monthly salary. I will not ignore this behaviour. I will not let a higher economic class speak on behalf of Bitcoin. If this is the Blockstream narrative then I will die educating the world through mere facts in a civil manner that Bitcoin’s greatest benefit to humanity is by use as a global decentralized currency.
@phamnuwen9442
@phamnuwen9442 5 жыл бұрын
A monthly salary is below $1 in Venezuela? Not sure if that's correct. But even if it's higher I agree with your general sentiment. A BTC tx is hundreds of times higher than a BCH tx. blockchair.com/compare Ripple etc are centralized so not relevant.
@trbctherealbitcoinclub2885
@trbctherealbitcoinclub2885 5 жыл бұрын
What about the censorship on r/btc which is getting quite extreme as they banned three accounts of The Real Bitcoin Club members permanently? /u/bitcornio and /u/WhereIsTheLove78 and /u/TRBC-RealBitcoinClub are all banned permanently even if TRBC is the biggest promoter of BCH in human history so far by creating the first bitcoin neighborhood in Barcelona: map.therealbitcoin.club YOU PUSHED CENSORSHIP SO FAR THAT NOW WE ARE PROMOTING DASH AS THE REAL BITCOIN BECAUSE WE TRULY BELIEVE THAT BCH HAS LOST THE BATTLE AND WILL NEVER CATCH UP AGAIN WITH WHAT DASH HAS ACHIEVED ALREADY WHILE ROGER VER WAS FOCUSED ON PISSING ON BTC INSTEAD OF BEING PRODUCTIVE
@Michael-im4rs
@Michael-im4rs 5 жыл бұрын
Pham Nuwen Yes, always under $5. My partner is a medical doctor and she earns $5 a month. In January the bolivar was trading at 1 USD to ~100,000 and is now trading from ~900,000,000. The bolivar is a falling dagger and wage increases are not even close to paralleling the decrease of the bolivar. I take these very simple arguments that Roger constantly pushes very seriously and if I were that Blockstream employee I would be ashamed to be smiling at the fact my company is slowing down the process of humanity and economic freedom. And thank you for not editing this video. Let people interpret the facts as they are.
@gen-X-trader
@gen-X-trader 5 жыл бұрын
You're saying the monthly income in Venezuela is 3 to $0.05? Because that's the average Bitcoin transaction fee. Roger is who got me into Bitcoin so I'm not going to trash talk him but there is one big glaring issue. BTC has the majority of the hash power and if you look at the price chart between Bitcoin and Bitcoin cash. Bitcoin cash keeps falling.
@Michael-im4rs
@Michael-im4rs 5 жыл бұрын
Kyle V the averages salary is difficult to calculate because bolivar literally declines daily if you follow @dolartoday on Twitter. Maduro increases the wages every so often which will still not move as fast as the decline in value. As of last week he removed 0000’s of the price. The fees are lower on Bitcoin now because there are very little transactions on the network, therefore if Bitcoin were to grow in value, transactions would only increase again in size. If BTC continues to be less popular, sure, the fees will become less, and that’s what we’re seeing. Despite this, fees are still significantly less on BCH, which also has a much more sustainable network to a larger population of users.
@standuppdx
@standuppdx 5 жыл бұрын
That guy is the same guy that showed up to the BCH meetup that roger debated - do they only have 5 or 6 dragons den people to go around?
@-ED-
@-ED- 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, it is the same guy. I can't believe that this guys is a complete moron with the way he acts and talks.... just pathetic, if I was there, I would blow that guys out with my own logic... man I need to go to that Anarchopulco next year
@ZEN43D
@ZEN43D 5 жыл бұрын
Has Rodger ever had a debate with Andreas Antonopoulos?
@danielpeacock2772
@danielpeacock2772 Жыл бұрын
No because he knows Andreas would destroy him in the debate
@TheIsaacLibby
@TheIsaacLibby 5 жыл бұрын
Was good and seemed like an honest debate until 12 minutes in when BTC starts trying to play their usual games.
@Harry-sf9sc
@Harry-sf9sc 5 жыл бұрын
Core fans went crazy when Cobra showed support for BCH...they were terrified that bitcoin.org might show support as a result...why if "nothing represents Bitcoin"?
@sunbirdism
@sunbirdism 2 ай бұрын
"I just want free money" If someone loses the argument bigtime, you learn a lot about his character.
@ondiras
@ondiras 5 жыл бұрын
It's like watching a autism support group debating about stubbornness.
@Arzgore
@Arzgore 5 жыл бұрын
Asian Man got soooooooo triggered
@pieterbosch87
@pieterbosch87 5 жыл бұрын
#bchstandard
@friedrichlutz1934
@friedrichlutz1934 5 жыл бұрын
you little rasist got sooo brown arround your mouth licking roger rabbits poo poo off
@taojones4941
@taojones4941 5 жыл бұрын
For the record. You must freeze up 20 xrp ripple just to create a wallet. This at today's rate cost you 6$
@enzofer2223
@enzofer2223 5 жыл бұрын
Tao do you hold any btc or just bch?
@taojones4941
@taojones4941 5 жыл бұрын
@@enzofer2223 Hi there buddy. I do not hold BTC at all.
@enzofer2223
@enzofer2223 5 жыл бұрын
@@taojones4941 - haha that's so brave! More commitment then Roger himself. I must admit I don't like bch... I like the idea of bigger blocks and hope btc add this at some point in addition to the lightning network. What would be your thoughts if btc at some point did raise the block size? Also I do own a very small amount of bch 'just in case' (but personally hope it goes to zero lol)
@taojones4941
@taojones4941 5 жыл бұрын
@@enzofer2223 I'm not sure what's the future. Just following the best course of action I can based on my own judgement. I wish BTC people well but I know BTC will fail. Just my thoughts.
@enzofer2223
@enzofer2223 5 жыл бұрын
@@taojones4941- Ok that's fair enough and diplomatic enough lol. How would you feel if btc did raise the block size at some point? Also how do you feel about the bad public perception of Bch? Do you think that is something that exists, and if so could it be changed?
@alirabali6012
@alirabali6012 5 жыл бұрын
I want a Bitcoin tshirt (BCH) !!
@antoz8229
@antoz8229 5 жыл бұрын
Lol well done Roger
@pohutukawa2346
@pohutukawa2346 5 жыл бұрын
LOL love the sarcasm.
@TLDRAU
@TLDRAU 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this, glad to see Ruben was able to have a logical conversation and I hope you do have a chance to have a discussion with him some time.. maybe on his terms? Funny to see him back pedal towards the end of the discussion.. (Did I say something I will be roasted for?) I would like a chance to review the footage before you upload it. Roger: 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 The other guy sums up /r/Bitcoin in human form
@5c4v3ng3r
@5c4v3ng3r 5 жыл бұрын
r/bitcoin in human form. Nailed it
@pohutukawa2346
@pohutukawa2346 5 жыл бұрын
One day you might understand how manipulative people can be with raw video when it has been edited and sliced and diced. Ver is demonstrably manipulative and would absolutely do this in my view. The guy with the cap asked for the courtesy to view the video before uploading and Ver declined. Why? Any ethical person/debater would do this.
@TLDRAU
@TLDRAU 5 жыл бұрын
@@pohutukawa2346 anyone who is advised that there is a camera recording a conversation should be making a decision at the start of the conversation as to whether they want to continue.. or when they're reminded twice that they no longer have to continue if they dont want to.. You understand raw footage is raw footage and isnt sliced or diced. You need to read what you write sometimes dude.
@jeschild
@jeschild 5 жыл бұрын
hearing that young chap on the left talk and react is very irritating and frustrating. always avoiding the question with a bunch of crappy and bs responses. when he start talking, i end the video.
@mengpao86
@mengpao86 5 жыл бұрын
I loved how Roger trying to ask why he does that. I m puzzled by the same curiosity too, why does some people keep saying and repeating something they dont know what its for or what is means
@russianburger
@russianburger 5 жыл бұрын
Learn to use fast forward...
@pohutukawa2346
@pohutukawa2346 5 жыл бұрын
Ver orchestrated this whole thing. Why aren't you irritated and frustrated with that? Ah, we know why. You're a bcash shill.
@enzofer2223
@enzofer2223 5 жыл бұрын
@@pohutukawa2346 - Exactly!Bitcoin I really can't understand how these bcashers don't realise they are spurring on a bully. He doesn't want to listen to their answers and definitely not analyse them.
@friedrichlutz1934
@friedrichlutz1934 5 жыл бұрын
I BET IN REALITY YOU HAVE 90 DISLIKES
@LilSwag1
@LilSwag1 5 жыл бұрын
So these guys say: 1 r/Bitcoin censorship is good 2 the whitepaper is irrelevant 3 "censorship-resistance" is the main goal of BTC Can it become any more ironic?
@MrIntermilan17
@MrIntermilan17 5 жыл бұрын
The big drama queen
@pohutukawa2346
@pohutukawa2346 5 жыл бұрын
Ver is all drama queen, for sure.
@prashpatel6436
@prashpatel6436 5 жыл бұрын
Lol
@abesstian9055
@abesstian9055 5 жыл бұрын
so childish..
@makakilokid4793
@makakilokid4793 4 жыл бұрын
I think Roger is brilliant but it was his attitude that stopped me from looking further into BitcoinCash but once I did look into it I seen it was something I could support but watching Roger debate people is kinda a turn off.
@hasanain.3848
@hasanain.3848 5 жыл бұрын
i was big in BTC but seems like those dont really understand and korean guy seems to know nothing all he cares money hahah
@mattjohnson6874
@mattjohnson6874 5 жыл бұрын
Good job Ruben. It's very nice to see someone from the Core side who can actually articulate positions and exist in a competitive environment rather than have to ban everyone who disagrees. Big thanks to Ruben for being pro.
@flagermusen
@flagermusen 5 жыл бұрын
What world do you live in where that guy was even remotely articulate?? I swear some people live in opposite world.
@Michael-im4rs
@Michael-im4rs 5 жыл бұрын
Matt Johnson that’s exactly why he asked to remove the video 🤦‍♂️
@-ED-
@-ED- 5 жыл бұрын
The guy literally lied his ass off and didn't want to answer direct questions as he knows answering them would wither make him a liar or admit that he & Core are wrong. The guy can be a pro liar only... which he is... this is exactly how politicians talk... and everyone knows they are full of shit.
@basedxrp
@basedxrp 5 жыл бұрын
Wasn't very articulate. He just kept dodging and saying it is irrelevant.
@045roo
@045roo 5 жыл бұрын
Yea... Pay Pal, Visa, Master Card... Are you serious? Go to the countries where the currency collapsed.
@acrustycat
@acrustycat 5 жыл бұрын
I couldn’t stop laughing when the guy couldnt answer what the “xrp standard” thing meant LOL
@johnhancock3031
@johnhancock3031 5 жыл бұрын
The censorship is obviously wrong and the argument that the "moderated content" doesn't count as censorship is flatly stupid. The idea of blocking out a voice of how to implement future forks and updates to the network goes against everything we were suppose to believe in as blockchain enthusiasts. Forget the "gold" or "cash" argument, the main point was an immutable record, as in, not something central controls could censor. Clearly, the guys running the project on BTC are selling out in order to be rich once the bankers buy it out and manipulate it (already happened it seems). Not a BCH fanboy, just calling it like it is.
@zorg621
@zorg621 5 жыл бұрын
At 5:35 look at the vein popping out of roger vers neck. Ive seen this in other videos hes done and it usually happens when hes agitated and trying to back someone into a corner by over taking them and oversimplifying complex dynamics. Hes just trying to bully people
@darkpoggo
@darkpoggo 5 жыл бұрын
Well done Roger!!!
@pohutukawa2346
@pohutukawa2346 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, well done Roger. Just marginalised himself even more. Check BCH's price now and in a year. How much value are you going to lose?
@enzofer2223
@enzofer2223 5 жыл бұрын
@@pohutukawa2346- Thank you for the sanity check, I really can't understand how some (the minority thank god) can't see straight through Roger Ver.
@other2718
@other2718 5 жыл бұрын
great
@busymountain
@busymountain 5 жыл бұрын
You dont make points wanting to contest with Core. You win by focusing on the better coin and it’s tech. Core is going down by itself because of its use case, conversely BCH will thrive for the same reason. We know you are pissed because BTC got hijacked and the supporters are not being intellectually honest - who cares. Focus on BCH only........to teach the truth you don’t need to destroy the bad. People are drawn to the truth.
@theenergeticdomain.2379
@theenergeticdomain.2379 3 ай бұрын
Roger is great. ❤
@crimsonking6585
@crimsonking6585 5 жыл бұрын
Roger's the man
@adelebuznowa4342
@adelebuznowa4342 5 жыл бұрын
Any one who have read Murray N. Rothbard's books? As a beginner in economics, which book of him would be great to get started?
@trflw
@trflw 5 жыл бұрын
That core guy in white tshirt is a clown.
@friedrichlutz1934
@friedrichlutz1934 5 жыл бұрын
please i wanna see you !!!!
@tylerfrohlich339
@tylerfrohlich339 5 жыл бұрын
I've watched several interviews with Roger debating supporters of the lightning network and they all seem seriously uninformed. BCH is Bitcoin. That is not a biased statement, that is the reality. BTC is an outdated Bitcoin. The lightning network is for the survival of the old system, that's it. The one difference is you cannot shut down BCH so the inevitable will happen and there will be a flip. Those that laugh at Roger have no idea what's going on. I was one of them.
@BitcoincomOfficialChannel
@BitcoincomOfficialChannel 5 жыл бұрын
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@BCHPeerToPeerElectronicCash
@BCHPeerToPeerElectronicCash 4 ай бұрын
Gracias Roger ❤
@jerryfrench
@jerryfrench 5 жыл бұрын
Roger that is what makes you the man, the patients you have is a god send gift, Thanks for steadfast drive, the world thanks you.
@friedrichlutz1934
@friedrichlutz1934 5 жыл бұрын
and hates him minimum equaly to all the disklikes he gets
@daveylarsen
@daveylarsen 5 жыл бұрын
I don't own either coin but Roger easily won this debate.
@srheal07
@srheal07 5 жыл бұрын
Bitcoin cash, bitcoin core are both forks, and both come from alias satoshi; the point of bitcoin was to be given to a community to have difference of views and ideas to make bitcoin better. So what people should understand is that bitcoin cash, bitcoin core are essentially or should essentially have the license agreement that satoshi required for everyone to have when using the bitcoin source code.
@russianburger
@russianburger 5 жыл бұрын
You forked the coin, fork the subreddit - FFS, it's not that complicated Roger...
@-ED-
@-ED- 5 жыл бұрын
Its very simple indeed... BTC gets hijacked by bankers though Blockstream, the reddit gets hijacked also, people start being banned that don't agree with Blockstream's narrative which is in complete opposition to BITCOIN... BTC is banker's sabotaged scam now... BCH is the real Bitcoin.... its that simple, only you have no working brain to see the logic... or decency & honesty.
@pohutukawa2346
@pohutukawa2346 5 жыл бұрын
And continues to bullcrap the world with bitcoin.com, but let's not talk about that LOL.
@christopher5692
@christopher5692 5 жыл бұрын
Approaching someone while being videotaped almost reminds me of an episode of cheaters. LOL These dudes being interviewed can't even complete proper sentences. It's like Roger intentionally picked the weakest gazelle out of the herd to snack on.
@ngchernkhangroy59
@ngchernkhangroy59 2 жыл бұрын
The Market will be able to decide which ones in future . 🥂 Cheers
@coinmarketswot3264
@coinmarketswot3264 5 жыл бұрын
Lol, the Asian guy tries to silence his buddy. Exactly like how the core dev team tries to silence the community.
@Nelissguitar
@Nelissguitar 5 жыл бұрын
#xrpthestandard
@EvgeniyFilin
@EvgeniyFilin 5 жыл бұрын
#Turdsandwich I saw it on twitter. It looks fun. I’ll repeat it! Turd sandwich, turd sandwich, turd sandwich! Sounds cool haha🤪
@joey_jaz3966
@joey_jaz3966 4 жыл бұрын
Roger is in control of this channel. He has to this date never hidden likes and dislikes, deleted comments, or done any other - let's call them "edits" - despite some of his older videos being rather unpopular. Meanwhile, the majority of BTC outlets manipulate communication in various ways.
@michaelk1589
@michaelk1589 5 жыл бұрын
I honestly wonder, are these guys just narcissists that subconsciously lied xx times due to the shutdown of frontal lobe due to being exposed to precise information that is in contradiction to their belief system or are they great psychopatic actors playing their evil role consciously or are they just pure morons that are product of social engineering? I have pointed that out since I have had to deal with covert narcissist in the past (I have studied them later and it only looks silly now) and that reminded me of my frustration, lol. I like how you simplify and precise all your thoughts Roger, it's the only way to deal with bullshit from such people.
@topestatemk
@topestatemk 5 жыл бұрын
Nothing better than facing the challenge face on. Good that they were asked very specific topics, the funny thing is they couldnt answer or were diverting the topics to something else. No wonder they are censoring or banning people on forums seeing what they really like in person.This conversation gives good clarity who and how they are moderating their posts. Good job to Roger and the crew for posting these video public.
@madbowler6
@madbowler6 5 ай бұрын
my thoughts on this video are a mixed bag. First, I will give Roger full credit as an excellent debater. When he asks a question, he stays on it like a dog on a bone and does not let people wiggle away from the question, or try to deflect, Dodge, or reframe. He just keeps coming back with the same question until it gets answered. I really respect that persistence and aggressiveness, I think it’s a great way to debate. And he really made the Korean kid look stupid numerous times in this video and the other one with the same guy talking about economics. That all said, Roger still comes across as kind of a douche bag, which I think he is in most peoples opinion. He’s very disingenuous about a few things, most notably, the title of the bitcoin white paper. Roger puts way too much stock in the “a peer to peer electronic cash system“ verbiage when he has to know full well that bitcoins value as an electronic cash system was only a part of its function, not the entirety of it. These bitcoiners should have no problem saying “sure, bitcoin cash might be better/faster than bitcoin for buying a cup of coffee, but who cares? Bitcoin maximalists are not looking to buy coffee or other day-to-day expenses using bitcoin. Why would you ever spend the most valuable property in the known universe to buy something much less valuable, like a cup of coffee? I will use my dollars for that, and hold my bitcoin with diamond hands.“ That shouldn’t be hard to say. Surely Roger knows that Satoshi was more interested in having a censorship resistant, non-confiscatable, non-taxable, non-corruptible, anti-fragile, trustless network... even if the trade-off was speed or cost of transaction. Basically, Roger is trying to make hay out of a point bitcoin maximalists don’t really care about. We don’t really care that there might be something faster or less expensive for day to take transactions out there. As a bitcoin maxi, I can assure you I spend zero time worrying about that. so Roger is right, yeah, bitcoin cash is faster and cheaper, but it’s also far less secure than the bitcoin network, which is why bitcoin cash has lost so much value and is approaching zero when priced against bitcoin.
@lopo8000
@lopo8000 5 жыл бұрын
this conversations with roguer almost turn into fist fights
@friedrichlutz1934
@friedrichlutz1934 5 жыл бұрын
i really wanna see him(roger rabbit) getting slapped. i would pay with my own 10 btc if someone gives me the chamce to watch that on youtube! please
@JonDiablo3
@JonDiablo3 2 ай бұрын
fun fact Roger is wearing a BSV logo
@tobiasruck
@tobiasruck 5 жыл бұрын
#xrpstandard !! I have no idea what that means but it sounds funny and I saw it somewhere on the internet. Also, I'm able to critically evaluate opinions on the internet.
@buyeth2047
@buyeth2047 5 жыл бұрын
Ripple also has terrible inflation and is centralized. Not comparable to BCH in any way.
@Webfajnista
@Webfajnista 5 жыл бұрын
@@buyeth2047 bitmain has 51%. 4 mining pools in China basically control network. This they call "decentralized" BTC. XRP, is the currency, Ripple is the company. XRP has almost 1000 nodes and only 10 of them are owned by Ripple. This is decentralization. #Xrpthestandard
@buyeth2047
@buyeth2047 5 жыл бұрын
Ripple the company controls XRP the currency. They can issue more whenever they want. This is fiat. Bitcoin's supply is ruled by network consensus.
@dracarys3137
@dracarys3137 5 жыл бұрын
The more transaction, the more coins are burned i call that deflation
@buyeth2047
@buyeth2047 5 жыл бұрын
And the USD has deflation for milliseconds at a time in between printing sessions. Ripple WILL issue more XRP in the future. Don't Trust. Verify.
@thomasmcgregor3302
@thomasmcgregor3302 5 жыл бұрын
I support bitcoin cash, but this is childish.
@phamnuwen9442
@phamnuwen9442 5 жыл бұрын
What is?
@friedrichlutz1934
@friedrichlutz1934 5 жыл бұрын
you are childish. your stupid answer . all of this bs you little robot are writing is crap.roger ver is the worst person and the biggerst scammer out there.because of this person this shit never get regulated
@deltap8170
@deltap8170 4 жыл бұрын
Bitcoin Gold has the same structure and less fees currently than bitcoin cash. Whup whup. Just a friendly note
@dennisng3465
@dennisng3465 5 жыл бұрын
Spend your time with people who want to learn, need help with bch, communities. Not these anti Bitcoin people. We would love those videos and help others. Now you're doing is like going into Isis land and trying to talk to them about things they hate. And don't have to mention it.
@tom-yh2zu
@tom-yh2zu 5 жыл бұрын
Even if Roger ver was censored unjustly damage may be done.people don't like to fight .they may scoot bch to the side if a hate vibe.
@WindowWarriors246
@WindowWarriors246 9 ай бұрын
Roger BOOM
@kryptoking6825
@kryptoking6825 5 жыл бұрын
damn Roger quit been so darn argumentative and lawyer like
@Nietzsky
@Nietzsky 5 жыл бұрын
Hey at 4:05 there's the blockstream tshirt guy again who got wrecked once before by Roger. He's on to do some damage repair. Ow yeah "It's the internet, hijacking a sub, censoring it, turning it into an echo chamber is good". He's so smart that he doesn't realise he makes a fool out of himself every time on camera.
@holytrashify
@holytrashify 5 жыл бұрын
bitcoin core=gold, long term hold and storage, bitcoin cash=everyday use?
@RainBitcoins
@RainBitcoins 5 жыл бұрын
Love you for approaching them like that Roger. And xrpstandard... I don't know what that means, duhhhh... Lmao...
@ChooseU4ever
@ChooseU4ever 5 жыл бұрын
I had to google #xrpstandard hahahahha that was funny
@Donaarr
@Donaarr 5 жыл бұрын
I recently did a bitcoin transaction and spent less than 0.000002 BTC on the transaction fee. About $0.01. I sent with RBF and it was confirmed within 10 minutes.
@mistercat141
@mistercat141 5 жыл бұрын
Yo Yo... here we go.... Roger ver is back again..!!!! ready to dish out his foe with his snap. ...... preach up his point like man !! Snap his finger and you go away !!!!! Boom!!!! just like that.... #dropthemic ... damn i wish roger ver could rap...
@5c4v3ng3r
@5c4v3ng3r 5 жыл бұрын
And why is he touching him? Boyfriend?
@enzofer2223
@enzofer2223 5 жыл бұрын
What would be the problem if he was his boyfriend? Are you saying you wouldn't want homosexuals to own bitcoin cash?
@roflsyndrome
@roflsyndrome 5 жыл бұрын
@@enzofer2223 nobody should own btrash.
@5c4v3ng3r
@5c4v3ng3r 5 жыл бұрын
@@enzofer2223 who said it was a problem? Putting words in my mouth? Pathetic.
@enzofer2223
@enzofer2223 5 жыл бұрын
@@5c4v3ng3r - I know from your comments across multiple threads that you are very anti bitcoin. Therefore it seems you are poking fun at them. Again I will ask you, would that be a problem to you if they were what you say?
@5c4v3ng3r
@5c4v3ng3r 5 жыл бұрын
@@enzofer2223 cool, I dont know you from aynwhere, and why would it be a problem? Bcore is a useless shitcoin "hodled" by morons that go around the internet and put words im other peoples mouth. Pathetic
@TimothyBrake
@TimothyBrake 5 жыл бұрын
The first guy is ok but the other guy can’t get his point across and Roger Ver is far better at pushing his point and knows how to do it. Why oh why didn’t they increase the block size and worked on ligthing network in parallel? Seemed to be the logical move from a business perspective. It seems like the developers are a bunch of coders Hbar can’t seem to be an.e to deliver a working product. They look like fools to what Roger is saying. I can feel the pain of Roger for doing so much for bitcoin to only now have corridor debates with these kids (the first one was ok) about the path of bitcoin. The fact that Roger gets censored from the project that he himself made great is terrible. On the other hand Roger should not have done this interview and especially not after the nice guy told it to watch it first. People get stressed in front of the camera.
@rjmiller2553
@rjmiller2553 5 жыл бұрын
Geez Bitcoin cash is what everyone sold to buy more Bitcoin
@YoungScholar9
@YoungScholar9 5 жыл бұрын
XRP THE STANDARD BABY!
@tylerfrohlich339
@tylerfrohlich339 5 жыл бұрын
I have no idea what it means but it's trendy so I'll keep saying it. This is the level of stupidity that would allow the banks to temporarily survive. People need to start using their brains.
@DrRobertStadler
@DrRobertStadler 5 жыл бұрын
The Cult of Core has a reputation hierarchy, and since Roger is outside the cult, he is at the bottom of that hierarchy despite being the CEO of bitcoin.com, the first investor in Bitcoin businesses, and arguably the most influential figure in Bitcoin. That is why they behave as if they are annoyed with the interview. Bravo Roger for confronting these cultists and exposing their extremist ideology for the world to see. Keep up the good work.
@SJ-ds8lp
@SJ-ds8lp Ай бұрын
All interviews I watch of Roger, he is willing to put his money on the line.
@jumpstart21
@jumpstart21 5 жыл бұрын
Can't even answer a simple question from him. WTF
@dr.dee7114
@dr.dee7114 5 жыл бұрын
Roger is a Beast.. 💪💪 Direct questions ASKED And Answers that make no SENSE's are given.. Roger plz always speak ur Mind Regardless of what these people think. Thank u from the community.
@dr.dee7114
@dr.dee7114 5 жыл бұрын
Geo Politiks Plz can u Give me a example Why is Roger a Jack Ass. If anything he is trying to expand the crypto for everyone. Instead of just saying he is a jack Ass, Can you plz tell me Y Do u feel that way, Or are you just following the Banwagon With all the other confused person. Thnx
@pohutukawa2346
@pohutukawa2346 5 жыл бұрын
Ver is a clown. I wish he'd just go on your with his own circus and stop gatecrashing events.
@dr.dee7114
@dr.dee7114 5 жыл бұрын
Dharma Dreams See this is the problem you have no examples of why you would call another man names. But it seems like you have no argument do you know anyone else that is working as hard as Rodger that is trying to spread the crypto to everyone? When he does not need to. Name-calling name-calling name-calling is not a argument. I can do the same but then it would not make a difference between me and you. You're calling him a clown but yet you have no reason to you are just following everybody else with the name calling. Thank you please do your research it will help you in the long run. Remember one thing peer to peer digital cash what is it?? Fast cheap reliable ask yourself that question and be honest.
@teuteu13
@teuteu13 5 жыл бұрын
Why price of Bitcoin cash always following the dowside trend of Bitcoin core if it is better? Why everytime Bitcoin core fall by 2% bitcoin cash fall by 4% (2 times more lost ) @ Roger please explain ?
@tstcikhthys
@tstcikhthys 2 ай бұрын
Roger doesn't care about the price of BCH, and you shouldn't either. It's the utility of a currency, not the price, that matters. BTC and most other cryptocurrencies (BCH included) are mostly getting their price from people who think they're stocks and want to trade them to make fiat money from them.
@daniellurkin
@daniellurkin 5 жыл бұрын
Oh man not that lunatic on the left again.🤪
@charleslee1862
@charleslee1862 3 жыл бұрын
Bitcoin CASH!!
@ChoclateThunda50
@ChoclateThunda50 3 жыл бұрын
Wow. This is gold.
@brianbradford3483
@brianbradford3483 5 жыл бұрын
I have no idea why free speech matters to bitcoin.... Lol wow. Really.... You don't know how that would be a problem? You know dude. That's one Deflecting dude.
@pncampbell
@pncampbell 5 жыл бұрын
I think your argument is circular, you (roger) are claiming that r/bitcoin has a duty to be unbiased WRT bitcoin cash because it gets so many visitors. However its possible that its pro BTC / anti BCH stance is the reason its gets so many visitors in the first place.
@Bulmaimi
@Bulmaimi 5 жыл бұрын
When I saw this video I thought "this Kalvin guy is an asshole" but when I saw Roger's previous interview with Kalvin I realised that Kalvin was only revenging because Roger has been an asshole to him in the past. Roger's method is so abusive, he doesn't really want your opinion, he only wants to show the world that BCH is Bitcoin. That's the only thing he cares about. And he definitely wants to see BTC go down.
@D3Barbaari
@D3Barbaari 5 жыл бұрын
What starts to happen from 21:03 onwards (guy on the left) is a classical case of a lower level puppet of a certain kind of organisation (in this case a sinister one and I don't mean BTC core group as they were originally) to repeat certain phrases or symbols publicly to show their allegiance. The guy on left is higher ranked than the guy on the right and this is why he's guiding the answers of the lower ranked through touching on the arm. Roger as a free individual naturally doesn't understand this kind of coded and controlled behaviour.
@officialbitcoin
@officialbitcoin 5 жыл бұрын
Who were those guys? Were they r/bitcoin mods or something?
@tc7053
@tc7053 5 жыл бұрын
thank you roger
@seano1977
@seano1977 5 жыл бұрын
The question needs to be asked: If BTC is no longer intending to be electronic cash, what are they planning to turn it into?
@UltraRik
@UltraRik 5 жыл бұрын
a settlement layer for banks.. :(
@naturalLin
@naturalLin 5 жыл бұрын
Store of value
@taojones4941
@taojones4941 5 жыл бұрын
1. Ponzi 2. Get rich quick storing value scheme 3. Great fool theory with no actual product.
@pohutukawa2346
@pohutukawa2346 5 жыл бұрын
It is a multi-faceted entity. To meet one of those facets-digital cash-other aspects also need to be true such as effective scaling, censorship resistance, etc. Bcash doesn't even make the starting-line in my view. Just my view.
@taojones4941
@taojones4941 5 жыл бұрын
@@pohutukawa2346 I'm guessing you simply do not use crypto very often Dharma. But BCH actually works as cash. I'm not sure what there is to oppose.
@als8627
@als8627 5 жыл бұрын
As someone who is not tech savvy. I support bitcoin. Even if it is not that fast for transaction. I just see it as a store of value. Yes it can be seen speculative. But any fiat is. That Roger Ver guy just one to show so much how his Bcash is somekind of better thing. But the way he does it is pushing and pushing. And that's why I would never buy that coin. His whole aura is just really wrong. You can feel it through your screen lol. That guy in the middle is far more genuine.
@friedrichlutz1934
@friedrichlutz1934 5 жыл бұрын
those guys are pleasing him not to put it online and he just gives a fuck.please watch the entire clip to see who this perosn really is,or who you throw your money to...
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